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61-79-list-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 359



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Floor Pans
FTE 61-79 - Re: Lincoln Welder
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lisa and Envy
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Lincoln Welder
Re: FTE 61-79 - Clevite vs. Federal Mogul Bearings
FTE 61-79 - Motor Mounts
FTE 61-79 - Blue Dots
FTE 61-79 - Headers 390 FE
FTE 61-79 - Seattle Meeting Pictures
FTE 61-79 - Horn not working, part II
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working, part II
FTE 61-79 - Seattle Meeting - Thanks!!!!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working, part II

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:36:34 EDT
From: SMOKEY5209 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Floor Pans

Got my floor pans from Dennis Carpenter, good fit stout material, quick
shipping. A little more pricey than some, but I believe I got my monies
worth.
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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 09:06:45 -0700
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Lincoln Welder

I've had a Hobart Handler welder for 5 or 6 years which has the gas
bottle and uncoated wire. It's simply fabulous for welding sheet
metal. It makes virtually anyone able to weld. I purchased it
originally to weld extensively on a Mustang restoration and have used it
for all sorts of projects.
By the way, I built a roll around cart for it using an old bed frame
that was chopped and sectioned.

Another friend has a similar Century brand equipped like mine and he
likes his just as well.

Tim Bowman
71 F100
Burien, WA


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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:29:53 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lisa and Envy

In a message dated 10/02/1999 1:22:13 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
theoconnors mindspring.com writes:


I have a question! What does "Envy" mean in "Lisa and Envy". >>

My name is Lisa and I named my truck "Envy" cuz she's dark green
black some people say> and people envy her.....I was thinkin of some other
clever names but "Jolly Green Giant" and "Lil' Sprout" just didn't seem cute
enough LOL

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:34:01 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Lincoln Welder

At 09:06 AM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote:

>By the way, I built a roll around cart for it using an old bed frame
>that was chopped and sectioned.
In the manual that came with it is a list of accessories. Right at
the top of the list is a cart for this machine. I looked at a Northern
Tools catalog and they want about a $100 for one. I about wet myself
laughing. I figure, if you've got a welder now, spend $20 for some good
casters and make a cart!!! : )



Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed



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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:56:07 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Clevite vs. Federal Mogul Bearings

Actually I deferred my choice to the machinist. He told me that there wasn't
a huge difference in bearings and he would have used either but these are
what he typically used in engines he built. What I really think is that this
is what he had available on the shelf. I don't have a problem with either of
the brands, I've used both in the past and never had a failure so it's no
big deal to me.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Brett L Habben
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 6:55 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clevite vs. Federal Mogul Bearings


>Bill,
>I'm trying to determine which bearings to use for my 300 and couldn't
>help but ask if there is some advantage to your combo of Clevite on the
>rods and Federal Mogul on the mains. It take it this is tri-metal
>Clevites and aluminum Federal Moguls?
>What's the scoup, and should I follow suit?
>Thanks



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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:08:18 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Motor Mounts

One of the many "joys" of old trucks is the people that did things to them
before you! Custom amateur wiring! Cracked interior plastic, Etc.!
My 75 Highboy at some time in the past had a 460 swapped in where the
original FE was.
Ok, I can live with this. When I bought it I knew that the Pan was leaking
and the Clutch was shot, It runs good, they should last for a while...
So the Clutch let go sooner then I expected! I have the parts...
While gathering the ID #'s on the Trans so I can rebuild that too I notice
that the Drivers side engine mount is broken...
Go down to Baxter's and pick up engine mounts...
The engine was swapped by a "Chevy Lover"!
In order to put in a new mount you have to PULL THE ENGINE! They scab-welded
the frame towers, which I could fix... but then they welded them to the
frame, so I can't just drop the tower out and install the new mount!
I could build new towers, and correct the fact that they didn't level the
engine from sided to side... But SWMBO has placed a time limit on this
"repair" and after I pull the engine, replace the Clutch, rebuild the Trans,
replace the main seals, and repair the oil pan; there is just no-way that
I'll have time to build new mounts!
So, I know that this has been covered to death, but...
What frame towers do I need to put the 460 in my 75 F250 4x4, after I pull
the engine, Trans, and take the plasma cutter to the abortion that the
"Chevy Lover" scabbed in there!?!?!
At this point a bolt in fix is what I need, be it factory or aftermarket.

TIA
Muel
Member: AFTE
79 Bronco
75 Highboy


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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 15:58:27 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Blue Dots

Does anyone know what size hole I need to drill to put some Blue Dots in
my taillights? A guy at work with a C! #y said he used a 15/16 wood bit.
Any help always greatly appreciated!

Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
' 64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed



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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:21:31 -0700
From: "JOHN B. HELLDORFER"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Headers 390 FE

Jake, I am using `Sorenson` brand/type headers that dump straight down
alongside the block and stop at the Pan Gasket area(4 tubes to one
collector/connector).... Kinda like Old style chevy ....

then I had a Muffler shop hook up things from there. My `Flowmaster` Type
cans are under the drivers door area both sides LARGE TUBE from there to
exit in front of the tires

72 F250 2wd 3/4 ton show Quality thing
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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 19:59:11 -0700
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Meeting Pictures

Thanks Colorado Jeff for getting us together!!!

We had a great time meeting this afternoon in Tukwila. It was fun
exchanging war stories and comparing notes about Ford trucks. If you
would like a few pictures of our little get together, go to:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.users.uswest.net/~tkbowman/trucks.htm

I hope many others can do the same thing.

Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
71 F100


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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:33:37 -0700
From: "Dan & Cheryl Ledford"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working, part II

I must be missing something. When you say the rag joint has to be
grounded (i.e., a wire between the joints) in order for the horn to work;
the rag joint is joined together by two 3/8-inch bolts. Doesn't this
"ground" one half to the other?

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Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:55:07 -0600
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working, part II

I just replaced my joint this weekend. There was a
wire from the top joint to the bottom one. It was a
little more fun then I thought it would. The horn
didn't work when the wire was not connected.

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William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F150 CUSTOM 460
SEMPER FI


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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:15:56 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Meeting - Thanks!!!!!

Just want to say thanks to the group who came out to meet me in Seattle for
lunch....Tim and Angie Bowman (his truck would make you proud, Stock Man),
"Mike in Burien" (cleanest 72? I've ever seen....plus, you can hear and feel
that baby coming down the block!), "Steve and the Rockette" (although too bad
he didn't bring "Rockette"), Josh and wife Chris (cool 72 F-100 4x4.....in
"pre-power steering" configuration....but we'll him get that straightened
out!), and Terry (with the most beautiful 429 I've ever seen....plus, he
helps make those Boeing airplanes fly)....

The best part about working on these old Ford trucks is meeting all the other
True Blue Believers!!!!!!!!

Thanks again gang!!!

Colorado Jeff (CJ)







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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:20:41 -0600
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working, part II

> I must be missing something. When you say the rag joint has to be
> grounded (i.e., a wire between the joints) in order for the horn to work;
> the rag joint is joined together by two 3/8-inch bolts. Doesn't this
> "ground" one half to the other?
.........

The rag joint does not ground the steering column shaft to the gearbox
shaft. A small ground strap provides ground, or the stock horn will not
work.

Danger
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