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61-79-list-digest Sunday, October 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 358



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder
FTE 61-79 - 455 in a F100
FTE 61-79 - Blast from the past
FTE 61-79 - Lisa and Envy
Re: FTE 61-79 - NP205 Troubleshooting Question, Trans brake?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder
FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together - Sunday Afternoon
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder
FTE 61-79 - Gary/Brakes/Spot light
Re: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together - Sunday Afternoon
FTE 61-79 - 351M/400
FTE 61-79 - driveshafts???Help with
FTE 61-79 - Floor pans
FTE 61-79 - headers
FTE 61-79 - Smoking 292 Kinda
Re: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together
RE: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working
Re: FTE 61-79 - Smoking 292 Kinda
FTE 61-79 - Clevite vs. Federal Mogul Bearings
Re: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together
FTE 61-79 - Seattle Meeting with Colorado Jeff
FTE 61-79 - 205/203 info found

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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 08:24:47 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder

Ted, give us some details on the welder. How does it work? Does it have a
reel that feeds the wire and how many amps is it? How thick of metal does
it weld and how much did it cost? Will it work on a standard 20 amp house
circuit?

Tim 66F100 Custom Cab SWB with 352, P/S & O/D
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:06:04 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 455 in a F100

Why not use the 455 for trading bate and secure a bolt in engine for the
F100? That might be easier and quicker than forcing a 455 into an unhappy
F100. That way, the guys on FTE will be willing to talk about any problems
you have!

Tim 66F100 Custom Cab SWB with 352, P/S & O/D
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:11:09 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Blast from the past

Wish,
I tried that (shining my light into a parked car) and it turned out to be
two huge guys drinking beer. They didn't appreciate it and came after me.
Obviously, I got away to tell this story.

Tim 66F100 Custom Cab SWB with 352, P/S & O/D
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:21:33 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lisa and Envy

Hi,
I have a question! What does "Envy" mean in "Lisa and Envy".

Tim 66F100 Custom Cab SWB with 352, P/S & O/D
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:38:27 -0500
From: "Norm"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP205 Troubleshooting Question, Trans brake?

Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - NP205 Troubleshooting Question, Trans brake?
Gary (G.R.) wrote

> This has always been a problem for me. How do you get it reliably into
low
> range with an auto? In park of course the gears can't move to align
> themselves and in neutral the input shaft is spinning and the ouput shaft
is
> stationary so they will grind.

Gary....Norm here......long time no type......LOL
I dunno why you would be having these probs getting it into low
range.......In Dahorse all I do is pop it into neutral (the tranny) and
slide it into low case.......no grinding clashing ect....Now I am betting
mine gets used in 4x4 more than most but hey....it has always been that
easy...... even after consecutive differant transfer cases ect....... maybe
I have just been lucky!

Norm/Tracie dahorse jvlnet.com " Babied & Pampered"
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:48:54 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder

At 08:24 AM 10/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Ted, give us some details on the welder. How does it work? Does it have a
>reel that feeds the wire and how many amps is it? How thick of metal does
>it weld and how much did it cost? Will it work on a standard 20 amp house
>circuit?
>
>Tim 66F100 Custom Cab SWB with 352, P/S & O/D
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I don't want this to sound to much like a plug for Lincoln
Electric. I used their stuff in the fab shop I worked at in Toledo 15 years
ago. It came through every time, so, here it goes.
It works with a flux-cored wire. No shielding gas required. They
send a 1lb spool with it. What got me was, a 2lb spool of .035 wire was
$23. A 10lb spool was $45.
115v/60hz single phase 20 amp circuit, 15 amps Canadian input.
Output is 88 amps 18V with a 20% duty cycle. 62 amps, 20V Canadian. Output
range is 30-88 amps US, 30-62 Can. Open circuit V is 32. Wire speed is
50-300 IPM.
The recommended thickness is 16 gauge to a 1/4". I know from
experience, with some beveling and multipass, you could probably go a
LITTLE thicker. This machine can be adapted to weld with gas to make it
true mig for about $110. It increases your capacity to 5/16". It also lets
you weld stainless and aluminum.
The manual has these questions: Do I want simplicity and
portability? Will welding be performed outdoors or under windy conditions?
Do I require good all position welding capability? Will most welding be
performed on 16 gauge and heavier, somewhat rusty or dirty materials? Weld
must be cleaned prior to painting,
I love the idea of using 115v to run the thing. I haven't done any
welding for about 7 years. I went outside yesterday before work to fart
around with it, it was like riding a bike.
The only thing I don't like is the slag left by the "flux". It
only took a wire brush to get off. It's not like slag from a stick welder.
Otherwise, this thing is the cats behind.
I got the machine, 10 extra tips, 10lb spool of wire, and adapter
spool for the 10lb spool for $426 with shipping from Sears. They have one
that can't be converted for I believe around $200.

Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed




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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:59:44 -0500
From: Jeff Lester
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder

[snip]
> The only thing I don't like is the slag left by the "flux". It
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ted, I had a gas-converted Lincoln, SP-100 I believe, years ago, and
if you can afford it, convert it. It is not a heavy-duty machine, but they
are great for alot of things around the shop, or garage. I used mine
to make many useful things and repair this-and-that.

Have fun.

Jeff Lester and Scooby - La Porte, Texas
78 Ford E350 4x4, 460, C6, NP205, D44/70, 35" BFG MT's
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1978_e350_1.html

> only took a wire brush to get off. It's not like slag from a stick welder.
> Otherwise, this thing is the cats behind.
> I got the machine, 10 extra tips, 10lb spool of wire, and adapter
> spool for the 10lb spool for $426 with shipping from Sears. They have one
> that can't be converted for I believe around $200.
>
> Ted Wnorowski
> Bellevue,OH
> '64 F-250
> 352 transplant
> 4 speed
[snip]

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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:26:36 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together - Sunday Afternoon

OK, I'm relying on Tim to pick a spot somewhere near Burien that is easy to
find....I think we're shooting for around 3:00 on Sunday......

Josh, can you make that?

CJ
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 12:11:40 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln Welder

At 10:48 AM 10/2/99 -0400, you wrote:
I'm sorry. That's the only thing i didn't write. It is a WeldPak 100. I
know it's not heavy duty, but from what I've seen so far it'll handle what
I can throw at it. : )


Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed



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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:08:44 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gary/Brakes/Spot light

>Gary writes: >>.My grand daughter was born Monday night....
Congrats Gary

>My one man method is to wrap the bleeders, use clear plastic tube >submerged in a bottle, half full of fluid, bleeding the hose of all air >first and then gravity bleeding

How do you gravity bleed brakes?


>"game" where you would go out looking for"parked" cars and then turn >the spot light on them and just watch the reactions .. what was it
called?!!?

When we did it to a unmarked police car it was called
"Lets go to juvenile hall "
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:41:37 -0700
From: "Josh Assing"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together - Sunday Afternoon

> OK, I'm relying on Tim to pick a spot somewhere near Burien that is
> easy to find....I think we're shooting for around 3:00 on Sunday......
> Josh, can you make that?
Let me know. I'll try! We've got guests over this weekend; but they
should (hope?) they'll be gone by then... I'm about 50minutes away
from Burien I think (I'm in snoqualmie)

- -josh


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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:44:19 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M/400

>I have a 351M400 under my hood, wouldn't it look the same?

If your engine still has its original valve covers, and noone has
swapped out the crank and pistons, you can tell by reading
the sticker ... it will have "Engine Family 351M 400" and
"Displacement 351" or "Displacement 400". Other than that,
if you can't be sure of just how original your engine is, the
351 and 400 do look the same ... the only way to really
tell without pulling it apart is to examine the stroke of a piston
via a spark plug hole and dowel. 351 = 3.5" stroke
400 = 4.0" stroke


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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 14:56:20 -0400
From: joe delaurentis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - driveshafts???Help with

Group,
anybody know of a year driveshaft I can use on my 68 4x4 with a c/6 &
np205
I would like to get rid of the 2 piece rear driveshaft and go with a one
piece...
It needs to be 66"'s long from yoke to yoke...Any ideas???Or should I
stick
to the 2 piece unit???Advantages???
Joe

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:42:44 -0400
From: "R. B. Morris, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Floor pans

>on 28 Sep 1999 Forest New wrote:
>Does anyone have a source for floor pans for a 71 F-100 pickup cab. >I
can't seem to find these anywhere. I would like to replace the rust >with
original look pans rather than welding in sheet metal.

Forest, I just got through putting new floorpans in my 70. I got them from
JC Whitney. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality and they fit with a
minimal amount of trimming (depends upon how much metal you want to replace)
I thought that the cost was reasonable...about $30 each if I remember
correctly.

Hope this helps

Rogers B. Morris, Jr.
Visteon-Multimedia New Products Applications
Email: BMORRIS Visteon.com, rbmii msn.com



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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:06:49 -0500
From: "jake benson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers

hello i am installing headers on a new motor .

the headers were bought used so i don't know the brand
i have them installed and the drivers side is exiting right at the
transmission linkage, any suggestions besides different headers.
the truck is a 1969 2wd 3/4 ton 390and c6
any help is appreciated

thanks
jake benson
south dakota

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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:48:32 -0400
From: Jesus Cardsoo
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Smoking 292 Kinda

Howdy!

Well it has been a while since I emailed the list. I recently moved from
Texas (finished school finally!) to the great state of Michigan to work for
Ford as a Product Design Engineer in the electrical side of the business.
It is great to get paid for your hobby! I have a small problem with the
292 my 63 F100. When I start it up in the mornings it is leaving black
smoked spots in the pavement. I think it is running to rich, right? I
have tried adjusting the carb (2 barrel) manually with just a plain old
screw driver, but I have had no luck. How can I calibrate the carb
correctly so that I can get rid of this small problem? Thanks in advance
for all of your input and it is great to be back!

Chuy
Detroit, MI
63 F100 Flareside
2000 Ranger 4x4 (soon to be acquired!)
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together

At 10:01 PM 1:10:99 -0700, Tim Bowman wrote:

>CJ:

Are we talking tomorrow, or next sunday, I've been
working way to many hours lately....


Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:45:49 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working

Yes, the horn circuit works by grounding one end of the horn relay. The
horn should work if you ground the spring pin to the steering shaft. BUT if
the steering shaft is not grounded (remember the rag joint we sometimes talk
about here?) it won't work. Try grounding the spring pin to some point on
the frame/dash etc. I bet it works then. There should be a wire that
connects the upper steering shaft to the lower shaft at the rag joint. If
the wire is gone or broken then the upper shaft is not gronded and the horn
won't work.

Tom H.

> ----------
> From: Dan & Cheryl Ledford[SMTP:ledford AZstarnet.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:24 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Horn not working
>
> I wrote a while back about getting a wiring diagram because my horn
> doesn't
> work. Here's the story:
> The horn itself works 'cause I can hot wire it to the battry and in
> operates. replaced the horn relay (field relay in the maintenance books).
> The horn wire (yellow) goes from the horn to the relay. A yellow wire
> (I
> assume a continuation) goes from the horn relay to the starter relay,
> battery terminal. A blue/yellow wire also goes from the horn relay to the
> steering column harness. All steering elements seem to be in place
> (rings,
> spring pins, etc.)
> The horn should work if I "jump" the horn spring pin to the steering
> column center shaft ( or to any other ground point). Right? Any ideas?
>
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:52:30 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Smoking 292 Kinda

My 390 has been doing this same thing scince I've owned it and I blame
it on condensation carrying carbon flakes out the pipes. It seems to do
it no matter how the carb is tuned.
Jason



Jesus Cardsoo wrote:
I have a small problem with the
> 292 my 63 F100. When I start it up in the mornings it is leaving black
> smoked spots in the pavement.
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:52:38 -0500
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clevite vs. Federal Mogul Bearings

Bill,
I'm trying to determine which bearings to use for my 300 and couldn't
help but ask if there is some advantage to your combo of Clevite on the
rods and Federal Mogul on the mains. It take it this is tri-metal
Clevites and aluminum Federal Moguls?
What's the scoup, and should I follow suit?
Thanks
>Got the cleaned & painted 335 block & lower end back from the machine
shop
>today. 9:1 flat top cast Ohio pistons mounted on orig. rods (resized top
&
>bottom), new flexplate (there's that term again!) & harmonic bal. all
>balanced with the 400 crank I got on eBay for $65 (it got a clean bill
of
>health from the machinist). I had him clean & re-polish it after I
ground
>the lead in grooves on the mains. Cylinders bored & honed to .020, new
>Clevite 77 cam & rod bearings, Fed. Mogul mains, assy. lube and
.001-.003
>plastigauge. Gonna get the engine on the stand tonight and get it washed
>good tomorrow. Any input on reassembling the lower end is welcome. I've
done
>it several times before but it's been quite awhile. I do have the
factory
>shop manual as well as the Tom Monroe book. Wish me luck!
>Bill Beyer"


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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:03:47 -0700
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Get Together

Tim is talking about tomorrow, he will e-mail the details.
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:20:29 -0700
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Seattle Meeting with Colorado Jeff

Anyone in the Seattle metro area is invited to join Colorado Jeff at
Vic's Broiler at 3:00pm on Sunday, October 3, 1999. I've spoken with
Jeff and he confirmed that if you bring your Ford pickup, he'll buy your
meal! He'll bring pictures of his trucks.

Vic's Broiler is located at 15901 West Valley Highway, Tukwila. From
I-5 take 405 to EXIT 1, head south (right at the end of the off ramp)
about 1/4 mile and the restaurant is on the right hand side of the
road. Coming south on 405, take exit 1 (West Valley Highway, and head
south following the above directions.

If you need more specifics, please email me directly (offilist since I'm
in digest mode) at tkbowman uswest.net.

Looking forward to meeting all who can attend.

Tim Bowman
71 F100




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