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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, September 29 1999 Volume 03 : Number 350



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Full time transfer case ?
FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hard hot start
FTE 61-79 - 300 I6
RE: FTE 61-79 - Hard hot start
RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
Re: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope
FTE 61-79 - 71 Floor pans
Re: FTE 61-79 - 3.8 head gasket blower
RE: FTE 61-79 - 3.8 head gasket blower
Re: FTE 61-79 - 3.8 head gasket blower
Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 Floor pans
FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
FTE 61-79 - Re: 3.8 head gasket blower
Re: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: 3.8 head gasket blower
RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
RE: FTE 61-79 - C6 tail shaft measurement
RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 Floor pans
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M vs. 351C
RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
RE: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope
FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - C6 tail shaft measurement
Re: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope
RE: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hard hot start
FTE 61-79 - Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - new guy
RE: FTE 61-79 - new guy
FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage
RE: FTE 61-79 - new guy
Re: FTE 61-79 - Car Movies
Re: FTE 61-79 - new guy
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
FTE 61-79 - Bed Bolts
RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bed Bolts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...
FTE 61-79 - '63 Master Cylinder
Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage
FTE 61-79 - Fe Pulleys
FTE 61-79 - 1978 Ford F150 Supercab 4x4 parting out sale:
FTE 61-79 - Torque/HP Description
FTE 61-79 - 330/361/391 Truck Heads
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope
Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage
RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage
FTE 61-79 - Re: Truck age
Re: FTE 61-79 - '63 Master Cylinder
Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage
FTE 61-79 - C6 cooler lines
FTE 61-79 - Way to go Ken!!!!
FTE 61-79 - ford parts for sale

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:05:53 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Full time transfer case ?

> Full time was the NP208 I've only seen this TC with the C-6

You mean the NP203 right ? The NP208 is a part time 4x4
transfer case introduced in 1980. I have a NP208 mated to
a NP435 4 spd manual in my 83 F-150


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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:31:59 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope

Wish,

I take it the car-o-scope is designed to tell you that you need to buy a new
car and get rid of whatever you have. My scope was almost identical to
yours. They suggested that I dump Henry and buy an Infinity. Yuck, ptooie!
It leaves a bad feel on my fingertips just typing it. Evidently Carnack
doesn't know what a status symbol an old Ford truck really is.

"You'll have to pry the keys from my cold, dead fingers!!!!"

- -- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:57:39 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hard hot start

are we talking about a heat sink.. if not what is a heat soak and who sells
them?

Larry


At 09:20 PM 9/27/99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 09/27/1999 4:12:19 PM !!!First Boot!!!, wish iastate.edu
>writes:
>
>
> timing, if there is too much advance it will start harder when its warm ...
> >>
>
>I'll have to try that cuz Envy's got that problem, after a few mins of
>driving she's hard to re-start, QUESTION: Do you know BTDC on a 400 engine?
> He says he can set it by ear purty close. Thanks y'all!
>
>*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
>*~*~Silly Boys..trucks are for girls!! ~*~*
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:07:31 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 I6

Don writes: >>When did Ford introduce the 300 as a replacement for the 240
engine? Just
> > curious.

I can show you a '64 F250 with the 300 in it (Factory), and I believe it was the
1st year. Maybe even a late (mid year) introduction. It did not however
replace the 240, as it too, was offered for several more years along with the
300.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:09:07 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Hard hot start

> are we talking about a heat sink.. if not what is a heat soak
> and who sells
> them?
>

Usually you can go pick them up at Acme Auto ... just kidding of course ...

heat soak is what happens when a starter (or other object) is left next to a
very hot object, such as a header, for an extended period of time ... the
heat "soaks" into the elec. device and causes it to perform poorly ...

A heat sink would help reduce the heat soak ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:13:32 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

> > You set the timing with the advance disconnected right (the vacuum
> > line in front discnnected and plugged) ???
> Um, yes; I wasn't supposed to do that?
>

Yup, just checking though, if you'd set it back to 6 with the advance
connected some funky stuff could've happened ...


> > When do you get it ? Accelerating ? Decelerating ? On warmup only ?
> Yes.
> ;-) It happens at idle; that's when I notice it...
>
> > Check the choke settings too, if you're too lean sometimes you'll get
> > a backfire through the carb ... same's true if you have a bad
> > powervalve usually when warm then.
> It's still an auto-choke. The choke was fully off when I did the
> timing. The pop happens when cold or warm..
>

hmmm... I'd double check that all theplugs are tight, and then check to be
sure there were no exhaust leaks that might be popping ... like a burned out
doughnut at the end of the manifold, or a leaky header gasket ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:19:11 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope

I just got my car-o-scope back. I disagree, I aint tradin Tweety in! They
suggested 5 other suitable alternatives. AMC Jeep, not bad, but not a Ford.
Old Cutlass, Im not 80! Plymouth Duster, this I could live with, but it has
to have a 383, 4 speed pistol grip, and NOS. Hyundai Accent, do I have to
say anything? Volkswagon Beetle, I went the VW route once, Im never goin back
to 3 week intervals between small electrical problems. One thing was quite
interesting, Im putting it here for you.

"You certainly are a bit of a nut case, aren't you, when it comes to taking
chances (well, at least compared to other Ford F250 owners). Calm down. CALM
DOWN! It's not the end of the world, for heaven's sake. And nobody is asking
you to change anything about who you are. We'd never do that. Go ahead. Jump
off a cliff if that's what makes you happy. But, if this is really what you
are, you're gonna have to change vehicles"

They got me pegged, but how am I supposed to jump cliffs in a hyundai?

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety" MINE, and mine to stay, till Im dead, cremated, and safe
in her ashtray.
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:10:46 -0500
From: Forest New
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 Floor pans

Does anyone have a source for floor pans for a 71 F-100 pickup cab. I
can't seem to find these anywhere. I would like to replace the rust with
original look pans rather than welding in sheet metal. Anyone that can help
me out, I would be appreciative. Also if anyone is interested in a
polyeurethane frame rail fuel tank that fills from the back fenderwell that
was an aftermarket add-on email me. I have the whole thing on the truck
with the proper 3 way valve.

Forest New
71 F-100 Sport Custom
72 F-100 XLT
67 mustang coupe
69 Mach-1 mustang
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:24:44 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 3.8 head gasket blower

Thanks for your message at 01:13 PM 9/27/99 -0500, Larry Schmiedekamp. Your
message was:
>Hey Jason
>
>Can you tell me more. Is it a defect. I'm planning on over hauling one that
>my son has.

Just don't overheat it. Climbing an I-90 hill outside of Vantage, WA, I
blew the head gasket on my '83, had the top end re-done (shaved head,
ground valves, etc.) and it has been running great the last 4 years
(considering that my daughter has been maintaining and driving it). It is
no powerhouse, but it has been dependable since the head gasket incident...




Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:29:36 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 3.8 head gasket blower

Thanks for your message at 12:56 PM 9/27/99 -0700, Hogan, Tom. Your message
was:
>Yeah, do tell I own two of them now. How soon do they usually go? Anything
>to do to prevent it?
>
For one thing, remember to turn off the AC when climbing those steep
hills... (I didn't).
The suggestion to install a temp gauge is a good one...(I didn't).


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:35:14 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 3.8 head gasket blower

Thanks for your message at 03:51 PM 9/27/99 -0500, John LaGrone. Your
message was:
>This wouldn't be two different versions of a similar engine would it? The
>front drive model may have aluminum heads where the rear drive doesn't. Just
>wondering. The boys down in Ysplanti did this number on their 3.8 V6, too.
>There were at least three Buick 3.8s. One was totally different from the
>other two. FoMoCo may have pulled a similar stunt. Inquiring minds want to
>know.......
You are right. The front wheel drive 3.8 is different from the rear
wheel drive 3.8. (At least this is what a Ford mechanic friend told me
when I specifically asked about the interchagability (word?).


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:42:38 EDT
From: Mikerenf aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 Floor pans

racer23
if you find one let me know. As I need to replace mine as well. I have a 66
f-100/w 352 4-speed.

any help would be appreciated.

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:42:00 -0500
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

Does anyone know off hand what a "B" rear end code on a '80 9" stands for ? I'm
using a Lincoln Versailles 9" rear end on my rebuild and was told if the code
was a letter it was "posi." What's the correct Ford vernacular for
"posi-traction?" (traction-loc?) Sorry, I'm new to the gear-head lingo.

Brian Nyman
bnyman allina.com

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:50:29 -0700
From: "Josh Assing"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

> > When do you get it ? Accelerating ? Decelerating ? On warmup only ?
> ;-) It happens at idle; that's when I notice it...

hmmm... I'd double check that all theplugs are tight, and then check to be
sure there were no exhaust leaks that might be popping ... like a burned out
doughnut at the end of the manifold, or a leaky header gasket ...

Well; it happened before I replaced the plugs; and I know I got
them all in good. I checked the donughts and did a quick check
around the headers for exhaust leaks; didn't find anything.
Possible it might be a bad/cracked valve? It doesn't burn any oil;
and exhaust looks good....

Thanks
- -josh

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:13:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 3.8 head gasket blower

I'm just pulling chains for a reponse. I had a '90
Probe with a 3.0L that ran great and never even
misfired in over 100K miles. My son's Bronco II with
the 2.9L is a '89. It is high mileage now and having
oil pressure problems. I'm thinking of subscribing to
another list to find out what is a good swap into a
BII.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

>Wow, guess I'm SOL then huh ? (see signature) ...
>want scarey ? The4.6
>and the rest of the "triton" motors don't have direct
>cubic inch
>displacements (like 302 and 351 that were designed in
>inches), they are
>metric design, so to figure displacement in inches
>you gotta go backand
>change the borexstroke measurements then do the
>calculations ...4.6=281 by
>the way ...

>> I > love Fords as much as anyone, but my rule is
>to avoid
> > any motors that are identified in a foreign
>language > (liters). >

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:18:49 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope

Well, I don't know what your guy's problems are, but it's says I'm a CHEAP FLAKE
and am a PERFECT match for my truck!!! 8-)

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8-)

Tony
tony pscico.com
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John LaGrone wrote:

> Wish,
>
> I take it the car-o-scope is designed to tell you that you need to buy a new
> car and get rid of whatever you have. My scope was almost identical to
> yours. They suggested that I dump Henry and buy an Infinity. Yuck, ptooie!
> It leaves a bad feel on my fingertips just typing it. Evidently Carnack
> doesn't know what a status symbol an old Ford truck really is.
>
> "You'll have to pry the keys from my cold, dead fingers!!!!"
>
> -- John
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com
> 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:30:42 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: 3.8 head gasket blower

> My son's Bronco II with
> the 2.9L is a '89. It is high mileage now and having
> oil pressure problems.

One guy I work with had problems with his too, turned out he hadn't changed
the oil all winter ... and living as close to work as he does it was
getting gas in the oil ... an oil change and it was all fixed ...

On the other hand my sister had these problems and her motor fried in less
than a month ... clogged pickup tube was what they said was the
culprit...(5.0 F250) ... so I think what I'd do would be to change the oil
first and keep an eye on it, still having problems, drop the pan and see
what gunk is built up there ... then at least a new pickup and clean out the
pan, maybe a new oil pump just for insurance ...

Of course swapping in a 302 is always a fun father/son project ... or so I
hear ...

>I'm thinking of subscribing to
> another list to find out what is a good swap into a
> BII.
>

Might not be a bad idea, I know most of us don't play with FI too much :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:32:10 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

> Well; it happened before I replaced the plugs; and I know I got
> them all in good. I checked the donughts and did a quick check
> around the headers for exhaust leaks; didn't find anything.
> Possible it might be a bad/cracked valve? It doesn't burn any oil;
> and exhaust looks good....
>

Dunno, you're out of my league now ... jsut make sure everything's tight
(motor mounts, accessory drives and mounts, etc) ... and the fan blades too,
'cause you really don't want one of those comin off ...

otherwise just turn the radio up ;) just kidding of course, but I am out of
suggestions, hopefully someone's been reading along and will have some new
ideas ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:42:19 -0700
From: Don79XLT
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C6 tail shaft measurement

From my experience with converting a 78 F250 4x4 from np435 to C6 there
are 2 different lengths on the C6 for 4 wheel drive.
There is a C6 for the shortbox that is shorter and then one for the longbox
which is longer..
can't remember the exact difference in length but think it is 1/2" to 1"
plus ...

>There are two tail shafts, one for 2wd and one for 4wd. If you have 4wd you
>need the short one but there is no shorter choice. The c-6 is simply a
>longer tranny in 4x4 than either the T18 or NP435 so a drive shaft is almost
>certainly going to be a requirement, actually two drive shafts since the
>xfer case will be further back.
>
>Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary

Don
'79 Bronco Ranger XLT, 400,4.11's open diff,LT235x16",np205,and C6
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:37:15 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

Josh,

I had a similar situation. My exhaust manifold had a pin hole in it. The only
way I found it was to run the truck at night with no moon (pitch black) and
watched the manifold when it backfired. It shot out a little blue flame through
the hole. All my gaskets looked fine and so did the manifold. I put on a set
of headers and my problem was fixed. At least the backfire any ways. I'd look
hard at the exhaust manifolds.

- -Ted



Well; it happened before I replaced the plugs; and I know I got
them all in good. I checked the donughts and did a quick check
around the headers for exhaust leaks; didn't find anything.
Possible it might be a bad/cracked valve? It doesn't burn any oil;
and exhaust looks good....

Thanks
- -josh

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Daniel DiMartino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 Floor pans

forest:

I had a catalog from John's F-FUN 100 and if i remember they had
floor pans in it, and i know for sure good old J.C. Whitney has
'em in thier catalog, just not sure about the years, a bit hit
or miss. check out some web sites and request catalogs, Mac's
for instance is free and huge, just call or e-mail them.


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Daniel DiMartino

1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:46:02 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M vs. 351C

Water pump...yes, distributor...yes, starter...no (351W style), etc....?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: PitStop Performance
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:32 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M vs. 351C


>Which external parts (such as starter, waterpump, dist., etc) will swap
>between a 351C and 351M?
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:53:53 -0700
From: "Josh Assing"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

> I had a similar situation. My exhaust manifold had a pin hole in it.
> The only way I found it was to run the truck at night with no moon
> (pitch black) and watched the manifold when it backfired. It shot out
> a little blue flame through the hole. All my gaskets looked fine and
> so did the manifold. I put on a set of headers and my problem was
> fixed. At least the backfire any ways. I'd look hard at the exhaust
> manifolds.

This seems to be the prevailing thing over something much worse
(cracked valve or something) I'll try to look at the next no-moon
night; as long as it's above 30 degrees!

- -josh
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:54:26 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope

After insulting me for a while (called me cheap) Carnack heaped the ultimate
insult on me.... said I needed to get a Peugot505. 'Scuse me while I go
barf all over carnack. ;0)

Tom H,.

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> From: John LaGrone[SMTP:jlagrone ford-trucks.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 8:31 AM
> To: -FordTruckDigest
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - car-o-scope
>
> Wish,
>
> I take it the car-o-scope is designed to tell you that you need to buy a
> new
> car and get rid of whatever you have. My scope was almost identical to
> yours. They suggested that I dump Henry and buy an Infinity. Yuck, ptooie!
> It leaves a bad feel on my fingertips just typing it. Evidently Carnack
> doesn't know what a status symbol an old Ford truck really is.
>
> "You'll have to pry the keys from my cold, dead fingers!!!!"
>
> -- John
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com
> 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:01:34 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope

A little excerpt from my profile (apologies in advance for the cussing):

Comparing You to Other Ford Pickup Owners

Boy oh boy, Bill, you picked a vehicle which is just about perfect for you.
Congratulations!


Car-O-Scope Makes Suggestions for More Compatible Vehicles

Despite the fact that your personality profile pretty much matches that of
Ford Pickup owners, Car-O-Scope would like to suggest some alternative
vehicles--should you be thinking of making a change.

Note: some of these suggestions might surprise you. But try to keep an open
mind. It's quite possible that the car-o-scope has discovered some hidden
and/or repressed aspects of your personality.

1. Buick Roadmaster
2. Oldsmobile Cutlass
3. Dodge Ram 1500
4. Peugeot 505
5. Buick Estate Wagon


A Peugeot 505? C'mon you've gotta be kidding! Who on earth would drive a
Peugeot besides some elbow-patches-on-the-sport-coat, Birkenstock wearin',
enviro-weenie?

At least there was another pickup on the list even if it was a Dodge, which
BTW I think is the perfect name to put on the front of a truck...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"



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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:08:11 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

Just stick with locker and/or limited slip differential (LSD) and you'll be
fine. Stay away from "posi"

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian C Nyman
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:44 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question


>Does anyone know off hand what a "B" rear end code on a '80 9" stands for ?
I'm
>using a Lincoln Versailles 9" rear end on my rebuild and was told if the
code
>was a letter it was "posi." What's the correct Ford vernacular for
>"posi-traction?" (traction-loc?) Sorry, I'm new to the gear-head lingo.
>



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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:05:45 -0500
From: "Norm"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C6 tail shaft measurement

From: Don79XLT
> From my experience with converting a 78 F250 4x4 from np435 to C6 there
> are 2 different lengths on the C6 for 4 wheel drive.
> There is a C6 for the shortbox that is shorter and then one for the
longbox
> which is longer..

Well in my experiance....There are actually three 4x4 Shafts with
corresponding adapters for the C-6 /NP250 combo! The use of the differant
length adapters has little "ryme or reason" in my opinion. I have a 78
Bronco with the "long" adapter/shaft combo.....And my 79 F-250 has the
medium adapter shaft combo! And I have seen more than one Bronco with the
"medium" adapter and shaft as well.......as well as plenty of F-150 stuff
that was mixed matched with no reason! As for the "short" adapter.......They
are around...I have seen them! And the next one I see I will grab....and
then post some pics on the web so all can see the shaft differances and
adapter lengths...because I am sure this question will be asked again!

As far as possible shafts for the C-6.....I think that the book showed 4
differant tail shaft lengths for the 2x4 C-6!

Norm/Tracie dahorse jvlnet.com " Babied & Pampered"
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:10:06 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope

Seems to me this scope is run by car nuts. Do they ever suggest a truck.
Looks like only cars.

zlcs






At 09:01 AM 9/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>A little excerpt from my profile (apologies in advance for the cussing):
>
>Comparing You to Other Ford Pickup Owners
>
>Boy oh boy, Bill, you picked a vehicle which is just about perfect for you.
>Congratulations!
>
>
>Car-O-Scope Makes Suggestions for More Compatible Vehicles
>
>Despite the fact that your personality profile pretty much matches that of
>Ford Pickup owners, Car-O-Scope would like to suggest some alternative
>vehicles--should you be thinking of making a change.
>
>Note: some of these suggestions might surprise you. But try to keep an open
>mind. It's quite possible that the car-o-scope has discovered some hidden
>and/or repressed aspects of your personality.
>
>1. Buick Roadmaster
>2. Oldsmobile Cutlass
>3. Dodge Ram 1500
>4. Peugeot 505
>5. Buick Estate Wagon
>
>
>A Peugeot 505? C'mon you've gotta be kidding! Who on earth would drive a
>Peugeot besides some elbow-patches-on-the-sport-coat, Birkenstock wearin',
>enviro-weenie?
>
>At least there was another pickup on the list even if it was a Dodge, which
>BTW I think is the perfect name to put on the front of a truck...
>
>"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:16:00 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope

> 1. Buick Roadmaster
> 2. Oldsmobile Cutlass
> 3. Dodge Ram 1500
> 4. Peugeot 505
> 5. Buick Estate Wagon
>
>

That's the most American built cars I've ever seen on a list from them! the
Peugeot 505 (that's Pugh-gut :) is probably just thrown in for flavoring ;)


> At least there was another pickup on the list even if it was a
> Dodge, which
> BTW I think is the perfect name to put on the front of a truck...
>

I always wondered if the Ram had an identity crisis ... I mean on the back
of some of them they say in big plain letters Dodge Ram ...well
which is it ? I came up behind one once and was so confused I had to turn
...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:07:21 -0500
From: Craig Cantrell
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hard hot start

Actually, a heat "shield" would help prevent a heat soak for this application.

"William S. Hart" wrote:

> > are we talking about a heat sink.. if not what is a heat soak
> > and who sells
> > them?
> >
>
> Usually you can go pick them up at Acme Auto ... just kidding of course ...
>
> heat soak is what happens when a starter (or other object) is left next to a
> very hot object, such as a header, for an extended period of time ... the
> heat "soaks" into the elec. device and causes it to perform poorly ...
>
> A heat sink would help reduce the heat soak ...
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
> 96 Mustang GT 4.6L
> 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:30:23 -0500
From: Craig Cantrell
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust

Hi, new to the list. Just wondering what the process is for all the
exhaust manifolds that crack on the I-6 240. Repair or replace. Anyone
know where to get one? Thanks

- --
Craig
- --
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"Naw Jaw"--Pacific Green/Saddle/Saddle
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:25:22 PDT
From: "J B"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new guy

hello folks

have been watching the list for a few weeks now and it appears i will be
able to get a lot of useful information from it

i am currently driving a 79 F150 4X4 - it has a 460 from a 73 Lincoln - full
time 4WD - automatic (not sure which auto)

it is a nice looking rig with a decent paint job, visor, and cap - will be
used for hauling and plowing

the biggest question i have right now is about the gas mileage - from
watching the list i would guess that 10-12 mpg would be acceptable for the
460 - i am getting around 10.5 when i keep my foot off the floor - engine
does have an edelbrock 1411 carb with very little epa stuff hanging on it
and pretty much straight through exhausts (no headers)- i am still fine
tuning the carb - it is difficult since my cheapie analyser with tach quit
working right after i got the hang of turning all them little screws - so
now the adjustments are by-gosh and by-golly

oh yeah - have 31.5 X 10.5 tires - smaller ones would probably help the
mileage but these look so nice

take care all

JB

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:17:47 -0500
From: Dave Jacobs
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - new guy

Have a similar setup but a '78 F150 4x4. Hard to keep the 460 under 75mph on
the metro freeways! Still get 10-11 mpg even at that speed. You have a C6
auto tranny mated to an NP203 full-time transfer case. I took the full-time
hubs out of the wheels, and put in locking hubs to help in the mpg arena.
However, also took out NP203 and replaced with part time transfer case the
NP205. Simple, but heavy for one person, exchange. The frame is drilled to
move a T/C fore and aft to accept the skinnier NP205. The outside axle stubs
may not be long enough to accept a locking hub. Either find a set off of
another 4x4 that has locking hubs, or as I did, I cut down the inner
spline/sleeve in locking hub to match the thickness of the full-time 'gear'
that you took out. It's about one inch thick. Then the snap ring will work.

-----Original Message-----
From: J B [mailto:jbmx1 hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:25 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new guy

hello folks

have been watching the list for a few weeks now and it
appears i will be
able to get a lot of useful information from it

i am currently driving a 79 F150 4X4 - it has a 460 from a
73 Lincoln - full
time 4WD - automatic (not sure which auto)

it is a nice looking rig with a decent paint job, visor, and
cap - will be
used for hauling and plowing

the biggest question i have right now is about the gas
mileage - from
watching the list i would guess that 10-12 mpg would be
acceptable for the
460 - i am getting around 10.5 when i keep my foot off the
floor - engine
does have an edelbrock 1411 carb with very little epa stuff
hanging on it
and pretty much straight through exhausts (no headers)- i am
still fine
tuning the carb - it is difficult since my cheapie analyser
with tach quit
working right after i got the hang of turning all them
little screws - so
now the adjustments are by-gosh and by-golly

oh yeah - have 31.5 X 10.5 tires - smaller ones would
probably help the
mileage but these look so nice

take care all

JB

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:26:36 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage

Hi I own a 74 f250 4X4 highboy with a 360. Just wondering what other
guys are getting for mileage. That last time i went on a big trip with
the truck i got 10 mpg i think i should be getting more. One factor i
have not taking into effect is that im running 35" with 410 gears. Is
there a program on the net that with calculate the actual speed that i
am traveling based on my new tire size?.

thanks
Kirk Baillie
F250 4x4 highboy
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:48:18 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - new guy

> You have a C6
> auto tranny mated to an NP203 full-time transfer case. I took
> the full-time
> hubs out of the wheels, and put in locking hubs to help in the mpg arena.
> However, also took out NP203 and replaced with part time
> transfer case the
> NP205.


Actually there are kits available for both of these conversions ... I have a
pair of the hubs on my truck, and a kit in the 203 to make it a part time
... its a bit easier than having to worry about driveline lengths and all
that stuff ...

Just so you know there are other options ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:58:35 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Car Movies

In a message dated 09/28/1999 1:46:21 AM !!!First Boot!!!, JUMPINFORD aol.com
writes:

>

If I didn't have my Envy, I'd have an Eleanor sittin in mah driveway LOL

~Lisa~
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:03:11 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - new guy

In a message dated 09/28/1999 6:17:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jbmx1 hotmail.com
writes:


watching the list i would guess that 10-12 mpg would be acceptable for the
460 - i am getting around 10.5 when i keep my foot off the floor >>


I reckon that's about what I'm gettin in my '77 F-150 4x4.....It seems like I
go to the gas station twice a week LOL The guys there know me though, they're
like "Oh no, here comes that little cowgirl again" lol

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys....trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:35:05 -0600
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

> Just stick with locker and/or limited slip differential (LSD) and you'll
be
> fine. Stay away from "posi"
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
.............

> >Does anyone know off hand what a "B" rear end code on a '80 9" stands for
?
> I'm
> >using a Lincoln Versailles 9" rear end on my rebuild and was told if the
> code
> >was a letter it was "posi." What's the correct Ford vernacular for
> >"posi-traction?" (traction-loc?) Sorry, I'm new to the gear-head lingo.
...........

Um.... What's wrong with posi? It won't fit in a Lincoln Versailles 9"?

I've got a PowerLoc Posi in my 69 F250 and I'm very happy with it. As a
matter of fact I'd love to get my hands on another one for my other 69 F250
instead of the TractionLoc unit I might install soon.
As far as I know, if the rear axle code found on the drivers door jamb
begins with a letter and not a number, then it is not a regular rear axle.


Danger
danger csolutions.net



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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:44:52 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

Posi is GM speak for a LSD...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Danger
To: FTE List
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question



> Um.... What's wrong with posi? It won't fit in a Lincoln Versailles 9"?
>
> I've got a PowerLoc Posi in my 69 F250 and I'm very happy with it. As a
>matter of fact I'd love to get my hands on another one for my other 69 F250
>instead of the TractionLoc unit I might install soon.
> As far as I know, if the rear axle code found on the drivers door jamb
>begins with a letter and not a number, then it is not a regular rear axle.



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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:48:52 -0400
From: j arnold
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bed Bolts

Finally got around to pulling the bed off our '79 f-250 fleetside and
repairing it. Now ready to replace bed. Had to cut old bolts off with torch
and just left them lying in field. Anybody know right off-hand what size
bolts I need? Looks like about a 7/16 coarse thread carriage bolt 5 or 5
1/2 inches long. Would like to confirm before I start my usual 5 or 6 trips
to hardware store to find right size.
Thanks.

stoney

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:54:49 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

> Um.... What's wrong with posi?

its a Ch*vy term ...

> It won't fit in a Lincoln
> Versailles 9"?
>

It might, ;) but a Trac-Loc should fit ... its a slightly different design
principle, but in the end they all do the same (or similar) things ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:08:19 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

> Posi is GM speak for a LSD...
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>

Ya know Bill, taken out of context that might not be the best phrasing ...

;)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:14:52 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bed Bolts

Hey Stoney-

They are 1/2 inch bolts, I suggest you get grade-5 at least, and I know 6
of them can be the same length, but the two center ones near the headboard
are shorter-- 4 1/2 comes to mind-- (reason being the bolts are only
threaded the last inch of shank) 8-)

Not much help I know, but it's a start.. 8-)

Tony
tony pscico.com
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At 04:48 PM 9/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Finally got around to pulling the bed off our '79 f-250 fleetside and
>repairing it. Now ready to replace bed. Had to cut old bolts off with torch
>and just left them lying in field. Anybody know right off-hand what size
>bolts I need? Looks like about a 7/16 coarse thread carriage bolt 5 or 5
>1/2 inches long. Would like to confirm before I start my usual 5 or 6 trips
>to hardware store to find right size.
>Thanks.
>
>stoney
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:25:16 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

Maybe that's why they called it Posi...heh, heh!


- -----Original Message-----
From: William S. Hart
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question


> > Posi is GM speak for a LSD...
> >
> > "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
> >
>
>Ya know Bill, taken out of context that might not be the best phrasing ...



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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:29:21 -0600
From: "Matthew Senn"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

except when you drop *that* LSD, is doesn't hurt quite so bad . . .


- ----- Original Message -----
From: William S. Hart
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question


> > Posi is GM speak for a LSD...
> >
> > "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
> >
>
> Ya know Bill, taken out of context that might not be the best phrasing ...
>
> ;)
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
> 96 Mustang GT 4.6L
> 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:35:29 -0600
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

I've noticed a brand new thermostat (high performance) that made a
"popping" noise when it opened & closed. Perhaps it was due to the cooling
system being one gallon short or the thermo needed a break in period, but it
works fine now.
Could this explain the popping noise in your truck?


Danger
danger csolutions.net


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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:12:07 -0700
From: "Josh Assing"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Was timing, now backfire(?) popping...

> I've noticed a brand new thermostat (high performance) that made a
> Could this explain the popping noise in your truck?
I doubt it. It sounds too "exhaust" like.. I'm going to really search
for a pin-hole leak in the headers tonight.

- -j
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:54:33 -0500
From: "David H. Uhrbrock"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '63 Master Cylinder

I have a 1963 F100 with the original one-piston master cylinder. I would
like to put a dual-piston master cylinder in its place. Has anyone on this
group done this? Part numbers would be very helpful.

Thanks

David H. Uhrbrock
david.uhrbrock utmb.edu

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:07:01 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage

Kirk, I think you're doing pretty good to be getting ten mpg. I used to
have a '73/4 ton(390, 4 spd, 4 bbl, 4.56 gears, and 2wd) that wouldn't
do any better than ten mpg no matter what I tried. Considering you're
carrying around four wheel drive parts, 35's and 4.10's, I would guess
you'd get less mpg than you do.
Jason

Kirk Baillie wrote:
>
> Hi I own a 74 f250 4X4 highboy with a 360. Just wondering what other
> guys are getting for mileage. That last time i went on a big trip with
> the truck i got 10 mpg i think i should be getting more. One factor i
> have not taking into effect is that im running 35" with 410 gears. Is
> there a program on the net that with calculate the actual speed that i
> am traveling based on my new tire size?.
>
> thanks
> Kirk Baillie
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:12:10 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fe Pulleys

FTE,
Looking for a crank pulley for 61 thru 67 V8's that drive the power
steering pump. The Ford P/N is C1AZ-6A312-C. THANKS.
Tim
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:16:53 EDT
From: DR11AGON aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1978 Ford F150 Supercab 4x4 parting out sale:

PARTING OUT SALE:
1978 FORD F150, Supercab 4x4: Has many good parts. whole front end no rust, 2
cabs to chose from, solid 8' bed, good drivetrain: 351M(crane cam, edelbrock
intake, holley 4 barrel, flowtech headers, dual exhaust with h-pipe and
flowmasters), C-6 tranny, transfer case, Ford 9" rear(3.50 gears), Dana44
front(3.50 gears), new doors, new door weatherstrip, new front window visor,
new parking brake cable, 1/2 good tread on 35" B.F. Goodrich All-Terrain.
Call for prices. mileage: 138000.
(215) 886-6956 Located in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia area.
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:47:15 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Torque/HP Description

Does anyone have that link to the explanation (in laymen's terms) on the
difference between torque and horsepower???????????

I lost it!

CJ
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:15:56 -0400
From: "Marvin Meyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 330/361/391 Truck Heads

Has anyone experienced cracked heads due to just plain old sitting/age?
I have a B-600 bus/motorhome, and the exhaust side of the head cracked, on
top between the head and exhaust port flange. The cracks are directly over
top of the port so when the motor is running, you here a leakage. The cracks
are 5/8 -3/4" long and can easily be welded up without taking anything apart
other than battery terminal removal. Seems to me poor quality castings ring
a bell. The antifreeze was good for -64, i just went to start the old girl
up one day and noticed a leak.
Porosity in the iron?
People were talking gas mileage, this 361 9spd got 11 hwy

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:11:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

At 02:35 PM 28:9:99 -0600, Danger wrote:
>> Just stick with locker and/or limited slip differential (LSD) and you'll
>be
>> fine. Stay away from "posi"
>>
>> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>.............
>

> Um.... What's wrong with posi? It won't fit in a Lincoln Versailles 9"?
>
> I've got a PowerLoc Posi in my 69 F250 and I'm very happy with it.

Hey "Danger"

Posi is a GM term....
No more need be said...

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:10:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Car-o-scope

At 09:01 AM 28:9:99 -0700, Bill Beyer wrote:

>At least there was another pickup on the list even if it was a Dodge, which
>BTW I think is the perfect name to put on the front of a truck...

If that ain't a statement and a half, While the Rock and I were on vacation
I borrowed my buds Dodge. I had to make a serious dump run. So SWMBO
and I load up the Dodge and head out, as we are slowing to turn into the
dump the brake pedal goes to the floor, real sudden I'm trying to slow 3600lbs
of junk, and 1500lbs of trash with the E brake. Not a hell of a lot of fun
I can
tell ya.

When I got it stopped I took a look under the truck, the rear brakeline
had blown out where it jumps around the rearend cover. Rock asks
what we need to fix it, My first thought was "A clean pair shorts might
be a good starting point."

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage

At 06:07 PM 28:9:99 -0500, Jason & Kathy Kendrick wrote:
>Kirk, I think you're doing pretty good to be getting ten mpg. I used to
>have a '73/4 ton(390, 4 spd, 4 bbl, 4.56 gears, and 2wd) that wouldn't
>do any better than ten mpg no matter what I tried.

Good point, SWMBO's Grampa truck -67 F250 Camper Special- Got
10mpg, Empty, loaded, pulling a 4 horse trailer, or whatever, thats
all It ever got. Grampa's dead just now, but the Truck lives on. Aunt
Val's got it.... and it still gets 10mpg.....

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:11:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rear End Question

At 03:54 PM 28:9:99 -0500, William S. Hart wrote:
> > Um.... What's wrong with posi?
>
>its a Ch*vy term ...
>
> > It won't fit in a Lincoln
> > Versailles 9"?
> >
>
>It might, ;) but a Trac-Loc should fit ... its a slightly different design
>principle, but in the end they all do the same (or similar) things ...

What you want to call it is a Detroit {Detroy-it for you Canucks}
Locker.
They make a funny clicking noise when turning, but are the finest
locking differentials made...IMNSHO.

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:46:29 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage

thanks cause i was just wondering since I have only owned it for about 5
months and 4 of those have been devoted to restoring the body and
interior. So i haven't really done much to the motor other than set the
timing and idle and through in new plugs wires and coil.

Jason & Kathy Kendrick wrote:
>
> Kirk, I think you're doing pretty good to be getting ten mpg. I used to
> have a '73/4 ton(390, 4 spd, 4 bbl, 4.56 gears, and 2wd) that wouldn't
> do any better than ten mpg no matter what I tried. Considering you're
> carrying around four wheel drive parts, 35's and 4.10's, I would guess
> you'd get less mpg than you do.
> Jason
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:14:01 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Truck age

Send us the vin # and I'm sure someone can tell you what year it is .
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:28:35 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '63 Master Cylinder

In a message dated 99-09-28 19:02:33 EDT, you write:


like to put a dual-piston master cylinder in its place. Has anyone on this
group done this? Part numbers would be very helpful.

Thanks
>>
Where to start ? You want power or manual / disc. or drum ? The easy way
would be to stick with manual . Try one from a mustang , you can also make
them power by using the booster from the same .Good luck
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:12:54 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 74 f250 gas mileage

Mine was the same way-empty or loaded, it always got ten mpg. It was
real dependable, too. My only regret was selling it so I could buy that
stupid camaro.... Anyway, 30 days and two engines later, I had another
Ford in the driveway. This one gets better mileage.
Jason

>
> Good point, SWMBO's Grampa truck -67 F250 Camper Special- Got
> 10mpg, Empty, loaded, pulling a 4 horse trailer, or whatever, thats
> all It ever got. Grampa's dead just now, but the Truck lives on. Aunt
> Val's got it.... and it still gets 10mpg.....
>
> Steve & the Rockette
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:26:33 -0500
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 cooler lines

Just wondering which line is the output line on a C6. I moved my tranny
cooler and radiator to the bed and just want to make sure I get the fluid....


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