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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, September 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 339



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Gasket/molding
FTE 61-79 - Truck is running
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 66 has ugly dash
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck is running
Re: FTE 61-79 - More Questions about engine choices
FTE 61-79 - 428/Howlin rear end/leak down test
Re: FTE 61-79 - 428/Howlin rear end/leak down test
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gasket/molding
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual battery setup

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:16:36 EDT
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gasket/molding

I have seen my Father reuse the windshield gasket and chrome trim for a 65
once and the old gasket would not meet together at the ends again even with
treating it with silicone spray . The chrome is good to reuse if in good
shape , but the finished installation will only look as good as the materials
used . I would recommend using both new gasket and chrome . Before using the
new gasket , treat it with some silicone spray .
Both the gasket and the chrome should be available through a large glass
supply warehouse . Harding Glass of Tulsa , Oklahoma is where my Dad gets his
supplies at times .
If you need more help on this I can get more details of the installation and
pitfalls to be aware of .
I hope this helps !
Rollie H. Hunt
King , N. C.
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:18:47 -0400
From: Garry Bowling
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck is running

Well finally after 3 weeks and alot of time and a major headache I
finally got the truck running after removing the oil pan to change the
gasket. There seemed to be a comedy of errors but in the end it is
finished and running. I will have to watch it over the next day or two
to determine if the oil leak is fixed. I do know that I have one valve
cover that is leaking and that is an easy fix that I will do this
weekend. Just want to let everyone know.
Garry

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:25:38 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 66 has ugly dash

At 06:57 PM 9/20/99 -0700, you wrote:

>>Some companies do make the dash pads for mid-sixties era trucks.
>> but they are very expensive, like $350. to $600.

My '64 doesn't have a dash pad at all, just the head cracker
steel. After seeing what a new dash pad costs, it'll probably stay that way
for awhile. I have yet to see any for less than $350.



Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:25:26 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck is running

In a message dated 9/20/99 11:23:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
garrya bellsouth.net writes:

> Well finally after 3 weeks and alot of time and a major headache I
> finally got the truck running

Glad to hear it's running Garry. Sometimes these little headaches turn into
major surgery!

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:44:34 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - More Questions about engine choices

Greg, you could pocket port and polish your heads. It will help prevent
future carbon build-up, but the Fe heads run really well without any
help.
I'd go with tthe Edelbrock intake over the cast iron manifold anyday.
You lose about 50 lbs with the Edelbrock manifold, and you have
straighter, smoother ports for more torque and hp.
The 428 naturally has more torque because of the longer stroke, but the
added cost of buying a 428 might be more than you want to spend. I'd not
even bother looking for a 428 because I know what a 390 will do. I
pulled a Charger for my brother awhile back and never got below 50 mph
uphill. Never had to downshift, either. Stopping was interesting with my
manual drums. (Need to get my power discs installed!)
My F100 will cruise at 80 mph all day long. It's got a 390 2bbl, C6,
and 3.50 gears. Mileage is around 14 or 15 average, with a low of seven,
and a high of 23 mpg! Don't ask me how I got 23 mpg-my balancer has spun
and I time it by ear and feel!

Jason

Greg Fisher wrote:
>
> Thanks to Jason Kendrick, George Litton, Danger (I'd like to get that 460
> off you, if just fro future use, but too far away), Tom Hogan, and Gary
> Peters for your answers and the welcome to the list. I wasn't able to get
> this out the past weekend because I was a cr show, the Charlotte Auto Fair.
> Well, it seems the 390 route is the way to go. I guess I'll know whether or
> not I'll go 30 over. I have a few more questions now:
>
> 1) Since there are no 4V FE heads and it has been mentioned that "pocket
> porting" is a waste of time, would it still be beneficial to polish the
> bowls and port match to the intake?
> 2) Which way is the best way to go with the intake: find a cast iron one or
> just go with the Edelbrock performer 390?
> 3) Would a 428 be that much better? I know "there's no substitute for
> cubes", but does the 428 have the low end torque that atruck needs?
>
> I plan on using this as a work truck: hauling and towing. The thing I don't
> want tho, is having to go 55mph on the interstate(70mph) when I need to go
> somewhere.
> Thanks again.
>
> Greg Fisher
> '68 F150 Longbed
> Rock Hill/Townville SC
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:14:23 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 428/Howlin rear end/leak down test

3) Would a 428 be that much better? I know "there's no substitute for
> cubes", but does the 428 have the low end torque that atruck needs?

I did notice more pulling power with my 428 as opposed to my old 390,
but a 390 or a 410 would be a fine truck engine also.

>Not married yet, but this summer I'll be singing a different story. Is
>this my nightmare waiting to happen? 8^) I picked up a Ford engine
>exchange manual - I might learn something now. Yeah, I'd like to get a >428 but money always seems to put a serious dent in my plans,

I think we can all relate to that one!!!
You will be happier with a first class 390 than a 428 that you had to
cut corners on.

I got a howl coming fron the rear of my truck.(mainly when cold)
How can I tell if it's the carrier bearing or the rear end?

On a leakdown test how many P.S.I. do I put in the cylinder?
What is a exceptable leak down rate.








new paint job etc.etc.
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:37:10 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 428/Howlin rear end/leak down test

To locate my bad wheel bearings, I used my hand to feel for excessive
heat. If it's hot after a few miles, check it out.

Jason

J.S.H. wrote:

>
> I got a howl coming fron the rear of my truck.(mainly when cold)
> How can I tell if it's the carrier bearing or the rear end?
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:56:14 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gasket/molding

At 01:32 PM 9/20/99 -0700, you wrote:


> Ok. So does anyone know where I could get a GOOD/NEW gasket? .. also I
> have the original chrome molding, can it be reused?


Just about every Ford Truck parts catalog I have carries
these. Try these places: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.macsautoparts.com/index.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.auto krafters. com /welcome.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford-obsolete-parts.com/
It will probably run you about $40. Most of these placed will sell
you a "kit" that includes, windshield rubber, rear window rubber, door
gaskets, and cowl lacing for a pretty decent price.




ed Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:46:19 PDT
From: "George Litton"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual battery setup

you put the second battery on the drivers side fenderwell, opposite of the
starting battery.


>From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual battery setup
>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:10:36 EDT
>
>In a message dated 09/19/1999 3:03:30 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>GMontgo930 aol.com
>writes:
>
>
> battery) you can install a battery isolator. Ive seen em available in
>parts
> stores like Autozone. Basically they allow you to connect the batteries
>in
> parallel, but keeps them isolated from each other. One can provide the
>truck
> starting power while the other can run power accessories etc w/o fear of
> running down the starting battery. No switches to flip when charging
>either
> as the isolator splits the alternator charging current to each battery.
> Check it out. Simple to instal with some obvious bennies over plain ol
> parallel wired batteries. >>
>
>This sounds like something I may wanna do when I get a sport bar w/ offroad
>lights, but where do ya put the second battery??
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