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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, September 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 319



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 61-79 - Tires
RE: FTE 61-79 - Door Seal Install Q's
RE: FTE 61-79 - 390 Power and Edelbrock Heads Compared
RE: FTE 61-79 - looking for help with 68 4x4 auto swap
FTE 61-79 - more tail lights
RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
FTE 61-79 - Wheel Bolt patterns, F-100's vs F-150's
RE: FTE 61-79 - more tail lights
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)
FTE 61-79 - RE: Brake Bleeding - Sorry for the late reply
FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Brake Bleeding - Sorry for the late reply
RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)
FTE 61-79 - off center engines
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Cheating the List
FTE 61-79 - RE: 400 Cams
RE: FTE 61-79 - more tail lights
FTE 61-79 - Y blocks
RE: FTE 61-79 - I need Fenders and a Tailgate
FTE 61-79 - Y Blocks
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 400 Cams
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Cheating the List
FTE 61-79 - Flair side
RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...
FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Flair side
RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...
RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
FTE 61-79 - 1963 F-250
Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
FTE 61-79 - Power steering conversion
FTE 61-79 - Door Seal Install Q's
Re: FTE 61-79 - tranny questions
FTE 61-79 - Tires and Transmission

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:07:07 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tires

Hi Erik! What the heck are you doing here? Nice to hear from you again :-)
Can't handle all the mail of the bronco list right now so had to make a
decision and opted for this list which is a little less wordy :-)

As to hard to roll......I took off this morning and thought I had made a
mistake shifting and couldn't get the fog out of my head to realize I was
turning 4000 rpm in high gear because I had used low range to move the
lincoln around in the barn and forgot to shift it back :-) Squalled the
tires, took off like a rocket, had more spunk than it ever did......then the
light came on :-) Had to stop about .3 miles from my driveway to shift back
to hi range :-) (once the fog lifted :-))

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> Just for GP I thought make it known.. BFG AT's in 35x12.50x15
> are 34.5 in
> reality. If this helps great, if not, well put in the back where any
> respectable motor head has a ton of useless knowledge :-)
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:27:13 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Door Seal Install Q's

3-M, black door seal cement is the anwser. Contact cement won't hold up,
nor will gasket cement :-(

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> I used contact cement and when installing rubber into a
> corner invariably one side touches (and sticks) before
> the other leaving the seal in a slightly wrong position.
>
> Teach me oh all knowing ones of the FTE!
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:25:15 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 390 Power and Edelbrock Heads Compared

I'm not an FE guy but I remember hearing that the stock "manifolds" are
really the problem, not the heads? This is one reason all the magazine
articles use headers for power discussions.

It's obvious that they had no real breathing problems because no FE I've
heard of had any trouble hitting some decent revs which is a good sign it's
breathing pretty well :-) Now the stock 460 OTOH..........

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> I'm no airflow expert, OK? But, from looking at and living with these
> engines for years, I can see that there are some misconceptions the
> aftermarket has propogated in designing their parts. I have to give
> Edelbrock some credit for finally doing a little research on them and
> seeing what I've been saying for years. That those old engines could
> breathe!
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:55:30 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - looking for help with 68 4x4 auto swap

Ford is the only manufacturer which recognized the need to allow more foot
room for the driver so offset the engine a little. This design also,
incedentally offsets the weight of the driver as well as allowing a little
more room for a front drive shaft.......:-)

The reason I mention these in this order is because I used to be a "Vanner"
and if you have ever experienced the Chevy van driving experience and then
also the Ford van experience you will know what I mean....:-)

Now.....what came first the chick...........:-)

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> > CJ, I always thought that the off center mounting of the engine and
> > transmission was to compensate for the drivers weight. Most
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:11:04 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - more tail lights

I had developed an intermittant problem with my left turn signal not
working. I knew it was a bad ground from all of the list discussion. I also
knew it was in my left rear bulb because it was dimmer than the right one.
First, I switched bulbs. No change. I decided to begin the extra bulb
project that we had discussed awhile back. I proceeded as we had described
in cutting a new hole and installing a separator so that the new bulb
wouldn't show white to the rear. I used a piece of reflector from an old
emergency triangle cut to the proper length. I wired the new bulb in the
same as the old one, figuring that it would work correctly while I traced
down the grounding problem. Wrong! When I turned on the turn signals with
the second bulb in the circuit, the two bulbs flashed alternately. There was
the ground problem in the old bulb holder. Sure enough, the ground wire was
burned off at the site of a previous repair. I snipped out the old bulb
holder, spliced in the one I had planned for the other side and put it all
back together. Now the turn signals wouldn't flash at all. A quick swap of
the flasher from the four way circuit fixed that. Now I need some new bulbs,
two new flashers (HD of course), and another socket from the bone yard.

I like the second bulb in the tail light assembly. Those brake lights are
really bright with two bulbs. I am now going to add a second bulb like fits
in the side markers to the parking lights.

What fun!!

- -- John
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:27:54 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Get the wide ratio gear set in the C-6, put 33's on it, gear the speedo and
you will have overdrive at a much lower price :-)

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> Now Ive seen units from an outfit called gear vendors. It
> looks nice and
> small and will allow me to split all the gears. However the
> $2500 plus
> installation price tag is a bit steep.
>
> My second Idea formed after some comments here in the group.
> What is the
> possibility of replacing my C6 with an AOD? As I understand
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:29:18 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wheel Bolt patterns, F-100's vs F-150's

>> All -100's of that era used the 5 on 5 -1/2 bolt
>>pattern.................
>> Don Grossman
>
> Don- I have an all original 81 F-100, 4x2. It has the car 4 1/2" bolt
> pattern on it. I was told the 80 to 82 ( I think ) F-100's had the small
> pattern; but the F-150's had the larger pattern. Phil
>
>
I can vouch for this. My dad used to have an '81 F100. When he bought it
used, he wanted to take the wheels off of his '74 F100 and put them on the
'81 because the '74 had new tires. The bolt pattern was different.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:52:35 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - more tail lights

> the flasher from the four way circuit fixed that. Now I need
> some new bulbs,
> two new flashers (HD of course), and another socket from the bone yard.
>

Did you know you can get those sockets from your local parts store ? The
only reason I mention that is because they are hard to find in decent shape
around here (all rusted out), so I searched through some that we had in the
local store, worked great, wire colors were different, but who cares as long
as you know which one goes where ... that was 5 years ago, no problems
since...

> I like the second bulb in the tail light assembly. Those brake lights are
> really bright with two bulbs. I am now going to add a second
> bulb like fits
> in the side markers to the parking lights.
>

Hey that side marker/parking light idea sounds like a pretty good one ... I
always thought those turn signals were pretty dim ...'course this is IA so
no one believes you if you signal anyway (too many trucks with them stuck on
:)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:01:04 PDT
From: "White Wolf"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)

well, my original 3-spd w/od was just black, but when I had my regular 3-spd
put in it was orange... probably didnt help much huh.


>Does anyone have any information on whether Ford put paint on their
>standard
>3spd manual transmission in 1966

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Brake Bleeding - Sorry for the late reply

I apologize for the late reply. Buisness took me out of town this
week and I had problems accessing my e-mail.

Gary, wrote:
> Some of you are sending me private messages in respons to queries
> on the list which, IMHO, should be aired on the list so I ch*nge
> the address when I feel it is appropriate so all can share the
> inf*rmation. If anyone objects to this, please let me know in
> your post (each time) and I will honor your request for privacy :-)

I caught up on the list messages and didn't notice anyone replying
to this. As far as I know, it is widely understood that you should
not post someones private message to a public forum such as the FTE
list without their permission. I think most people expect some
level of privacy by default when sending a private e-mail.

That said, my message that you quoted WAS posted to the list and
the message you recieved was a cc. Since I am usually in digest
mode, I have appreciated it when others cc'ed me when replying to
my postings so I could respond more quickly.

I wrote:
>> If it is very hard to turn the rotors with my hands, wheel and tire
>> off, can I be sure that this is not my problem? I am on my second
>> proportioning valve, one from a boneyard and one brand new one from
>> Ford.

Gary replied:
> Sitting on blocks in the shop will not give you a true picture of
> how the this valve is working because in use it relys on some
> interaction with the pavement irregularities to "adjust" the pads.

Hmmm, I never thought of it this way. Thanks. Pumping the brakes
dosen't help. The pedal is just as soft and travels just as far
whether I am in the garage or on the road. I think that means the
residual valve is not the problem?

> Air can be trapped in the MC between the bleed holes and outlets
> and with it tilted the bubbles stay out of reach of any passages.
> When you bring the MC level the air travels along the top of the
> cylinder and eventually finds either the bleed hole or the outlet
> and so can be pushed out in either direction.

OK, this sounds reasonable. The next time I bleed, I will park the
truck on a downhill (my driveway is pretty steep) and bleed them
once like that.

> I honestly don't understand the concept of tilted MC's if the
> bleeders and ports are not set up to work with the design but the
> book says even these have to be level to ensure getting all the
> air out so.....??

If your '78 has a level MC, this brings up a question. I am using
a MC from a '79 F-150 4WD. The booster holds it at an angle. Do
I have the wrong booster on there? This is a '74 F-100 4WD that
originally came with power drum brakes. A previous owner installed
the disk brake MC. I don't know if the booster is the original.

Anyone have a '79 F-150 4WD that can verify if the MC is level or
not?

Mark in Southwest Washington
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

In one of the recent brake bleeding threads, someone mentioned using
a Mity-Vac. I looked into just what a Mity-Vac was and now want to
get one. With the right assortment of accessories it is a versatile
tool. It appears there are several kits put together that contain
different sets of accessories, but I can't find a complete list of
the kits, nor can I find where to buy them. Should I check the local
motorcycle shops? Anyone know a phone number or website for them?

Mark in Southwest Washington
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:23:36 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)

Ford man

There are some paints on the market that leave it unpainted looking but put
a protected coating on to keep from rusting.



At 02:08 PM 9/4/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Ford man
>It was not uncommon to find Ford drivetrain parts unpainted in the late '50s
>and '60s. IMHO, if I were doing a restoration that would see KNOWLEDGEABLE
>judging and found an inspection mark and the rest of the tranny were void of
>any paint I would not paint the tranny. I would try to get the casting to
>look original and let the mark visible. If all your truck will see is the
>"parking lot, whomever they can catch" judging, paint it, because most of
>them won't know what is correct and what is not. Most of this type judging
>I've seen means that "if the paint don't shine, it ain't good 'nuf", If
>your intent is "bone stock original", don't paint. Might be someone will
>KNOW what is correct and respond. Good luck, ray
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:09:35 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Brake Bleeding - Sorry for the late reply

I was just pointing out that we should address the list with tech questions
because, in spite of the fact that I think I know everything, I don't really
know everything and questions may be better served via the list most of the
time. Private mailings actually cheat the sender out of potential
information, that's all :-)

I don't mind private mailings, just don't think it's the best way to get
"all" the info :-) Emailing someone privately for a fax or picture he has
that you want or to arrange for a privete meeting for a trail ride or shop
day or what ever are examples of a good reasons IMHO, Tech questions are not
:-) It not only cheats the sender but the points don't get aired for every
one else to benifit from either :-) My intention was to simply remind,
especially the new ones that this is the point of the list :-)

If you have to pump the brakes to get the front end to grab even a little
this is a good indication that the residual valve is not working but all
other aspects of the system need to be corrected first. Air can make it
feel this way too so you have to be absoultely sure the air is out before
making this deduction. Chances are, if you have bled them several times, it
may be time to look at the proportioning valve.

If you bench bleed the MC, level and keep it level and plugged while
installing it and then don't let it run out while hooking up the lines it
should stay bled. The video I got with my "Way over priced kit" actually
shows them tilting the car on the lift to get the MC level on newer cars. I
tried this on an escourt and found it doable but a little tricky to do
safely :-) Bench bleeding is probably the best way to do it but you must
keep it full once bled in any case.

I believe the cast iron MC's were used on quite a few, well beyond 78 but
not sure how far or in what applications. Since 79's are essentially the
same as 78's I would expect the MC to be the same as well but again can't be
sure.

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> Hmmm, I never thought of it this way. Thanks. Pumping the brakes
> dosen't help. The pedal is just as soft and travels just as far
> whether I am in the garage or on the road. I think that means the
> residual valve is not the problem?

> OK, this sounds reasonable. The next time I bleed, I will park the
> truck on a downhill (my driveway is pretty steep) and bleed them
> once like that.

> If your '78 has a level MC, this brings up a question. I am using
> a MC from a '79 F-150 4WD. The booster holds it at an angle. Do
> I have the wrong booster on there? This is a '74 F-100 4WD that
> originally came with power drum brakes. A previous owner installed
> the disk brake MC. I don't know if the booster is the original.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:13:09 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

Sears, Harbor Freight, Northern Hydraulics among others have them. The kit
you want runs right about $55 I believe. Some catalogs offer a bleeding kit
with special adapters to fit the bleeders and clear tubing etc. These parts
are worth a little extra and make the job so much nicer. I just paid way
too much for what I got, don't buy the Pheonix kit, it's a waste of good
money, trust me :-(

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> In one of the recent brake bleeding threads, someone mentioned using
> a Mity-Vac. I looked into just what a Mity-Vac was and now want to
> get one.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:17:36 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)

In a message dated 9/7/99 10:03:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitewolf_ hotmail.com writes:

> well, my original 3-spd w/od was just black, but when I had my regular
3-spd
> put in it was orange... probably didnt help much huh.
>
Every little bit of input helps. That orange stuff is better left to the
Chebbies. Sorry Stu...but that's what I think of when I see it.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:19:06 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-250 3spd. Manual Transmission (Painted or not?)

In a message dated 9/7/99 10:27:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Larry.Schmiedekamp angelo.edu writes:

>
> There are some paints on the market that leave it unpainted looking but put
> a protected coating on to keep from rusting.
>
Thanks for your input Larry. Have you personally tried any of these
products? What is the "List" concensus on Eastwood's products?


Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:18:43 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - off center engines

Here's my wooden nickel's worth on the subject.

There are limits for various reasons that restrict the amount of power that
can be transmitted from the engine to the drive wheels. Not only does
driveline configuration come into the equation, but so does the mass of the
vehicle. Ever wonder why Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs are still rear
drive? You can't put a 5.0 liter V8 in a front drive car and produce the
kind of power those puppies do and still control the car. In a 4x4, the same
principle applies when powering the front wheels. The engine offset allows
for the transfer case to be located properly with respect to the front axle.
Each axle in the front has to be a certain ratio of length to each other. In
other words, you can't set the pumpkin over 6 inches from one wheel and six
feet from the other. The axle design that transmits the most controllable
power is where the pumpkin is centered (aka like a rear drive). Go back and
look at front drive transaxle offerings. The early front drive turbos only
came with automatics. This was to keep John Q. Public from engaging the
turbo then popping the clutch. Instant turn regardless of the steering wheel
position. Early Eldos and the like weighed well over 7000 pounds and were
not transverse mounted. Sorry I can't provide any numbers. It has been about
15 years since I read any articles on this topic. Punt...

- -- John
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:32:29 -0500
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

I got my Mity-Vac at the local Big Wheel Rossi. It was $29.99 or something
and it had a bunch of different attachments for different size brake
bleeders. I love the thing, it makes bleeding brakes SO easy, and you can
do it by yourself.

Brett
76 F250 4x4 460 38" swampers
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>In one of the recent brake bleeding threads, someone mentioned using
>a Mity-Vac. I looked into just what a Mity-Vac was and now want to
>get one. With the right assortment of accessories it is a versatile
>tool. It appears there are several kits put together that contain
>different sets of accessories, but I can't find a complete list of
>the kits, nor can I find where to buy them. Should I check the local
>motorcycle shops? Anyone know a phone number or website for them?
>
>Mark in Southwest Washington
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:42:01 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Cheating the List

In a message dated 9/7/99 11:16:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
gpeters3 visteon.com writes:

> I don't mind private mailings, just don't think it's the best way to get
> "all" the info :-) Emailing someone privately for a fax or picture he has
> that you want or to arrange for a private meeting for a trail ride or shop
> day or what ever are examples of a good reasons IMHO, Tech questions are
not
> :-) It not only cheats the sender but the points don't get aired for every
> one else to benefit from either :-) My intention was to simply remind,
> especially the new ones that this is the point of the list :-)

This is a little off the quoted topic but Gary's comments about the purpose
of the list are timely as they relate to some thoughts I have had about the
List. I was curious how many on the "List" go to the FTE BBS Message Center
on a regular basis? The message center clearly does not see the same level
of contributions or the frequent number of contributors as the list. As a
regular frequenter of both venues, the message center has split off some of
the list traffic which, if recollection serves me, was an intended result. I
am not sure whether this is good or bad, but perhaps it has diluted some of
the discussion. I know I feel like I have to be in both places or I will
miss out on an interesting discussion. There have been times when good
questions have gone unanswered for several days on the message center. I
certainly am not knocking Ken or Peggy because I am sure I do not even begin
to appreciate the hours of dedication they put forth to keep FTE the top
notch site that it is. I'm just throwing this out there for whatever it's
worth.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:42:43 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 400 Cams

To save band width 2 Cut up posts one reply:
________________________________________
From: "Bill Beyer"
SNIP
How do you think this cam would fare on the sniffer test?
SNIP
costs all that much more than a stock one since this isn't a SBC. Any
preference on who does it?
I'm sorta leaning towards Crane since I'm going to be using their adj.
rocker conversion kit.
________________________________________
In day's gone buy I would have simply directed you to "CROWER" as they list
patterns that are not made by anybody else. And I suppose that simply
mentioning them has done the trick. Check em out. This is not a
recommendation of CROWER!
With the 109 Lobe center it may be difficult but not impossible to get past
the "Smogophiles" it really depends on how well the rest of the system
works.
I believe that it will be difficult do get any long duration to pass with
stock ex. manifolds. The Back Pressure that they generate will cause
problems due to overlap. So this may affect how you chose to build the
engine. Consider a mild cam until you get to the headers. Then change the
cam. Yes it will cost a bit more in the long run but, it may be more
practical too.
Who to talk to?
Comp Cams: Has been vary helpful in the past. I'm sorry but I don't have the
gentleman's name that I have talked to. Basically they would take various
profile lobes and mix and match em till something new came out of the
grinder.
Crane: Though I have not had them do and custom work since Harvey Crane was
forced out!
Crower: May have something vary close to what you want in a standard grind.
D. Elgin Racing Cams: Real sharp people! But they are swamped so your lead
time may be a problem. They are good, they are busy. Correlation?
________________________________________
From: Dan Lee
I am going with a Crane HMV 278-2 cam in my 400. It is
a dual pattern cam with slightly more lift and
duration than the H 272-2 that you mentioned. My 400
will have 351C-4V heads, also flattop pistons (about
10:1 with those heads), balanced, fluid damper, roller
rockers, Edlebrock Performer(351C), 750 CFM Carter,
headers, high stall torque converter, C6 w/shift kit.
However my project is a '53 F100 street rod. I want to
thumb my nose at chebby powered fords.
SNIP
________________________________________
Several years ago I had a friend that was running this cam in a F250 4x4
The truck had 38" Swampers and 4.56 gears and an Auto(I think). The rest of
the engine was close to your specs. The truck could easily spin all 4 of the
38's on the street, until the new drive shaft broke!
For what you are aiming for I think that you have made a good choice.
I notice that you don't list headers in you specs. Without them you will be
disappointed in this cam. I would also recommend minimally 2.5" duals with a
balance tube, 3" would be better if you are looking for high end power.
________________________________________
My question for the group is what would
I ask for at the parts store to get a Duraspark Dist.
for a 400 motor.
________________________________________
If you are going to modify it like I described even a Junkyard unit will
work because you will remachine all of the bearings.

Later
Muel



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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:44:01 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - more tail lights

Boughs them off the shelf last month for my '77 E150. The wire were the
same color and fixed my problem. Cost $5 each.

- -----Original Message-----
From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 6:53 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - more tail lights


> the flasher from the four way circuit fixed that. Now I need
> some new bulbs,
> two new flashers (HD of course), and another socket from the bone yard.
>

Did you know you can get those sockets from your local parts store ? The
only reason I mention that is because they are hard to find in decent shape
around here (all rusted out), so I searched through some that we had in the
local store, worked great, wire colors were different, but who cares as long
as you know which one goes where ... that was 5 years ago, no problems
since...

> I like the second bulb in the tail light assembly. Those brake lights are
> really bright with two bulbs. I am now going to add a second
> bulb like fits
> in the side markers to the parking lights.
>

Hey that side marker/parking light idea sounds like a pretty good one ... I
always thought those turn signals were pretty dim ...'course this is IA so
no one believes you if you signal anyway (too many trucks with them stuck on
:)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:39:52 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Y blocks

Burt H. writes: >>Don't forget about the 272 Y-Block.

And U add: Also the 239 and 255(?) (or whatever the '54 Merc was). Whatever -
The 1st Overhead valves were the same Cu In as their flathead predecessors


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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:47:24 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - I need Fenders and a Tailgate

Put a 60/40 out of a '95 into my inlaws '67. Only had to drill 2 holes if I
recall correctly. Paid $200 for a brand new take-out from a Ford recycler
(that was in '96). Looks great!

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Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 7:48 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - I need Fenders and a Tailgate


Hi, I need fenders and a tail gate for my 70 F100 2WD Short Bed automatic
302 cu in. Also what late model trucks can I get a 60/40 Split bench seat
out of that will fit my truck size wise. Actual bolt mounting fit is not a
concern.

Anthony D. Daniels

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:43:18 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Y Blocks

Burt H. writes: >>Don't forget about the 272 Y-Block.

And I add: Also the 239 and the 255 (or whatever they were in '54. The Cu In
of the 1st Overhead Valves were the same as their previous years flatheads, and
I think I'm on target with 239 and 255.. could be a few inches off, but not
far.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:54:17 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 400 Cams

OK I put the Crower cam that was mentioned in an earlier post into mix and
with the exception of the lobe separation being 112 deg instead of 109 it is
very close to the custom cam you described. I may have to look at that one
real hard.

Now as long as we're talking about distributors what mods should I plan an
making to the one I put in this engine? New mech adv weights & springs? Adj
vac adv?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Samuel
To: A 61-79 FORD TRUCKS
Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:43 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 400 Cams



>My question for the group is what would
>I ask for at the parts store to get a Duraspark Dist.
>for a 400 motor.
>________________________________________
>If you are going to modify it like I described even a Junkyard unit will
>work because you will remachine all of the bearings.



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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:02:23 -0400
From: kpayne ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Cheating the List

>
> This is a little off the quoted topic but Gary's comments about the purpose
> of the list are timely as they relate to some thoughts I have had about the
> List. I was curious how many on the "List" go to the FTE BBS Message Center
> on a regular basis? The message center clearly does not see the same level
> of contributions or the frequent number of contributors as the list.

Some parts of the message center do have fairly high traffic. Since the
new message center came online in June, there's been over 50 meg of
postings.
Granted the lists have more traffic, but the message center isn't
insignificant.

>As a
> regular frequenter of both venues, the message center has split off some of
> the list traffic which, if recollection serves me, was an intended result. I
> am not sure whether this is good or bad, but perhaps it has diluted some of
> the discussion.

Unfortunately, true. However, it does have one added bonus. A visitor
can come in and browse the last 2 months of topics and do a web based
search. The list archives are simply too big to do this.

> I know I feel like I have to be in both places or I will
> miss out on an interesting discussion. There have been times when good
> questions have gone unanswered for several days on the message center. I
> certainly am not knocking Ken or Peggy because I am sure I do not even begin
> to appreciate the hours of dedication they put forth to keep FTE the top
> notch site that it is. I'm just throwing this out there for whatever it's
> worth.
>

Expect to see some big changes in the next 3 months. FTE will no
longer have drive space concerns. We'll have 10 gigabytes of drive
space for the server. The list archives will be brought back on line,
in both browseable and searchable forms. This will add another 200
megabytes of content to the site and additional 10,000 HTML files!

Also, I going to ask the AFTE club if they want added benefits and I
plan to increase the scope of the web site. As some of you may have
noticed, we've got lots of new banner ads floating around the site.
Thanks to a deal with a web advertising agency to sell our excess ad
impressions, FTE will be able to do more things for the members without
it being a financial burden.

More on this later when I have more details.

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:35:11 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Flair side

Don G. writes: >>Watch what you say about Flair sides buster

Tell him Don... No Ch*bby words here. Fords are Flairsides and Stylesides.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:40:45 PDT
From: "White Wolf"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

I found mine at Autozone for about $25 or $30 but I myself have not been
impressed. I've used it 3 times and all three had to go back the next day
and used toe 2-man method due to sponginess in the system.


>Sears, Harbor Freight, Northern Hydraulics among others have them. The kit
>you want runs right about $55 I believe. Some catalogs offer a bleeding
>kit
>with special adapters to fit the bleeders and clear tubing etc. These
>parts
>are worth a little extra and make the job so much nicer

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:49:34 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...

Robert Werner said:
> Also, the county fair had a demolition derby recently. I wonder why
> Chevy's are the victims of choice for those things, and why Fords
> always end up towing them off the track?

I did a little research on demolition derbys a while back. It's true that
Fords are rarely used in derbys. There are two reasons for this. The first
is that apparently most of the cars and wagons fold up like accordians when
hit in the rear -- and that's where a demolition car needs to do all of
it's hitting. The second reason is that Fords are generally more expensive
than Chubbies. It's just too expensive to keep a Ford running in a
competition designed to destroy.

And the reason Fords are the ones towing the junkers off the track is
pretty obvious to everyone on this list.

Ford makes darn good trucks.

- -don

- --
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:02:17 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Hey George,

Have you considered just changing the diff gears???? How about putting in a
set of 3:50's????

I have these in my 69 F-100 4x4 and love em'....your 400 should be able to
pull them no problem....

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:08:43 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

I've got to say here that I only use the adapters and tubes from the kit now
and start by gravity bleeding, then use submersed tubes in fluid and pedal
bleed with bleeders wrapped in gasoline teflon tape. I can do this by
myself and have had very good luck with it so far.

Typically I put the truck on the lift, remove the wheels and do one at a
time. My setup makes this method easy but with jackstands this would be
more of a chore. You could do one end at a time fairly easily with jack
stands. I like to have the wheels off so I don't have to work so hard to
get at stuff. Old men get lazy ya know :-)

Before I discovered the residual valve thing I tried reverse bleeding,
vacuum bleeding, bench bleeding, 2 man bleeding, gravity bleeding all to no
avail which is why I say, if you have tried several times to bleed it and it
still doesn't improve then I would suspect this valve. My pickup which has
exactly the same system as the bronco will bleed out to a solid pedal with a
few pumps, even after replacing lines etc. and it comes up very hard within
less than an inch of pedal so I know the bleeding techniques I use are
effective, it't the other variables that mess us up :-)

The nice thing about the mightyvac is that it comes with a vacuum gauge
already on it for less money that most kits come with nothing, it's made
with metal parts and is a pretty nice piece of equipment. If I had
understood it's capabilities I would have bought it myself but we live and
learn :-( Sears sells a really nice one with all brass and stainless parts
for about $49 as I recall. I believe they also carry the mighty vac as
well.

- --
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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- --

> I found mine at Autozone for about $25 or $30 but I myself
> have not been
> impressed. I've used it 3 times and all three had to go back
> the next day
> and used toe 2-man method due to sponginess in the system.
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:25:22 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Flair side

Umm-- you are BOTH WRONG!!

Isn't it "FLARE-side"... ;-)

Tony
tony pscico.com
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At 12:35 PM 9/7/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Don G. writes: >>Watch what you say about Flair sides buster
>
>Tell him Don... No Ch*bby words here. Fords are Flairsides and Stylesides.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:34:44 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Gary,
What are the low and 2nd ratios on the wide ratio gear set?

Tom H

> ----------
> From: Peters, Gary (G.R.)[SMTP:gpeters3 visteon.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:27 AM
> To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
>
> Get the wide ratio gear set in the C-6, put 33's on it, gear the speedo
> and
> you will have overdrive at a much lower price :-)
>
> --
> Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
> --
>
> > Now Ive seen units from an outfit called gear vendors. It
> > looks nice and
> > small and will allow me to split all the gears. However the
> > $2500 plus
> > installation price tag is a bit steep.
> >
> > My second Idea formed after some comments here in the group.
> > What is the
> > possibility of replacing my C6 with an AOD? As I understand
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:54:19 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Don't know precisely but they give you 11% in first and 5% in second I
understand. All I can really say here is that I've used both and with the
460 and 2.75 gears that truck acts like it has 4.11 gears when you step on
it in low gear! That same engine used to stall with the other tranny with
4.11 gears so my hiney says it's mucho betta. Course the engine runs a tad
betta too so it's hard to say how much was what but it has plenty of bottom
end with this tranny and tall rear gears which give you the same effect as
OD.

Using an AOD is like going bacwards when you have a heavy truck with large
engine in it IMNSHO :-)

- --
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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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- --

> Gary,
> What are the low and 2nd ratios on the wide ratio gear set?
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:02:49 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
>
> Don't know precisely but they give you 11% in first and 5% in second I
> understand.

Supposedly

Std C-6 Wide ratio

1 2.46 2.72
2 1.46 1.54


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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:44:44 GMT
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...

Q.Why don't you ever see a FORD HURST?
A.Henry Ford himself wouldn't let Ford build anything that will not take you
there and get you back.




>From: "Don Haring, Jr."
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:49:34 -0400
>
>Robert Werner said:
> > Also, the county fair had a demolition derby recently. I wonder why
> > Chevy's are the victims of choice for those things, and why Fords
> > always end up towing them off the track?
>
>I did a little research on demolition derbys a while back. It's true that
>Fords are rarely used in derbys. There are two reasons for this. The first
>is that apparently most of the cars and wagons fold up like accordians when
>hit in the rear -- and that's where a demolition car needs to do all of
>it's hitting. The second reason is that Fords are generally more expensive
>than Chubbies. It's just too expensive to keep a Ford running in a
>competition designed to destroy.
>
>And the reason Fords are the ones towing the junkers off the track is
>pretty obvious to everyone on this list.
>
> Ford makes darn good trucks.
>
>-don
>
>--
>Don in Philadelphia
>Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon
>Falconaut: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fedora.net/falconaut | 61 Falcon Futura
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:02:00 -0500
From: "Shane"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Where do you get wide ratio gear set for a C-6? TIA


Shane




- ----- Original Message -----
From: Peters, Gary (G.R.)
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions


> Get the wide ratio gear set in the C-6, put 33's on it, gear the speedo
and
> you will have overdrive at a much lower price :-)
>
> --
> Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
> --
>
> > Now Ive seen units from an outfit called gear vendors. It
> > looks nice and
> > small and will allow me to split all the gears. However the
> > $2500 plus
> > installation price tag is a bit steep.
> >
> > My second Idea formed after some comments here in the group.
> > What is the
> > possibility of replacing my C6 with an AOD? As I understand
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:14:56 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Further proof that Fords are better ...

> Q.Why don't you ever see a FORD HURST?
> A.Henry Ford himself wouldn't let Ford build anything that will
> not take you
> there and get you back.
>

Oh, I thought you meant like the Hurst 442, you meant Hearse though ...
gotcha (the big funeral car) ...



Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:06:13 -0400
From: "Tony"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

Try Summit or Jegs. They both have web sites so you can order a free
catalog. Or try 1-800-345-4545 for Jegs or 1-800-230-3030 for Summit.
Anthony D. Daniels

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Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:19 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

In one of the recent brake bleeding threads, someone mentioned using
a Mity-Vac. I looked into just what a Mity-Vac was and now want to
get one. With the right assortment of accessories it is a versatile
tool. It appears there are several kits put together that contain
different sets of accessories, but I can't find a complete list of
the kits, nor can I find where to buy them. Should I check the local
motorcycle shops? Anyone know a phone number or website for them?

Mark in Southwest Washington
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'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4X4

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:43:29 -0700
From: "Robert W. Hill"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1963 F-250

I have a 1963 F-250 that has a 223/4speed and I am wondering how
difficult it is to put a 1979 302/auto, from a van into it. I don't know
if the 1963 model came with a V-8 option or not and if it did, will the
1979 motor fit into the mounts? Thank you, Robert Hill from South Dakota
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:40:32 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

CJ
Thanks, but that's my current gears (3.5:1). Ideally Ive been wanting to slow
the engine down at highway cruse without hurting 1st & 2nd, and a gearset
change in the diff's would scale everything. Besides, I like the 3.5's.

For starters, I think I'll look into the other recommendation about the wide
ratio gearset for my C6. Anybody know what trucks/tranny's had these gearsets?

Thanks for the Idea's.

George

In a message dated 9/7/99 2:05:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com
writes:



Have you considered just changing the diff gears???? How about putting in a
set of 3:50's????

I have these in my 69 F-100 4x4 and love em'....your 400 should be able to
pull them no problem....

CJ >>
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:50:18 -0500
From: "mstrawn"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?

I just happen to have the address and phone numbers for the Mityvac,
NEWARD ENTERPRISES
INCORPATED
P.O. Box 725
Cucamonga, Ca. 91729-0725

or
9251 Archibald Avenue
Cucamonga, CA 91730-5207

Telephone 1-800-mityvac(648-9822)
This info courtesy of the users manual back page.
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From: Tony
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?


> Try Summit or Jegs. They both have web sites so you can order a free
> catalog. Or try 1-800-345-4545 for Jegs or 1-800-230-3030 for Summit.
> Anthony D. Daniels
>
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> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of draco pacifier.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:19 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Cc: draco pacifier.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mity-Vac - where to get one?
>
> In one of the recent brake bleeding threads, someone mentioned using
> a Mity-Vac. I looked into just what a Mity-Vac was and now want to
> get one. With the right assortment of accessories it is a versatile
> tool. It appears there are several kits put together that contain
> different sets of accessories, but I can't find a complete list of
> the kits, nor can I find where to buy them. Should I check the local
> motorcycle shops? Anyone know a phone number or website for them?
>
> Mark in Southwest Washington
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco
> --
> '74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4X4
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:45:25 -0400
From: "Tony"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Diesel C6's had the wide ratio gear sets. Also while your in there you
might try adding the #9 roller bearing kit. It takes the place of the
thrust washer at the very bottom and comes with a new collar to bolt in the
bottom to allow the extra space needed the roller bearing. This mod alone
takes almost 50% of the friction out of the trans.
Anthony D. Daniels

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Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 6:41 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

CJ
Thanks, but that's my current gears (3.5:1). Ideally Ive been wanting to
slow
the engine down at highway cruse without hurting 1st & 2nd, and a gearset
change in the diff's would scale everything. Besides, I like the 3.5's.

For starters, I think I'll look into the other recommendation about the wide
ratio gearset for my C6. Anybody know what trucks/tranny's had these
gearsets?

Thanks for the Idea's.

George

In a message dated 9/7/99 2:05:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com
writes:



Have you considered just changing the diff gears???? How about putting in a
set of 3:50's????

I have these in my 69 F-100 4x4 and love em'....your 400 should be able to
pull them no problem....

CJ >>
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:25:45 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power steering conversion

Don,
There are a zillion Pitman arms out there. I have one that came off a 71....


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