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61-79-list-digest Monday, September 6 1999 Volume 03 : Number 317



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - FE Valve Adjustment
FTE 61-79 - Tires
FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - 223 aftermarket parts
FTE 61-79 - Re: 223 aftermarket parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tires
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - 400 Camshaft
FTE 61-79 - Re:Killer 400
FTE 61-79 - '62 Ford F100 Stepside Questions
FTE 61-79 - Speakers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: speedogear replacement?
Re: FTE 61-79 - All Ford Picnic 9/6 - Graham, WA
FTE 61-79 - 223 six banger stuff

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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 08:40:10 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Valve Adjustment

> Lots of people think you can adjust the FE valves, but if you've got a stock
> set, the only way is to shim the rocker shaft posts ... I thinks someone
> mentioned doing this, but I wouldn't really advise it for a daily driver
> unless you were having some major problems (like piston/lifter interference)
> ... when you did the rebuild did you put in an aftermarket cam ? I can't
> remember if you said you did or not ... if so, and used stock lifters and
> such this could be causing it .... or if the cam wasn't broken in properly,
> maybe there are some issues with that ... at any rate I'd keep looking if it
> was really that loud ... is it all the time, or just at higher revvs ?

The way to adjust FE valves can be found in an article on the FTE site.
Just go to the tech articles and you'll find it. The short of it is
that you use longer pushrods. You don't have to shim anything.
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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 09:20:18 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tires

> Wow,those 33's are big! I thought my 31's took a lot to move, I bet those
> 33's take forever to get rollin, though the FE will help with that a lot ;

I've got a set of RV-style 33's that only measure 31.50 inches tall.
I'm thinking about going taller to counter those 4.56's. How tall are
those 33's really? I'm almost thinking of going to a 35 so I can get a
real 33 inches of height. I likely will need to gear up anyway to at
least 4.10's even with a real 33 to keep up with that St. Louis
traffic.
How tall are your 31's?
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:01:26 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Overdrive Questions

Ok, Ive been thinking lately that I need an overdrive in my '79 Bronco. It's
got a 400, C6, NP205, 3.5 Gears and open diffs. Cruising down the freeway at
the 70-75 mph speed limit Im turning over 3000 rpm. at 55 it'll turn about
2200.

Now Ive seen units from an outfit called gear vendors. It looks nice and
small and will allow me to split all the gears. However the $2500 plus
installation price tag is a bit steep.

My second Idea formed after some comments here in the group. What is the
possibility of replacing my C6 with an AOD? As I understand it, it is not
electronically controlled, used in trucks & vans up through 92. My question
here is did they ever have one mated to a big block, and a 4wd? This would
seem to be the most economical option is everything will mate up.

George
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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 08:30:44 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 223 aftermarket parts

Greg Schnakenberg wrote:

>
> ugly '61 ex airforce steppie
>

Watch what you say about Flair sides buster..... ;)

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4
43 GPW


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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:06:16 -0700
From: "Christeen Bradley"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 223 aftermarket parts

You might want to check out this site:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.vintagespeed.com/

They have lots of speed parts for 50's &60's motors

Good Luck
Scott
1966 F-100 Shortbox 351C

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:05:48 -0800
From: "Erik Marquez"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tires

>> Wow,those 33's are big! I thought my 31's took a lot to move, I bet
those
>> 33's take forever to get rollin, though the FE will help with that a lot
;
>
>I've got a set of RV-style 33's that only measure 31.50 inches tall.
>I'm thinking about going taller to counter those 4.56's. How tall are
>those 33's really? I'm almost thinking of going to a 35 so I can get a
>real 33 inches of height. I likely will need to gear up anyway to at
>least 4.10's even with a real 33 to keep up with that St. Louis
>traffic.
>How tall are your 31's?

Just for GP I thought make it known.. BFG AT's in 35x12.50x15 are 34.5 in
reality. If this helps great, if not, well put in the back where any
respectable motor head has a ton of useless knowledge :-)

Erik Marquez
bronco78 mosquitonet.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mosquitonet.com/~bronco78
Home of the BB decal



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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:31:13 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - 400 Camshaft

Ok the Samuels Special has been added to the list:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.pacifier.com/~bbeyer/Cam_Comp.htm

How do you think this cam would fare on the sniffer test? This thing is
still a slave to the smog nazis at least for the next 5 years. I gotta admit
I like the idea of a custom camshaft, I don't think it costs all that much
more than a stock one since this isn't a SBC. Any preference on who does it?
I'm sorta leaning towards Crane since I'm going to be using their adj.
rocker conversion kit.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Chris Samuel
To: A Perf-List
Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 8:07 AM
Subject: FTE Perf - 400 Camshaft



>I should note that you are not limited to the choices in the cam books as
>most will custom grind anything you want. So I might choose the Crane cam
>duration with the Comp Cam Intake Lift, SVO exhaust Lift, on a 109° Lobe
>Center.



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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:30:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Killer 400

Chris,

I am going with a Crane HMV 278-2 cam in my 400. It is
a dual pattern cam with slightly more lift and
duration than the H 272-2 that you mentioned. My 400
will have 351C-4V heads, also flattop pistons (about
10:1 with those heads), balanced, fluid damper, roller
rockers, Edlebrock Performer(351C), 750 CFM Carter,
headers, high stall torque converter, C6 w/shift kit.
However my project is a '53 F100 street rod. I want to
thumb my nose at chebby powered fords. My current rear
is Ford 9", 3.0:1, but that may change with
experience. The tranny is done, the engine balance is
done, assembly next week.

I still have some problems to work out with the
distributor, since the Weiand adapter plates raise the
intake manifold to interfere with a Ford Dist. I could
use a Mallory, but I would rather use a (modified)
Duraspark II. My question for the group is what would
I ask for at the parts store to get a Duraspark Dist.
for a 400 motor.


Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V(almost)

>OK now it's time for something I know everyone has
>been waiting
>for...the
>update on the "Killer 400" project. OK...so only a
>few deluded M block
>devotees have been waiting for it but here it is
>anyway. The block is
>in the
>shop hot tanked, bored to .020 over with new freeze
>plugs, cam bearings
>and
>sporting a sexy, new, corporate blue paint job. The
>flat top, 9:1
>pistons
>are on order from somewhere in the midwest >or
"flyover country" as us
>coast
>dwellers call it (just kidding, a little humor there,
>I lived in
>Michigan
>for 3 years). As soon as they arrive I'm taking the
>crank, rods,
>pistons,
>flexplate & har. bal. in for balancing. The 2V
>Cleveland heads are bead
>blasted and sitting in on my workbench waiting for
>some loving caresses
>from
>the die grinder, nothing too exotic just a little
>cleanup, smoothing &
>polishing. Other ingredients for the recipe are an
>Edelbrock 4V
>manifold and
>650 cfm 4V carb. Headers will come later.

Now it's time to get down to the nitty gritty. I put
together a
spreadsheet
with my cam choices on it and now I'd like some input.
I hope that this
comes thorough legibly on most mail readers.

Just a reminder this is going into a 79 F250 4X4 with
3.54 gears, 33
inch
tires and a C6. It's a low mileage semi daily driver
that gets to go
out and
play in the mountains with the other 4 wheelers
several times per year
right
now, hopefully more in the near future. And yes, I do
want to be able
to
thumb my nose at most big block guys.



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Do You Yahoo!?
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:35:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vince Strazzabosco
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '62 Ford F100 Stepside Questions

Hi Guys and Gals,

I've decided to keep this '62 F100 I got for $66.00. No good offers
came my way from the SF Bay area, ao...

But now I have questions......

Is there a website with technical specs and info on it?

I'm wondering what is the proper tire size, the engine size (it's a
six) and a few other things, like the rear end that is in the truck
seems to be the wrong one; the driveshaft doesn't go all the way into
the trans...a few inches too short.

Any info is certainly appreciated!

Thanks!

vince
Pacifica, CA
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:25:31 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Speakers

OK no more speaker questions, I promise! LOL Well, the door speakers are in
and they make my not so good behind the seat speakers sound a lot better, so
now I can bump my country music hehehe thanks for all the suggestions y'all!
Muchas gracias~!

*~*~Lisa Envy~*~*
*~*~SIlly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!!~*~* Oh on a sidenote my teacher has
the same license plate frame as me now and I am getting yet another
decal on my truck! This is the last one I swear!
before? LOL> It says "She who dies with the most cowboys wins!" YEE-HAW~!
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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:01:35 -0700
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: speedogear replacement?

Thank you for the advise on the speedo gear, I'll give them a call, also
I did check inside my tranny with a flashlight and yeap.. the teeth are
straight, maybe the previous owner changed it.
I'll let you know
Mike
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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:07:44 -0700
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - All Ford Picnic 9/6 - Graham, WA

Tim: I'm going to a car show at Black Diamond tomorrow, I just got back
from North Dakota, Paul, Ron, Lee and I picked up a 56' Ford with 33K
original, he bought it sight unseen over the internet.
Mike in Burien
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:02:31 +0300
From: "Greg Schnakenberg"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 223 six banger stuff

>I'v just picked up a tight '61 stepside. I came with a fresh 223 in it that
>i dont have the heart to swap.
>does anybody know if there are any aftermarket parts ava. for that engine.
>(multiple carb. intakes, headers, camshafts, etc...)? will appricate any
>info.
>
>ugly '61 ex airforce steppie
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>Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:28:35 -0500
>From: "Jay Fleming"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder headers on E-bay
>
>I know there are a bunch of 6 cyl. buffs on the list. There's a set of
>Hooker Competition headers on E-bay now. The URL is (without
>the wrap):
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-
>cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=157729523
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Hey, that was a great try, I was tempted to swap a 300 for what i'v already
got! but what I've got is a 223, which is in a totally different family
from the 170, 200, 250 AND the 240, 300. this motor was in production in one....

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