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In this issue:

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FTE 61-79 - Crankshaft beating
FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
FTE 61-79 - TURN SIGNAL FLASHER(S)?
Re: FTE 61-79 - TURN SIGNAL FLASHER(S)?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
Re: FTE 61-79 - TURN SIGNAL FLASHER(S)?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
FTE 61-79 - Re: EGR
FTE 61-79 - Cylinder Hone
FTE 61-79 - Shock Tower
FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine
Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine
Re: FTE 61-79 - logos and t shirts
FTE 61-79 - FOR SALE: MSD 6-BTM
Re: FTE 61-79 - logos and t shirts
FTE 61-79 - Swamp Buggy races info needed
Re: FTE 61-79 - FOR SALE: MSD 6-BTM
FTE 61-79 - Hooker Headers

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:17:03 -0400
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: [none]

I have a like new 1978 Ford F150 pickup. The engine is a 300 cu in with a 4
speed transmission. I want to rebuild the engine to make it really strong
and run good.

My question is:
Where do I get HP intake manifolds/carbs?
Exhaust Headers?
Camshafts and components?
Articles on the best combination of parts for this engine.
All help/suggestions/comments will be appreciated.

Is the 4bbl carb/header route worth the time and money? Can you keep the
headers from leaking and burning gaskets?

Gerald Ash

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:29:39 -0500
From: JOHN E DOLSON
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Crankshaft beating

John D. writes: >>I had to remove the crank from the locked motor before
I
could remove the
connecting rods ( I'm also using them), to do this I removed all the main
caps, installed the balancer and gave it a couple of good whacks with a
20# sledge, until the crank was far enough out of the block to get to all
the connecting rod nuts, macine shop checked crank, still straight and
true, runs great.

Y O LIST FOLK!!!! I certainly don't recommend this procedure. You
might get
by doing it once in a while, but crankshafts are extremely hard(brittle)
and
shocks are certainly not recommended. They will crack and only
magnifluxing
will locate the crack sometimes. Not a good idea in my book.... All
JMHO.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


So, Azie how do you recomend disassembling an engine that has the pistons
rusted into the bores?
I also used a air chisel to chip away the pistons so I coud remove the
connecting rods was this wrong in your HO?
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Yes, the procedure was risky, but
when the engine's condition does not allow for proper disassembly, your
options are limited. If I knew of a better way, I certanly would've used
it.

John Dolson
Jefferson City, MO

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes

Wrong!

The early Clevlands have the small bolt pattern.

>The Ford 269, 289, 302, 351W all have a small bolt
>pattern. The 351C,M,
>400M, 429, 460, all have the large bolt pattern.
>However all police cars and ambulances along with
>most wagons gone by used the small frame C6 case
>as it's bullet proof. Get a case and exchange the
>guts.



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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:37:17 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes

Actually ALL Clevelands have the same small block bolt pattern. And there's
still no such thing as a 400M...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Lee
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:31 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes


>Wrong!
>
>The early Clevlands have the small bolt pattern.
>
>>The Ford 269, 289, 302, 351W all have a small bolt
>>pattern. The 351C,M,
>>400M, 429, 460, all have the large bolt pattern.
>>However all police cars and ambulances along with
>>most wagons gone by used the small frame C6 case
>>as it's bullet proof. Get a case and exchange the
>>guts.



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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:39:29 -0400
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes

I stand corrected. The 351/400M with most say is a Cleveland has the large
pattern.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Lee
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 11:31 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes


> Wrong!
>
> The early Clevlands have the small bolt pattern.
>
> >The Ford 269, 289, 302, 351W all have a small bolt
> >pattern. The 351C,M,
> >400M, 429, 460, all have the large bolt pattern.
> >However all police cars and ambulances along with
> >most wagons gone by used the small frame C6 case
> >as it's bullet proof. Get a case and exchange the
> >guts.
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> >
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:40:57 -0400
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes

Don't ever say never. I got a 400M in the garage. Check with your Ford
parts man on 1979 Ford Ranchero or F series.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Beyer
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes


> Actually ALL Clevelands have the same small block bolt pattern. And
there's
> still no such thing as a 400M...
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Lee
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:31 AM
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
>
>
> >Wrong!
> >
> >The early Clevlands have the small bolt pattern.
> >
> >>The Ford 269, 289, 302, 351W all have a small bolt
> >>pattern. The 351C,M,
> >>400M, 429, 460, all have the large bolt pattern.
> >>However all police cars and ambulances along with
> >>most wagons gone by used the small frame C6 case
> >>as it's bullet proof. Get a case and exchange the
> >>guts.
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:50:05 -0400
From: "David J. Turner"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - TURN SIGNAL FLASHER(S)?

My 66 F1 has verrrry slow turn signals. I mean at a stoplight you get
maybe 2 or 3 blinks at most. However the 4 way flasher works fairly quick.
So far my examination has revealed that even when I remove the flasher the
4 ways still operate. What gives? Does this truck have two flashers on it?
Bottom line, why do my turn signals blink so slow, and more importantly,
how do I fix it?

- -Dave Turner
- -66 F1

Dave Turner
1703 Roxbury Drive
Wilson, NC 27893
252 291 1904

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:56:31 EDT
From: Pyrate951 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - TURN SIGNAL FLASHER(S)?

Yes there is two sperate flashers for the turn signals
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:00:36 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes

I have 2 400s neither one has ever been called a 400M by FoMoCo. No need
'cause there's no such thing as a 400C or W. A 400 is a 400...the Ford shop
manual lists the specs for the 351M and 400...not 400M. If a Ford parts man
ever asked me if I was looking for parts for a 400M, I'd say "No it's a
400W, whattya got listed for one of those?" If he started looking in the
book I'd run away as fast as I could but that's just me.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Ash
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes


>Don't ever say never. I got a 400M in the garage. Check with your Ford
>parts man on 1979 Ford Ranchero or F series.



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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:24:47 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - TURN SIGNAL FLASHER(S)?

I'd try the easy stuff first like the flasher. If that doesn't work try
checking the bulbs and then the connections. They way the hardware works is
like this...

The flasher is nothing more than a bimetallic switch with a heater inside.
When you turn on a turn signal, current flows through the flasher to the
selected bulbs & then to ground. This current heats the heater and when it's
hot enough, the bimetallic switch opens, stopping the current and killing the
bulbs. Once it cools off, the switch closes again, current flows and the
bulbs light repeating the sequence.

This is why the turn signals often dont work right without the proper bulbs,
and sometimes flash real fast when you connect another trailer (when using a
standard flasher). The hazard flasher works the same way.

In short what I'm trying to say is that if your flashing slow, your not
drawing enough current to heat the flasher fast enough. Check the
connections, grounds, & make sure you've got the right bulbs. This is if it's
not the flasher itself.

George M


In a message dated 8/21/99 11:54:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DAVEBOY esn.net
writes:


maybe 2 or 3 blinks at most. However the 4 way flasher works fairly quick.
So far my examination has revealed that even when I remove the flasher the
4 ways still operate. What gives? Does this truck have two flashers on it?
Bottom line, why do my turn signals blink so slow, and more importantly,
how do I fix it?
>>
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:29:39 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes

I think what he's referring to is technically correct. The 400 is refereed to
as the 400, not the 400M while the 351 is refereed to with it's suffix letter
of M, C, or W. I think it's just a common thing since the 400 is a cousin of
the 351M and the M just kinda follows along.

My 2 bits worth.

George


n a message dated 8/21/99 11:42:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ga1998 hotmail.com writes:


parts man on 1979 Ford Ranchero or F series.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Beyer
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes


> Actually ALL Clevelands have the same small block bolt pattern. And
there's
> still no such thing as a 400M...
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Lee
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:31 AM
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shift Improvement Kit woes
>
>
> >Wrong!
> >
> >The early Clevlands have the small bolt pattern.
> >
> >>The Ford 269, 289, 302, 351W all have a small bolt
> >>pattern. The 351C,M,
> >>400M, 429, 460, all have the large bolt pattern.
> >>However all police cars and ambulances along with
> >>most wagons gone by used the small frame C6 case
> >>as it's bullet proof. Get a case and exchange the
> >>guts.
>>
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:37:53 PDT
From: "steve potratz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: EGR

Hey Dave R.:
Good thoughts on the EGR, I just didn't have all the pieces together in my
head. The best way to clean an EGR tube is chuck a section of old speedo
cable in your varriable speed drill, bend the tip and auger that carbon out
while sucking it up with a shop vac. You do have to make sure that you get
the valves closed on the correct cylinders that scavenge exhaust gases or
you can push that crap into the cylinder-which isn't good. You also can
pressurize the cylinder with compressed air as a safegard.

Steve
78 f150 sc 4wd
71 f100 swb

family car like a CV, I would trade performance potential for
reliability and stick w/ the stock setup and maintain it properly. If you
want to pursue performance options on a car like that, the late model
Mustang 5.0 guys have a lot of experience w/ that.

BTW: Thanks for the tip:-) My wife's CV has been pinging lately, and I
haven't
been able to track it down. I'll take a look at the EGR passages this
weekend.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)



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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:22:23 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cylinder Hone

I am in need of a recommendation for a good cylinder hone. Can anyone give
me some names and a price range. Better yet does anyone have one lying
around they no longer use? Thanks in advance.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:26:44 -0600
From: "Grady M. Shock"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Shock Tower

Hi all,
My 78 F-150 has the quad shock setup in the front. I am in need of the
drivers side front shock tower apparently the upper track bar bushing had
been missing for a while and effectively ruined the track bar as well as the
hole it mounts through on the bottom side of the shock tower. Any
possibility anyone has one out there? Ford no longer makes them (just my
luck) and my local bone yards have no f-series with the quad setup. I figure
LMC truck has them however they don't seem to want to send me a catalog.
I've requested it twice on their web site 2 months later still nothing. I am
willing to pay whatever is wanted for the part as well as shipping &
handling.

Thanks in advance,
- -Grady
Gardnerville,NV

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:52:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine

Hi gang! Check out the latest issue of Truckin' magazine
(October 99). Gary Pratt, of "Ford Folio" fame, gave us
a nice tip of the hat in his report on the 21st annual
F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. He even
mentioned Don Neighbors and myself by name!

The article is pretty good. There's mention of some of
the new products out there. The whole article makes me
wish I was at the show again.

Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:14:42 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine

Did they get the pic of my "NUKE GM" License plate I had made?????

I wanna make some Generic Motors people angry with that one! hehehhe

Stu
Nuke GM!
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We are officially One and Oh tonight after we beat Peery County
At 08:52 PM 8/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi gang! Check out the latest issue of Truckin' magazine
>(October 99). Gary Pratt, of "Ford Folio" fame, gave us
>a nice tip of the hat in his report on the 21st annual
>F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. He even
>mentioned Don Neighbors and myself by name!
>
>The article is pretty good. There's mention of some of
>the new products out there. The whole article makes me
>wish I was at the show again.
>
>Ken Payne
>Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:00:27 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - logos and t shirts

Hey all
i know that being a FTE and all you kind of want ot show it off so i was
wanting to know does anybody know where i can locate some t shirts that have
to deal with a 66 ford f250 or a FE engine like ford motor sports or
something of that nature. thanks for all the info
Travis
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:54:29 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FOR SALE: MSD 6-BTM

I've got a mildly used MSD 6BTM ignition box to sell. It includes
the box with 3000, 7000, and 8000 RPM rev limit chips, interior ignition
retard knob, Ford wiring harness, and an MSD Blaster 3 coil. It is in
perfect working condition and the instuction manual is included.
Im open to a reasonable offer on the whole package. Be fair with me
and I'll be more than fair with you. Any interested parties, please email
me privately.


Thanks,
Dale Frenz


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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:55:32 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - logos and t shirts

Carolina Classics has one of the few t-shirts I've found with a '
61-' 66 body style truck on it. There's one on the front, over where the
pocket should be. There's a larger one on the back with 2 other years of
trucks. I could tell you what exact year they are if you need to know.
I've found in the year and a half that I've owned my ' 64, hats,
t-shirts, etc. are hard to come by ! I think most manufacturers of such
items have yet to realize the true beauty of these body styles. : )

Carolina Classics
624 Geer St., Dept CCT
-- Durham NC 27701
919-682-4211, FAX 919-682-1286

Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
At 12:00 AM 8/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey all
>i know that being a FTE and all you kind of want ot show it off so i was
>wanting to know does anybody know where i can locate some t shirts that have
>to deal with a 66 ford f250 or a FE engine like ford motor sports or
>something of that nature. thanks for all the info
>Travis
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:04:25 +0800
From: "David and Cherie"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Swamp Buggy races info needed

Can anyone give me any info on the Swamp Buggy races they have down Florida
way.
I know its a bit off topic but I can fix that by asking if any F series
trucks have raced in it.
I am interested in them (swamp buggy races) but being in Western Australia
has its limitations.

On another topic, I can now shift my new old F350 cause I free'd up the
siezed front brake drum. I can now shift it up to the shed to start my
complete rebuild.

Cheers,
Dave,
68 F350
Australia.


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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 03:24:06 EDT
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FOR SALE: MSD 6-BTM

Dale,
Does this fit a 1978 Ford 300 cu in engine?
What kind of money we talking?
Do you take credit cards?
Gerald Ash


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I've got a mildly used MSD 6BTM ignition box to sell. It includes
the box with 3000, 7000, and 8000 RPM rev limit chips, interior ignition
retard knob, Ford wiring harness, and an MSD Blaster 3 coil. It is in
perfect working condition and the instuction manual is included.
Im open to a reasonable offer on the whole package. Be fair with me
and I'll be more than fair with you. Any interested parties, please email
me privately.


Thanks,
Dale Frenz


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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 03:04:43 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hooker Headers

I stumbled upon the old paperwork the came with the Hooker Headers I
installed a few years ago and thought maybe somebody on this list may be
interested.

Part # 6903 for Ford 1/2, 5/8, 3/4, & 1 ton pickups, 2wd -- 352-390 CID....

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