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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Intervention
FTE 61-79 - 429 Mustangs
FTE 61-79 - Vacuam gauge tuning
FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
FTE 61-79 - Re: Pertronix Ignitor
FTE 61-79 - Stop the Mill. 400 pistons 9:1
Re: FTE 61-79 - Stop the Mill. 400 pistons 9:1
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE head rebuild advice link
Re: FTE 61-79 - points/electronic Ignition
Re: FTE 61-79 - points/electronic Ignition
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pertronix Ignitor
Re: FTE 61-79 -Ford Braggin'
FTE 61-79 - RE: Hot Rod 400M article/ Ford Braggin (kinda?)
Re: FTE 61-79 -Ford Braggin'
FTE 61-79 - Points/Electronic Ignition
FTE 61-79 - Carb parts.
FTE 61-79 - Interchange Question
FTE 61-79 - 71 bronco manual steering gearbox
Re: FTE 61-79 -Ford Braggin'
RE: FTE 61-79 - FE head rebuild advice link
RE: FTE 61-79 - 429 Mustangs
RE: FTE 61-79 - 351M
FTE 61-79 - Pilot bearing/throw out bearing
Re: FTE 61-79 - Pilot bearing/throw out bearing
FTE 61-79 - Re: FE head rebuild web link
FTE 61-79 - Re: Flatbeds
FTE 61-79 - Re: passed emissions
FTE 61-79 - 72' f-100 headers
RE: FTE 61-79 - Which engine? ... a 460 in a '77-'79 F-series ?
FTE 61-79 - C6/NP205 removal

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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:58:12 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Intervention

>
> In a message dated 8/13/99 10:00:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> dpearson ctc.edu writes:
>
> > >Mustang and one '62 Falcon...and I'm not counting the seventh Fomoco--a
> '70
> > >Marquis with 426/C6
>
> Looks like it's time for yet another intervention.........

Yep, Marko's putting on the black mask, and waxing up that boat oar.
Somebody wont be sitting down for a while, best watch your step.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:04:20 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 429 Mustangs

>
> As for Mustangs, I didn't think Ford installed big blocks in the Mustang (or
> Cougar) after the 1970 model year. I thought the 429SCJ engine was a Torino (&
> Montego? Cyclone? whatever) only item.


They carried them on through '72 or '73, but they were cut down on power
when CR dropped. The '71-'73 Mustang weighed about as much as a Torino
anyway. They dropped the Drag Pak in '71, but AFAIK the 429 CJ was
available up till '73. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the
impression I get from the articles I've read says that you could order
one, but they didn't make many because of insurance.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:11:18 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vacuam gauge tuning

> Yo Dave:
>
> Where I live, the altitude is only about 5400 ft (not all that high for
> Colorado). On my tired old 351M w/ about 165K miles on it, I'm getting about
> 15" at idle. At 2K rpm unloaded (i.e., revving in the driveway), it still pulls
> about 14". I haven't tried hooking up the vac gauge for driving yet, but I
> understand it can be educational.

Very educatoinal, you can read what your advance curve is really doing,
and how well your engine can take a load. One warning, you get this
degree of measure in your tuning you can get obsessed with getting that
last little HG before it noses down. It really is the best way to tune,
along with using a dwell meter if you have points. It gets you there
for sure.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:41:43 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

Hey Guys, I really like all the 400M performance tips I've been reading here.
Let me tell ya why.

I've got a '79 Bronco & had it since 84. All this time I thought it had the
351M as I never had the codes to decode the engine size. Well, At 170k the #2
intake pushrod decided to bend while cruising down I-95 to Miami which also
ejected the lifter causing a massive oil pressure loss. Well I found a good
deal on a freshly rebuilt (stock) engine & tranny from a '78 Extended cab. At
the same time, I installed a Weiland Action Plus manifold, Holley 600, &
FlowTech Headers with new dual exhausts. She's running OK, but I've still got
some carb jetting to do and am hopping it'll do even better. I plan to
rebuild the original set to my likes and reinstall them. As for the rest of
the truck, it's pretty plain really. It's got 3.5:1 gears in the axles and
rolling on BGF 31x10.50x15's. Cruising down the highway at 55 gives me 2500
RPM and at 70 almost 3000 RPM.

Here's what I have in mind and let yall see if it makes sense and what yall
think it'll do. I'm after Torque (with a peak around 3000-3500 rpm) and
improved gas mileage (something over the 8-10 MPG she's always averaged). I
want a good pulling daily driver that runs on regular (87 Octane) gas.

I'd like to hear what has worked well for yall! Of course, I do plan to keep
the new manifold and carb. I might change the headers, as I'm not real crazy
how these FlowTech headers fit on the driver's side.

1. I'm planning on keeping the block as stock as possible. I would like to
run about 9:1 compression pistons & a high volume oil pump. I've read the
info about running Cleveland pistons in the 400M, but would rather stick with
one for a 400M if at all possible. I've also read about some oil restricters
that increase the oil flow to the main bearings. Anybody ever tried these and
are they any good? I'm curious.
2. I'm looking at installing replacement timing gears vs the factory style or
double roller chain. I've seen em in Summitt catalogue and a few others. The
400 seem to stretch the chains some and I am getting somewhat tired of
replacing it.
3. My camshaft of choice is a strong RV model. My last 400 had one by Blue
Racer with .490 Lift and ~280 duration (if memory serves me right) and
appropriate valve springs. I really liked the way the old engine ran with
this given the stock everything else of it and I believe that's why my new
one feels anemic.
4. A set of roller rockers, Brand & exact style still undetermined though.
5. New pushrods, something that wont bend and maybe some guide plates as
additional insurance.
6. I might do some mild port work on the heads in addition to the standard
reworking.
7. A strong high output coil, Accell solid core wires, and Splitfire plugs. I
plan on keeping the stock Duraspark ignition system as it's been working well
all these years.

As for the tranny, I want to rebuild it for heavy-duty use with shift kit and
cooler. Not much else to say about it except I also want to keep the stock
converter.

I've also heard about the Hot Rod article about building these engines. Does
anybody have a copy? I'd be interested in reading it.

George

'79 Bronco, 400M w C6
'91 Taurus, 3.0L & AXOD
'92 E150 Conversion Van, 5.0L & AOD
400M & C6 (Currently Homeless but I've got a plan)








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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:47:13 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pertronix Ignitor

Ted Wnorowski At 08:09 AM 8/13/99 -0500, wrote:
>Has anyone used the Pertronix Ignitor in their trucks? I have been
>thinking of using it in my '66 352.
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pertronix.com/

I run the Ignitor in my '61 Futura on a 170 engine. I have no copmplaints
and it was an easy install. [FTE content:] I'm sure it will work well with
Ford's other fine engines.

I have heard of problems, though, from owners on a Falcon mailing list.
Some have reported that the unit just unexpectedly failed on them. Some
people carry an extra set of points and condensor just in case, but I'm not
worried about it. In the instances that they have failed, apparently
Pertronix has been very quick to supply a new one.

I paid about $70 for mine, a little higher than I would have liked. This is
because Pertronix customer service didn't know which model would work with
the 170 engine! I had to order through a Falcon vendor and the price was
higher.

- -don

- --
Don in Philadelphia
Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon
Falconaut: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fedora.net/falconaut | 61 Falcon Futura
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:45:03 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Stop the Mill. 400 pistons 9:1

Jeeez..... you guys are just mill happy. I can tell ya' where to get
replacement pistons for a 400 that are flat tops with 9:1 compression right
now. Im not talking about any fancy head shaving or anything. Just stick
'em in your motor and go. If anybody is interested I can dig out the
information. I've got the company catalog. One catch is you have to get 'em
thru a supply house and not factory direct. There's a engine rebuilder
supply here that I can get these pistons over the counter.

Dale


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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:05:15 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Stop the Mill. 400 pistons 9:1

Well what the heck are you waiting for?! If it's true then you've found the
holy grail of M blocks. C'mon man, spill!

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dale Frenz
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 7:38 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Stop the Mill. 400 pistons 9:1


>Jeeez..... you guys are just mill happy. I can tell ya' where to get
>replacement pistons for a 400 that are flat tops with 9:1 compression right
>now. Im not talking about any fancy head shaving or anything. Just stick
>'em in your motor and go. If anybody is interested I can dig out the
>information. I've got the company catalog. One catch is you have to get 'em
>thru a supply house and not factory direct. There's a engine rebuilder
>supply here that I can get these pistons over the counter.
>
>Dale



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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:06:07 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE head rebuild advice link

Yep worked fine for me on MSIE 4.0 too.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Danger
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE head rebuild advice link


>> > Folks,
>> > Here's a link to FE head rebuild advice:
>> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aera.org/EngineTech/edge1197/HeadMaster.htm
>> > Anybody got any comments on EngineTech Inc. parts?
>> > Thanks,
>>
>> Brett, check that link again, I think somethin's missin .. at least I
>> couldn't get to it (tried spelling area instead of aera and still
couldn't
>> get it, and html and that didn't work either, so must've missed
something)
>>
>..........
>
> The link worked fine for me, but I'm using Microsoft's Internet
Explorer
>5.0 (downloaded for free).



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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:17:19 -0500
From: "John R. Austin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - points/electronic Ignition

I ordered one this morning also. Can hardly wait.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Corey Johnson
To:
Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - points/electronic Ignition


> Thanks for the advice.... I ordered one this morning for 59.99 from that
site
> you sent. About how long did it take to receive, if you can recall?
>
> Also, has anyone ever converted/replaced their 'incab' fuel tank to an
> under-bed style on a '66 F-100 or similar? I was wondering if I could
maybe get
> one from salvage yard that would 'easily' install on my truck....
>
> Ted Wnorowski wrote:
> > I put one on my 352 and couldn't be happier with it. As far as
> > price goes, try these people: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.naparts.com/ . I think I
paid $59
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:39:22 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - points/electronic Ignition

In a message dated 8/14/99 8:18:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, oslc itexas.net
writes:

>

Wow, you all seem to really like what your reading. Id be interested in if
there are any performance gains. Im in the process of helping my brother
(Spyder2 on the 80-96 list, as well as the perf and ranger list) build his 84
f-150. It has the good ole 300 six, and I tell ya, It ran great. But he got
the bug for more power, so we decided to tear into it. Weve bored it .030,
milled the head .030, got these killer pistons that have a lil swirl in the
top to help mix the fuel and air, a Clifford 4bbl intake, dual header, and
the stage 1 cam. Its in the process of going together as we speak. Our
Primary concern is going to be ignition. The 84 model has that damn ignition
that requires a computer to function right, and with all the mods were doing,
it wont be 100%. Were thinking of gettin a dist from a mid 70's and using it
in conjunction with an MSD. But I was just thinkin, why not go with one from
the early 70s and just get a pertronics. Sounds like it work pretty good,
and cheaper than his newest idea of getting an MSD and a Mallory distributor.
This boy has all these grand ideas (worse than me) but changes from one to
the other EVERY DAY! SO if yall could help me out, Id appreciate it. And if
Iv lost the point of this post due to my incessant rambling, I'll say it
again :). Im wonderin if the pertronics will perform better than say, a
stock Duraspark unit. Any thing over that would be a plus. Thanks everyone.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:55:17 EDT
From: Pyrate951 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pertronix Ignitor

I have a 68 F-250 with a 390 and have them in for over a year now with out a
problem
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:58:51 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -Ford Braggin'

In a message dated 08/13/1999 1:58:32 PM !!!First Boot!!!, dpearson ctc.edu
writes:


>Driveway >>

When I give directtions to my house I just say "Its on the right, you'll see
my big ugly baby in the driveway!" HeHe but I do say it with pride in my
voice so it's all good LOL

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~SIlly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!!~*~*
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:04:30 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Hot Rod 400M article/ Ford Braggin (kinda?)

Does anyone have a copy of the article in question (9/98 issue) and a
scanner? I didn't have the Ford when it was written, or I would have
definitely bought it, but I didn't know, and I usually get Car Craft rather
than Hot Rod.

I put a 318 in my D*dge, and can now pull the Ford off the road for about a
month while I do some needed repairs: Pull heads for valve job, clutch,
maybe a cam while I'm in there, and some floor boards, and maybe I'll stick
on my 160 amp alternator. Then I can sell the Dodge and stick with the
Ford.

BTW, when I look out my window and look at cars I see:

3 Fords: My truck, a 74-T-bird (429), and a 84 Bronco II
4 Jeeps: 1 running 82 Cherokee, 1 in need of an axle CJ-7, parts CJ-7,
parts Cherokee
2 Dodges, 1 4x4 Truck and 1 63 Monaco
2 Nissans
1 62 Buick
1 61 Cadillac
1 Audi
No Chebbies though.

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
IsuzuG prodigy.net

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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Daniel DiMartino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -Ford Braggin'

dennis:

do your neighbors speek to you with all those cars in your
yard?? how many are on blocks and which ones actually run??

===
Daniel DiMartino

1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:46:39 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Points/Electronic Ignition

Corey,
There was a lot of discussion on the list about 6 months ago about
Pertronix ignitions. I changed my 66 352 over and it works great. You get
all eight cylinders firing closer to the exact time they are supposed to.
Kiss point gap and that frustration goodbye. Engine runs smoother it
forgives worn distributer bushings that may make the ole 352 complain. if
you want more info, get back to me. I think I've seen then for about $65
somewhere. Maybe someone can tell us where? Except for an extra wire,
they keep the distributor looking original. If you want to go first class,
Mallory makes a distrubutor for FE's that quality. It isn't original
looking; but your friends will be impressed. See the Summit catalogue.

Tim 66F100 352 SWB Custom Cab w/O.D. & P/S
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:24:33 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carb parts.

Hello everyone,

This letter is for my dad. We are currently rebuilding the 2v carb on
our F-600 and need a part that isnt part of the kit. Its the two nylon
pieces, and the spring, that are on the rod that actuates the choke. This is
a manual choke carb. These pieces have melted due to constant backfiring
when cold, thanks largely to a bad power valve. If anyone out there has
these pieces, and is willing to part with them for a reasonable price, lemme
know. Its no rush, we have the parts to fix it, but we like to have extra
stuff, in case this happens again. And it will, cuz its a work truck, and
some people would rather not use the choke when the old girl is warming up.
Thanks again folks. Have a good one.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:43:33 -0500
From: "Brian Forbes"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interchange Question

I'm about to install power steering in my 66, after much stalling and bill
paying. My question is would a 74 pwr strng gear box drop into my 66?
Advance Auto can order a 66 box for $299, but has a 74 in stock for $149.
Is there a difference in the two boxes? Should I go ahead and for over the
299 and wait for the 66 box to come in?

Brian
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:26:29 -0700
From: "Kory A. Kneeland"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 bronco manual steering gearbox

Hey everyone,
What a bummer. I just went out into my garage and found a few drips of
gear oil on the floor under my manual steering gearbox. Upon further
investigation I found that gear oil was all over the underside of the gear
box. No loose nuts or leaks from the topside, it's all on the underneath.
Do I need a new gearbox? That's my first impression, but I thought I would
ask you all first. Also, if I need one, does anyone know if my Bronco will
use the same one as the F series from the same years? Thanks again.

Deputy
KAKneeland home.com
'71 Bronco w/302
Salem, OR

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:30:09 +0800
From: "David and Cherie"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -Ford Braggin'

......
>
>I'm so lucky. When I look outside, I see SIX Fords--2 '62 pickups



Well I'm so lucky I can look out to see EIGHT Fords,
1 76 Escort
1 75 Cortina
1 78 Transit Van
1 81 351 4 Speed Falcon
1 74 XB Falcon Hardtop
1 73 XA Fairmont Hardtop
1 73 XA GT Falcon Hardtop
and best of all 1 F350 Tray Back 68.

and I love em all,
Cheers, Dave from
Down Under,
Australia.


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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:19:46 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FE head rebuild advice link

> Yep worked fine for me on MSIE 4.0 too.
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
Yeah half the net was unreachable from here, likely lost part of our
connection (a hub from our ISP), got it now...someday I'll read it.... :)

Thanks Bill.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:29:54 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 429 Mustangs

> > As for Mustangs, I didn't think Ford installed big blocks in
> the Mustang (or
> > Cougar) after the 1970 model year. I thought the 429SCJ
> engine was a Torino (&
> > Montego? Cyclone? whatever) only item.
>
>
> They carried them on through '72 or '73, but they were cut down on power
> when CR dropped.

This is not quite true, the Mustang only carried the 429 for 71 (aside from
the Boss of 2years prior) ... after that they were dropped for insurance
reasons. You couldn't order one from Ford even, the top dog became the
351CJ in 72. Part of the drop in power was due to the change in the way hp
was measured, from gross hp to net hp. So when people say cars just don't
make the HP like they used to, they're just not comparing the right numbers,
and the advertised ones are always wrong anyway ... whether underrated to
please insurers or over rated to hype the performance crowd, its never a
"real" number, just something that looks good on paper to someone ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:31:17 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 351M

> > I'm curious when you say "mild performance cam" what do you
> > mean ? Like an RV cam? A performer cam ?
>
> I'm thinking of using the Edelbrock Performer Intake/cam combo,
> hope that
> clears it up,
>
Yup, that's pretty specific :) I'm not sure how most motors react to that,
it almost seems like a "generic" solution to hp. Not my favorite approach,
but much less risky (hence the reason I recommended it to a friend), and
parts are readily available too, no time wasted hunting down some rare
intake or linkage to make it work ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:50:13 EDT
From: JefriHansn aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pilot bearing/throw out bearing

This on my 79 F-150 4WD with 69 429cu/NP 435 with Lakewood bellhousing.
Okay - I got the new new pilot bushing in, made the block - bellhousing
spacer plate out of 16ga stainless, and put her all back together. Somehow
while putting it all together the first time - the old new pilot bushing -
the one I played heck with driving in - had pulled out and got all cockeyed
going back in while I was bolting up the transmission. THAT's why the top
didn't want to pull up. NOW I have this annoying click click click which
gets louder with rpms, goes completely away with pressing on the clutch
pedal. I've adjusted and adjusted - the tighter I adjust - the less the
clicking is - but I've tightened it so much now that it slips in 4th. With
it loose - the clicking there - just pressing on the clutch pedal an inch or
two and the clicking goes away.
Wife's had it. Fresh Motor, fresh transmission, fresh rear with 4:10's
and a detroit. Got all the parts to do the front. New 40 gal. gas tank, new
radiator, new brakes, new drive shaft - hell - new truck except the paint.
Any serious offers?
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:59:58 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pilot bearing/throw out bearing

NOW I have this annoying click click click which
> gets louder with rpms, goes completely away with pressing on the clutch
> pedal. I've adjusted and adjusted - the tighter I adjust - the less the
> clicking is - but I've tightened it so much now that it slips in 4th. With
> it loose - the clicking there - just pressing on the clutch pedal an inch or
> two and the clicking goes away.

I had this problem before. Turned out to be the release bearing. I
replaced it and the noise went away.
Jason
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:50:08 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FE head rebuild web link

Folks,
I tried a windows copy-and-paste right from this message into Netscape
and it came right up. Are you still having problems? I wonder if their
web site was down?.....
Brett
Super75cab
> > Folks,
> > Here's a link to FE head rebuild advice:
> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aera.org/EngineTech/edge1197/HeadMaster.htm
> > Anybody got any comments on EngineTech Inc. parts?
> > Thanks,
>
> Brett, check that link again, I think somethin's missin .. at least I
> couldn't get to it (tried spelling area instead of aera and still
couldn't
> get it, and html and that didn't work either, so must've missed
something)
>
> Just my $.02
> wish

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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:33:58 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Flatbeds

Ted,
I took a good look at an aluminum flatbed that I really liked. The floor
was made of 2x4 aluminum box extrusions sitting crossways (90 degrees
from the truck frame) bearing on spacers on top of each frame rail. The
floor was welded to an aluminum box tube perimeter with stake pockets.
Super simple design. Easy to build. Cresco in Iowa also makes one but I
don't know where you'd get a deal.
Brett
Super75cab
> On the subject of making my own. Does anyone know where to go for
>plans, drawings, advice, etc. ? As far as buying a pre-built, it would
be
>worth the extra money ( as long as it weren't too much, chirp , chirp)
to
>alleviate the headaches of fabbing one myself.
> TIA for any help or answers,
> Ted Wnorowski


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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 23:39:30 -0400
From: "Sean R. Kerns"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: passed emissions

You and me both, Azie. I thought I was really screwed for a little while
there.

Sean

> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:33:27 -0400
> From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - passed emissions
>
> Sean writes: >> So I spent some money, and got what I really wanted, which
> is to have my baby back on the road and legal.
>
> Sorry about bringing it up again, but I'm very proud you got it back on the
> road.
>
> Azie
> Ardmore, Al.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:36:11 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 72' f-100 headers

Forwarded ford: mikepacheco uswest.net

>Well my engine (351C) is suppose to be done on Monday !! Next weekend
>I'll put it in, any suggestions where I can purchase some Ceramic Coated
>Headers? Or headers period that will fit.
>Jeg doesn't have a clue since the 351 was never offered in a truck and
>mustang headers won't work.
>H*LP
>
>Mike in Burien

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:47:49 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Which engine? ... a 460 in a '77-'79 F-series ?

Wish said:
> A 460 is not stock in a 4x4 until sometime after
> 78 (some will argue they came out in 79,
> others say 80, so go fig), so no matter what
> you do, some changes will be required to
> put a 460 into one of these.

then later, Dave said:
> I think the '77-'79 4x2 and 4x4 frames are different,

If the Bronco of the same year is indicative of the 4x4 F-series
frame style (and I think it is), yes they are quite different.
(I have a '79 Bronco 4x4 in my garage, and a '76 F250 4x2 in my
yard to look at for this one :-) Frames for the '73-'79 F series are
pretty much the same.)

> but I don't know if the 4x2 engine mounts will work in the 4x4 frame.

They will not, but if you have the motor mounts for a *truck* engine
of the type you want to put in, ANYTHING will fit into a '77-'79 4x4
(definitely with the Bronco, and probably F-series, too) setup, since
the frame mounts in the 4x4 (Bronco at least) do not have any
crossmember that goes under the engine itself, but instead, the
crossmember is displaced so that it is on the frame under the
crankshaft pulley. You can put engines from passenger cars,
trucks, whatever in there. There is enough underhood space for
just about anything. The frame mounts have to be lined up so that
the attaching bolts are in the forward set of holes if you want a I6-300
in it, and in the rear holes for a V8.



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