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61-79-list-digest Saturday, August 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 276



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say
FTE 61-79 - Re: Wolverine Cams
FTE 61-79 - 67-72 owners
FTE 61-79 - Low power 302's
Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say
Re: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny.
FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion
FTE 61-79 - RE: Low power 302's
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion
Re: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny.
FTE 61-79 - more brake problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - more brake problems
RE: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion
FTE 61-79 - gas mileage
FTE 61-79 - Re: gas mileage
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lightning (was Old Beasts/Excursion)
FTE 61-79 - Re: Update on my 1966 F-250 240 CID
FTE 61-79 - 429/460 bellhousing
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED
Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Truck Parts
FTE 61-79 - 66 VIN Numbers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Low power 302's
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 VIN Numbers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power
FTE 61-79 - Electrical help, or the incredible popping fuse
Re: FTE 61-79 - Electrical help, or the incredible popping fuse
Re: FTE 61-79 - Safety

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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 06:11:38 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say

> Hey all
> well you guys hae to come through with this one. on my 66 ford 352 i cant get
> it started. all it does is crank acts like there is fire. i replaced the
> coil there is a new rotor and cap and plug wires and plugs and new points and
> condensor. the rotor is spinning and i dont know what to do i am really
> stuck im at my wits end and i dont want to sell it because im gettign
> threats from the parents. thanks for any info

Check the compression on each cylinder to be sure you have any ring seal
left. If it's OK then move on to the next step.

First, get a spark tester, and check to see if you do indeed have strong
blue spark. Then pull the valve cover and turn the engine by hand and
watch the valves on number one open and close. As the intake valve
closes(it will be the 2nd valve from the front on the passenger side)
the rotor should be pointing at # 1 on the cap. This will tell you if
you have strong blue spark at the right time. If it jumps time it will
usually backfire, but you should check it anyway. Now, check the point
dwell, by hooking up a dwell meter and cranking it over, match it to
your specs in the manual. If it goes all out of the set range high and
low, your distributor is worn out. It should still run, but it will run
crappy.

If you have compression and spark it has to be fuel. Put a pressure
tester on the fuel line and check it's output. 4-7 lbs is about right.
If the fuel pressure is low or comes up and immediately drops when you
stop cranking, check your oil for gas contamination. The fuel pump
diaphram could be seeping.

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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 06:17:02 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Wolverine Cams

>
> William,
> Thanks for the tip. I saw that Wolverine/Blue Racer was purchased by
> Crane Cams. How does that fit into the Mellings picture? Or are they
> all now owned by some big conglomerate like Federal Mogul or Allied
> Signal?
> Brett
> Super75Cab
> >Wolverine cams are made by Melling. You can get the same cam in many
> cases
> >cheaper if you buy the Melling. (same part #)

It's possible that Melling may have sold the cam division to Crane.
We'll know if all the sudden Melling discontinues their cam line. I'll
keep you posted.
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:17:57 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 67-72 owners

Group,

I just got back to working on my web page and put a guestbook online and
would like all 67-72 owners to sign it, or anybody can sign it take a
look at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://web.p3.net/~shoman
the 67-72 F-series Homepage
thanks
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:12:43 -0400
From: "Marvin Meyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Low power 302's

I've got a 302 of 78 vintage in my 150 super cab. Old 351 heads of 1970 and
a small motorsport cam. Single-plane intake and a Holley 600 top speed is
120 + MPH with 350,s out back and 21 Canadian Miles per gallon. Gutless off
the line but WOW I'll never forget the look on the Ferrari's face when I
passed him North of Barrie on the HWY 401!! That's a life time dream
accomplished in 2 seconds..
Marvin

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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:25:27 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say

>well today i taked to a mechanic and he sadi to check my oints because ewhen
>you need power to like climb a hill the vaum advance will mone and nock the
>points out of place. does anyone had this happen to them where that happened

The vacuum should move, but not the points, it should just rotate them in
an arc that actually causes them to advance or retard (depending if its
pulling or not) the timing ... the gap itself shouldn't move, though I
wouldn't be surprised to find it moves a little if you were to actually
test it ... at any rate it shouldn't be the cause of a truck not starting,
it should start and exhibit some odd tendancies, like not wanting to rev up
or actually move the truck.

You should be sure you have some nice new ones in there though, just to be
sure you don't have a glaze on the old ones to keep it from firing... of
course check the fire first to see if it is or not ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:27:04 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny.

>Have I figured this out right ???
>
>When I turn one rear wheel 4 times, the pinion turns 7 turns. And the other
>wheel is on the ground not turning at all.
>
>I have tried to calculate the ratio, and has got 3.5 : 1 as answer. Does
>this sound right or wrong ?
>
You did the math and got 1.75, but since the other wheel wasn't moving, the
drive shaft was turning twice as fast as it would've normally been (funny
thing about open rear ends, they're predictable :) so 7/2=3.5 sounds
good to me :)

>Then, the tranny is a Ford transmission of some kind.
>
well that's about all I could tell you :) sorry.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:30:26 -0500
From: "Don Yerhot"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts

I heard an interesting tidbit when Ford was about to release the Excursion
(I believe that was the name), it's newest SUV based on a one ton truck
frame, with a projected price tag of $50k. (That's at least 5-10 nice older
trucks for me!!)Ford would make a $25k profit an each vehicle sold. I guess
they were going to try to compete against the S*****bans. I may be loyal to
Ford, but I'm not about to go in debt and let Ford take me to the cleaners.
Anyway, public outcry on these huge gas guzzling (6-8mpg) glorified yuppie
station wagons was so high that as the last I heard they were not going to
be produced.

DonY
65F250-351W
74F100-351W

"Pessimism is simply optimism with all the facts"




As would be the other two or three spare 66's you could build with that kind
of dough.

Stock Man>>

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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:35:43 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion

Don,
the Excursion(house on wheels) is a Go from Ford, My neighbor works
for a local Ford dealer in the service dept. and they just went to school to
learn
about these Beasts..And also the kick A** Lightning!!!!There only question was
how does ford plan on keeping the rear wheels planted on the Lightning :):)
Its a truck bed with no weight...
Joe

Don Yerhot wrote:

> I heard an interesting tidbit when Ford was about to release the Excursion
> (I believe that was the name), it's newest SUV based on a one ton truck
> frame, with a projected price tag of $50k. (That's at least 5-10 nice older
> trucks for me!!)Ford would make a $25k profit an each vehicle sold. I guess
> they were going to try to compete against the S*****bans. I may be loyal to
> Ford, but I'm not about to go in debt and let Ford take me to the cleaners.
> Anyway, public outcry on these huge gas guzzling (6-8mpg) glorified yuppie
> station wagons was so high that as the last I heard they were not going to
> be produced.
>
> DonY
> 65F250-351W
> 74F100-351W
>
> "Pessimism is simply optimism with all the facts"
>
>
>
> As would be the other two or three spare 66's you could build with that kind
> of dough.
>
> Stock Man>>
>
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:30:24 -0400
From: "Marvin Meyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Low power 302's

One other thing, it also pulls a 5210 # 73 Tbird once in a while too.
Later.......
Marvin
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:58:31 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion

>about these Beasts..And also the kick A** Lightning!!!!There only question was
>how does ford plan on keeping the rear wheels planted on the Lightning :):)
>Its a truck bed with no weight...


Here's the answer to your Lightning question :

Best times were turned by putting the column shifter in Third gear, holding
the truck with the brakes, and bringing the revs up just over idle. Any
higher than that, and the rear meats melt like candle wax. When it's time
to go, left foot up, right foot down.


That was from Popular Mechanics and their 13 Fastest Cars in America ....
funny Ford had the only pickup on the list ... :)

check out the article at :

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Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:58:27 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny.

Ya,,, enjoyed math at the school,,,,,,, but the math education wasn't into
Ford trannies... was more about how many apples or bananas.... LOL

I didn't have the courage to lift up both wheels... I suspected the wheels
would not turn with the same speed if one of the brakes could be holding a
little... and then my calculation would be like a kick of a hen,,, you know
how the hen kicks, there is no presission,,, one kick west, and the next
kick east.

Well, if I am lucky there is an answer to the tranny question when I get
back from visiting my parents,,, I really need to get a shop manual and
maybe most important, a wiring diagram.

Bye bye for now. Bill


> You did the math and got 1.75, but since the other wheel wasn't moving,
the
> drive shaft was turning twice as fast as it would've normally been (funny
> thing about open rear ends, they're predictable :) so 7/2=3.5 sounds
> good to me :)
>
> >Then, the tranny is a Ford transmission of some kind.
> >
> well that's about all I could tell you :) sorry.
>
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> wish
>
> Links
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:12:46 -0500
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - more brake problems

As announced I thought I had the master cylinder problem solved but after
driving it today I don't think so. I have the pushrod adjusted so that the
pedal feels normal when I first get in. After about 5 miles of driving the
pedal is way at the top and my brakes are dragging. If I shut it down and
let it sit for a bit the pedal returns to normal. Any ideas? The power
booster is relatively new, less than a year old.

Thanks again, hehe
Brett
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:31:52 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - more brake problems

In a message dated 8/6/99 1:13:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
byerks superford.org writes:

> I have the pushrod adjusted so that the
> pedal feels normal when I first get in. After about 5 miles of driving the
> pedal is way at the top and my brakes are dragging.

You do not have enough clearance on the adjustment between the master
cylinder and power booster. There is a specific clearance that must be set
per Ford's Specs. I don't have a 75 Shop manual but suspect that the same
spec applies for similirly equipped trucks between 73-79.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 14:32:26 -0400
From: "Sean R. Kerns"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders?

I don't take the cap off very often at all. I did notice,
however, when I first noticed the brakes were soft, that the
fluid in the front of the MC was brown and milky. I bled all
that through, and it seemed much more firm.
I guess water got in somehow, but I don't know how. I will
say, however, that the floppy, held on by a wire bail type
MC doesn't seem as secure as the old "fruit jar" types I
have had on my older Mustang and now on my Galaxie. These
may have their own problems but at least I can feel like
they're closed.

Sean


> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:18:28 -0700
> From: "Hogan, Tom"
> Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders?
>
> Sean,
> 5 years does seem a little soon. Do you take the lid off the MC often? Do
> you have a bottle of old brake fluid lying around that you use to top off
> the system. Dot 3 brake fluid absorbs moisture which will then corrode the
> brake components. This would be my suspicion.
>
> Tom H
>
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:34:33 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion

> Don,
> the Excursion(house on wheels) is a Go from Ford, My neighbor works
> for a local Ford dealer in the service dept. and they just went to school
to
> learn
> about these Beasts..And also the kick A** Lightning!!!!There only question
was
> how does ford plan on keeping the rear wheels planted on the Lightning
:):)
> Its a truck bed with no weight...
> Joe
.....

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I must know what a "Lightning"
is. I've seen the term used on the list before, but haven't got a clue what
you're talking about. What the heck is a Lightning?


TIA
Danger



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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 15:02:18 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Old Beasts/Excursion

> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I must know what a "Lightning"
>is. I've seen the term used on the list before, but haven't got a clue what
>you're talking about. What the heck is a Lightning?
>

Well before you get flamed off the list (and for those who don't know) take
a regular cab, step side pickup (short bed) ... 2 wheel drive, then put all
the go fast goodies on it you can think of (4wheel disc brakes,
supercharger!, automatic with re tuned shift points, bucket seats, 18x8
rims aluminum of course, big fat tires, but low profile to keep the
sidewall flex down ... a nice side exit exhaust through a barely
restrictive muffler) ... oh yeah and keep the 5,000 lb towing capacity with
it ... something the 454ss's forgot to do ...

When your'e all done you have the fastest stock truck in the land ...
Here's the basic stats...

Engine: 5.4L/330.0 CID SOHC 16v supercharged V8
HP: 360 4750 rpm,
Torque: 440 ft.-lb. 3000 rpm
Trans: 4A,
Drivetrain: front engine/rear drive
Rear axle: 3.55:1 limited-slip w/9.75-in. ring gear
Curb weight: 4670 lb,
Weight/HP ratio: 13.0
Horsepower per liter: 66.7,
Tires: 295/45ZR18
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 2.04 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.34 sec. 1/4 mile: 13.62 sec.
101.16 mph


Hope that helps out ....


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:29:42 -0500
From: "Phil / Debi"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - gas mileage

I see everyone talking about gas mileage for FE engines, I just picked up a
70 with the 240 six and it has a tired, but running engine. I'm going to
drive it and build a new engine. my question is I have a 360 but was
considering a 300 six for better gas mileage. is there going to be that much
of a difference to make it worth looking for one rather than just putting
the 360 in?

Phil Beattie
66 F100 390 C6
66 F100 parts truck
69 F250 parts truck
70 F100 240-6 3 speed
79 F250 4x4 400 C6 (for sale)

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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:33:02 -0400
From: David Henderson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: gas mileage

Phil Beattie wrote:
>is there going to be that much of a difference to make it worth looking for one

Phil:

I'm getting about 14mpg now that I have my timing set OK. Tony M mentions that
he can get 16mpg with his now defunct '78 (or should I say active '76). Keep in
mind that both of us have 4bbl on our trucks (Tone => 600 cfm, me => 500 cfm,
altitude difference ~ 3000 feet) and both are 4x4s. Also neither of us has
really good timing. We have to tune our timing to the type of driving we do
most since we cannot recurve our distributors (no kit available) and our mild
after-market cams make that much difference (the I6s seem to respond to subtle
differences in tuning more than the V-8s). I do plan on having Clifford
recurve a dist for me this fall.

If you go stock (stock cam, dist, carb, etc...) I think you should be able to
get at least 16-17mpg. For the carb, check out Pony Carbs on the web
at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cybervillage.com/PonyCarburetor/index.htm . They remanufacture
the Autolite 1100s and they mention some performance improvements over the stock
carb.

I think you'll enjoy the 300 in the F100. It makes for a fun truck and that
F100 should be a good cruising or daily driving truck (isn't it Tom B that has
a 240 in his daily driver?).

Good Luck!!

Dave H

PS What is the difference between the Carter made for Motorcraft and the
Autolite carbs? I have the old Carter carb off of my donor engine and I'm just
wondering...

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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:08:10 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lightning (was Old Beasts/Excursion)

> a regular cab, step side pickup (short bed) ... 2 wheel drive, then put
all
> the go fast goodies on it you can think of (4wheel disc brakes,
> supercharger!....
> .... When your'e all done you have the fastest stock truck in the land ...
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Woohooo!... sounds like a fun truck, thanks for the info


Danger



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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:28:00 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Update on my 1966 F-250 240 CID

In a message dated 8/6/99 4:53:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DHenders VT.Edu
writes:

> isn't it Tom B that has
> a 240 in his daily driver?).

Yep....I do but right now the bare block is in a tank of solvent soaking to
get the crud out. Since my last post on this project....I pulled the engine
quite a while ago (Memorial Day yikes!), but some little league coaching
responsibilities and other life commitments have kept me out of the Garage.
I tore the engine down because of poor oiling to the rockers and what I
suspected was a cam gear going bad. (It was still been running very well
which made the choice to pull the engine quite difficult). The original
fiber cam gear was in fact broken. It had a few teeth that were just
starting to break but it also had a large crack which ran perpendicular from
the outside of the gear to the center and almost all the way up the other
side. I suspect that if I had driven the truck any longer the cam would have
broke right in half and who knows what else.

I resolved this week that I would devote the time needed to finish. Last
night I pulled the pistons and crank. The bores look great but the crank
journals are all discolored grayish. I do not suspect overheating but rather
poor maintenance and/or oil additives. I have to mic everything out, but
essentially I just plan on hand-dressing the crank and deglazing the
cylinders and putting it back together stock :-) what else is new right CJ?
Everything will get a nice coat of paint. BTW.. my carb also needed a
rebuild. I looked at Pony's page and it is very appealing (especially since
they are only 1/2 hour away). I may just do one myself to save some dough.
I have no idea what the mileage was before, but I figure from estimates that
I was getting 15-20. I never drove the truck over 55 (with 4.56 gears how
can you).
Thanks Dave for giving me the chance to update everyone!

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:50:09 EDT
From: JefriHansn aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 429/460 bellhousing

OKAY! Finished rebuilding my transmission. Finished rebuilding my 69
429. Put it all together - couldn't get it in gear because the clutch
wouldn't release. Jacked up the rear because someone suggested the clutch
was stuck to the flywheel - started it in gear, clutched it and hit the
brakes - worked, but the god awefullest grinding noise was heard. Driven it
20 miles - got the same vibration at 1500 rpm's and clutch chatter it had
when I pulled it in to find the pilot bearing gone, input shaft bearing gone,
and clutch misaligned about 1/8 inch.
I had this Lakewood Industries bellhousing bore centered to within .002,
well below thier recommended .005-.007. But ya know - been thinking this
afternoon - the top of the transmission didn't want to pull up when I was
bolting it together - just because it's centered - doesn't mean the mating
surfaces are square - does it. SO WHAT DOES EVERYBODY ELSE USE to mate thier
swaps of 429/460's to the NP 435 in the 79 F-150 4WD's? I just spent another
$3500 on this ^&)&%% truck - and I'm right back to square one! Stuck my
finger in the hole on the bottom of this bellhousing - nothing but brass
glitter, and oh yeah - either rear main or transmission oil.
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:09:32 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED

>From: "don"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED
>
>Help, I have just rebuilt a 71 400 to put in
>my 79 F-150, but I can not find a oil dipstick
>tube (goes into block) ANY help is
>appreciated as I am ready to put it into
>the truck......

Yo Don:

Are you looking for the car type tube that runs into the front of the block or
the truck type tube that runs into the left side of the oil pan? According to
my parts dept sources, both types are still available from Ford.

The part number of the car dipstick tube is D1AZ-6754-A and retail price from a
Ford dealer should be around $14. The part number of the truck dipstick tube is
E1TZ-6754-C and it retails for around $20.

Dipsticks for both tubes are also available. The car dipstick part number is
D5AZ-6750-B and it runs about $11. The truck dipstick part number is
E2UZ-6750-A and it runs about $12.

These prices are from a Ford dealer in the Denver area, so in your neighborhood,
prices may vary.

If you look at M-blocks in the junkyard, you could probably find them there,
too, but I wouldn't pay more than a buck or two apiece for used ones.

Good luck.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:27:08 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Truck Parts

Hey all
i was talking to the parents and they may let me make a new farm truck that
is 2 wd drive (we have genearal malfunction now ha) question is i want to
make a really heavy heavy duty truck im talking axles tranny and so on. i
think i want to stick with something newer than 73, but i need a parts list
of what i should look for for heavy duty parts
1- heavy duty frame - 250 would probaly work
2- back axle- dana 70?
3- motor- thats open for suggestions gas milage isnt a problem here
4- cab and box- not sure here
5- tranny- would prefer a auto here
but i want to put about 4 more leaf springs in to so its gonna be a 1 1/2 ton
truck by the time im done with it. anmy info is apreciated
Travis
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 20:49:12 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 66 VIN Numbers

Hay,
My shop manual for 1966 says:

Y.........................................8 Cyl. 352 CID (2V)

My VIN for my 1966 truck is: F10YN788395

Tim. 66 F100 SWB, Custom Cab, 352, power steering and O/D
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:48:28 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Low power 302's

Reminds me of a time I was heading into town on I-15. I was common in from
camping driving my lil Escort, Speedo stooped at 85, but according to the
tach, I was doing 135. Anyhow we were really movin, and I had a once in a
life time opportunity to fly past a Viper. It was fun, but reflecting on it,
it was a very stupid thing to do. Boy Ive changed a lot since I first
started drivin.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:48:20 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 VIN Numbers

In a message dated 8/6/99 8:50:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
theoconnors mindspring.com writes:

> Y.........................................8 Cyl. 352 CID (2V)
>
> My VIN for my 1966 truck is: F10YN788395

Houston we have a problem.......Looks like the MPC has a mis-print. When I
looked at it yesterday it did not show a Y engine code for 66 only for 67.
I had thought the D code was correct for a 66 352 but that''s not right
either as that is the 352 code for 1965 only. When I looked closer at the
MPC tonight it doesn't even show a code for a 352 in 1966. That's obviously
wrong. I guess I will have to go with the conventional wisdom so far. In
1966 the 352 engine code is "Y". Oh well...we live and learn.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:38:00 PDT
From: "George Litton"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power

Build a 351W. It is a direct bolt-in, including brackets and motor mounts.
Get a good four barrel intake manifold, and choose a mild RV cam. Dual
exhaust, electric fan, and air cleaner are all good ideas. Good Luck!


>From: "Dolphin"
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To:
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power
>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:36 -0600
>
>Hi all,
>I'm new to this list, and thankful it's here. I am a firm believer of the
>power of the Internet for getting good information.
>My wife and I recently inherited her late father's '79 F150. We sold our
>'92
>Nissan Hardbody to give the Ford all of our attention since it has
>sentimental value. The odometer says 87k miles. I don't know if it's gone
>around or not.
>Last week, we bought a 8 1/2' cabover camper to do the camping thing we
>love
>so much. The Nissan was worthless in that regard. However, this rig set our
>truck's butt in the dirt. We added 1500# overload springs and replaced the
>shocks with Monroe Gas Magnums. The truck rides and sits properly again.
>However, the little 302 is being overworked and will barely hit 55MPH on
>flat land. Now, I don't know if I should drop a 351 or 390 in it, or go for
>beefing up the 302. I was told that a 460 would be overkill, and the 5 lug
>rear end wouldn't handle it anyway.
>The 302 runs good, burns no oil (even with the load), has a 2 bbl carb,
>stock (2into1) exhaust, etc.
>I could add a dual exhaust system, electric fan (there is no fan clutch
>now), better air cleaner, etc. Or go for some headwork, RV cam, etc.
>
>Whadya think?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Jeff
>
>******************************
>So many roads, so little time...
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 03:00:48 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Electrical help, or the incredible popping fuse

Hi there folks. Im hopin you can help. I need to know where should I look
to find the single wire that when shorted or whatever its doing, would cause
both the turn signal AND brake light fuses to pop simultaneously. Ive
removed the wiring harness for the camper to eliminate this, completely re
did my trailer harness, and also replaced the mess in the steering column I
found. (Pray you wont ever need one, I got mine for $75 plus tax on discount
from Ford) Im up a creek here. Any ideas? If not, I suppose I'll have to
sit down, and relearn all I forgot (on purpose) about schematics. Thanks
everyone.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 01:32:32 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Electrical help, or the incredible popping fuse

I need to know where should I look
> to find the single wire that when shorted or whatever its doing, would
cause
> both the turn signal AND brake light fuses to pop simultaneously
..........

If I remember correctly, the "green" wire controls the right rear brake
& turn, the "yellow" wire for the left rear brake & turn, and the "brown"
wire is taillights on the older trucks without amber turn signals on the
rear. I would suspect a short on the green (right) or yellow (left) wire
somewhere towards the rear of the truck or where recent work has been done.

ex U-Haul employee (long, long ago)....


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