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From: owner-61-79-list-digest To: 61-79-list-digest Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #275 Reply-To: 61-79-list Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Friday, August 6 1999 Volume 03 : Number 275 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - F-350 cabs FTE 61-79 - Meeting Saturday Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shorty and Daves Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers (calling all 66 owners) FTE 61-79 - Cold AC R134a idle test FTE 61-79 - HELP Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP Re: FTE 61-79 - Cold Air FTE 61-79 - email Re: FTE 61-79 - Shorty and Daves Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP Re: FTE 61-79 - Cold Air FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders? FTE 61-79 - To super duty or not Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:To super duty or not Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power Re: FTE 61-79 - Starter No-Go-Go & Junkyard Fun Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED FTE 61-79 - VIN numbers Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke Re: FTE 61-79 - Meeting Saturday Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power Re: FTE 61-79 - VIN numbers Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say FTE 61-79 - RE: cabover Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say FTE 61-79 - FTE humor...enjoy! Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny. Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say FTE 61-79 - Old Beasts Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Re: FTE 61-79 - Old Beasts Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP Re: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny. FTE 61-79 - RE: Changing the gearing Re: FTE 61-79 - trans question Re: FTE 61-79 - old stuff, how sweet it is FTE 61-79 - Re: Wolverine Cams RE: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes: Follow-up RE: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders? RE: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power FTE 61-79 - cab mystery Re: FTE 61-79 - cab mystery Re: FTE 61-79 - cab mystery Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED FTE 61-79 - Re: Wiring and other parts..... Re: FTE 61-79 - old stuff, how sweet it is ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 05:10:27 -0500 From: ballingr Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-350 cabs The F-350 cab could be like mine, ('65 F250 4X4) which has more in common with the '61-'64 cabs. Does it have dropped bottom door sills(like inside running boards), or is the floor flat all the way to the door? If it has the drop sills it's like mine. In '65 and '66 it was correct for the F250 4X4. I bet it's the F350 also, since the front fenders are the same too. They don't have the dropped lip from the main contour line. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:23:58 -0400 (EDT) From: jdklaers Subject: FTE 61-79 - Meeting Saturday Gang: Those of you who can make it, our 2nd meeting (not counting our "E-meeting) will be at the Cracker Barrell next to the mall off I-4. How does 9:30 sound? John - ----------------------------------- Deja Fu: The feeling you get that somehow, somewhere, you've been kicked in the head like this before. - ----------------------------------- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:02:30 EDT From: TBeeee Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers > Oddly enough, my VIN decoding book shows for 1966 that a Y code is a 352. > Info is from "The catalog of Ford Truck ID numbers 1946-1972" Stranger things have happened but either the Ford Master Parts Manual is wrong, your book is wrong or I'm wrong. The Y code was clearly used in 1967 for the 352. Perhaps this truck is some sort of transition. after all it was built fairly late in the season judging by the sequential unit number. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:15:32 -0500 From: "Corey Johnson" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers All this talk of VINumbers got me curious and I decided to check mine... according to what I can find (which is not much) my '66 F100 352' doesn't exist and if it does its is either a 66 with a 360 no rear end or a 70 with a 352' and a 3.5 rear end. Got this from a chilton's old truck/engine repair book. I only remember the first part off the top of my head F10YD (i remember because when I first saw it 16yo and did know any better, I thought it said FLOYD...hehe) TBeeee > > Oddly enough, my VIN decoding book shows for 1966 that a Y code is a 352. > > Info is from "The catalog of Ford Truck ID numbers 1946-1972" > > Stranger things have happened but either the Ford Master Parts Manual is > wrong, your book is wrong or I'm wrong. The Y code was clearly used in 1967 > for the 352. Perhaps this truck is some sort of transition. after all it > was built fairly late in the season judging by the sequential unit number. > > Stock Man == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 08:19:00 -0400 From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shorty and Daves Don, I know how you feel, I almost live at SHortys(at least my wife says that) and know how you feel about being under the truck with the big orange forklift holding it up..But the prices are great..We pulled a 9" ford and a np435 for a whopping $100...So I'm all for the $2.00..But i went one step further and bought the year membership for $25...I've been there enough times to cover this already:) Joe Bucks County, PA 68 4x4 390 74 Bronco 4x4 302 "My new project ? " "Don Haring, Jr." wrote: > John LaGrone said: > > >> Admission fee was $2.00 > > >>>Admission fee? To a wrecking yard? Now I have heard of everything. > >>>They wouldn't be in business 3 minutes down here. > > I just think of it like admission to a cheap amusement park. It has rides > such as "climb over that truck to get to the one wedged behind it" and > games like "what did I just step in?". :) > > It is a bummer going in, paying the $2, and coming out with nothing but > dirty boots and sweat, but otherwise the prices are good. It was a good day > the time I once walked out with: a steering/shift column, steering wheel, > good turn signal harness, headlight bezels, rear lenses, an engine box > cover, 2 vent windows, and window crank handles for a grand total of $25. > Of course, I smiled nicely to the girl at the office. And mom said I'd > never get by on my good looks ... > > Danger said: > > Most of the yards around here don't have an admission fee, but the best > > yard is Pick & Pull which charges $2.00 admission. I'd rather pay the 2 > > bucks than deal with any of the other yards because P&P is the largest and > > all vehicles are spaced far enough apart and elevated (on rims) which makes > > my job much easier. > > Wow, that sounds nice. My yard really does pack them in, although they've > thinned it out a bit lately (by making these towering walls of trucks and > vans -- once a truck goes into the "wall", you can kiss any parts on it > goodbye). > > I had to pull some stock drums from an old Econoline there and they have a > "no jacking" policy. One of the yard guys comes over with the forklift, > lifts the truck up, and then YOU stack old tires up under it to support it. > I don't know about you guys, but hanging out under a rusted van perched on > two forklift forks isn't my idea of a good time. The guy was kind enough to > keep the forklift there while I cursed and beat on the rusted drums to get > them off (it's a little hard when you can't get to the adjusters to back > the brake pads off). I got my drums and got out of there without anything > falling on me, so I have no real complaints. > > -don > > -- > Don in Philadelphia > Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon > Falconaut: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fedora.net/falconaut | 61 Falcon Futura > Keystone: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fedora.net/falconkey | classic scooters and bicycles > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:21:39 EDT From: TBeeee Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers (calling all 66 owners) > All this talk of VINumbers got me curious and I decided to check mine... > according to what I can find (which is not much) my '66 F100 352' doesn't > exist Got this from a chilton's old truck/engine repair book. > Corey: Chilton's is notoriously unreliable for decoding data. If we can get some more 66 owners to post their data perhaps this wIll shed some light on these codes. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:33:03 -0500 From: Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cold AC R134a idle test I've been following the latest R12 vs R134a thread here and was very interested in statements that R134a doesn't work at idle. So when I got into my truck to leave work yesterday I did an idle AC cooling test. With the truck (*cold* after sitting over 8 hours) at idle and AC (R134a system not a conversion) on max, the vent temp dropped about 10 degrees per minute from 92 F to 60 F. (BTW the 92 was in the shade). Then I decided that was good enough cooling for me and went home. Bryan Kirking 66 Step Side 352 FE, 4 speed Houston, Texas == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:31:08 -0500 From: wiregoat Subject: FTE 61-79 - HELP My truck now overheats within 10 miles. I have replaced the radiator, water pump, timing chain and gears, replaced the distributor ( springs, weights, were shot, I'm not just an idiot), set the timing to all kinds of positions, and completely removed the thermostat. WHAT AM I MISSING? I have now spent a month ( after work ) trying to get this engine running. College starts up again in two weeks at which time all life ceases. The engine is a 1969 302 v-8 which purrs QUIETLY like a kitten for the brief times it is running. It does indeed overheat because the entire engine compartment is now completely steam cleaned. I hope somebody has some insight. My wife is now filling out the papers to have me committed. I must go now. It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:45:49 -0400 From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP If the motor was recently rebuilt were the head gaskets put on backwards???restricting water passages??? just an idea It happend in my 69 mustang with a 302 Joe wiregoat > My truck now overheats within 10 miles. I have replaced the radiator, > water pump, timing chain and gears, replaced the distributor ( springs, > weights, were shot, I'm not just an idiot), set the timing to all kinds > of positions, and completely removed the thermostat. WHAT AM I MISSING? > I have now spent a month ( after work ) trying to get this engine > running. College starts up again in two weeks at which time all life > ceases. The engine is a 1969 302 v-8 which purrs QUIETLY like a kitten > for the brief times it is running. It does indeed overheat because the > entire engine compartment is now completely steam cleaned. I hope > somebody has some insight. My wife is now filling out the papers to have > me committed. I must go now. > > It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning > to others. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:55:33 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cold Air Amen brother! All my older vehicles could literally blow out white frosty air! My new car's ac is not nearly as cold. Ken Payne "William L. Ballinger" wrote: > > > My '98 Contour's air takes forever to cool down on a 95+ day. It might > be some other condition causing it, I don't know. I don't remember > older cars taking that long to get cold air. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:23:09 -0500 From: "Corey Johnson" Subject: FTE 61-79 - email How would I go about getting the list mail sent to a different address? Sorry for an OT question, but I am about to change jobs and want to stay subscribed. Corey Johnson '66 F100 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:46:21 EDT From: DRVNDBUS Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Shorty and Daves they would if you found out the savings you would have saved == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:04:02 +0100 From: Allen Repashy Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP I would do one of two things, depending on what is available to you. If you have access to a cooling system pressure tester (a great tool to have) check for exhaust pressure in the cooling system :-( . Exhaust pressure will quickly raise the pressure in the system and pop the cap on you and pump out coolant. I just had the same problem in my Falcon. When I took it apart, the gaskets looked good, and the heads pressure tested good. It ended up that there was a small crack in the block. The best trick is to go to your local smog shop and get them to open your radiator cap and put the sniffer over the hole. If there is any exhaust in the system, it will show up instantly. Good luck, Allen Repashy. PS, Is anybody going to answer my question about disk brakes and power steering? wiregoat > My truck now overheats within 10 miles. I have replaced the radiator, > water pump, timing chain and gears, replaced the distributor ( springs, > weights, were shot, I'm not just an idiot), set the timing to all kinds > of positions, and completely removed the thermostat. WHAT AM I MISSING? > I have now spent a month ( after work ) trying to get this engine > running. College starts up again in two weeks at which time all life > ceases. The engine is a 1969 302 v-8 which purrs QUIETLY like a kitten > for the brief times it is running. It does indeed overheat because the > entire engine compartment is now completely steam cleaned. I hope > somebody has some insight. My wife is now filling out the papers to have > me committed. I must go now. > > It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning > to others. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:51:58 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP Thanks for your message at 08:31 AM 8/5/99 -0500, wiregoat message was: >My truck now overheats within 10 miles. I have replaced the radiator, >water pump, timing chain and gears, replaced the distributor ( springs, >weights, were shot, I'm not just an idiot), set the timing to all kinds >of positions, and completely removed the thermostat. WHAT AM I MISSING? Check the hoses and belts. My son had a similar problem that was driving him crazy and it ended up being a bad hose the was collapsing, but not until about 1200 rpm, so it was not visible under normal idling conditions. Rev the engine while watching the hoses, seeing if either hose is collapsing inward, cutting off the coolant flow... Is the belt on the water pump slipping? You would most likely hear a squealing noise if it is slipping, but not always. Good luck. This kind of problem can be frustrating... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:04:44 -0700 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cold Air Is '90 considered old? My '90 Bronco puts out uncomfortably cold air with the A/C. Must be full of the "good" R-12... :^) Rade - -----Original Message----- From: Ken Payne To: 61-79-list Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:57 AM Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cold Air >Amen brother! All my older vehicles could literally >blow out white frosty air! My new car's ac is not nearly >as cold. > >Ken Payne > >"William L. Ballinger" wrote: >> >> >> My '98 Contour's air takes forever to cool down on a 95+ day. It might >> be some other condition causing it, I don't know. I don't remember >> older cars taking that long to get cold air. >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:28:55 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders? >>Is there something about these trucks that kills MC's, or is it just me? Driving them. It's you. :-) Seriously, I replace my MC a lot more often than I think I should have to. I have a lifetime warranty one from Auto Zone. Sometimes the units you get are not as high quality as the OEM. My son's Monte C - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:17:22 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - To super duty or not >> I mean new trucks are nice, and there must be some pride in your voice when you say "I bought that," but nothing, and I mean nothing compares to saying "I built that," Im sure you all know what I mean. I'll see ya You got it Darrell. I get as many rubber necks in my truck as any new trucks get. When I speak with people about my truck and tell them I spent 2 years restoring the interior and repainting the outside, the next question is always "Who did the work for you?" My reply is "I did it all myself." Most people cannot fathom the part about doing it yourself. Not only does your truck get new respect, but so do you. Keeping an old Ford when you could buy a new one tells people two things. 1. I know what I am doing, and 2. I am a leader, not a follower. - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:09:38 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:To super duty or not >We all love our trucks greatly but I think most of us wouldn't be out there >6 days a week with them if we didn't use them so much as our daily drivers. Amen ! :) I know I've got a choice as to what I want to drive, I can take the new 'stang or the old pickup ... most of the time I take the pickup. Its great to drive, makes cool noises (390's 'll do that :), and best of all I don't have to worry about it! I can park it in the lot with the windows down, and nothing in there is worth stealing, so it just sits and no one messes with it. The other thing about here is that if you are driving a truck, especially an old one, likely you aren't some little twirp either, so most people avoid it on the fact that you're probably bigger'n them ... As for the Super Duty's ... well I almost fell prey, I was havin trouble with my truck, and lookin for something newer when I saw an F350 super duty for sale ... beautiful truck, base except for the V10 and 4x4 .... exactly what I wanted, and just in the price range I could almost afford ... but I resisted, and boy am I glad I did! Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:24:24 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power >However, the little 302 is being overworked and will barely hit 55MPH on >flat land. Now, I don't know if I should drop a 351 or 390 in it, or go for >beefing up the 302. I was told that a 460 would be overkill, and the 5 lug >rear end wouldn't handle it anyway. >The 302 runs good, burns no oil (even with the load), has a 2 bbl carb, >stock (2into1) exhaust, etc. >I could add a dual exhaust system, electric fan (there is no fan clutch >now), better air cleaner, etc. Or go for some headwork, RV cam, etc. > >Whadya think? > Well you asked .... :) I would spend some more time fiddling with the tuning, see how much more power you can get out of it... some advance on the timing and a little tuning of the carb may help out quite a bit. If you are into replacing the motor, a well built 351 can probably do very well for you, and require minimum work to change out (same tranny, etc.). Someone else suggested the rear gear change, definitely something to look at, 2.73 gears won't help you haul a lot, but empty they will get you pretty good mileage. The exhaust on these trucks from the factory was a bit restrictive, you may want to look into duals at least, or hi-flow components that are bigger than what you have now (IE 2.5"+ for single) I don't mind a little noise, so I'd probably go with the setup dad's got on the Ranchero, long tube headers, true duals 2.25", only I'd put in real mufflers instead of the race magnums he has, sounds good, but wouldn't want it for long trips... he also has a riser 4V on it, which I would do with a low riser (none of this high stuff here) ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:30:08 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starter No-Go-Go & Junkyard Fun >the hell? I've been having this starter trouble since day 1, where the >starter would work but sometimes had the notion to quickly disengage and >spin out before the truck started. This is usually a sign of a worn drive gear, actually the spring is the worn part, but you can buy just that piece from the auto parts store and swap in the new one ... doesn't take very long, and saves you a few bucks ... > Im thinking maybe my starter relay is crapped out. Well, I needed >an excuse to switch the starters anyway I guess. > I think we just went through this with Ian ... start by checking all the ground wires thoroughly, then try the starter relay ... etc ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:32:26 EDT From: TWL1911 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Hey all well you guys hae to come through with this one. on my 66 ford 352 i cant get it started. all it does is crank acts like there is fire. i replaced the coil there is a new rotor and cap and plug wires and plugs and new points and condensor. the rotor is spinning and i dont know what to do i am really stuck im at my wits end and i dont want to sell it because im gettign threats from the parents. thanks for any info == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:43:05 -0500 From: "don" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED Help, I have just rebuilt a 71 400 to put in my 79 F-150, but I can not find a oil dipstick tube (goes into block) ANY help is appreciated as I am ready to put it into the truck...... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:50:09 -0400 From: "Upchurch, Jason" Subject: FTE 61-79 - VIN numbers I am in need of some help still, My 300 inline doesn't want to run right when I have the air cleaner installed. It seems to cut it self out, the idle slows down, and starts to miss slightly. I need help, please. Also, where on the net can you decode vin numbers? Thanks for your help in advance jupchurch == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:06:34 -0700 From: Don or Bub Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke My automatic choke does not work and I want to > >put it back to original working order my truck had the same problem. you can go to your local shop like pep boys and get an automatic choke or stove pipe kit for around 10 bucks ok bub == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:19:00 -0400 From: "Ray Taschenberger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Meeting Saturday I take it that is the SR 46----I-4 interchange Cracker Barrel. CU ray == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:27:40 -0400 From: "Ray Taschenberger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power 302 should pull that truck and an overhead camper; been there -- done that! I would be more concern with strength of the rear end if you are planning on any long time relationship with the camper on the truck. You might get by for a while but long term will result in broken axles, bearing failure, fractured wheels, blown tires, or all the above. Weigh that rig and find out just how much weight you have on that thing but I think you'll find out you are grossly overloaded. Good luck, have fun, ray == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:09:09 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - VIN numbers >I am in need of some help still, >My 300 inline doesn't want to run right when I have the air cleaner >installed. It seems to cut it self out, the idle slows down, and starts to >miss slightly. How did you tune it up ? you might try tuning it again with the air cleaner installed ... timing and carb adjustments and all. It doesn't make much difference on my 390, but a friend had a 250 (I6) and it made a heck of a difference ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:10:56 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say >well you guys hae to come through with this one. on my 66 ford 352 i cant get >it started. all it does is crank acts like there is fire. i replaced the >coil there is a new rotor and cap and plug wires and plugs and new points and >condensor. the rotor is spinning and i dont know what to do i am really >stuck im at my wits end and i dont want to sell it because im gettign >threats from the parents. thanks for any info Hope you don't have to sell it! So have you actually checked to see if you're getting fire ? Got a timing light handy ? have someone see where its firing at while you're crankin it (or vice versa) ... also be sure and check the fuel, are you getting any ? if you are crankin on it for any amount of time and it doesn't smell like fuel, that could be the problem ... if you are very very careful, you can disconnect the fuel line from the carb, and put something on the end of the fuel line (I packed papertowels around it), and crank it over to see if you're getting any fuel, if not, check for a plugged line and/or a bad fuel pump. Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:26:01 -0700 From: MC Subject: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges I've got a '76 F150 with idiot lights. My buddy has a '77 F150 that he is parting out and it has the gauges instead of the lights. Can I just plug his gauge cluster into my wiring harness and expect it to work, or will I have to get new sending units? Please don't tell me that I'll have to do anymore rewiring............Ok, if you have to, you can tell me, but I won't like it. - -- Matt Cozad When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:45:25 -0500 From: Larry Schmiedekamp Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Sounds like you may have the dist. one notch off. At 12:32 PM 8/5/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hey all >well you guys hae to come through with this one. on my 66 ford 352 i cant get >it started. all it does is crank acts like there is fire. i replaced the >coil there is a new rotor and cap and plug wires and plugs and new points and >condensor. the rotor is spinning and i dont know what to do i am really >stuck im at my wits end and i dont want to sell it because im gettign >threats from the parents. thanks for any info >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:49:22 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges > I've got a '76 F150 with idiot lights. My buddy has a '77 F150 that >he is parting out and it has the gauges instead of the lights. Can I >just plug his gauge cluster into my wiring harness and expect it to >work, or will I have to get new sending units? Hmmm...seems like someone said there was some rewiring to do, but I don't remember what it was, at the very least you will need new sending units that are calibrated for that dash ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:52:23 EDT From: TWL1911 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Hey well i got it down to the neighbors place he pulled me down with his 66 truck and we think its the carb the fuel pump is pumping fuel and it is trying to fire but no go we are gonna rebuildthe carb and see what happens Travis == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:12:33 -0400 From: "George W. Selby, III" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: cabover A half-ton isn't really designed for a cab-over camper, as you are now discovering. I would recommend lower gears (4.10's). Headers would be good, alum intake and a small 4-bbl couldn't hurt. A 351 would be better, any other engine will require a tranny swap too. Torque should be your goal. Cubic inches are your answer. My 9" rear end lives behind a built 400M, but with all your weight, a Dana 60 conversion (3/4 ton or higher) might be in your future (and that would take care of the gearing, if you buy the right ratio.) George Selby 78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4 86 Audi 4000CS Quattro IsuzuG == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 14:20:26 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say >well i got it down to the neighbors place he pulled me down with his 66 truck >and we think its the carb the fuel pump is pumping fuel and it is trying to >fire but no go we are gonna rebuildthe carb and see what happens Good to hear, those carbs clog up if there's nothin run through them for a while (those carbs=any ever made that has gas in it) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:47:45 -0500 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE humor...enjoy! A older woman down south goes into the local newspaper office to see that the obituary for her recently deceased husband is properly written. (She had always been known for her accuracy to details, second only to her famous sense of thrift.) Only his beloved Ford Pickup remained to remind her of his presence. The obit editor informs her that the fee for the obituary is 50 cents a word. She pauses, reflects and then says, "Well then, let it read, 'Billy Bob died." Although amused at the woman's cleverness, the editor says, "Sorry ma'am there is a 7 word minimum on all obituaries." This causes her to become only a little flustered, so she thinks things over for a few seconds. "In that case," she says, "let it read, 'Billy Bob died, 1978 F100 for sale. Brian H. Smith Lake Charles, LA == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:08:10 -0400 From: Tony Marino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges At 01:49 PM 8/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >> I've got a '76 F150 with idiot lights. My buddy has a '77 F150 that >>he is parting out and it has the gauges instead of the lights. Can I >>just plug his gauge cluster into my wiring harness and expect it to >>work, or will I have to get new sending units? > > >Hmmm...seems like someone said there was some rewiring to do, but I don't >remember what it was, at the very least you will need new sending units >that are calibrated for that dash ... Exactly-- the plugs on the back of the gauge clusters are two different sizes, and for that matter, the main wiring harness behind the dash is mostly different. I have done this swap, but you have to be willing to pull most of the wiring out of the donor truck, along with it's sending units. I don't know if the original senders (with idiot lights) would work, but I figured since I was in there and greasy anyway, I would just switch then just to be safe. Good luck Tony tony http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/~tony == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:12:16 EDT From: TBeeee Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges In a message dated 8/5/99 4:10:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony writes: > I don't know if the original senders (with idiot lights) would > work, but I figured since I was in there and greasy anyway, I would just > switch then just to be safe. Nope the sending units have to be changed as Wish said already. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 15:17:41 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Idiot lights to gauges >units. I don't know if the original senders (with idiot lights) would >work, but I figured since I was in there and greasy anyway, I would just >switch then just to be safe. The units for lights are just switches (on or off), the units for gauges are variable resistors essentially, they will allow different amounts of current, hence gauge movement ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:27:09 +0200 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny. Hello. Have I figured this out right ??? When I turn one rear wheel 4 times, the pinion turns 7 turns. And the other wheel is on the ground not turning at all. I have tried to calculate the ratio, and has got 3.5 : 1 as answer. Does this sound right or wrong ? Then, the tranny is a Ford transmission of some kind. The metal tag on the right side of tranny says, RAN CE2 and on the next line JD 015909 The casting number on the left side says, Ford in the oval, D2A(R or B, not sure) and *00* The first wildcard looks like a 1, but may be a 7, and the last wildcard looks like a 6, but may be a 0. In addition to the AR or AB (letters in the same size as the D2 and the rest), there are two much bigger letters AB, at least twice the size of the other letter. Does anyone know what transmission I have ? From what I understand the tranny is a 1972 tranny, so it is obvious the OD transmission is gone. Also, it must have been a while since that happened, because the dirt around bolts and so seems old. Bill Some lists their vehicles here, and here comes mine: 1965 Ford Galaxie 500 1965 Ford F-100 1979 Mercury Colony Park, 1988 Ford Aerostar cargo van. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:53:40 -0700 From: "Danger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED > Help, I have just rebuilt a 71 400 to put in my 79 F-150, but I can not find > a oil dipstick tube (goes into block) > ANY help is appreciated as I am ready to put it into the truck...... .......... When Ford wanted $65 (just the dipstick tube) for my 390, I quickly found myself paying $2 or $3 bucks at the local salvage yard. Perhaps you might want to try the local salvage yards? Danger == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:07:09 EDT From: TWL1911 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say hey well today i taked to a mechanic and he sadi to check my oints because ewhen you need power to like climb a hill the vaum advance will mone and nock the points out of place. does anyone had this happen to them where that happened travis == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:19:11 -0700 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED Is this the one that goes into the block on the right in front of the #1 cylinder? "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" - -----Original Message----- From: don To: 61-79-list Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 9:45 AM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED >Help, I have just rebuilt a 71 400 to put in my 79 F-150, but I can not find >a oil dipstick tube (goes into block) >ANY help is appreciated as I am ready to put it into the truck...... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:14:59 EDT From: TWL1911 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Hey sorry about that letter maybe i need to run a spell checker i need to relearn how to type it is points sorry anyways i do apreciate the help you guys are travis == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 18:29:40 -0700 From: "O'Connor" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Old Beasts If I had $30-40K to spend on a truck, my 66 would be like new. Tim == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 15:33:07 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - IT RUNS OR ITs out the door - the paretns say Thanks for your message at 06:07 PM 8/5/99 EDT, TWL1911 message was: >hey >well today i taked to a mechanic and he sadi to check my oints because ewhen >you need power to like climb a hill the vaum advance will mone and nock the >points out of place. does anyone had this happen to them where that happened >travis Er, uh...are you typing with a broken finger? I had a hard time deciphering this....sorry, but proofreading really helps... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:35:06 EDT From: TBeeee Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Old Beasts In a message dated 8/5/99 6:33:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, theoconnors > If I had $30-40K to spend on a truck, my 66 would be like new. As would be the other two or three spare 66's you could build with that kind of dough. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:19:03 EDT From: JUMPINFORD Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP In a message dated 8/5/99 6:45:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wiregoat writes: > Put one back in. There was a thread on this a lil while ago. You need it to slow the water so it will actually have time to pull the heat out of the block. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:38:06 EDT From: JUMPINFORD Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 rear end ratio and tranny. In a message dated 8/5/99 1:31:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bill writes: this sound right or wrong ? >> Sounds real good to me. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:52:10 -0400 From: Garry Bowling Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Changing the gearing Tom, I haven,t had a chance to tell about the mileage. I plan to take the truck on a trip within 3 weeks and will be able to tell if highway mileage has changed. I will let the digest know how it does when I get a chance. Garry == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:52:41 EDT From: IanBoss69 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - trans question the 4-speed should be longer than the 3-speed generally, so the driveshaft may not fit but who knows maybe you'll get lucky,,,,easiest way i can tell to find out is measure the trannys before you start the swap,,,, Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:58:12 EDT From: IanBoss69 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - old stuff, how sweet it is In a message dated 8/4/99 1:24:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JJJJJGRANT > it was just a good reminder how easy these older trucks are to work on, just think what it would be like in a late-90's Japanese pickup hafta take off about 400 miles worth of hosing, and little metal contraptions that you have no idea why theyre there just to get to the fuel filter, then puting it all back together, trying to get those 400 some miles of hosing routed just like they were, by the time you got done and running again the exhaust pipes would be sucking air in and the emissions(sorry i used the E word) would be coming out the EFI manifold,,, yikes Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:26:38 -0500 From: "Brett L. Habben" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Wolverine Cams William, Thanks for the tip. I saw that Wolverine/Blue Racer was purchased by Crane Cams. How does that fit into the Mellings picture? Or are they all now owned by some big conglomerate like Federal Mogul or Allied Signal? Brett Super75Cab >Wolverine cams are made by Melling. You can get the same cam in many cases >cheaper if you buy the Melling. (same part #) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:56:44 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes: Follow-up Dave, congrats on passing the e-test. Last time I had to do a CA emission test (never again ahh-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!) I had high CO. Luckily the tester was a good guy and terminated the test before I was tagged gross polluter. The mechanic said my timing was too retarded-- turned out to be 6 degrees after tdc. Ooops. My HC was in spec but was also high. He told me to set the timing and then have it retested but he predicted that the CO would go down and the HC would go out of spec. That is what happened. He eventually got it to pass by fiddling with it. It seems that CO is caused by incomplete combustion. If the timing is too retarded then there isn't enough time for complete combustion. Someone mentioned that changing the oil could cause CO to drop but didn't have an explanation. The explanation I have (be it right or not) is that old oil has been subjected to blow-by gases and gasoline products can accumulate in the oil. After a they have accumulated they start leaching back into the combustion chamber and contribute to the CO problem HC is generated by hight temps in the combustion chamber over time. Advancing the timing produces more power, more heat and more HC. Auto makers have been addressing this with quick burn technology and judicious placement of the spark plug. If the plug is more centrally located the burn starts in the center and has a shorter distance and consequently less time to burn. Just what I have picked up through observation. Hope it helps someone understand it better. Tom H > --------- > From: Dave Resch[SMTP:Dave.Resch > Reply To: 61-79-list > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 1:57 PM > To: 61-79-list > Subject: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes: Follow-up > > Yo Gang: > > Well, I fixed a few things, and as usual fixing several things at once, I > can't > say exactly which one (or even which combination) actually solved the > problem. > > I believe that leaning out the idle mixture, lowering the idle rpm, and > fixing > an odd choke problem made the difference. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:18:28 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders? Sean, 5 years does seem a little soon. Do you take the lid off the MC often? Do you have a bottle of old brake fluid lying around that you use to top off the system. Dot 3 brake fluid absorbs moisture which will then corrode the brake components. This would be my suspicion. Tom H > ---------- > From: Sean R. Kerns[SMTP:bpmusic > Reply To: 61-79-list > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 12:54 AM > To: Ford 61-79 List > Subject: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders? > > Hi all, > > Well, "eating" is a little bit of an exaggeration, but I had > the master cylinder replaced about 5 years ago, and now this > one is going (squishy pedal, pumps up, will go the the floor > occasionally). > The truck is a '79 F-250 4x4 with power brakes. Is there > something about these trucks that kills MC's, or is it just > me? > > Sean > '79 F-250 4x4 429-4V, Cincinnati, OH > > -- > Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake) > e-mail: music > Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bloodspoint.com > "You're in a band... That's like a business class ticket to > cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..." > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:35:31 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power Jeff, Welcome. I hope you find the list helpful. These trucks are great but be careful about overloading them. As far a making more power, the 302 has a wealth of hop up parts available for it. The 351 Windsor is of the same family as the 302 so it would be an easy swap. A 390 is a great all around truck motor (I have had 2) but will not fit your current transmission -- different belhousing bolt pattern. A 351M or 400 are potential candidates for a swap. Hot Rod did a $2000 build up and got 400 Hp in Sept 98. get a 460 and you'll probably never regret it. BTW the 351M, 400 and 460 would all require a different trans as well. Like any project start at the end and decide what you want from the truck. Then the decisions become easy. Tom H. > ---------- > From: Dolphin[SMTP:dolph > Reply To: 61-79-list > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 1:41 AM > To: 61-79-list > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power > > Hi all, > I'm new to this list, and thankful it's here. I am a firm believer of the > power of the Internet for getting good information. > However, the little 302 is being overworked and will barely hit 55MPH on > flat land. Now, I don't know if I should drop a 351 or 390 in it, or go > for > beefing up the 302. I was told that a 460 would be overkill, and the 5 lug > rear end wouldn't handle it anyway. > The 302 runs good, burns no oil (even with the load), has a 2 bbl carb, > stock (2into1) exhaust, etc. > I could add a dual exhaust system, electric fan (there is no fan clutch > now), better air cleaner, etc. Or go for some headwork, RV cam, etc. > > Whadya think? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jeff > > ****************************** > So many roads, so little time... > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:35:55 -0400 From: "Brad Jones" Subject: FTE 61-79 - cab mystery I think Don is correct because I did have to do some creative welding to mount the F350 cab. The rear was easy to fix with a piece of 3/8 x 4 flat stock and 4 bolts. The front cab mounts on the 350 frame were rivet on type brackets but I could not use them because of my spring placement (4wd). We had to weld up bracket similar to the '65's rotted ones. The 350 had the large rounded inners and the battery is under the passenger floor (which I kept). That is why I thought it was a '64 or older. I am sorry I can not help with the Motor mystery. When I bought the F350, the junk yard wanted the Dana70 rear and and the motor was long gone so he chopped the frame behind the cab and loaded the whole front on my friends flatbed. I can say that the second owner of my truck (from '72 to '98) said it originally had a 352 and it has a y code. I have some pictures that I will try to post on my home page if I get some time. Thanks for all the help. Believe it or not you guys keep me motivated to finish this beast Thanks Again Brad == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:16:02 EDT From: TBeeee Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - cab mystery In a message dated 8/5/99 10:50:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bjones writes: > Thanks for all the help. > Believe it or not you guys keep me motivated to finish this beast I know I speak for everyone when I say your welcome....I know that it's questions like yours that helps me to understand more about the various year trucks. Keep us posted on the "beast" Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:22:46 -0700 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - cab mystery Brad Jones wrote: > I have some pictures that I will try to post on my home page if I get some > time. > Thanks for all the help. > Believe it or not you guys keep me motivated to finish this beast > Thanks Again > Brad Can't wait for the pic's. sometimes those "projects" seem to take for ever. - -- Don Grossman duckdon 99 Contour 63 F-100 4x4 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 00:20:41 EDT From: GMontgo930 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Dipstick Tube NEEDED In a message dated 8/5/99 5:58:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, danger > > Help, I have just rebuilt a 71 400 to put in my 79 F-150, but I can not > find > > a oil dipstick tube (goes into block) > > ANY help is appreciated as I am ready to put it into the truck...... > .......... > > When Ford wanted $65 (just the dipstick tube) for my 390, I quickly > found myself paying $2 or $3 bucks at the local salvage yard. Perhaps you > might want to try the local salvage yards? > > Danger > > IN years past I was able to make one from 3/8" mild steel tubing for my (at then) 390. a mild zig-zag bend and brazing on the support strap up top. Of course, I had a destroyed old one to pattern after for lengths etc. Worked great, hand crafted with pride in my back yard! George == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 22:33:19 PDT From: "Art Verling" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Wiring and other parts..... Summit Racing has some good links. I called on a nice kit with a fuse block.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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