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61-79-list-digest Thursday, August 5 1999 Volume 03 : Number 274



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers
FTE 61-79 - Starter No-Go-Go & Junkyard Fun
FTE 61-79 - '74 Supercab F-250 4x2 For Sale Locally
Re: FTE 61-79 - master cylinder
Re: FTE 61-79 - master cylinder
RE: FTE 61-79 - Starter No-Go-Go & Junkyard Fun
FTE 61-79 - Re: Shorty and Daves
FTE 61-79 - Re: master cylinder (solved)
FTE 61-79 - horns and bells and whistles
Re: FTE 61-79 - old beasts
Re: FTE 61-79 - engine trouble in ol blue
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: master cylinder (solved)
FTE 61-79 - Re: VIN numbers and cabs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Fuel System Repairs
FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders?
FTE 61-79 - '66 F-100 dilemna solved :)
FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power
FTE 61-79 - RE: Junkyard entrance fees
FTE 61-79 - RE COntour AC
Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power
FTE 61-79 - RE: E-Test Woes: Follow-up
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:To super duty or not

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:10:31 -0400
From: "Brad Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers

Guys, This troubles me that these are '66's The F350 was my "Donor"
vehicle I got my cab from and appeared to be an old air force truck from
Maguire AFB in Central New Jersey (not far from Mahwah). It was even
covered in orange stuff they told me was aircraft deicer (can you say "agent
orange"). Most of the holes are different for mounting the steering; heater
and so on. On both plates the body type is listed as 281.
Were the F350's cabs different that 100's??
The F100 was just my door donor.
I noticed the same "y" motor discrepancy in my '65 truck manual
Does Y stand for any V-8 as in Y-block?

f10ye833581
f35ye845654

>Both VIN Nos. correspond to 1966 model year trucks; one is an F-100, the
>other F-350. The Y in the vin is troubling, however; for that model year,
>the engine code should be either an A, B or D (240, 300 or 352 cid). The E
>in the VIN translates to these trucks both being built in the Mahwah, NJ
>assembly plant.

Brad
Almost mobile '65 4wd shorty


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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:34:22 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers

In a message dated 8/4/99 10:24:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bjones snip.net
writes:

> Guys, This troubles me that these are '66's The F350 was my "Donor"
> vehicle I got my cab from and appeared to be an old air force truck from
> Maguire AFB in Central New Jersey (not far from Mahwah).

The Master Parts Catalog for 64/72 suggests 66 based solely on the
consecutive unit number contained in the VIN number. Perhaps your donor
vehicles had their vin plates fall prey to the ole switcharoo. Most military
vehicles also had a special plate attached with identification data per their
order specifications. Are these on there?

If you describe the descrepency as to why you don't think these trucks
are 66's maybe that will help in this mystery---better yet send pictures.
AFAIK the cabs should be the same bw f-100 and f-350's. Also what engine do
you have in the truck. The Y code does not add up at all for either truck
but especially not the door-donor F-100).

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 22:06:05 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: VIN numbers

Oddly enough, my VIN decoding book shows for 1966 that a Y code is a 352.
Info is from "The catalog of Ford Truck ID numbers 1946-1972" by Cars and
parts magazine

Y code is for a 352 gas burner and code number 8 is for a 352 low
compression engine.

Hope this helps!

Later,

Stu
Nuke GM!
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>The Master Parts Catalog for 64/72 suggests 66 based solely on the
>consecutive unit number contained in the VIN number. Perhaps your donor
>vehicles had their vin plates fall prey to the ole switcharoo. Most
military
>vehicles also had a special plate attached with identification data per
their
>order specifications. Are these on there?
>
> If you describe the descrepency as to why you don't think these trucks
>are 66's maybe that will help in this mystery---better yet send pictures.
>AFAIK the cabs should be the same bw f-100 and f-350's. Also what engine do
>you have in the truck. The Y code does not add up at all for either truck
>but especially not the door-donor F-100).
>
>Stock Man
>1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
>1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:53:09 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Starter No-Go-Go & Junkyard Fun

The mighty Ruby sits silent in my yard. (Dramatic pause.) Well what
the hell? I've been having this starter trouble since day 1, where the
starter would work but sometimes had the notion to quickly disengage and
spin out before the truck started. Well finally the other day, the Mighty
Ruby wouldnt crank, click, or otherwise wake up. (This is after taking the
battery charger off a full-charged battery.) Sooo....tonight I crawled up
under there and took the starter out.... and gave it the old jumper cable
test.... which confirmed that the starter was in-fact still working in some
sense. I have a back up starter that I havent gotten installed yet. (Also
quality control tested with the jumper cables.)
I'm not sure if I have a question or even a point. I'm just annoyed
that some bitch-goddess has immobilized Ruby in a stationary position; much
like Han Solo in Return of the Jedi.
Im thinking maybe my starter relay is crapped out. Well, I needed
an excuse to switch the starters anyway I guess.

On a lighter note, I went to the friendly parts recycler yesterday.
I managed to scout out an Econoline with a 460. Yippeee!!! Now I can score
on my conversion oil pan and my high-mount alt. bracket. Some bastard
already took *my* power steering pump bracket. Ruby, your 460 is coming!!!
I promise ya' girl.
Pause...... tomorrow I return to the junk yard to "pick my parts".
Just for you faint of heart types, I get to remove an oil pan from a junked
van sitting damn near bumper to bumper with other fallen comrades of the
conversion van era. This shall be a treat. Hardy...har...har. I wish I
could drag my air compressor back there. Actually I'd settle for having the
physical capacity to lift a 460 up and gracefully set it on its flywheel.
Arent we all just silly dreamers.


Dale
Ruby, '79 Supercab 4x4 (on pause)


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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:53:11 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '74 Supercab F-250 4x2 For Sale Locally

FYI, just thought I'd let you guys know there's a '74 Supercab F-250 4x2
available for sale here around Columbus, OHIO. It looked fairly solid and
the cab looked good. I cant confirm any specifics on it cause I didnt get
outta my truck and look. I just asked the guy if he wanted to sell it as he
walked by me at the Gas N' Rob. He confirmed he would for "The $1200 I got
in it".
Any interested parties can email me for the guy's name and number.


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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:53:05 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - master cylinder

In a message dated 8/4/1999 5:10:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
tfreeman murphyfarms.com writes:


Ok, so I bled and bled and bled tonight. Used 1 1/2 of those big bottles
worth of brake fluid. Got some bubbles, but the last at least 6 pushes of
the pedal got no bubbles on each bleeder. The pedal still goes to the
floor. Could it possibly be the proportioning valve? I replaced the master
cylinder because I had to pump the pedal to get any brakes. The first push
would be to the floor, second a little farther up and then the third push
would be normal. I get a little bit of brakes now when the pedal reaches
the floor, not enough to really stop me though. I may try replacing the
proporioning valve tomorrow unless maybe I got a bad master cylinder?

Brett >>
I know you have been through the mill on this problem. I do not remember,
but did you check the push rod length? I just replaced the MC on my 75 F150
today and the instructions gave a procedure to check the length of the rod.
They said observe the fluid in the forward reservoir, have some one start
depressing the brake pedal, when the pedal reaches three eights to half inch
you should see movement in the fluid in the front reservoir. It you go past
one half inch pedal travel before you see movement the push rod is too short.
If the pedal travels all the way to the floor with no noticeable reservoir
fluid movement, the push rod is too long. Too long or too short and the
system will not work.

I had a problem for some time with the brakes being too touchy, I had to be
very careful with the speed of my foot or the wheels would lock up. When I
ran this procedure I got movement at about three quarter inches. So I
adjusted the push rod until I got movement just before one half inch pedal
travel. The brakes are no longer excessively touchy and it is a joy to drive
now. No more head prints on the windshield. Just my opinion but, I do not
think changing out the proportioning valve will help anything. Good Luck
Burt Hill Kennewick Wa 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:02:06 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - master cylinder

hey
proportioning valves never really go out in all the trucks i have ever delt
with i never had it happen. but yet again there are always first for
everything
travis
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:01:30 -0500
From: Jeff Lester
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Starter No-Go-Go & Junkyard Fun

On Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:53 PM, Dale Frenz [SMTP:frenz.6 osu.edu] wrote:
[snip]
> Pause...... tomorrow I return to the junk yard to "pick my parts".
> Just for you faint of heart types, I get to remove an oil pan from a junked
> van sitting damn near bumper to bumper with other fallen comrades of the
> conversion van era. This shall be a treat. Hardy...har...har. I wish I
> could drag my air compressor back there. Actually I'd settle for having the

Dale, check this out... http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.powertank.com/

> physical capacity to lift a 460 up and gracefully set it on its flywheel.
> Arent we all just silly dreamers.
>
>
> Dale
[snap]

Jeff Lester - La Porte, Texas
78 Ford E350 4x4, 460, C6, NP205, D44/70, 35" BFG MT's
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1978_e350_1.html
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:11:30 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Shorty and Daves

John LaGrone said:

>> Admission fee was $2.00

>>>Admission fee? To a wrecking yard? Now I have heard of everything.
>>>They wouldn't be in business 3 minutes down here.

I just think of it like admission to a cheap amusement park. It has rides
such as "climb over that truck to get to the one wedged behind it" and
games like "what did I just step in?". :)

It is a bummer going in, paying the $2, and coming out with nothing but
dirty boots and sweat, but otherwise the prices are good. It was a good day
the time I once walked out with: a steering/shift column, steering wheel,
good turn signal harness, headlight bezels, rear lenses, an engine box
cover, 2 vent windows, and window crank handles for a grand total of $25.
Of course, I smiled nicely to the girl at the office. And mom said I'd
never get by on my good looks ...


Danger said:
> Most of the yards around here don't have an admission fee, but the best
> yard is Pick & Pull which charges $2.00 admission. I'd rather pay the 2
> bucks than deal with any of the other yards because P&P is the largest and
> all vehicles are spaced far enough apart and elevated (on rims) which makes
> my job much easier.

Wow, that sounds nice. My yard really does pack them in, although they've
thinned it out a bit lately (by making these towering walls of trucks and
vans -- once a truck goes into the "wall", you can kiss any parts on it
goodbye).

I had to pull some stock drums from an old Econoline there and they have a
"no jacking" policy. One of the yard guys comes over with the forklift,
lifts the truck up, and then YOU stack old tires up under it to support it.
I don't know about you guys, but hanging out under a rusted van perched on
two forklift forks isn't my idea of a good time. The guy was kind enough to
keep the forklift there while I cursed and beat on the rusted drums to get
them off (it's a little hard when you can't get to the adjusters to back
the brake pads off). I got my drums and got out of there without anything
falling on me, so I have no real complaints.

- -don

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Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:21:34 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: master cylinder (solved)

Brett Yerks said:

> Well it turned out the pushrod coming out of the power booster was too
> short and wasn't activating the master cylinder. I lengthened it and
> whammo, nice brakes!! Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

Hooray! Another satisfied customer. We're all getting paid for this, right?
I'll go sit by the mail slot and wait for my check.

- -don

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Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:20:41 PDT
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - horns and bells and whistles

>>I have the JC Whitneys 35 sound horn on my truck >dog,
>>cat,
>>rooster etc.> as well as the wolf whistle.

I have an old vacuum operated wolf whistle on my truck. A few weeks ago i
was responding to a mutual aid call in my truck with 4 other volunteer
firefighters on board. I had the old beast wound up to 150 km/h according to
the cop behind me when we came up on some traffic.
One of the guys in the cab joked "blow the siren" I pulled the wire on the
wolf whistle as i was decelarating (pulling lots of vacuum)
The guys say they are going to get me flashing lights to go with my *siren*
now. (and the cop just laughed)

Don Jones
1970 F-250 ~FORDZILLA~


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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:22:11 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - old beasts

In a message dated 8/4/99 10:57:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jlagrone ford-trucks.com writes:

> >>but if we all had
> $30,000-$40,000 to spend on a new truck, how many of us would still be
> messing around with these old beasts! :-)
>
> Me!!!!!!
>
Me Too (or is that Me^2) WTH.

George
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:22:14 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - engine trouble in ol blue

In a message dated 8/4/99 2:05:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TWL1911 aol.com
writes:

> Hey all
> got a problem and its not good. i went out today and started up my truck
> and
> i pull out on to the highway and all of a sudden on a hill my truck starts
> sputtering and it wont rev out and basically acts like there is no spark.
and
>
> the solenoid started to make a clicking noise when i tried to start it. i
> got out a couple of screwdrives and crossed it over and its not spinning
> like
> it should now i talked to darrell and he said it was the altenator but i
> would like second opion on this any info is really helpful
> travis

Immediate problem #1 is a dead/low battery. That's why the solenoid is
clicking (chattering) and she's not cranking right. Need to get it charged.

Once the battery is charged, you can troubleshoot the charging system (to
find out why the battery is drained). The alternator is a likely possibility,
but dont rule out the voltage regulator, belts, cables, fuse links (and even
the battery itself) as other possibilities. Most chiltons have decent
troubleshooting methods if you're not real familiar with how. Otherwise I
(and Im sure many others here) can help ya out somemore!

George
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:24:16 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: master cylinder (solved)

i think don has a 2 hour minimum on his labor. ha ha
travis
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:28:01 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: VIN numbers and cabs

As everyone knows 65 was a change over to the new coil spring F-100 but
many of the larger capacity trucks still used the 57-64 platform. Most
noteable is the rear cab mounts. The 65 up were inside the frame rails and
also held the fuel tank plate in. 64 and earier were outside the frame rails,
F-250 and up trucks used this style thru 66. As always there are exceptions to
the rule, i'm sure someone out there has a 66 F-250 with the rear cab mounts
inside the frame rails.

Some of the other distinctions are the inner fenders and steering column.
The inner fender on the early pickups are rounded, later used more flat angles
and relocated the battery to the right front fender well away from the
firewall. The steering system also changed so instead of having the steering
shaft all the way thru the column there is a rag joint for the later trucks

As for the engine, it could be a late build 66 and have 352's The likely
hood of them being the older Y-blocks is unlikely. What engines are actually
in them? Does anyone know when the FT's were first available?


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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4


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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:45:21 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Fuel System Repairs

all eight injectors $1800.00, plus they replaced this sensor and that sensor,
fuel filters etc. another guy in there at the same time said he just had
7000.00 worth of work done on his 99. thank goodness for warranties.

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 00:54:14 -0400
From: "Sean R. Kerns"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - My Truck is Eating Master Cylinders?

Hi all,

Well, "eating" is a little bit of an exaggeration, but I had
the master cylinder replaced about 5 years ago, and now this
one is going (squishy pedal, pumps up, will go the the floor
occasionally).
The truck is a '79 F-250 4x4 with power brakes. Is there
something about these trucks that kills MC's, or is it just
me?

Sean
'79 F-250 4x4 429-4V, Cincinnati, OH

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cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..."


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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:05:48 -0700
From: Kathy & Christine
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '66 F-100 dilemna solved :)

Well, I no longer have the "situation" with my '66. After its
diagnosis, I put out the word that it was for sale, and next day, got a
call... got $50 more for it dead than I paid for it running. I'm glad I
took some polaroids of it before it sold, tho. So now, with the
proceeds from the sale, I am happy to say I'm driving a '73 F-250
2-wheel drive truck, with a perfectly functioning 360 and all the bells
and whistles offered by Ford in '73. The interior is literally perfect,
there is virtually no rust on the frame or body except for a few places
where paint has chipped on the hood, I'm its 3rd owner. 'Course, I
understand that with 93K, I'm not gonna treat it like a hot rod, but at
least 1) I know its history, 2) it was parked in a garage up until '96,
and 3) the basic things that go bad have been recently taken care of...
starter, water pump, carb, brakes. Body damage is only one crease down
the bed on the passenger side, and it even shined up nice w/ a coat of
wax. I like it. Even has the original factory hub caps. Needs a new
tie rod end, front bearings and kingpins is all. Now, to share a couple
things I've learned working where I do... first of all, Les Schwab (here
in the northwest) will make their mistakes right, good customer service
and all, but you're right... the out of round wheels would most likely
have been balanced as is, even if it took 3# of weights, had someone not
pointed out the problem before hand. Second thing I've learned is that
when you have the dual piston calipers, like mine is, it's hard to find
wheel fitment in the 16" and virtually impossible in the 15". It
appears that the chrome plated or painted steel wheels are pretty much
the options, the aluminum ones are just a little too thick (after I
ordered and attempted to install 3 different sets of rims for one of my
customers... it was a live and learn for sure!) I believe it's possible
(maybe) that Alcoa offers fitment, but sheesh... their rims are of great
quality, but I personally don't want to pay $12 each for their lug
nuts!!! Regarding tire sizes... yes, you are accurate... lowering the
profile requires raising the width. 235/85/16 goes next to 245/75/16
(with a little diameter change) and then would go to 265/70/16 to
maintain that diameter. Dunlop offers a touring radial, with a nice
highway tread, in the 70 series... 245/70's are quite a common size in
that particular size. I believe the BFG AT/TA also offers one or two 70
series tires also, but they're real spendy. Michelin offers a couple 70
series as well, but I don't deal w/ that particular need for that
particular tire often enough to remember off the top of my head. If
anyone out there is seriously looking for a particular year of Ford
truck, let me know... over the past few weeks, I've probably found every
Ford in this area, and that's a whole lot of 'em, and most of 'em are
priced quite well and some of them are even in really good shape :)
Just today, I saw a '66 that looked just like mine, with this huge
camper on it, the whole package for $1000. No rust, no body damage, and
the camper didn't make it sit low in the back... looked like I imagine
it would've looked in say, maybe '73 :) A guy walked up to me in the
local store, told me he's got a truck identical to mine sitting in my
yard if I needed any parts for it, give him a call. This area's a
pretty good place for Ford, I've discovered, so just holler if I can be
of any help to anyone in finding parts or whole trucks, k? Y'all have
been great!!!

Kathy
'73 F-250 Camper Special

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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:36 -0600
From: "Dolphin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power

Hi all,
I'm new to this list, and thankful it's here. I am a firm believer of the
power of the Internet for getting good information.
My wife and I recently inherited her late father's '79 F150. We sold our '92
Nissan Hardbody to give the Ford all of our attention since it has
sentimental value. The odometer says 87k miles. I don't know if it's gone
around or not.
Last week, we bought a 8 1/2' cabover camper to do the camping thing we love
so much. The Nissan was worthless in that regard. However, this rig set our
truck's butt in the dirt. We added 1500# overload springs and replaced the
shocks with Monroe Gas Magnums. The truck rides and sits properly again.
However, the little 302 is being overworked and will barely hit 55MPH on
flat land. Now, I don't know if I should drop a 351 or 390 in it, or go for
beefing up the 302. I was told that a 460 would be overkill, and the 5 lug
rear end wouldn't handle it anyway.
The 302 runs good, burns no oil (even with the load), has a 2 bbl carb,
stock (2into1) exhaust, etc.
I could add a dual exhaust system, electric fan (there is no fan clutch
now), better air cleaner, etc. Or go for some headwork, RV cam, etc.

Whadya think?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff

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So many roads, so little time...



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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:37:49 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Junkyard entrance fees

The junkyard I frequent in Richmond,VA does the same thing, the $2 is for
insurance, so you know you are covered for accidents that occur in the
yard, when explained to most people, they are glad to pay for the coverage,
plus with the prices at this particular junkyard (Any V-8 $99 for example,
just waiting for that cherry 400 or 460 for myself, they actually come in
pretty often in old big wagons.)

Now since my partners and I spend so much money there (we buy and sell cars
and parts) they don't charge us. Going there Friday BTW.

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
IsuzuG prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:27:10 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE COntour AC

My mom has a 98 Contour, and it's AC blows cold quick, even on the 105
degree days we have here in Eastern NC recently (especially last week).

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
IsuzuG prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 01:43:31 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for Power

Welcome to the list! A swap to a 4bbl carb and aftermarket intake plus a
good dual exhaust system will do wonders for your little 302. If you're
worried about emissions, you could go with an aftermarket exhaust system
with a high-flow converter. You also might think about a gear change in
your nine inch rear axle(which will stand up to a 460). You didn't say
which tranny you had, but I'm gonna guess you've got an automatic. A
four speed tranny will free up about 40 horsepower and would be much
better for hauling heavy loads. Good luck!

Jason
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:45:37 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: E-Test Woes: Follow-up

3 turns out for idle still sounds a little rich, which would make your HC
higher. My Edelbrock 600 on my Ford 400 (and most other carbs I have
worked with MC 2150, 4350 stockers included) need 2 turns out at most.

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
IsuzuG prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:15:45 -0400
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:To super duty or not

>Id say somewhere around 6 a week. I mean honestly, how do you bond with your
>truck if you dont get down and dirty with it on a regular basis. I mean new
>trucks are nice, and there must be some pride in your voice when you say "I
>bought that," but nothing, and I mean nothing compares to saying "I built
>that," Im sure you all know what I mean. I'll see ya

Heck "I built that" is probably the main reason I keep driving my truck!
But if I had a brand new truck I doubt I would be out on a 78 replacing or
repairing...gas tank, entire brake system, front axle, steering linkage,
steering box, leaf springs, bumper, box, doors, engine, transmission,
radiator, wiring, windshield, rear window, mirrors, gas lines, tranny
lines...and on and on.

We all love our trucks greatly but I think most of us wouldn't be out there
6 days a week with them if we didn't use them so much as our daily drivers.....


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