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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, August 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 272



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 390 Pistons
FTE 61-79 - Re: R406A, was something about Freeze12
FTE 61-79 - Genetic Mutations, or what they name GM cars after
FTE 61-79 - Stall Converter
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:
FTE 61-79 - old stuff, how sweet it is
Re: FTE 61-79 - engine trouble in ol blue
FTE 61-79 - throttle position solenoid
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:
FTE 61-79 - Wiring and other parts.....

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:

At 08:21 PM 2:8:99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 8/2/99 2:13:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>Bad4dFilly aol.com writes:
>
>
>DON'T
> think that is something ya wanna say right off the bat to us faithful FTE
> members. Some things ya may just wanna keep to yourself.....=) >>
>
>Careful Lisa, I recall you gettin your hopes up real high over a half ton
>Chevy before envy came along :)

Funny you should say that Darrell, my bro wants to build another 1/4 mile
racer..... 1/2 ton c-word pickemup, he has the big block in another c-word
already, and the bug has bitten him once again....

Guess who'll be the wrench again this go round??


Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:12:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 390 Pistons

At 09:29 PM 2:8:99 -0500, you wrote:
>William,
>What brands of pistons can you get through AZ?
>Just curious, because I'm shopping for 300 pistons once I get the same
>answers you're looking for.
>Also, does anybody have any comments on the Silv-o-lites?
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kb-silvolite.com/silvtoc.htm
>Brett
>Super75Cab

I believe 300's and 351's can use the same pistons, this may be
for 300cid racing applications, one too many Oat Sodas to be
certain....

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:29:12 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: R406A, was something about Freeze12

On Tue, 03 Aug 1999, John Strauss wrote:
>
> >John LaGrone wrote:
> >>
> >> I...I...can't control myself any longer. I did a lot of research on
> >> Freeze12 and R134a before I had my system recharged with R12.
> >
> >Have you looked into R406a? http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.autofrost.com/
> >
> > Looked to be the best substitute I found
> >
> I converted my '90 F150 from R12 to R406A about 2 months ago and it cools
> like crazy. A really nice "feature" of R406A is you can discuss any
> problems or concerns with the inventor, George Goble, and he answers his
> email promptly. I am looking forward to doing my '91 Bronco next.

Yes, and he's also pretty cool because he likes to set barbecues on fire
with liquid O2. It's quite a stunt. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ghg.ecn.purdue.edu/

Birken
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:53:05 -0700
From: "Dan Duke"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Genetic Mutations, or what they name GM cars after

>In a message dated 8/2/99 8:08:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dpearson ctc.edu
>writes:

>
>when working on my Ford Truck. Just think of the possibilities... >>

>but it could also have its drawbacks. Think of all the times your pinky
>kept
>you from reachin that screw deep in the middle of a wiring harness >under
the
>dash. 2 more fingers would be down right hell.

>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"


But, that's when you would use the hand with only four fingers on it!

Dan Duke
'70 F-250 Camper Special
Modesto CA






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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:32:55 CDT
From: "Daniel Hansen"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Stall Converter

Hey everybody, i have one question somebody suggested i should get a stall
for my new 390. So i decided to order it and they said it would sound
really cool. SO i did, and can somebody please tell me what the heck are
they actually supposed to do. I ordered a 2500 stall converter. So please
tell me. THanks a lot!!!!!

Endroman


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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:55:04 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250

In a message dated 8/3/1999 3:42:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Dave.Resch sybase.com writes:



Slight correction. The 351C uses the small block bell housing bolt pattern
(same as 302/351W). All the other engines you mentioned have the so-called
big
block bell housing bolt pattern.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

>>
Thanks, you are right. Don't know what I was thinking, maybe I need to stay
away from long lists of things.
Burt Hill kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:04:20 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:

yeah, i know the new 99's are neat and all, and i had a 96 f250 4x4
powerstroke it was a neat truck too. but what will they be like in 20 years?
probably not as sound as my old 78 f150 4x4 is now. my 78 has had a hard life
and its still got alot of hard living to do. i sold the 96 because i had to
take it in for repairs on the fuel system, repair bill was $4,500.00
so i sold it, real quick. i could buy a nice 78-79 truck for $4,500.00

jeff grant
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:13:57 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:

hey
yeah its amazing what this new computer stuff will do to us, my guesse its
just another way the goverment controls us like emisions control and gps well
thats my theory
travis
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:22:02 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - old stuff, how sweet it is

i've been working on my grandfathers 78 f100 swb, 302 2v, at,ps,disc
brakes,ac
the only place he ever drove it was back and forth to work from the time it
was new, after he retired he never went anywhere, so the truck was parked for
about 7 years, it has 92k miles on it.
he has alzheimers now, so the family wanted the truck outa there, so i went
and got it with the intentions of selling it for the family, since i'm the
car nut in the family.
i got it running and ended up building the carb, now it runs and drives
absolutely perfect, i have been running it some, i took it for a spin the
other day and it messed up on me, so i did roadside repairs, (you know tap on
the carb) it ran a little further and did it again, so i pulled the top off
the carb (flat head screw driver) i noticed it was running the bowl out of
gas, so i pulled the filter (adjustable wrench) sure nuff it was stopped up,
i blew it out tapped some trash out of it, reassembled everything and
continued my journey with no problems at all.
i'll probably have to replace that filter a few more times until the trash
is out of the tank, guess i should pull it to clean it out.
it was just a good reminder how easy these older trucks are to work on,
now i think i may buy it. people seem to notice a clean older truck.

sorry so long, just had to pass it along.

jeff grant
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 02:00:00 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - engine trouble in ol blue

Hey all
got a problem and its not good. i went out today and started up my truck and
i pull out on to the highway and all of a sudden on a hill my truck starts
sputtering and it wont rev out and basicly acts like there is no spark. and
the silinoid started to make a clicking noise when i tried to start it. i
got out a couple of screwdrives and crossed it over and its not spinning like
it should now i talked to darrell and he said it was the altenator but i
would like second opion on this any info is really helpful
travis
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 01:14:59 PDT
From: "steve potratz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - throttle position solenoid

Hey Dave:
The 400 in my truck,with air, has that solenoid but it doesn't function the
way you were saying. It is not spring loaded and doesn't move the throttle
back when energized. If you lift the throttle it will pop out then and set
the idle higher but it stays in that position until the key is turned off.
Is mine shot? It definitely is not connected to the compressor clutch in
any way.

Steve
78 f150 supercab 4wd


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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:20:22 -0400
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:


> offend your truck, but you already have by calling it a piece of crap. stick
> with a pre 80's ford in your search for a real truck >>
>Hey now! In a way I agree w/ ya, but that's just cuz my baby is a '77 LOL
> But ya gotta admit those '99 super dutys are BAD ASS! =)

Oh sure, the super duties are pretty nasty looking trucks but if we all had
$30,000-$40,000 to spend on a new truck, how many of us would still be
messing around with these old beasts! :-) But I just think of the price of
a new truck, the price of parts on it (you know something expensive will go
wrong just after the warranty expires) and the cost of insurance. I'm down
to only $32 a month in insurance on my 78 and even with all the time and
parts I've put into it, I'm still under $5000 on it. Granted I may finally
be going over that now that I'm getting some body work done. PS2 may
finally look like a truck now that I'm getting new box sides put on and the
rest of the box sandblasted and cleaned up.

Humourous story...I spent the last two weeks driving around with two boxes
on my truck. The regular one and one we picked up at the scrapyard flipped
over on top of it like a topper (doesn't look too hot but works rather
well). But since the donor truck for the 2nd box had been towed into the
scrapyard, the towing company had spray painted "Free Junker Pickup" down
the passenger side and "Free Scrap Pickup" down to the driver's side. When
removed from the rest of the truck and placed onto mine, what was left was
"Free Junke" written along the side of it. Luckily the other side
abbreviated to only "ap Pickup" instead of "crap pickup".

And it's surprising how quick you can get at shuffling 3 boxes between 2
trucks. Once you do it a couple of times, 2 guys can swap a box fairly
quickly. Mind you once I get my truck back from the body shop in a few
days, we'll have to be a little more careful in how we do it...a 2 person
box swap did involve tipping it on end and letting the whole thing fall...



David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada


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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 04:00:29 CDT
From: "PitStop Performance"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wiring and other parts.....

I am restoring and doing some mild custom work on a '71 F100 and I NEED new
wiring! Anyone know where you can get wiring for these old trucks?

Also, I ordered some stuff like window rubber a few years back from some
place like Dennis Carpenters or something. Is that place still around?

I can't find anything for my truck. I would look at any good parts sources
if you know of any. I need grille parts too.

Thanks.


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