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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles
FTE 61-79 - Re: Sonic testing FE blocks
Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Hardware
RE: FTE 61-79 - manifold/carb ID
FTE 61-79 - 351C pistons in a 400M
Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Hardware
Re: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles
Re: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles
Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke
FTE 61-79 - new 390 running, some problems
FTE 61-79 - Re: Strange Problem
Re: FTE 61-79 - new 390 running, some problems
FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-theft devices
FTE 61-79 - Re: bronco for sale (not mine)
Re: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles
FTE 61-79 - Re: AC systems
FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460
FTE 61-79 - I FINALLY GOT A CB!
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460
Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 for 300 swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460
FTE 61-79 - ac systems
Re: FTE 61-79 - ac systems
FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250
FTE 61-79 - dual-vacuum distributor
FTE 61-79 - Safety
FTE 61-79 - 73-79 crew cabs
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: AC systems
RE: FTE 61-79 - 73-79 crew cabs
RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460
RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250
FTE 61-79 - 78 ford supercab 4wd f150

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 05:58:52 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles

> I've been wondering how this happens. I too sometimes sacrifice safety for
> convenience, eg rely on a jack w/o stands (I do usually at least put a big
> block of wood under it), working on the engine while it runs in drive (my
> driveway is at an angle such that it would not go anywhere if the parking
> brake failed). In fact I hurt myself so little I tend to forget it's
> possible. I am planning on taking an emergency medical training at some
> point.

Safety is a funny thing, you can flirt with danger and get away with it
many times, but then all the sudden you get a good slam dance to remind
you why there are certain precautions to take. That's when time stands
still for a minute, and you wonder if this is it. You also think, what
is the person who finds me going to think? Working under a car without
jack stands will get you killed. I know that everybody knows it, but it
is the truth.

I also don't want my 17 yr old son doing anything stupid, and getting
himself killed because he saw me doing it. Wood or concrete blocks will
split, they are unsuitable for use as support. Period. Fords have a
tendency to jump out of park into reverse. I would never leave it
running in park unnattended, even with the parking brake set, because as
you know, it doesn't hold in reverse very well.

Yeah, I know, I sound like an old woman here, but I've used up too many
of my chances to be tagged by one like that. If I go out on something
stupid, I'm goin out with the 6 bbls kicked in, not layin on my back,
thinkin, man what a way to go ...:-)
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 06:12:13 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sonic testing FE blocks

> What's a 428 block going to set you back up in AK? Even if you find one
> for $400 would you be able to feel a $400 difference between 428 and 416
> ci (390 block, 4.05 +.030 overbore)? Same stroke, comparatively low
> RPM's in a truck. If you pick the best 390 block you sonic tested that
> would still leave you enough meat for another bore job.
> Boy am I getting cheap in my old age........


I agree with you that there wouldn't be much difference between a 416
and a 428. The heads and cam can be the same, you'll make about about
the same power(a little less torque, but less than you would think),
maybe a couple hundred rpms higher in the power band. The smaller bores
will shroud the valves a little, but you can fix that with a little
scalloping on the bores and touching up the chambers a little. The main
thing to me is if you can use the cheapest short block you can get away
with, you can spend your money on what makes it go faster, and increases
reliability. I'd rather spend my money on headwork, adjustable rockers,
and a 6bbl induction system, you know the stuff that makes it buzz. If
the 416 has the right stuff to hold together (and it will if you prep it
right) that's just money to spend on the go fast stuff.

I'd like a 428 too. But it would be more just to have one than
anything.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 04:50:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke

At 07:51 PM 30:7:99 EDT, you wrote:

>> How can I adjust it to function properly?
>
>This lil electric device is the throttle positioner for the AC. When you turn
>on the AC, It's energized and open the throttle a bit to increase the idle
>(Offsetting the compressor load).

It could also be the anti-diesel selonoid, which is where you adjust
your idle speed...

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:43:20 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Hardware

Stock Man,
Which engine do you have? Its an FE (352)

Tim

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:11:37 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - manifold/carb ID

Sounds like a Motorcraft 4300/4350. I have one on my 82 jeep Cherokee.
They are good carbs, excellent for off-road. They flow about 850 cfm.
The secondaries are mech, but there should be an air flap ablove them to
control air-flow. The carbs are just a Motorcraft 2150 with the
secondaries added on. They are fairly easy to rebuild, but seperating the
top and bottom is tricky because of the spring and associated linkage that
goes witht he secondary air flap.

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:17:57 -0400
From: Brent Cole
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351C pistons in a 400M

I remember reading this a while back about having to bush the connecting rod
to accept the smaller wrist pin of the 351C piston. I would like to know
more about the size, shape, material and fit of this bushing. Is it made or
can you buy them off the shelf? Just a week or to ago my main daily driver
started knocking and a rebuild is due (the complete frame off project will
have to wait). I would like to try this approach and boost the compression
a little. More info would be appreciated. If you would like you can mail
me off the list if the response is lengthy.

Thanks
Brent


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:10:59 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Hardware

Tim:
I have a 1967 F-250 Camper Special with the 352 cid. This truck has a
factory power steering set-up. I suspect its the same as yours. I'd be
happy to help you figure out your brackets. Just let me know.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:21:48 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles

This brings up a just the other day...

I have the truck up on a set of 6 ton jack stands while I am fixing the
front suspension, rear wheels blocked, in park, battery disconnected ect. Any
way I go to relocate the stands and jack up the front of the truck. Well I
only have the inside of 1 rear tire and the outside of the other blocked I
didn't really think about blocking both inside and outside of both tires. As I
jack the front of the truck up it pivots on the rear, taking the jack, stands,
tools and what ever as it falls two feet down and four feet to the side. I
thought I was getting to old to move that fast. The truck has absolutely no
front suspension on it at the time so the frame and the ground had a chance to
meet each other.

Even when you think you are doing things right you can still miss
something. I had the jack and stand and wheels blocked ( just not both sides
of both wheels) So from now on for me its four block, two good running shoes
and 1 pair of clean skivvies.

Laters

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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:04:50 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles

My neighbor, the fabricator, built a sweet set of jack stands out of
schedule "80" 3 inch pipe with 1 foot square
plate for footing. It is braced on four corners with 3/4 inch rod. The
tops are made of 3 inch wide "C" channel welded to 2 1/2 inch schedule 80
pipe. There are 5 adjustments for height (holes drilled) which use a half
inch wide pin welded to a chain.

These rascals are brutal and probably the most important safety device I
have in my shop. I have been using his stands but mine are on order....I
will make them soon if I ever get the truck finsihed. I will try to get a
picture on the web page soon of the jack stands incase anyone wants to use
it as a pattern for making thier own.

I think Marino will testify (we used them this week) that they are brutal
and strong enough to support a major amount of weight. If interested,
email me off list for exact specs of materials and measurements.

AND.......I will start keeping a clean pair of panties in the shop from now
on Don, good advice! 8^) hehehehe


Stu
Nuke GM!
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At 08:21 AM 7/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>This brings up a just the other day...
>
> I have the truck up on a set of 6 ton jack stands while I am fixing the
>front suspension, rear wheels blocked, in park, battery disconnected ect.
Any
>way I go to relocate the stands and jack up the front of the truck. Well I
>only have the inside of 1 rear tire and the outside of the other blocked I
>didn't really think about blocking both inside and outside of both tires.
As I
>jack the front of the truck up it pivots on the rear, taking the jack,
stands,
>tools and what ever as it falls two feet down and four feet to the side. I
>thought I was getting to old to move that fast. The truck has absolutely no
>front suspension on it at the time so the frame and the ground had a
chance to
>meet each other.
>
> Even when you think you are doing things right you can still miss
>something. I had the jack and stand and wheels blocked ( just not both sides
>of both wheels) So from now on for me its four block, two good running shoes
>and 1 pair of clean skivvies.
>
>Laters
>
>--
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>99 Contour
>63 F-100 4x4
>
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:03:40 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke

In a message dated 7/31/99 7:56:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
canzus seanet.com writes:

> >> How can I adjust it to function properly?
> >
> >This lil electric device is the throttle positioner for the AC. When you
> turn
> >on the AC, It's energized and open the throttle a bit to increase the
idle
> >(Offsetting the compressor load).
>
> It could also be the anti-diesel selonoid, which is where you adjust
> your idle speed...
>
Could be, but it functions on my Bronco as the AC Idle speed compinsator.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:59:45 -0500
From: JOHN E DOLSON
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new 390 running, some problems

I got my new 390 running today, and just got back from a test drive. It
seems to drive fine on level ground, but I'm having problems going up
hills, the truck seems to lose power and slow down going up them, if you
try to start up the hill from a dead stop the truck will not move, if you
try giving it gas it will die. It does the same thing in reverse.could
this be a problem with the automatic transmission? Also when I shut it
off it kicks over backwards for about a second, what causes this?
any help will be appreciated.

John Dolson,
Jefferson City, MO,
1976 F150 Ranger XLT

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Strange Problem

My 351C came from a donor 1971 Torino. The swap was
done in the mid '70's. I recently brought it back to
life. The motor is low mileage, and runs great. I do
have a roughness at idle that I attribute to the
valves not seating properly. I plan to have the valves
reseated soon. If a motor is fully assembled and sits
for a long period the valve seats will rust
(especially if the storage area is damp). A
compression test may not detect this because
compression testers store the highest reading and the
problems may depend on the rotation of the valve. One
clue would be a large difference in the compression
readings across all cylinders. Also they should all
get to full compression at the same rate ( a couple of
rotations).

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V

>I have been away for awhile with phone and truck
>problems. I have just
>finished a 240 6-cyl to 302 v8 swap that was an
>adventure to tell y'all
>later. Now that it is done, the v8 runs badly on
>four random
>cylinders,
>back fires when hot at highway speed, and has a
>manifold vaccuum
>reading
>of 6 psi. I have timed it, replaced timing set,
>checked and found
>good
>compression on all cylinders, watched the valve-train
>run like a clock
>with the engine running, and replaced everything to
>do with ignition.
>The only odd thing is that this engine sat in a crate
>for twenty years.


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:51:50 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - new 390 running, some problems

The first thing I would check is the float settings in the carb. They might
be screwed up and not allowing proper fuel flow on an incline. AFAIK there
is nothing in the tranny that would be incline sensitive.

Rade
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From: JOHN E DOLSON
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 10:55 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new 390 running, some problems


>I got my new 390 running today, and just got back from a test drive. It
>seems to drive fine on level ground, but I'm having problems going up
>hills, the truck seems to lose power and slow down going up them, if you
>try to start up the hill from a dead stop the truck will not move, if you
>try giving it gas it will die. It does the same thing in reverse.could
>this be a problem with the automatic transmission? Also when I shut it
>off it kicks over backwards for about a second, what causes this?
>any help will be appreciated.
>
>John Dolson,
>Jefferson City, MO,
>1976 F150 Ranger XLT
>
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:25:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-theft devices

The 'kill' switch will not hurt your coil unless
someone hotwires the ignition and even then it depends
on how long they leave it hotwired (maybe hours).
Again, I am not sure about the switch damaging a
duraspark module, check with a duraspark expert.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V

> But you are right about a burned up coil and module
>being worth
>getting your truck back in one piece. I am now
>wondering how long it would take to cause damage in
>case I (or my son) forget to flip the switch. A
>destroyed ignition module after a short time would be
>as good as a gasoline cut out, though more expensive.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: bronco for sale (not mine)

Bas,

I live in Morgan Hill. I was in that store today Sat.
7/31 getting parts for my '53.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V

>I was at the Allparts store in Morgan Hill (CA)
>today, "Ed" offered a 78
>bronco for sale, it needed a new rearend (provided
>separately) and driveshafts, but the motor & trans
>were still good. He said he'd take $150.


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:41:05 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles

"William L. Ballinger" wrote:

> > I've been wondering how this happens. I too sometimes sacrifice safety for
> > convenience, eg rely on a jack w/o stands (I do usually at least put a big
> > block of wood under it), working on the engine while it runs in drive (my
> > driveway is at an angle such that it would not go anywhere if the parking
> > brake failed). In fact I hurt myself so little I tend to forget it's
> > possible. I am planning on taking an emergency medical training at some
> > point.
>
> Safety is a funny thing, you can flirt with danger and get away with it
> many times, but then all the sudden you get a good slam dance to remind
> you why there are certain precautions to take. That's when time stands
> still for a minute, and you wonder if this is it. You also think, what
> is the person who finds me going to think? Working under a car without
> jack stands will get you killed. I know that everybody knows it, but it
> is the truth.

I have had some unit members that have been "KILLED" because they didn't use
a jack stand. He was a mechanic in the Marines and was at home working on his
car and it fell of the jack and crushed him. They didn't find him till a day
later. I used to do the same thing, but not anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- --
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:28:27 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: AC systems

Travis,
Don't convert to 134 before you first look into using Freeze12. Freeze12
has become very popular here in Texas. Converting to 134 is more work
due to the fact you have to change the lubricant, expansion valve/orifice
tube, flush the entire system, and if you're really a stickler for detail
change your hoses. The 134 molecule is so much smaller than the R12
molecule that it supposedly can pass through unlined hoses. That's why
you can now get lined hoses. You don't have to go to all that trouble
with Freeze12. Also, with 134 your system will loose 10-15% of it's
efficiency.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.technicalchemical.com/tcc-f12.htm
As far as replacing your stuck compressor, depending on which compressor
you have, Four Seasons manufactures a brand new York-style compressor
that can be bought for around $100.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.smpcorp.com/websitec.htm
Brett
Super75Cab

>Hey all
>i know this is off the subject of ford trucks, but how hard is to
convert a
>system that used to use r-12 to 134a i dont want to spend alot but i
have a
>stuck compressor is there anyway to make them unstuck any info is a
apreciated
>thanks
>travis


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:25:47 -0500
From: "MICHAEL HOLMES"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460

I bought a 79 F100 that originally had a 302 cid but was replaced with a
460 cid that came out of a 77 or 78 Mercury Marquis. Is there a way to mount
this thing properly? Currently it has a bracket welded to the frame through
the mounts. Needless to say this doesn't work. The oil pan rest on the frame
and has worn a hole through the pan. Is this engine to big for this
application and what is the largest replacement engine I can put in with
standard engine mounts or a mount conversion kit. Pleae help.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:32:30 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - I FINALLY GOT A CB!

Hey y'all! Well I finally got a CB in my truck, the best kind: FREE from my
uncle. LOL If anyone is in the Southern California area keep your ears peeled
for "Ford Filly" and forgive me if I make and newbie mistakes
"Bubblegummer" a new CB'er?> Well hope to hear from y'all soon! Bye! =)

*~*~Lisa and Emvy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:49:16 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460

L&L products makes adapters to allow you to put a 460 into nearly any 70's
Ford pickup. UNfortunately I don't have their number, but I am pretty sure
someone else on the list does. They sell motor mounts and headers that will
clear just fine.

Rade
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From: MICHAEL HOLMES
To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 4:31 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460


> I bought a 79 F100 that originally had a 302 cid but was replaced with
a
>460 cid that came out of a 77 or 78 Mercury Marquis. Is there a way to
mount
>this thing properly? Currently it has a bracket welded to the frame through
>the mounts. Needless to say this doesn't work. The oil pan rest on the
frame
>and has worn a hole through the pan. Is this engine to big for this
>application and what is the largest replacement engine I can put in with
>standard engine mounts or a mount conversion kit. Pleae help.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:46:31 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 for 300 swap

Hey all
rmy nieghbor is starting to get his place cleaned up and i noticed he has a
really nice 66 ford f-250 camper special yada yada. anyways this truck is in
super clean shape and i would like to get it problem is 1 it had a camper
sitting on the back for about the past 15-20 years and i think the springs
are shot 2 it has a 300 it runs good but its not nearly as nice as my 352, is
it easy to swap the engines and put that 300 in my truck and the 352 in the
other truck any info is apreciated
Travis
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:57:12 -0700
From: "Charles T."
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460

>L&L products makes adapters to allow you to put a 460 into nearly any 70's
>Ford pickup. UNfortunately I don't have their number, but I am pretty sure
>someone else on the list does.


HERE IT IS:

(972)475-5202
L&L Products, Inc
3210 Century Drive
Rowlett, TX 75088

Charles '79 F150 4x4 (460 swap)

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:18:05 +0000
From: "James Holland"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ac systems

>>i know this is off the subject of ford trucks, but how hard is to convert a
>>system that used to use r-12 to 134a i dont want to spend alot but i have a
>>stuck compressor is there anyway to make them unstuck any info is a apreciated
>
>As far as we know its on the subject ... :)
>
>The issue is contamination ... the two types don't mix real well ...
>absolute minimum from what I hear is : seals, oil, and r stuff .... but be
>sure and change that oil or the pump will do even better things ... as for
>"unsticking" them, maybe take it apart and clean it ??? dunno, never tried
>it myself ...

As an A/C technician I can tell you there is no way to "unstick" a
compressor.
Once it's locked, it's locked. There is actually a certain type of oil you
can buy,
but by the time you go through all the trouble, it's just not worth,
considering
it may not even work. The best thing to do is go buy a new R134a
compressor,
install it, vacuum it out (you'll need to find someone with an HVAC vacuum
pump),
and start it up. R12 is VERY expensive and not worth the trouble. You can
buy
R134a at any auto parts store and charge it yourself. Don't let anyone tell
you
different. You turn the a/c on it's highest setting, turn the fan (blower)
on high
and charge until you get really cold air. That's about the simplest way to
put it.
However, you CANNOT and MUST NOT mix the systems. That will only end up
with
another locked compressor.

E-mail me off list for more info. hollandj ldl.net

- - Brian
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:23:57 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ac systems

Hey
ok i know this isnt a ford product (its chrysler shoot me) but i went out and
i can turn the pump by hand and it will move but then after about a half a
turn it gets hard to turn then it gets free again, is this normal? the guy
said they had the r-12 drained from the system but it was sealed back up
again so what should i do next? thanks for help
travis
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: rich may
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250

I currently have a 1968 390GT in my truck and it is too much. I thought
that I would never say it. It puts out 325hp stock and it gulps the
gas. I was wondering if I could put a late model 460 in it's place. It
has a C-6 in it now. If you need any other info, please e-mail me. I am
desperate.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:18:18 PDT
From: "gene gardner"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - dual-vacuum distributor

Don't know if this should be classified under "Extraordinary Fords" but I
just discovered that the 2 hoses on my dual-diaphragm vacuum advance had
somehow gotten switched at the distrib -- in effect they were working
against each other all the way from Mexico (near Tucson AZ) to Chicago and
yet I never had any problems.

My questions: (1)Is the deceleration(anti-backfire)valve that is hooked up
to the 2nd vacuum line really that important? I bypassed it and I'm not
getting any backfire when slowing down from highway speed. (2)Will setting
my timing with only the primary (outer distrib diaphragm to carb) vac line
connected be correct through the whole range of performance? In other words,
is correct timing dependent on BOTH vac lines being hooked up? I just set it
after bypassing the deceleration valve and it's never run smoother ... TIA

PS -- I'm guessing this deceleration gizmo was a short-lived feature.
PS2 -- I just accepted a job in Wisconsin -- any Blue Oval men out there
around Green Lake?

Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher
'70 F100, 300-six


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:31:25 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Safety

>I too sometimes sacrifice safety for convenience, eg rely on a jack w/o >stands (I do usually at least put a big block of wood under it),


About six months ago a neighbor kid was pulling a brake rotor off of his
ch*^#.Instead of pulling off the rotor,he pulled the so-called car
off of the jack.His fingers ended up between the rotor and the pavement.
He was lucky,he only lost one finger.About once a year somebody gets
killed in the Reno area by a unsupported car.
Get some stands and use them.

>I am planning on taking an emergency medical training at some point.

Good idea,but won't do you much good if you are crushed under a 5000lb.
truck.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:00:33 -0500
From: Tammy & Robert Dolan
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 73-79 crew cabs

My interests are in 73 -79 F250 and f-350s crewcabs. Does anyone know
of a good site that I could find out more info about these trucks? Does
anyone have one they would like to sell? If so please reply private by
e-mail.
Thanks Robert Bismarck.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:15:43 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250

In a message dated 7/31/99 6:05:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
doom460 yahoo.com writes:


that I would never say it. It puts out 325hp stock and it gulps the
gas. I was wondering if I could put a late model 460 in it's place. It
has a C-6 in it now. If you need any other info, please e-mail me. I am
desperate. >>

Umm, unless your getting less than 8 city, dont even bother. I have a 460,
and it is one of the smog era 460's and although I am now getting a mid 11 on
the hwy, I only get 7-8 city, depending on my mood. And that is wth my
Jacobs unit installed. Before that I only got 8.5 hwy, and 6-7 city .

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:43:09 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: AC systems

Brent

Ive never heard of this Freeze12. Tell me more. Is it compatable with R12?
can I add it myself or do I need a shop to do it? Where can I get it If
needed? Ive got 3 R12 users, two are dead. The other just ran $500 of which
$300 was for the R12. Gotta do somthing here in Florida cause it's hot right
now!

George
'79 Bronco 400M & C6
'91 Taurus 3.0L & AXOD
'92 E150 5.0 & AOD
400M & C6 (looking for a rebuild then a home)

In a message dated 7/31/99 6:32:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bhabben juno.com
writes:

> Travis,
> Don't convert to 134 before you first look into using Freeze12. Freeze12
> has become very popular here in Texas. Converting to 134 is more work
> due to the fact you have to change the lubricant, expansion valve/orifice
> tube, flush the entire system, and if you're really a stickler for detail
> change your hoses. The 134 molecule is so much smaller than the R12
> molecule that it supposedly can pass through unlined hoses. That's why
> you can now get lined hoses. You don't have to go to all that trouble
> with Freeze12. Also, with 134 your system will loose 10-15% of it's
> efficiency.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.technicalchemical.com/tcc-f12.htm
> As far as replacing your stuck compressor, depending on which compressor
> you have, Four Seasons manufactures a brand new York-style compressor
> that can be bought for around $100.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.smpcorp.com/websitec.htm
> Brett
> Super75Cab
>
> >Hey all
> >i know this is off the subject of ford trucks, but how hard is to
> convert a
> >system that used to use r-12 to 134a i dont want to spend alot but i
> have a
> >stuck compressor is there anyway to make them unstuck any info is a
> apreciated
> >thanks
> >travis
>
>
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:43:27 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 73-79 crew cabs

You have a pretty good source right here. Ask away. My dad actually owned
a 76 F350 with a 390FE and a 4 speed.

Tom H

> ----------
> From: Tammy & Robert Dolan[SMTP:trdolan btigate.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 11:00 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 73-79 crew cabs
>
> My interests are in 73 -79 F250 and f-350s crewcabs. Does anyone know
> of a good site that I could find out more info about these trucks? Does
> anyone have one they would like to sell? If so please reply private by
> e-mail.
> Thanks Robert Bismarck.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:45:58 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460

Should fit no problem. Ford offered the 460 as an option in some years of
the F-100/F-150. Several people on the list have done this swap so keep
checking in if you have questions.

Tom H

> ----------
> From: MICHAEL HOLMES[SMTP:BCAKES1 worldnet.att.net]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 7:25 PM
> To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F100 w/mercury 460
>
> I bought a 79 F100 that originally had a 302 cid but was replaced with
> a
> 460 cid that came out of a 77 or 78 Mercury Marquis. Is there a way to
> mount
> this thing properly? Currently it has a bracket welded to the frame
> through
> the mounts. Needless to say this doesn't work. The oil pan rest on the
> frame
> and has worn a hole through the pan. Is this engine to big for this
> application and what is the largest replacement engine I can put in with
> standard engine mounts or a mount conversion kit. Pleae help.
>
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:50:26 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250

Give us a little more info. What kind of mileage do you get? What rear
end ratio do you have. My dad's 390 got about 8 mpg regardless of what we
did. I can get double digits with mine on the highway but I have an F-150
with a 3.00:1 rear gear. You may be able to do better with a re-gear.

Tom H
> ----------
> From: rich may[SMTP:doom460 yahoo.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 9:03 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 into a 76 F250
>
> I currently have a 1968 390GT in my truck and it is too much. I thought
> that I would never say it. It puts out 325hp stock and it gulps the
> gas. I was wondering if I could put a late model 460 in it's place. It
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