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From: owner-61-79-list-digest To: 61-79-list-digest Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #267 Reply-To: 61-79-list Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Saturday, July 31 1999 Volume 03 : Number 267 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-jection 4 FTE 61-79 - Lots of Go, Not much Whoa! Re: FTE 61-79 - Dave and Shorty's FTE 61-79 - A cry for help from the Darkside FTE 61-79 - E-test woes Re: FTE 61-79 - Strange problem Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio FTE 61-79 - anti-theft devices FTE 61-79 - There was a sad sight today FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio Re: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes Re: FTE 61-79 - Marino was here/progress on the 71 4x4 Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio Re: FTE 61-79 - Carburaters FTE 61-79 - Anti-theft device Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke Re: FTE 61-79 - Carburaters Re: FTE 61-79 - ac systems Re: FTE 61-79 - ac systems Re: FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-jection 4 FTE 61-79 - Meeting place FTE 61-79 - bronco for sale (not mine) Re: FTE 61-79 - Hood ornaments FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles FTE 61-79 - manifold/carb ID Re: FTE 61-79 - Lots of Go, Not much Whoa! Re: FTE 61-79 - manifold/carb ID Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke FTE 61-79 - Re: Sonic testing FE blocks Re: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes Re: FTE 61-79 - cheap 4x4's in georgia. FTE 61-79 - Power steering hardware Re: FTE 61-79 - Power steering hardware FTE 61-79 - welcome back Steve Re: FTE 61-79 - Meeting place Re: FTE 61-79 - Meeting place ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:09:41 EDT From: JUMPINFORD Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-jection 4 I tired to reply directly to you last night, but the e-mail wouldnt let me. I am VERY interested. Please Contact me, JUMPINFORD Darrell == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:28:08 -0700 From: John Corbett Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lots of Go, Not much Whoa! My '68 F-100 has been blessed with a 429 motor by the PO. It goes really fast which is OK, but I have to stand on the brakes to stop it. The brakes are firm but just not real effective. Could the PO have put too hard of a lining on for non-power brakes? Can I add a vacuum booster to the brake system? I just bought it and don't want to put it in the body shop yet:) jc == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:26:55 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dave and Shorty's Thanks for your message at 10:42 PM 7/29/99 -0400, Don Haring, Jr.. Your message was: If you >ever see a first generation Econoline or Club Wagon there, let me know >immediately. I just saw one parked a couple blocks from my house for sale--$800 OBO. It was purple. It didn't look too bad from a distance. I didn't stop to look close-up. I will admit I thought about it, but who can handle one more project? Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:33:32 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - A cry for help from the Darkside I'll never say a bad word about Ford brakes again. I spent 3 hours working on one rear wheel on my son's 79 Monte Carlo. If anyone out there in Ford Land knows the trick to bleed the rear brakes, please e-mail me direct. Sign me: Desperate - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:29:47 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - E-test woes Well Dave, I don't live in a non-emmisions state, but I do live in a non-emmisions region. You see Texas is soooo big that we don't all have to........ Never mind. 1. Did you change spark plugs? If you did, someone sold you some in the wrong heat range. 2. It is possible that one cylinder, maybe two, is not burning cleanly due to a bad spark plug, bad wire, loose plug, who knows. Pull all of your plugs and examine each one closely. They should all look alike. The oddball tells you which cylinder is not correct. 3. Look at the case for your catalytic converter. If it has any bright spots on it, the catalyst has been ruined. These bright spots are caused by excess heat. They are usually on the bottom. The catalyst turns loose of the grid and drops to the pan. I never have seen a FoMoCo do this, but the flat bottom GMs do it all of the time. I don't know what causes it. 4. Chaeck your heat riser valve on the right hand exhaust manifold and make sure it isn't stuck shut and that the vacuum motor is connected and working. These are all of the things I can think of at the moment. - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:23:39 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Strange problem > Now that it is done, the v8 runs badly on four random cylinders, >back fires when hot at highway speed, and has a manifold vaccuum reading >of 6 psi. You remembered to hook up all 8 wires right :) ?? Sorry couldn't resist ... :) I have timed it, replaced timing set, checked and found good >compression on all cylinders, watched the valve-train run like a clock >with the engine running, and replaced everything to do with ignition. >The only odd thing is that this engine sat in a crate for twenty years. what are you setting the timing at ? What about your cam? Stock or hi-po ? Also be sure you've got the firing order going the right way, and right for the cam, an HO cam will have a different firing order than the stock non-HO version (IE don't use a truck firing order on a Mustang motor BTDT) We had checked the firing order a couple times on another vehicle after a rebuild and couldn't get it to run right, found out that it was spinning opposite what we'd been told, switched a couple wires, fired off on the second crank. Also check the wiring, points-condensor-rotor-cap etc., one symptom of a bad condensor is random back-firing especially when warm ... BTDT too, had to limp over 30 miles to a Kmart where I finally got a cheap kit with a condensor, swapped in in the parking lot (minutes before they closed) and it fired off and ran fine. >Please help me before I have to file for divorce, and find a new job! > Yikes, hope it doesn't come to that ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:24:20 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio >stop. For the difference in top end and lower RPM I will gladly adjust >my driving skills required for the truck. I now have to give it more >gas to take off however on the Interstate it will definitely scoot. > Hey glad you're happy with it ... also glad its doin what we expected :) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:19:54 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - anti-theft devices Dan, Thanks. I did understand what you described after all. >> If you have a Duraspark I do. But you are right about a burned up coil and module being worth getting your truck back in one piece. I am now wondering how long it would take to cause damage in case I (or my son) forget to flip the switch. A destroyed ignition module after a short time would be as good as a gasoline cut out, though more expensive. >>I think separate switches in different locations would be better than a double throw switch, since once the thief finds the switch he will undo both. I believe you are correct on this assertion, however I don't want to go overboard and make my truck cab look like a 747 cockpit, or do I? Enough seperate switches and no one would ever be able to figure out the right combination, especially if I mislabel a few of them. Hmmm........... - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:44:12 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - There was a sad sight today >> I go to a yard (Dave and Shorties!)in eastern Pa (slightly west of philly). You should see some of the trucks that get in there. I saw a 78, almost perfect body, red/black 2WD extended cab. I'm like, "what the heck is this doing here". Even the interior seemed nice (although mostly stripped allready). The fenders and hood were allready crunched from someone damaging them in the yard. They won't sell whole trucks. Too bad, as they get some nice one's. Ox, I see the same thing down here all of the time. A lot of people drive what ever it is until it quits, then leave it beside the road, never to return for it. DPS tags it, the yard tows it in, it is never claimed, the storage charge easily exceeds the value of the vehicle and there it sits. Texas law prohibits yards from selling the entire vehicle in most circumstances. Some parts of the yard really break my heart. Then I look over at the rice burner section. :-) :-) - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:30:09 -0500 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio Garry, I'm gald the conversion was a success and yielded the desired results. >>I also did notice that the initial take off power was not like it used to be and when letting off the gas and coasting the truck does not slow down near as fast. I need to press on the brake a little harder to stop. Oops! Sorry I didn't warn you about the lessened engine braking. My Towncar has the EOD and has less engine braking than the truck, so I am used to it. On a related note, my new tires dropped about 200 rpm off at 60 mph. Well, I changed tire sizes, so now my speedo is off, but the truck does roll much easier with the new tires and freshly packed bearings. (I went from P235/75-15 to P225/70-15.) Those raised white letters look better and better every day! - -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:31:33 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes >> That reminds me of an important tip when setting your idle, throttle it >> back with the screw, then manually snap the throttle open and let it come >> back to rest, you'll usually find its a bit lower than where you expected >This is usually a sign of worn throttle shaft bores. I had one get >so bad that the throttle would stick starting out, making me push >a little harder, then giving everyone whiplash when the throttle >finally opened. Repeated 'snapping' on the gas pedal would give a >different idle every time. This is usually made worse by the >installation of a heavy-duty (read:garage door) sized return >spring, which greatly accelerates(!) the wear. > This is very true, but when doing the minute (that's my newt, not minute :) turns that are required to get the idle right where you need to be even a little binding in the linkage can cause the idle to not drop quite as much as it will on the street ... of course any binding is amplified by worn throttle shafts. I also have a bad habit of not having a lot of pre-load on my throttle return springs, so I don't have them stretched very far at idle speeds... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:33:32 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Marino was here/progress on the 71 4x4 >Tony needed a little vacation from the busy life he has at work (we all >know he does nothing all day long) Hey, don't be knockin his job, people will start to catch on after a while and then everyone'll want a job like that ... :) Glad you got so much done on the truck ... and it sounds like the bum got a heck of a deal too ... hope he remembers to put the wheel-locks on it so that no one steals them ... hehehe ... :) Oh, they got a laugh But look who got the last dance ... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:39:32 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio Thanks for your message at 09:30 AM 7/30/99 -0500, John LaGrone. Your message was: >Garry, >changed tire sizes, so now my speedo is off, but the truck does roll much >easier with the new tires and freshly packed bearings. (I went from >P235/75-15 to P225/70-15.) Those raised white letters look better and better >every day! That's interesting my "tire guy" suggested I go up one size when going from 75s to 70s and you went down one size. Well, as long as it works and drives well... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:37:38 -0700 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carburaters Is it a square bore or a spread bore? Rade - -----Original Message----- From: TWL1911 To: 61-79-list Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 1:54 PM Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carburaters >Hey all >i just recently got a 4 barrel carb from a guy for free. origanaly it was on >a ford 460, then they used it on a figure 8 car with a ch*vy motor and they >didnt like it because of the vent holes on the sides. question is 1 i would >like to put it on my 352, but i need a intake if anyone has a 4 barrel >intake for sale let me know. 2 what cfm is the carb, i think its a 600 but i >would like to find some one who could verify that. 3 i may not use it right >away on the ford but i have a d*odge truck with a 318 on it i wouldnt mind >useing it on that for a bit of time just so it gets used and doesnt sit on my >work bench. any info is really apreciated >Travis >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:46:18 -0500 From: 3granch Subject: FTE 61-79 - Anti-theft device Sorry if I sent this more than once. Experinceing technical difficulty here. :( Whats really strange is I am in digest mode and I did not see my reply but then I saw a couple of reply's to it.....Oh well.... What do you do with the wheel after you remove it. In a car you could lock it in the trunk, but I would have to leave it in my pickup cab or carry it around all day. >It allows you to remove >the wheel and replace it with a large red cap which >reads "GrantSecurity System". When I lived in Chicago I used public transportation and the truck usually sat for three weeks at a time. So I ususally put it in my breifcase (softside) with the faceplate from the stereo and take it with me. I also had a chain on the hood and lug nuts with a special key. I never lost the key to the lug but, a month ago when I got new tires we had to remove one with a chisel. They were thrown in the trash. Now that I live in the middle of MS, most of the time the truck is in a safe environment so when it not I usually put it behind the seat were it can't be seen. Even if it was laying in the floorboard, I do not think anyone would enter the vehicle to mess with it. Personally I consider it the best anti-theft device for our 70's trucks. So if you are concerned about someone taking your truck I recommend you look into it. Grant does have wheel less than the one I purchase, I got the largest one they make (I think it is 16") so I could see the instrument panel. Ronnie Rowton Braxton, MS 78 F250 4WD 351M NP435 76 F100 2WD Supercab 360 C6 (Parts) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:44:55 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear end rebuild and new gear ratio >>easier with the new tires and freshly packed bearings. (I went from >>P235/75-15 to P225/70-15.) Those raised white letters look better and better >>every day! > >That's interesting my "tire guy" suggested I go up one size when going from > 75s to 70s and you went down one size. Well, as long as it works and >drives well... > you're right Dennis, the math is off a bit, he actually went down a size or two ... narrower by a half inch or so (235-225=10mm 25mm=1") and shorter ... (I have a spreadsheet that calculates this part) 28.88in to 27.4in that's optimum of course, real life would probably have an effective diameter of 26 originally down to 25 or less, but still a change of only an inch or so ... if your speedo is off, its reading higher than what you're actually going now ... so you should've gained revs, not lost them ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:21:03 -0500 From: 3granch Subject: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke My automatic choke does not work and I want to put it back to original working order. I have a stock 351M with a rebuilt 2V carb (what ever the standard issue was for this motor, 2150 rings a bell). The linkages on the passanger side flop in the breeze, the choke heater tube is rusted and fell off and the vacuum deal which activate the linkage by the choke heater tube(I think it the choke pulldown). The tube which comes out of the manifold around to the back of the carb and attached to the carb with a rubber hose. One day I noticed air leaking from the whole which this tube goes into the manifold. I sealed it with Black RTV Silicone and the next thing I know it melted the rubber hose and the choke pulldown. I have a new pulldown but I do not know what I need to do fix this. Can I buy a new choke heater tube specifically made for this setup or do I have to get this universal part and make that work? Once I do that how do I proceed from there to get this choke to work? I dont think this is an electic choke. I also have an electic device on the drivers side of the carb which looks like, if activated, would hit the throttle linkage to increase RPM's. Its temorarily not hooked up. What is this for and can I check to see if its good? How can I adjust it to function properly? One more thing to include. I installed the factory A/C into a this truck which had no A/C. I don't think I will ever do that again but conversion to 134A was a success. I have not modified the carb (except increase idle RPM) to compensate for the A/C. What should I do to make this work better? Thanks in advance for any help. I do have the Chilton repair manual but I can't decipher what I need to do. Ronnie Rowton Braxton, MS 78 F250 4WD 351M NP435 76 F100 2WD Supercab 360 C6 (Parts) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:31:33 EDT From: TWL1911 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carburaters i believe its a spread bore but yet again i dont know it was made by holley for motor craft if that helps any and it does have mechanical secondaries also does anyone have a 4 - barrel intake for a 352 and also how hard is to install one. thanks for the help travis == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:35:49 EDT From: TWL1911 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ac systems Hey all i know this is off the subject of ford trucks, but how hard is to convert a system that used to use r-12 to 134a i dont want to spend alot but i have a stuck compressor is there anyway to make them unstuck any info is a apreciated thanks travis == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:42:47 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ac systems >i know this is off the subject of ford trucks, but how hard is to convert a >system that used to use r-12 to 134a i dont want to spend alot but i have a >stuck compressor is there anyway to make them unstuck any info is a apreciated As far as we know its on the subject ... :) The issue is contamination ... the two types don't mix real well ... absolute minimum from what I hear is : seals, oil, and r stuff .... but be sure and change that oil or the pump will do even better things ... as for "unsticking" them, maybe take it apart and clean it ??? dunno, never tried it myself ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:05:29 -0400 From: "Michael J. Kupec" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-jection 4 Steve, If you haven't sold it, I'd like the system. Do you know if it is complete? Michael J. Kupec mkupec http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://linux.lgi.com/~mkupec http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/BroncoMike President of Off Camber Crawlers http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /~occweb 1970 "Calico" Bronco w/351W (2WD... ti'll I get those new Warns!) 1964 1/2 260 Convertible w/PS, PB, & Power Top 1965 289 HP "K" Coupe w/PS, PB, & Pony Int. (Early '65, not a GT) Get in, Sit down, Shut up, and Hold on! Habaneros - They're not just for breakfast anymore! I live with constant fear and danger every day... and sometimes she lets me go four-wheeling! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Salas To: Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 1:50 AM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-jection 4 > Hi All, A few months ago I came across a Holley Pro-jection 4 fuel > injection system. I bought this system with the intent to put it on my '69 > F-250 390( currently 4v), but I have decided that I really don't want to > deal with it and I could really use the money to put into my 428 project. > Sooo... If anyones interested, its for sale for what I paid for it, $200. > For details e-mail me off list. Best Regards, Steve Salas > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:10:33 -0400 (EDT) From: jdklaers Subject: FTE 61-79 - Meeting place Guys: Who will be attending the August 7th meeting? Hopefully everyone can make it. Depending on who can come, we'll decide where. John - ----------------------------------- Deja Fu: The feeling you get that somehow, somewhere, you've been kicked in the head like this before. - ----------------------------------- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:37:41 -0700 From: Bas van der Veer Subject: FTE 61-79 - bronco for sale (not mine) I was at the Allparts store in Morgan Hill (CA) today, "Ed" offered a 78 bronco for sale, it needed a new rearend (provided separately) and driveshafts, but the motor & trans were still good. He said he'd take $150. The number is (408)779-0012. I might even have taken it myself but since I'm moving out of the country I'll have to pass on this one.. Bas == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:53:44 -0700 From: Bas van der Veer Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hood ornaments >> I never really thought looking at the rear end of a Bronco(donkey) was that >> "Cool". I grew up on a farm in Tennessee and I remember several Summers and >> early Falls following a Mule down a corn or cotton middle. I never enjoyed >> that. Don't want one on my vehicle. Okay but these don't fart :) Plus I am sure they'd properly disguise whatever bodypart would be considered inappropriate. Or maybe without those you would enjoy it even less? ;-) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:13:00 -0700 From: Bas van der Veer Subject: FTE 61-79 - safety while working on vehicles >>Sadly, I was born without any mechanical ability at all. Despite my parents >I'm sorry to hear that, some of us refer to that as being "mechanically >declined" (as opposed to inclined :) I'm not sure which would be more >frustrating, that or like one of my friends who we have nicknamed "Tim" as >whenever he works on something he manages to hurt himself, just like Tim Sounds like my father, whenever he works around the house he gets all these cuts and bruces. I am pretty good though, I've been working on and driving in this bronco a LOT in the past year and so far I've only cut myself once. I've been wondering how this happens. I too sometimes sacrifice safety for convenience, eg rely on a jack w/o stands (I do usually at least put a big block of wood under it), working on the engine while it runs in drive (my driveway is at an angle such that it would not go anywhere if the parking brake failed). In fact I hurt myself so little I tend to forget it's possible. I am planning on taking an emergency medical training at some point. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:02:13 -0400 From: j arnold Subject: FTE 61-79 - manifold/carb ID Hoping one of you older 460 lovers can help identify this intake and carb.Sitting on my bench is a spreadbore intake and motorcraft carb that I was told was off a early 70's Torino. Just started cleaning it up and found manifold #D6VE-9425-A3A. Now, off the top of my head, I think this means its off of a 1976 460 (since no 429's after 73), please correct me if I'm wrong. Carb looks like about a 600cfm, no tag, haven't gotten clean enough to find any numbers yet. Anybody familiar with this set-up? I'm assuming at the moment that it's off a 76 Towncar or Continental. If anybody's had experience with these I'd appreciate any information. stoney P.S. Carb IS motorcraft, not holley == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:29:07 -0700 From: "Danger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lots of Go, Not much Whoa! > My '68 F-100 has been blessed with a 429 motor by the PO. It goes really > fast which is OK, but I have to stand on the brakes to stop it. The brakes > are firm but just not real effective. Could the PO have put too hard of a > lining on for non-power brakes? Can I add a vacuum booster to the brake > system? I just bought it and don't want to put it in the body shop yet:) > jc ........ If you've got drums brakes up front and no power brake booster, I can see why your interested in improvements. I've always been a fan of power disc brakes, especially on a heavy vehicle like an F series truck. I quickly converted my 69 F250 shortly after I bought it, and have been very pleased. Without power disc brakes, I would have needed to replace the grille, bumper and radiator on two occasions so far. BTW:) I've always thought it was sheep that were supposed to be stupid until that deer jumped in front of me while traveling 70 MPH down a steep grade of highway. (whew... that was close!) Danger == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:31:13 -0500 From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - manifold/carb ID Your carb and manifold is off of a '76 3/4 or one ton truck. Jason == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:51:03 EDT From: GMontgo930 Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatic choke In a message dated 7/30/99 12:26:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 3granch > > My automatic choke does not work and I want to put it back to original > working order. I have a stock 351M with a rebuilt 2V carb (what ever the > standard issue was for this motor, 2150 rings a bell). The linkages on the > passanger side flop in the breeze, the choke heater tube is rusted and fell > off and the vacuum deal which activate the linkage by the choke heater tube(I > think it the choke pulldown). The tube which comes out of the manifold around > to the back of the carb and attached to the carb with a rubber hose. One day > I noticed air leaking from the whole which this tube goes into the manifold. > I sealed it with Black RTV Silicone and the next thing I know it melted the > rubber hose and the choke pulldown. I have a new pulldown but I do not know > what I need to do fix this. Can I buy a new choke heater tube specifically > made for this setup or do I have to get this universal part and make that > work? Once I do that how do I proceed from there to get this choke to work? I > dont think this is an electic choke. My choke has a manifold heater with an electric assist. It's been a while since Ive examined the linkage in detail (Since Ive put a 600 Holly 4bbl on it). Your best bet for most of it is to examine a good breakdown diagram of the carb and make sure the linkages are correct first. The tubs going into the manifold supply heat to the choke cap, one is the supply, the other is hot air to the choke. Ive never had to replace one but imagine the dealer will have one, or a wrecking yard should also. The choke pulldown is connected to a vacuum source on the carb also, near the pulldown itself. > > I also have an electic device on the drivers side of the carb which looks > like, if activated, would hit the throttle linkage to increase RPM's. Its > temorarily not hooked up. What is this for and can I check to see if its good? > How can I adjust it to function properly? This lil electric device is the throttle positioner for the AC. When you turn on the AC, It's energized and open the throttle a bit to increase the idle (Offsetting the compressor load). Their should be a stock connector (Single wire rubber one) near the firewall & AC/Heater area for it to connect to. If you want to check it and see if it works, you can connect 12v to the wire coming off the body, the ground is supplied via the mounting plate & hardware. The plunger should then extend out of the body a 1/4 inch or so. W/o the 12v it should pull itself back in. I can probably get the wire colors, etc. if you need em after I have a peek at mine again. > > One more thing to include. I installed the factory A/C into a this truck > which had no A/C. I don't think I will ever do that again but conversion to > 134A was a success. I have not modified the carb (except increase idle RPM) > to compensate for the A/C. What should I do to make this work better? Im interested in hearing what all you did to convert over to the R134. Ive got a 79 bronco w 400 & factory air that's getting weak (Still factory charge, never been recharged or topped off). I haven't heard any details and most shops around here say good luck, better off rolling the windows down. > > Thanks in advance for any help. I do have the Chilton repair manual but I > can't decipher what I need to do. > > Ronnie Rowton > Braxton, MS > 78 F250 4WD 351M NP435 > 76 F100 2WD Supercab 360 C6 (Parts) > If you need more info, I can examine mine and check out what drawings I have. I could even try to e-mail some of em to you if needed. Good luck! George == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:48:42 -0500 From: "Brett L. Habben" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sonic testing FE blocks Tim, What's a 428 block going to set you back up in AK? Even if you find one for $400 would you be able to feel a $400 difference between 428 and 416 ci (390 block, 4.05 +.030 overbore)? Same stroke, comparatively low RPM's in a truck. If you pick the best 390 block you sonic tested that would still leave you enough meat for another bore job. Boy am I getting cheap in my old age........ Brett Super75Cab >Hey there, >Stu is correct, I picked up a couple of 1U cranks from the guy in Ohio...they >were in pretty good shape, 20-20's I think..... >And at the time, yes, you could get a brand new 428 block for in the $1200 >range.... >But also, I've found a couple of 428 blocks for in the $400 to $600 range, >had to go 30 over... >They are out there, you just need a little time and patience in finding >them.... >CJ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:05:46 -0700 (PDT) From: canzus Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - E-Test Woes >wait, why am I the only one responding to this when I'm one of the few >living in a non-emissions state ? > >Lets hear from those of you who go through this every year ... > You know, in Washington State, some counties go through the smog tests while others don't, King County for example, does the smog test every other year, depending on the year of the vehicle. Grays Harbor County doesn't do the smog tests at all. I live in King, but register my cars and truck in Grays Harbor, where I have a residence. So no smogging for me. The problem comes with having to go to Grays Harbor very often to collect the mail at the POBox, Ocean Shores, every other weekend....... If you happen to watch the Northwest Nationals this weekend, I'll be in the stand just to the right of the tower on saturday. Just look for the guy that looks like a 70's biker.......SWMBO will be there too. She's more of a fan than I am.... Steve & the Rockette 63 F100 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 97 Contour, Mine == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:06:09 -0700 (PDT) From: canzus Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - cheap 4x4's in georgia. At 10:48 PM 28:7:99 -0700, you wrote: >> > >> This man is a god. We should all be so lucky! >> >> Darrell Duggan >......... > > I've often found myself drooling while viewing the page at >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/427sohc.html with thoughts of building an F >series truck around this engine. I'm assuming it produces gobs of torque >along with the massive HP? Anybody have some specs on this? > How does the term "enough" sound? Or as Bentley says when asked "How much Horsepower?", "Adequate" SWMBO's Uncle used to work in a shop that tuned cubic $ vehicles, one that he rebuilt was a 427OHC in a Cigarette boat. He claimed it was a mild performance build, 650HP, 585 lbs/ft torque. A big welcome back to myself, working 80+ hours a week tends to put a damper on oneself to get any e-mail reading done, or anything else for that matter. Spent the last couple of weeks getting to know the wife, doing the little things that needed to be done, catching up on my sleep for example. Steve & the Rockette 63 F100 72 Capri 2000, her toy 73 Capri 2600, soon to be 302, my toy 73 MGB GT Our toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 97 Contour, Mine Steve & the Rockette 63 F100 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600, soon to be a 302 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 97 Contour, Mine == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:20:08 -0700 From: "O'Connor" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power steering hardware Can anyone help? I have a 66 F100 with power steering. The support brackets are original and fit thru from 66 thru 70. The pump adjusting bracket looks like a lobster claw and bolts to the water pump. Another bracket (pump to block) mounts perpendicular to the lobster claw and bolts perpendicular to the block. Where the pump to block bracket bolts to the block, there is supposed to be some kind of hardware there. The Original Ford parts books don't show very clear what goes there. There is a hole in the pump to block bracket about 3/4" in diameter. I would be very grateful if anyone could tell me what attaches the bracket to the block. The block has a 3/8" tap in it! Tim == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:26:53 EDT From: TBeeee Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Power steering hardware In a message dated 7/30/99 9:25:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, theoconnors > Can anyone help? I have a 66 F100 with power steering. The support > brackets are original and fit thru from 66 thru 70. Tim: Which engine do you have? Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:22:20 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: FTE 61-79 - welcome back Steve > A big welcome back to myself, working 80+ hours a week tends to put >a damper on oneself to get any e-mail reading done, or anything else for >that matter. Spent the last couple of weeks getting to know the wife, doing.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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