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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, July 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 254



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Availability
Re: FTE 61-79 - voltage regulator
Re: FTE 61-79 - 534 Engine
Re: FTE 61-79 - Convert 240 to 300 possible?
Re: FTE 61-79 -Storing truck( was: Reviving a slumbering van...)
RE: FTE 61-79 - Convert 240 to 300 possible?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - RE: Jeep 360 no Ford content
FTE 61-79 - RE: Website for Clifford Performance
FTE 61-79 - 352 Engine
FTE 61-79 - Maintenance manuals
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Help
FTE 61-79 - Chunk/3rd member/hogs head removal
FTE 61-79 - Tire Sizes
Re: FTE 61-79 - what is this hole in my manifold ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Boxes
FTE 61-79 - Extraordinary Ford Trucks
FTE 61-79 - Re: Oil Pan for a 429
FTE 61-79 - bed liners and dash covers
Re: FTE 61-79 - bed liners and dash covers
FTE 61-79 - 240-300 preferences
FTE 61-79 - RE: Turn signals not cancelling
FTE 61-79 - Visions of Shiny F-1's dancing in their heads......
FTE 61-79 - Cleaning fuel tanks
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Boxes
Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 Tranny swap
FTE 61-79 - Thermactor? Whats this thing do?
FTE 61-79 - anybody have an idea, polishing aluminum
FTE 61-79 - Re: Extaordinary Ford Trucks!
FTE 61-79 - Steering Box
FTE 61-79 - Re: Reviving a slumbering van (gas tank)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Thermactor? Whats this thing do?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Extaordinary Ford Trucks!
FTE 61-79 - New truck
FTE 61-79 - Bronco Partz
FTE 61-79 - Manual Source

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:09:10 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Availability

I suppose they have excellent pills for headache in the US, haven't they.
If not I can send you one from Norway.... roflol.... yeah I know.... I
have boxes with headache pills to help myself.

Bill

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> From: Bas van der Veer
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Availability
> Date: 14. juli 1999 15:47
>
> >The 352 was used 65-67, the 360/390 was used 68-76. In 77, the 351M/400
> >replaced the FEs due to emissions regulations.
>
> Each time I read or hear those words "emissions regulations" I get a
> headache :(
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:24:20 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - voltage regulator

A battery will not reach full charging before it has 14.4 volts, and it
shall normally go up to around 15 a short time before charging ends. 13.8
volts is too low, and the battery will not last as ong as it should.

Resting voltage for a battery after a week - month shall be 12.7 wolt. Each
cell has 2.12 volt when fully charged. If you have a car, drive it today
and measure only 12.7 volts the battery is not at all fully charged. After
stopping the engine you shall see some 13-14 volts dropping slowly, but
under 13 and I say the battery is suspect. It shall take more like a week
or so to drop to 12.7 volts. Lower voltage than 12.7 volts indicates a not
fully charged battery, or a lousy one.
2.12 volt per cell is the voltage lead oxide makes in a battery.

If my regulator gave only 13.8 volts, I would put a silicon diode on the
wire from the battery to the regulator. This way the regulator will be
fooled to believe the voltage is 0.65 volts lower than it is, and charge
more.
In the winter this is very important to have enough power to start, and for
the battery not to freeze.

All voltage measurements should be takes at around 2000 engine rpms or so.
Not at all at idle and 500-800 rpm.

There shall normally be no problems with solid state regulators.


Bill



>
> At 07:27 AM 6/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Bas,
> >
> >Your volt meter appears to be off a little. When the engine is off, you
> >should read exactly 12 volts. When charging, the system should not
exceed
> >14.2 volts and typically should read 13.8. Older systems with mechanical
>
> 13.8 is what I last saw on the meter. The other three I broke earlier all
> regulated to 14.5V (before they broke). This is a fairly new digital
> multimeter, I would expect it to be fairly accurate. If it's more than .2
> volts off I consider it JUNK.
>
> I don't know if I have a wiring problem or what. Sometimes it stops
> charging, when I jiggle the regulator it is fine again. I did add a
ground
> wire and after that I did not blow anything up anymore.
>
> >regulators vary more than systems with solid state regulators. Solid
state
> >systems should read 13.8 always regardless of load or rpm if they are
> >functioning properly. Steady voltage is required for solid state
ignition
> >systems to work properly.
>
> Well.. When the regulator went bad, I have seen voltages from 12 to 20
> volts and at the latter my headlights were like sunbeams, my battery
> literally cooked (acid all through the engine compartment), my radio
> stopped working, the heater fan turned into a helicopter, but I never
> noticed any difference in how the engine ran. Thank god.
>
> Maybe I should try one of those solid state ones. It's just that,
> semiconductor devices are generally much more (electrically) fragile. I'd
> have to keep the mechanical one in my glove compartment :)
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:58:19 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 534 Engine

still be a cool reply to the question "whats under the hood?" :-) even if
it cant do anything,

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:16:06 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Convert 240 to 300 possible?

I seem to remember a post asking about what possible modifications could you
do to a 300 to create more power?... if a 240 head on a 300 would make 11:1
compression, could some head work ( valve job to sink the valve seats further
in the head / grinding a little to make combustion chambers a bit bigger? )
and maybe dished pistons lower the ratio to like 9.5:1 or 10:1 ??? seems to
me that with some port work and bigger valves would work great,,,,,might cost
alot though. I also saw an article in Hot Rod Mag where a old 4 cyl turbo
motor (turbo was NOT used in the buildup) from an early 80's capri or
cougar, pushed a pinto to 9 sec 1/4 times with head work and nitrous, so im
sure a 6 cyl could pull off 250-300 hp with the right stuff

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:21:57 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -Storing truck( was: Reviving a slumbering van...)

Bas you mention you were keeping the truck at a friends house while you were
away in another post. My advice is to have your friend run the truck for a
few minutes a week, maybe even drive it around the yard every month or 2 to
keep the gears and tranny lubed as well, my grandfather does this with his
Ch*vy van since hes not able to drive it, and he doesnt want to get rid of
it.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:31:50 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Convert 240 to 300 possible?

Seems to me (maybe I'm missing something) If you were going to sink that
much into making it a 300, wouldn't it be easier (maybe cheaper) to start
with a rebuildable 300?

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Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Convert 240 to 300 possible?


I seem to remember a post asking about what possible modifications could you

do to a 300 to create more power?... if a 240 head on a 300 would make 11:1
compression, could some head work ( valve job to sink the valve seats
further
in the head / grinding a little to make combustion chambers a bit bigger? )
and maybe dished pistons lower the ratio to like 9.5:1 or 10:1 ??? seems to
me that with some port work and bigger valves would work great,,,,,might
cost
alot though. I also saw an article in Hot Rod Mag where a old 4 cyl turbo
motor (turbo was NOT used in the buildup) from an early 80's capri or
cougar, pushed a pinto to 9 sec 1/4 times with head work and nitrous, so im

sure a 6 cyl could pull off 250-300 hp with the right stuff

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:31:26 EDT
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust

Hey all
i know your probaly tired of my exhaust questions but i ran into something i
never saw before and i would like any input on it. i met a guy who had a 65
f-250 with a 390 in it. he had 2 1/2 inch exhaust out of his manifolds and
then after his glass packs he upped it to a 3 inch exhaust. then it bends
around and comes out before the tires but it is pointed out like you would
have it behind the wheels. and it sounded real good to. if any one know if
this a good setup let me know thanks a lot
Travis
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:44:29 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust

>i know your probaly tired of my exhaust questions but i ran into something i
>never saw before and i would like any input on it. i met a guy who had a 65
>f-250 with a 390 in it. he had 2 1/2 inch exhaust out of his manifolds and
>then after his glass packs he upped it to a 3 inch exhaust. then it bends
>around and comes out before the tires but it is pointed out like you would
>have it behind the wheels. and it sounded real good to. if any one know if
>this a good setup let me know thanks a lot


Have you seen Mark's page ?
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/SandersonHeaders.html

he's even got sounds at the root page (www.pacifier.com/~draco) so you can
hear that awesome system roar...


Just my 2cents

wish

Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html
'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
'96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:48:13 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Jeep 360 no Ford content

Yes Jeep used whatever they thought was the most heavy duty at the time
(they later switched to Torqueflite 727 trannies, like in mine).

Now to the crux of the matter, while International and AMC engines share
bellhousing patterns, the V8 engines made by both manufacturers are NOT the
same. People often think the AMC 360 and the Ford 360 are the same, too.
(AMC V8 sizes: 304, 343, 360, 390, 401; International V8 sizes: 304, 345,
360, 392) Incidentally the AMC 360 uses a Motorcraft carb, two and four
barrel and mine has a Motorcraft 4350 from a 460 (it bolted right up) they
also use Ford ignition and electrical components, and Chrysler steering.

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
82 Jeep Cherokee 360 AMC
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
IsuzuG prodigy.net

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:54:52 -0400
From: Dan Rushing
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Website for Clifford Performance

> > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Daniel DiMartino
> > Subject: FTE 61-79 - 240/300 performance
> >
> > a while back there were a few people talking about the dual exhaust
> > for
> > the six cylinders. what about intakes? did ford make a stock 2bbl
> > intake
> > for the six? if so, is it compatable with all model years? what is
> > the
> > best bang for the buck without risking a "cheesy sounding" motor? i
> > remember someone was concerned about that. keeping my baby, el
> > corchino
> > (piglet), stock is my ultimate goal, but more power is always a
> plus.
>
> Daniel, Not certain, but I don't think Ford made a stock 2bbl
> intake for the in-line sixes. If you are interested in performance
> options, check out Clifford Performance at: www.summitracing.com
> I stumbled onto a used set of Clifford headers/intake maniford
> before I decided to rebuild the 300-I6 in my '66 F100. After a little
> research I decided to keep the six-shooter and have some fun with it.
> The engine was rebuilt basically stock except for a 294 degree Crane
> cam. It has a nice lope in the idle. I had the headers and intake
> ceramic coated. Added a 500 cfm Carter AFB 4 bbl., a high-rise spacer
> and a 4"x14" K&N filter-Mustang air cleaner. The distributor was
> converted to electronic ignition, MSD Blaster 2 coil and 8mm plug
> wires.
> The stock clutch/pressure plate was replaced with a Centerforce Dual
> Friction II system. The stock radiator was rebuilt with a 3-row core.
> Everything is detailed to look stock under the hood except for the
> carb
> & air cleaner of course. The stock transmission was replaced with a
> '84
> F150 top-load 4-speed with overdrive. It's geared a little high with a
> 3.50 rear-end and oversized tires, but that's great on the highway. I
> really like the way the engine sounds. Nothing "cheesy" about it,
> although it is reminescent of an aircraft engine revving-up. It runs
> great and has enough low end torque to make it fun to drive. I think
> you
> will be pleasantly surprised at what you discover. You may want to
> locate Tony Marino on the list and talk with him. He seems to have a
> lot
> of experience with the old "stump puller" engines. Good Luck.
>
>
I must have been brain dead. I gave you the website for Summit but
intended to give you the one for Clifford Performance:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cliffordperformance.com This is a good place to start if
you're interested in 240-300 I-6 performance options.

Dan in Charlotte NC
a '66 F100 stepside named "Henry Mac"
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:26:33 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 352 Engine

Gary,
Have a 352 in my truck and it runs great and pulls good too. Its a little
hard on gas but it sounds great.

Tim 66F100, SWB, 352, Custom Cab, Power Steering and Manual O/D
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:32:54 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Maintenance manuals

We got our manuals from Bob Johnson's Auto Literature in Framingham, Ma.
>There are 1500 pages for $75.00. This manual was for all 66 trucks
>including the big ones. Their phone number is 508-872-9173.

Here are some other sources:

>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pages.ebay.com/aw/search.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.osborn-reproduction.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.vintage-books.com/

Faxon Auto Literature
800-458-2734

Tim 66F100, SWB, 352, Custom Cab, Power Steering and Manual O/D
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:10:20 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Help

What can I tell you! I posted a response back about 2 months ago about
Ford trucks that wander. At that time, I went in great detail on how I got
my 79 fixed so it would track. Just take it to Dias spring in Erie Pa. and
they will straighten it out after the dealers tell you "that's how they are
and you have to live with it". You don't have to live with it! The caster
is what tilts the king pins and makes it go straight. My 66 calls for 4.5
to 5.75 degrees. Dias told me that on a ford, you have to go to the top of
the limit to make them track right. Beware, that makes them turn a little
harder when moving slow and turning sharp. Thats why I recommend power
steering on Ford Pickups. Even on my 66.

Tim 66F100, SWB, 352, Custom Cab, Power Steering and Manual O/D
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:13:25 -0400
From: Garry Bowling
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Chunk/3rd member/hogs head removal

Well thanks to all who responded...(Azie, Erik and Martin)

I finally got the hogs head out. I did in fact find those very thin
hard to see washers..I removed them and still the thing was stuck.
According to all the records I have on the truck the thing had never
been removed before. With a little coaxing from my floor jack and a
hammer it finally popped the seal and out came the lub. I finally got
it out far enough to clear the axle housing and let it rest on the jack
until I could lower it to the floor.

I will say this that is one relatively tough chore doing it by yourself
laying on your back. I will have help when it goes back in this
weekend.

Azie from what I can see the axle bearings look fine. I will probably
leave them.

I will let everyone know when the truck is back together and how it is
running hopefully by Sunday.

Also, I was very very glad to have this digest and the FTE web site
available to help out when I needed it.

Thanks
Garry
garrya bellsouth.net

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:17:15 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tire Sizes

Bill,
There is girl on the list named Kathy and I think she works in a tire
store. Maybe she will read this post and look up the tire size for the
66F100.

Tim 66F100, SWB, 352, Custom Cab, Power Steering and Manual O/D
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:15:23 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - what is this hole in my manifold ?

In a message dated 7/20/99 9:55:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Dave.Resch sybase.com writes:


coming out of your exhaust ports. >>

WHOOPS!

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:51 EDT
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Boxes

In a message dated 7/20/99 7:28:59 AM Central Daylight Time, ballingr ldd.net
writes:

> I'm not sure what year they stopped using the Gemmer box on the
> 4X4's, does anyone know?
My '66 F100 has one. I am still looking for a Power steering box that will
mount in its place...
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:30:04 -0400
From: Garry Bowling
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Extraordinary Ford Trucks

Bas you asked:
Anyway, has anyone here ever had a 20+ year old ford truck stolen?

My 67 F100 was stolen in 1988. My aunt still owned the vehicle but my
brother was driving it. He and his partner owned a sports bar and my
brother had the truck parked behind the bar. One evening he came out at
2am and found truck missing. It was reported stolen to the police. It
was found 3 day later abandoned and the motor stripped of the carb,
battery, alternator, distributor and FoMoCo air breather. It was also
very much out of gas. Other than the above it was ok. However, as of
that time the truck was never taken care of very well. Used parts were
installed. I retrieved it from a field in 92. As of now it is in new
condition. I do not like to leave it alone in a parking lot. I fear it
could easily be stolen.

Garry
garrya bellsouth.net
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:29:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Oil Pan for a 429

Does anyone have a Ford Part# for dipstick tube for a
rear sump oil pan for a 351M/400 motor. I am going to
IFS on my '53 w/71 351C. I have the pan and pickup and
dipstick. I need the dipstick tube. Just the year and
model will do, I'll let the dealer look up the number.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C

>For all you guys contemplating a 460 in your favorite
early vintage
FOMOCO
truck
>you can purchase your rear sump oil pan, dipstick,
and dipstick tube
from
the
>Ford parts counter. Get one for your favorite year
of E series(vans)
with
460.
>You also need to get the oil pump and pickup tube for
the same year
van you
>choose.

>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.

_________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:45:44 -0400
From: Brent Cole
Subject: FTE 61-79 - bed liners and dash covers

Has anyone tried the do-it-yourself roll on bed liner yet? And if so how
did it look compared to the over priced spray on job? How do you think it
would look on the floor of a cab? Also has anyone used a plastic dash cover
instead of spending the $260 for a new one? Does it look cheesey or should
I just save my pennies for a new pad?

Thanks
Brent


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:34:45 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - bed liners and dash covers

Brent Cole wrote:

> Has anyone tried the do-it-yourself roll on bed liner yet? And if so how
> did it look compared to the over priced spray on job? How do you think it
> would look on the floor of a cab? Also has anyone used a plastic dash cover
> instead of spending the $260 for a new one? Does it look cheesey or should
> I just save my pennies for a new pad?
>
> Thanks
> Brent

After I get all the wheels back on my 63 that is the next thing on my list
before winter. My plan is to go with the Herculiner stuff. My current floor
mat traps too much water and is rotting out the floor of my cab. The door
steps are a little slick also so I am going to do those too. That was about as
helpful as ice at the North pole.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:58:37 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 240-300 preferences

Dave,
Check out Keith Black's Silv-o-lite piston selection:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://kb-silvolite.com/silvtoc.htm
No less than eight different pistons to choose from! OK, which one?
What sort of head variations are out there for 240-300's? Any blocks
better than any others?
Thanks,
Brett
Super75cab

>Brett:
>The block is the same so you shouldn't have any problems there, but you
will
>have to swap some other stuff. The combustion chamber on the 240 head
is too
>small (would put you up to about 11:1 cr) for the 300, have to swap or
go to
>the airport to fuel up. Have to swap the crank, cam, and timing set
(different

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:21:10 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Turn signals not cancelling

Folks,
Having to move the column up is usually a sympton of the cab settling on
the frame, either through rust or shot bushings. The steering shaft is
attached directly to the steering box and frame. The steering column is
bolted to the dash and firewall of the cab. The cab mounts are resting
on thick rubber bushings. Any downward motion of the dash and cab in
relation to the frame moves the column down on the shaft. It just looks
like the shaft is moving up.
Brett
Super75cab

> Moving the column up seems to have tightened up my steering though. I
had
> about 1/4 turn of play before and have about half that now. What's up
with
> this and am I looking for some other problem by moving the steering
column
> up 1/8"? TIA
...........

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:02:25 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Visions of Shiny F-1's dancing in their heads......

David,
As a kid I always loved making trips up to Thunder Bay from my home in
Minnesota and seeing "MERCURY" tailgates on M-100's (especially '56's).
I've since moved from the Great White North (I'm referring to the road
salt) to the Southwest and have to admit it's a tradeoff. 10 years ago I
bought a '71 Jeepster with 8,995 miles. All the bolts were still shiny
from the factory plating. Image placing a wrench on a leaf spring
u-bolt, pulling on it, it immediately comes loose AND CAN BE UNSCREWED
WITH YOUR FINGERS!!!!
On the negitive side imagine trapped idling for hours in stinky perpetual
traffic jams in temperatures roughly equivilent to Hades. People
everywhere always. When it's vacation time people down here think I'm
crazy for going 'home' instead of CanCun but I head straight for the
clean air, lakes, forests, and seclusion of the Great White North
whenever I get a chance.
But life is too short to waste it on a rustbucket. Treat yourself to a
southwest truck next time. Once you realize it'll cost you less in the
long run you'll kick yourself for not doing it sooner.
Brett
Super75cab
>Besides, it gives us up herein road salt land the dream of magical
place
>where the scrap yards are (supposedly) full of rust-free old Ford
trucks...
>David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
>"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4
>Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:36:19 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cleaning fuel tanks

Rich,
You want cheap? Pull the tanks, removing the pickup/sending unit
assemblies, dump a gallon of cheap lacquer thinner ($7.00) inside and
soak/slosh thoroughly. Pay attention to the pickup tube and fuel strainer
sock and make sure you remove all varnish..
Brett
Super75cab
>The carb dip cleaned that crud in the float bowl pretty good. I was
>thinking of dumping a can of that stuff in each tank (out of the vehicle
of
>course), letting it sit for a bit and then flushing it out. What do you
>think? Any better ideas short of buying new tanks? If I go new, I'll
>probably have to replace one at a time. Any good sources for tanks?
>Thanks in advance...
>Rich
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:02:55 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust


then after his glass packs he upped it to a 3 inch exhaust.>>


This is the same concept used to make the "torque-step" headers,,, it will
reduce back pressure more than a pipe of the same diameter the whole length,
wether or not you need backpressure reduced this much or not i cannot say, if
you reduce it too much it will reduce off the line torque, at least thats
what i think

Ian
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:03:55 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Boxes

In a message dated 99-07-20 15:11:10 EDT, you write:


I was looking at the neighbors 65 when I made the statement about the
rag joint. I assumed it would be very similar to a 64,... silly me


Danger
>>

We'll forgive you this time .......hehehehe
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:34:00 -0700
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 Tranny swap

I changed my 3 speed to a toploader 3+1... its just as Bill says...
everything will mount right up and the driveshaft has to be shortened
and balanced. If you are interested I have a 3 speed that was rebuilt
about 10K ago.
Mike in Burien

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:43:22 EDT
From: Spike188 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thermactor? Whats this thing do?

Sadly, I was born without any mechanical ability at all. Despite my parents
best efforts, it was clear that I was "mechanically disabled." My wife has
prohibited me from fixing things around the house and forbid me from using
hand tools around the children.
But, in an effort to better myself, to reclaim my masculinity and to prevent
my son from suffering as I have, I'm trying to learn about my 67 F100. And
so, I've come to the masters, the wise men of the FTE 61-79 list for
information.
My question:
What is the Thermactor pump. Is it the round canister that I see on the
right side of my stock California 352? I see that it has tubes of some sort
running down the sides of the valve covers. Just wondering what the function
of this unit is and does it require any particular maintenance?
Thank in advance
Spike
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:56:30 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - anybody have an idea, polishing aluminum

the front grille shell on both my 78's are pretty dull and also the side
molding, does anyone have a way to polish the aluminum pieces to make them
look good again?
i've tried some of the aluminum polishes but nothing has helped yet.

also still looking for door cups for armrest on 78.

and i still have the 351 w performance parts for sale,

thanks, jeff grant
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:27:16 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Extaordinary Ford Trucks!

Bas van der Veer said:
> Anyway, has anyone here ever had a 20+ year old ford truck stolen?

No, but a few months ago, some neighborhood kids were climbing on the front
of my van. One kid was standing on the lower edge of the windshield and was
swatting at tree with a stick. I saw them out my window and yelled at them.
I figured out later that the stick was actually my antenna. >:^[

No respect at all!

Speaking of antenna, I was thinking about running a new antenna *inside*
the van. Not actually in the passenger compartment, but in that caverous
space under the floor, where the belly pan is. I would like to weld up the
original antenna hole (and the other one for the aftermarket POS that
stolen) just to clean the front up a bit. Does anyone see why this wouldn't
work? Interference, etc?

- -don

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:32:58 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Box

Bas van der Veer said:

>>and they told me that the gearbox needed to be adjusted because it does
>>not automatically return to center. they told me it was "a simple
>>screwdriver adjustment" but of course, neglected to show me where to
>>find the "simple screw".

> The only simple screw adjustment I know of is to mesh the wormgear inside
> to take up the play it develops as it wears out. Well, simple.. if you do
> it wrong you can also screw your whole box, which is not good ;) That
> actually happened to me. My mechanic screwed it until the play was gone,
> but that was more than my 22 year old box could take.

The other adjustment, which should be made first, is the pre-load nut. It's
the big nut (about 3" wide and flat) at the top of the box, where the
steering shaft comes out. If the box is loose, the pre-load must be
tightened a bit. This takes up the slack when you first start turning the
wheel. It is turned by tapping a hammer to a punch or chisel on one of the
castilations (sp?) on the nut. A little goes a long way. When I did it, I
only turned the nut about 5 degrees and then it was too tight. If you just
crank down the worm screw (in the side of the box), it can wear out the
worm too fast, as Bas attests to.

- -don

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:42:02 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Reviving a slumbering van (gas tank)

William S Hart said:

>>The carb dip cleaned that crud in the float bowl pretty good. I was
>>thinking of dumping a can of that stuff in each tank (out of the vehicle of
>>course), letting it sit for a bit and then flushing it out. What do you
>>think? Any better ideas short of buying new tanks? If I go new, I'll
>>probably have to replace one at a time. Any good sources for tanks?

> You could just put in a clear filter so you can see when its clogged ...
> but pulling them out and cleaning them yourself may do just as well as
> anything ... might just try the filter first, if it clogs up right away
> then possibly look at changing the tanks or cleaning htem, but if it lasts
> for a while, just keep an eye on it and change it when its full ...


I agree with Wish on this. No sense pulling the tanks unless you know for
sure that it's really bad back there. You are right -- a new tank is about
the same price as a recondition job on one, so if you can get a new tank,
that's probably a better deal. In the case of my '66 van, though, the tanks
are obsolete, so no choice there. Although I'm told the big Mustang tanks
will fit with no problem.

Anyway, just run a clear glass filter before the carb (or before the fuel
pump if you're really worried about it). Keep an eye on it and if it keeps
clogging, consider cleaning or replacing the tanks. My Falcon Futura had
some real serious sediment problems, so I run two filters -- the glass one
before the pump (since it's a brand new pump) and a regular one before the
carb. I've had to clean the filter a few times, but the problem doesn't
seem to be recurring, so I'm going to let it go until it gets bad again.
Consider the fact that you might need a new sending unit if you replace the
tank. Like others here, I'd rather take a few precautions but not actually
fix it unless it's broken.

- -don

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:18:21 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Thermactor? Whats this thing do?

Thermactor is ford's name for the fresh air injection system, also called
the "smog pump". Basically what it does is pump fresh air into the exhuast
stream to help burn unburnt fuel in the exhaust. As far as I know the
system is only used in conjunction with a catalytic converter, but I could
be wrong. Depending on the emissions regs in your area you may or may not
want to tear it out or keep it. The system has almost zero effect on
horsepower, and on an older vehicle it probably doesnt do much to help
emissions either.

Rade
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From: Spike188 aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 8:45 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thermactor? Whats this thing do?


>Sadly, I was born without any mechanical ability at all. Despite my
parents
>best efforts, it was clear that I was "mechanically disabled." My wife has
>prohibited me from fixing things around the house and forbid me from using
>hand tools around the children.
>But, in an effort to better myself, to reclaim my masculinity and to
prevent
>my son from suffering as I have, I'm trying to learn about my 67 F100. And
>so, I've come to the masters, the wise men of the FTE 61-79 list for
>information.
>My question:
>What is the Thermactor pump. Is it the round canister that I see on the
>right side of my stock California 352? I see that it has tubes of some
sort
>running down the sides of the valve covers. Just wondering what the
function
>of this unit is and does it require any particular maintenance?
>Thank in advance
>Spike
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:12:33 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Extaordinary Ford Trucks!

I'd think you'd get better reception if you ran it under the headliner, being
further up and away from most of the moving parts, i know that in my parents
ford van you can hear a high pitched whine in the signal that is somehow
linked with the engine RPMs, the whine has a higher pitch to it with more
rpm's and it "shifts" with the transmission, weird huh?

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:14:00 -0700
From: MC
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New truck

Hiya fellow Ford fans....

Just bought me a new truck yesterday. I wasn't really looking for a new
truck, but when a buddy of mine told me about this at work, I just had
to go and look. The truck is a 1976 F150 4x4, 360/390, NP435, NP205,
power steering, power brakes, disc brakes up front, dual exhaust, NO
tank behind the seat. Not sure what the gearing is because tags are
missing on both pumpkins. I'm not sure how much of this is standard, but
for the price, I couldn't pass it up (This is all stuff I had planned to
do to my 1970 F100 4x4). The floorboards are solid, doors are starting
to rust in the bottom front, bed needs replaced, but a friend of mine
has one already sanded down and ready for painting that I can get real
cheap. The guy I bought it from also threw in a spare front clip,
another passenger fender besides that, 2 spare rear axles, 2 spare front
right axles, and another set of exhaust manifolds. All of this for
$1,200. Oh, yea, it also has a set of BFG A/T's with at least 80% tread
on new white spoke rims.

Now all I have to do is figure out what to do with all these trucks! I
now have 4 4x4's. One is a parts truck, and 3 are driveable. I figure
I'll finish stripping out my '69 and get that hauled off, but the rest
I'm not sure about. I don't know whether I want to keep the '70, or take
the lift, tires, and engine out of that and put them in the new truck,
or build them both up, or, or oh, I dunno.....

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