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61-79-list-digest Friday, July 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 248



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Brakes on 1979
FTE 61-79 - Hard Shiftin'
FTE 61-79 - First start after a rebuild ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Wooo Hoooo!!!, another reason 78's Bronco's RULE!!!!
FTE 61-79 - 300 split exhausts vs. headers.
[none]
Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 split exhausts vs. headers.
FTE 61-79 - Re:
Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
FTE 61-79 - Engine swap (460 for 302)
Re: FTE 61-79 - fusible links
FTE 61-79 - Re: Submerged
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 534 engine
FTE 61-79 - Grinding gears
FTE 61-79 - stuck dist

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:43:10 EDT
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brakes on 1979

Guys (and Gals)...I am at wits end with my brakes on my 1979 Bronco. It has
F-250 brakes (8 Lug Dana 44 Front & 8 Lug Dana 60 Rear) and a 1979 F-350 2wd
Brake booster/master cylinder assembly. My problem is that the proportioning
valve keeps sticking the pin out when I step on the brakes. I had someone
step on the brakes when I was on a creaper to see this happen. I don't know
if that is normal...is it?? I jacked the rear up and had my friend step on
the brakes.....and I could not turn the rear tires at all. He let off and it
spun freely. Same with the front brakes...they work perfectly. The brakes
are fine until about halfway down....then the breaks get hard. The brakes do
not lock up at all....they used to work perfect. I have done countless brake
jobs and am clueless about whats going on. Hope someone can help me!!!
Thanks In Advance!!!! Wayne Grabley
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:07:08 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hard Shiftin'

> >My 4 spd. shifts smooth as butter,except for when
> >downshifting from 4th to 3rd.It won't go without grinding.
> >Clutch?Syncros?(It's not operator error:)
>
> What year is your truck? Is your tranny a T-18?

What kind of oil are you running? One thing you might check is if the
trans is over-full. If the oil is too slick (or thick) it won't spin up
the engaging gear up fast enough to prevent a clash. If the trans is
too full, the hydraulic ram action of oil under pressure will act on any
side play in your bearings and will cause the syncros/gears to not mate
properly.

You could also have a bent shift fork, or loose bearings/ shafts.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:16:29 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - First start after a rebuild ?

> Okay, I am almost done with my 1st engine rebuild. When I get ready to TRY
> and start it for the 1st time, I was going to disconnect the coil wire and
> just let it crank for awhile to get the oil flowing....is this a good idea ?
> Once started...I am supposed to keep idle around 2000 ? any help is
> appreciated....
> BTW, the engine is a 1971 400 that I am putting in a 79 F-150. I have had
> all the parts cleaned machined etc, put in a Comp Cams 282H cam, Edelbrock
> True Roller Chain, Edelbrock Performer 400 manifold, Edelbrock 600 CFM
> carb, put in a 79 distributor so it is electronic ignition.......and of
> course all the appropriate chrome....(valve covers, dipstick etc...) Now I
> just sure hope it runs

There's an article on the FTE site about running in a new engine, it
might help.

Always crank the engine until you have oil pressure at the gauge, 30
seconds at a time (with a minute between cranks) so you don't hurt the
starter.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:11:27 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Wooo Hoooo!!!, another reason 78's Bronco's RULE!!!!

In a message dated 7/15/99 11:49:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
luxjo thecore.com writes:


with 460's were over 6000 lb GVWR. >>

Mines 10k lb GVWR, and its not even a dually!

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:36:23 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 split exhausts vs. headers.

Folks,
Which would produce better mileage and pulling power; a set of headers or
a set of the late model factory split exhaust manifolds on a 300 six?
This would most likely be used with an Offie dual port intake and a small
four barrel carb (Q-jet maybe?) . Any cam testimonials/recommendations?
I'm on a hardware scrounge kick.
Thanks,
Brett
'75 F100 SuperCab
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:25:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: chinacat
Subject: [none]

im getting married sat. wish me luck
see ya in a week!


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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:51:38 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 split exhausts vs. headers.

Brett,

I've tried both, and to make it short and quick-- I really prefer the dual
manifolds off of a fuelie model. The clifford intake, Carter 600 carb, and
dual manifolds run circles around the dual hedders that I had on it. Not to
mention with the manifolds, I'm still "technically" E-check passable for the
visual, and never had a problem with the gaskets sealing either.. A good
set of manifolds should run you about $75 bucks for both out of a local
junkyard. 8-)

Tony
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"Brett L. Habben" wrote:

> Folks,
> Which would produce better mileage and pulling power; a set of headers or
> a set of the late model factory split exhaust manifolds on a 300 six?
> This would most likely be used with an Offie dual port intake and a small
> four barrel carb (Q-jet maybe?) . Any cam testimonials/recommendations?
> I'm on a hardware scrounge kick.
> Thanks,
> Brett
> '75 F100 SuperCab
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:52:11 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8-)

Tony


chinacat wrote:

> im getting married sat. wish me luck
> see ya in a week!
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:27:51 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

dome light

Ian
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: younkers auracom.com (R)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap (460 for 302)

The truck is a 1978 F-150 short wheel base 4wd. Originally the engine was a
300 I-6, but that had been replaced by a 302 when I purchased the truck. A
friend of mine has a 460 currently residing in an old Lincoln and I'm
wondering how difficult a swap this would be. I'm told that the motor
mounts are different as is the bell housing. What else should I be aware of
before I consider this undertaking.

He also has a 351-W for sale. I'm told this would be a pretty straight
swap, but the lure of the 460 is pretty strong.

Any advice/information/personal points of view would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Bonkrr
Proud Owner
1995 SHO Taurus (109,000km)
1987 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (240,000 km)
1978 F-150 Step Side 4X4 (154,000km)

600,000 kilometres of Power By FORD

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:50:29 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - fusible links

>
> > > So far I have narrowed it down to
> > > some where under the dash (connector
> > > or ignition switch) but is there a fuse or
> > > fusible link for just the coil power in the
> > > run position?

Well I figured it out. A previous owner installed a fuse inline with the
coil power. It gets it's juice off an orange/green wire on the key switch, to
the fuse and up to the top of the dash out of eye contact. Somewhere it makes
it's way to the coil.

Anyway the 78 rides again, 270,000+ miles on a 300 six. Engine has never
been opened and runs really smooth. There is a little bit of noise from under
the valve cover, but not my truck man ;)

Laters

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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4


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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:23:56 PDT
From: "Art Verling"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Submerged

I can speak from an electrical standpoint, and the owner of a boat that
filled with rain water in the driveway over the winter(Sunk on Land ). All
of your electrical connections will corrode over the next few months and you
will have MANY electrical problems that will be ongoing untilall of the
connections are replaced. You can replace all of the electrical for around
$300.00 from a place called Painless Wiring. I would have to say you will
develop many squeaks from rust.
Good Luck,
Art
64 F100
74 Dead Glaspar Boat

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:48:02 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 534 engine

I've seen diesels have as much torque as 900ft-lbs, with only 200-300 hp
before, i don't know if this is true with all diesels but, i always assumed
they made alot more torque but not as much hp as gas engines.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:51:39 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Grinding gears

>What year is your truck? Is your tranny a T-18?

I just bought a 84 F-250 4x2 and I think it has a T-19.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:54:58 GMT
From: "Brian Vance"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - stuck dist

Thanks for all who helped me with my stuck dist problem. I let it soak
overnight in that "Kroil" stuff a member talked about a few months back. I
think the engine has to be cold also. After tapping it for a while, now my
light says I'm at 31 ATC. Somethings wrong. Could a bigger cam do this?
Is there a chance the rotor has slipped? I'm using the front passengers
side wire as #1. I must be doing something wrong?

Brian
77 351M


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