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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, July 14 1999 Volume 03 : Number 245

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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 in '64?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins 4BT to NP435
FTE 61-79 - brake lights/turn signals
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear End swap
FTE 61-79 - odometer roll back
FTE 61-79 - Rear End swap
FTE 61-79 - Chain Reaction & Remanufactured Parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins 4BT to NP435
Re: FTE 61-79 - Stumbler
FTE 61-79 - Wheelbase
FTE 61-79 - odometer roll back
FTE 61-79 - 16 inch bias tires, recommendations
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964 F100 Front Wheel Cylinders
FTE 61-79 - 1st and last years of FE in trucks
FTE 61-79 - Oil restrictions, FE
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964 F100 Front Wheel Cylinders
FTE 61-79 - FE's in trucks
FTE 61-79 - CLICKING starter
FTE 61-79 - Dimming lights
FTE 61-79 - Stalling out
Re: FTE 61-79 - 16 inch bias tires, recommendations
FTE 61-79 - Rear gearing
FTE 61-79 - Part time 4wd
FTE 61-79 - Interchange
FTE 61-79 - 352 in '64
RE: FTE 61-79 - Interchange
FTE 61-79 - Interchange Info
RE: FTE 61-79 - Interchange
Re: FTE 61-79 - Interchange
Re: FTE 61-79 - Interchange
FTE 61-79 - 351m water passages blocked
FTE 61-79 - engine swap
FTE 61-79 - '76 FE - RIP/Lets Just Go Backwards, Why Don't We
Re: FTE 61-79 - Wheelbase
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351m water passages blocked
FTE 61-79 - 240/300 performance
Re: FTE 61-79 - 16 inch bias tires, recommendations
FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79 A happy face :-) and Tires,, again,, (my truck is finaly home....)

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:18:09 EDT
From: TBeeee

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 in '64?

In a message dated 7/13/99 12:09:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ballingr

ldd.net writes:

>
> I'd like to hear more about your truck.

This was interesting to me too. The 352 had been available since 1958.
However, the 1965 Model year was the first year it was "officially" put into
trucks at the factory. How does the engine mount bolt up to the
engine (2 or 3 bolts)? Are there any casting numbers on your engine? If you
send me your VIN Plate Data I will decode it for you and see if the engine
can be documented as a factory option. Obviously the engineers stuffed some
352's into trucks before Ford decided to run production. Wouldn't it be neat
if you had some sort of Limited Production 64 test model?

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (I need factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:09:33 EDT
From: L7514

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins 4BT to NP435

Since we are on the subject of Deisels, I have one for anyone who might
have some good advice. I recently purchased a '95 F-350 with a mighty
Powerstroke. Since Im not sure when the oil was last changed, I was wanting
to do that right away. I found a list of approved oils & filters for this
engine, but was wanting to know if anyone had some good feedback on what
might be the best. Readily available at my nearest Walmart, I found a
Motorcraft filter & both "Shell Rotella" and the "Chevron" brands of 15w40
oils. I used to work at a truckstop & saw alot of the big rig drivers using
the shell rotella, so thought that might be what I wanted to go with, but
would appreciate any additional help &/or comments.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:20:16 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - brake lights/turn signals

>>Wont this give you 4 brakelights when the turnsignals are off and 3 when
right or left turnsignals are on? Or is this what you want? Or am I
confused?

Sparky,

Yes, yes, and no.

- -- John
jlagrone

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1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:12:04 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Chain Reaction & Remanufactured Parts

A short time ago, I had a problem with the right front brake pulling on
my 69 F250 which I had previously converted to power disc brakes using all
new parts. The problem was easily solved by replacing the new caliper (lower
piston was sticking). After using my new power brake bleeder, I took the
truck in for state safety & emissions testing and the results showed a
difference of "-0.6%" in the left right balance of the front brakes so I
figured my problems are all solved.
Unfortunately the high heat of the hub caused by the faulty caliper has
burnt/melted the high temp front disc brake grease off of the bearings
because I'm now hearing a very faint squeak/chirp. I've popped the cap off
of the rotor and noticed the grease is burnt black where it touches the hub.
Looks like I'm going to be replacing the bearings today.

Sometimes I wonder about the value of remanufactured parts as one faulty
item can and usually does cause damage to other related items which are not
covered by the "lifetime" warranty. I had just done an oil change when the
fuel pump malfunctioned and forced me to change the oil again,... do you
think I would have been compensated if the engine blew up due to a faulty
fuel pump?... NOT

I'm going to have nightmares about the parts clerk saying "here's your
replacement water pump sir, sorry about the last one ruining your brand new
engine".

Danger

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:28:02 -0700
From: Don
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins 4BT to NP435

Hello Lance;
there was a big discussion about oil on the vw diesel
list and Rotella sems to be the favorite. I believe a CG rating is relevant
as well as the best weight to use seems to be 20-50 and castrol is really
popular as well
Good luck with yer rig

Don

> I found a list of approved oils & filters for this
>engine, but was wanting to know if anyone had some good feedback on what
>might be the best. Readily available at my nearest Walmart, I found a
>Motorcraft filter & both "Shell Rotella" and the "Chevron" brands of 15w40
>oils. I used to work at a truckstop & saw alot of the big rig drivers using
>the shell rotella, so thought that might be what I wanted to go with, but
>would appreciate any additional help &/or comments.
>Thanks, Lance
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:32:43 -0500
From: "John R. Austin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Stumbler

Thanks for all the replies. Just for information - major problem ended up
being a leak in the intake manifold which would usually prevent #1 from
getting any gas to fire. Am in the process of replacing that now. Hopefully,
that will fix it all. Anybody happen to have an extra exhaust manifold for a
300? This one's cracked and will no doubt break when removed.
Thanks again,
John

> >From: "John R. Austin"
> >Subject: FTE 61-79 - The Stumbler
> >
> >1967 F100 w/300 I-6. Had it tuned wonderfully using vacuum guages (great
> >advice from this group) Ran super for a couple of weeks. All of a sudden
it
> >has started to stumble at acceleration, REALLY stumble. Have rechecked
> >timing, plug wires, looked for loose plugs. Where do I look first (next)?
> >Thanks,
> >John
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:30:29 -0500
From: 3granch

ayrix.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wheelbase

Mr. Grant had asked if the wheelbase is the same for a Supercab with a short box and a regular cab with a long wheelbase.

My 76 Supercab wheelbase is 139" and my 78 Regular cab has a wheelbase of 133". I hope this helps.

Ronnie Rowton
Braxton, MS
78 F250 4WD 351M NP435
76 F100 2WD 360 C? (Parts, looking to trade 360/C? for 351M and a rust free bed)

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:12:11 -0500
From:
Subject: FTE 61-79 - odometer roll back

>>Personally, I like the idea of a frame off going to
>>zero.

I dunno about that John. Consider the wide range of what could be
considered a "frame off resto". I think its much more accurate to give
the "mileage" as best as you can estimate it, and then add that you
did the resto (and here are the receipts of everything done) at such
and such mileage.

Its nice to know about how many miles a truck has on it, but that is
just part of what I use when evaluating a truck's "state".
Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 FE, 4 speed
Houston, Texas

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:27:56 -0700
From: "Jeff Carver"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 16 inch bias tires, recommendations

I have been checking local tire stores for some
6.50-16 6PR bias ply tires for my '64 CrewCab.
I thought it would be a snap. Wrong!

Anybody have any recommendations of a brand that
actually carries and old style tire like this?

I saw a similar vintage restored St*d*b*k*r truck
with a set of 6.50-16's with huge whitewalls,
but they cost about $125 each!

I just want basic decent highway tires, in the
right size. Thin whitewalls would be nice, but
not required. I've tried various tire sites
on the web with little luck. I am hoping that
someone out there in FTE land has some real
information.

Oh yeah, the shop quotedme $92 each for the front
brake cylinders! Anybody have a different price?
I'm not objecting in spending money to stop well,
I would be nice to have a decent price.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab
Springs installed, brakes next, tires soon.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:20:07 EDT
From: TBeeee

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964 F100 Front Wheel Cylinders

In a message dated 7/13/99 11:34:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
truck.carver

mailcity.com writes:

>
> Oh yeah, the shop quotedme $92 each for the front
> brake cylinders! Anybody have a different price?

Jeff:
That price may not be too far out of line if your getting NOS Ford
stuff. However, you should be able to get reman/aftermarket stuff much
cheaper. For instance Autokrafters has a front cylinder for a 65-67 at 37.95
each. The catalog I have doesn't list a 64 2wd application, but you might
call them. A 1997 Mac's Antique Auto catalog has them for 39.95. Shop
around these are only two of many suppliers out there. I hope this helps and
let me know if you need any further info.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:30:21 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1st and last years of FE in trucks

Scott writes: >>What were the first and last years FE engines were put into
trucks?

1st = 1965
last = 1976

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:39:10 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil restrictions, FE

Rade writes: >> Anyway do the "truck"
FE's have these restivive oil passages, or are they a feature of the FT
engines?

Both FE's and FT's have the restrictions.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:07:26 -0500
From: "Corey Johnson"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964 F100 Front Wheel Cylinders

I could be wrong but when I rebuilt my wheel cylinders in May (cost about $4
each) I checked the price at Autozone and new ones were less than $20 each.. But
then again this was for a '66.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:10:26 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE's in trucks

Tim O'Conner writes: >>My records show the following for FE's in trucks:

352 used from 65 thru 67
360 used from 68 thru 72
390 used from 68 thru 74

I saw that someone reported that the 390 was used thru 76. Can anyone
confirm this?

I Had a '76 F150 that had a 360. I still have a '76 F350 that has a 390.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:27:50 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - CLICKING starter

Ian writes: >>guys i recheck the ground wire, and the cables from the silenoid
and starter,
none are bare, all the crimpings seem solid, the starter is what clicks, not
the silenoid, and the radio and dome light work but they dont work after i
turn the key they stop working, the horn doesnt even work either

When you get dimming lights when you activate the starter it is either (1)
shorted cable or starter (drawing way too much current) or (2) dead battery or a
bad connection between battery and solenoid.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:29:25 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dimming lights

Ian writes: >>guys i recheck the ground wire, and the cables from the silenoid
and starter,
none are bare, all the crimpings seem solid, the starter is what clicks, not
the silenoid, and the radio and dome light work but they dont work after i
turn the key they stop working, the horn doesnt even work either

I forgot #3; Bad ground.

Azie
ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:50:59 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Stalling out

Bad Ford Filly writes: >> Ok hey y'all, I love mah truck and all but lately
> she makes me wanna sell her to the junkyard!
> OK here's what happened, a few days ago I was
> drivin along just fine till she kinda sputtered and
> when I gave her gas she didn't accelerate. I kinda
> puttered to the side of the road and turned the ignition
> off. AFter waiting a few minutes it started right up
> again and was fine, except for the fact that my
> blinkers didn't work.

My guess is the Ignition module. Could be a # of things, but I'd start there.

The steering loss is because power steering doesn't work if engine is not
turning.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 16 inch bias tires, recommendations

Hey Jeff,

Warm enough for you yet?

> I have been checking local tire stores for some
> 6.50-16 6PR bias ply tires for my '64 CrewCab.
> I thought it would be a snap. Wrong!
>
> Anybody have any recommendations of a brand that
> actually carries and old style tire like this?

The last bias tires I bought were from Big-O. But,
they were around $100 each (probably 8PR for my F250)

> Oh yeah, the shop quotedme $92 each for the front
> brake cylinders! Anybody have a different price?
> I'm not objecting in spending money to stop well,
> I would be nice to have a decent price.

My failing memory recalls a discussion here a while
back on front cyls for an early 60's model, they
only fit one application and were expensive. But,
call around to see what you can come up with. If
you end up stuck, here is a contact to get your
originals restored:

Sierra Specialty Automotive
3494 Chandler Rd, Quincy, CA 95971
800-4-BRASS-1
sierrasa

psin.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.restoresource.com/

He offers a re-sleeving service for restorations,
$45 per cylinder, and he's not too far from you.

No affiliation, or even a customer, but a place
I bookmarked for future reference :-)
- --
Pat Brown
100's again today around Sonoma County, California
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:26:07 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear gearing

Garry Bowling writes: >>
also want to regear. I believe the rear end is a 3.5 but could be
3.25. One thing for sure when doing just over 70 I am pushing 3000rpm.
I need to reduce the wear on the engine and hopefully improve fuel
economy.

I was told to consider 2.7 or 2.9 rear end.. I do not pull anything with
this truck and as of now do not plan on it. However, I know there will
always be a first time. I have found a guy here in Louisville Ky who
will do the work for approx 300.00 including parts.

If you have the Ford 9" (and that should be what came in yours), then you can
just about swap in any other 9" whether it be car or truck. Only thing you have
to watch out for is the # of splines your axles have and get a rear chunk (the
removable center section) with the same # of splines in the gears that drive the
axles. They came in the later model big cars(that still used the 9") in ratios
down numerically to 2.4 and maybe lower. You can buy those things around here
for $50.00 all day. The 2.7 and 2.9 are probably the most popular in later
years of the 9", so shouldn't be a problem to find.

I'd think $300.00 for swapping out a center section would be awfully high. I can
do it in less than 2 hours with hand tools....... Now if he is going to furnish
NEW gears, and set it up, he is close...
JMHO
Aren't you the Guy that was

Pigeon Forge in '98 with the refurbished steering
wheel???
I've been trying to locate you if you are the one.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:38:57 -0400
From: am14

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Part time 4wd

Ian writes: >>Well.. I've done 50-60mph on dry blacktop in part time 4wd and
nothing
> gave. But yeah, you'll use up tires and gas real fast.

There is no problem in driving an NP 205 in 2wd on pavement, but you are only
asking for trouble if you drive it on pavement in 4wd. There is no differential
action in it and it will certainly bind. You might get by doing it on occasion,
but you certainly aren't doing yourself(or the owner of the vehicle) any favors
when you do it. It is definately stressing the drive line, and if done often
enough or severely enough something will B R E A K.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:30:08 -0700
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

I am thnking of putting together a page with interchange information.

An example is my need for new drums for the '65. drums for a newer truck are
half the cost. I want to find out why and how to swap to the less costly
items. when I do that would be the kind of info I want to put up there.

So, if you have know of any newer, cheaper, better, or easier to aquire
parts that can be swapped let me know and as I collect info I will put it on
my web site.
Thanks,
-srw

Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby

UsWest.Net A-SamWe

daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 352 in '64

WEDIVE247 writes : >> CORRECTION , MY 64 came with a 352

Tell us about this '64 with a 352. When I was trying to buy one brand new (that
I never did buy) the only V8 offered in trucks was the 292 Y block. My brother
in law bought one and wore it out several times.
Built in '64 does not mean the same as '64 model. Does your truck have a
straight axle in front or the Twin I beams??? I'm not trying to tell you you
don't know what you have or anything, but I'm awfully curious about your truck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:39:10 -0600
From: "Berkeley, Dan"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

Sam,

This web site offers books - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hollander-auto-parts.com/

That have interchangeable parts. I have not used these books, but if they
contain the info as advertised, they could be very useful. Has anyone ever
used these?

Curious in Denver
Dan
78 F100.

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From: Sam Weatherby [mailto:SWeatherby

uswest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:30 PM
To: trucks
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

I am thnking of putting together a page with interchange information.

An example is my need for new drums for the '65. drums for a newer truck are
half the cost. I want to find out why and how to swap to the less costly
items. when I do that would be the kind of info I want to put up there.

So, if you have know of any newer, cheaper, better, or easier to aquire
parts that can be swapped let me know and as I collect info I will put it on
my web site.
Thanks,
-srw

Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby

UsWest.Net A-SamWe

Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'65 F100

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:24:16 -0700
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interchange Info

If anyone is interested in seeing what i was thinking, you can see an
example at my web page.
Choose "Ford Parts Interchange" from the main page.
I'll make it look nicer later.
-srw

Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby

UsWest.Net A-SamWe

Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'65 F100

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:52:32 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

They are fantastic, but they do not come cheap (check their price list).
These are the same books that the auto recycling industry uses.

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From: Berkeley, Dan [mailto:Dan.Berkeley

sagasoftware.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 1:39 PM
To: '61-79-list

ford-trucks.com'
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

Sam,

This web site offers books - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hollander-auto-parts.com/

That have interchangeable parts. I have not used these books, but if they
contain the info as advertised, they could be very useful. Has anyone ever
used these?

Curious in Denver
Dan
78 F100.

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From: Sam Weatherby [mailto:SWeatherby

UsWest.Net A-SamWe

Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'65 F100

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:03:12 -0800
From: "Erik Marquez"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

Many times. Local library's some times have them. And most yards do...if
they have not gone computerized. If in doubt, call a yard you do bizz with
and ask.. "what vehicles have a XXXXX that will fit my XXXXX"

Erik Marquez
bronco78

mosquitonet.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mosquitonet.com/~bronco78
Home of the BB decal
Bronco 78 in the BB chat room
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From: Berkeley, Dan
To: '61-79-list

ford-trucks.com'
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

>Sam,
>
>This web site offers books - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hollander-auto-parts.com/
>
>That have interchangeable parts. I have not used these books, but if they
>contain the info as advertised, they could be very useful. Has anyone ever
>used these?
>
>Curious in Denver
>Dan
>78 F100.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sam Weatherby [mailto:SWeatherby

uswest.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:30 PM
>To: trucks
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interchange
>
>I am thnking of putting together a page with interchange information.
>
>An example is my need for new drums for the '65. drums for a newer truck
are
>half the cost. I want to find out why and how to swap to the less costly
>items. when I do that would be the kind of info I want to put up there.
>
>So, if you have know of any newer, cheaper, better, or easier to aquire
>parts that can be swapped let me know and as I collect info I will put it
on
>my web site.
>Thanks,
> -srw
>
>Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
>SWeatherby

UsWest.Net A-SamWe

Microsoft.com
>'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
>'65 F100
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:13:51 EDT
From: TBeeee

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Interchange

In a message dated 7/13/99 2:54:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SWeatherby

uswest.net writes:

> An example is my need for new drums for the '65. drums for a newer truck are
> half the cost. I want to find out why and how to swap to the less costly
> items. when I do that would be the kind of info I want to put up there.

Sam:

I looked at your page. I think your premise is a worthwhile pursuit. I
can understand the dumb stares you get when you ask the parts guy for a 65
whatever. I often wonder whether some less than scrupulous auto part sellers
artificially inflate their prices for classic applications. I fortunately
have an excellent relationship with my parts guy who is willing to order
stuff for me on a whim without any worry about sending it back. A lot of
this stuff has to be special ordered.

As a general rule, there are many applications where parts will
interchange, but I always caution it where safety is at issue. drive-line
and brake components are such items. In order to accurately compare items
you should rely on their specifications. I think the premise of an
interchange book is just that. Someone has taken the time to cross-reference
parts based on their dimensions and specs. I am willing to chase down some
specs for you on your drums. E-mail me off list if you are interested.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:44:54 -0400
From: Brent Cole
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351m water passages blocked

Hey all, my new toy is a 79 F100 and it has an original 351m with about 118k
miles on it. It still runs good but when it heats up it pops and gurgles
like it is over heating but the water flowing around the temp sensor is cool
(working and showing cool temp). I put in a new t-stat, water pump, and
flushed the radiator. While the water pump was off I tried to flush the
water passages in the block and had some trouble getting flow. I finially
got the water to flow through but it is still acting up. Any suggestions on
clearing the passages before I pull the whole thing out? The truck sat for
2 years before I bought (stole) it for $500 with a perfect body and
origional owner!

Brent

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: rich may
Subject: FTE 61-79 - engine swap

I currently have a 390 out of a mustang in my '76 F250 and I was
wondering if I could put a fuel injected 460 in it's place. If anyone
has any better ideas about a swap into this truck, please let me know.

Rich May
1999 F-250 Super Duty
1989 Centurion C350
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:24:52 EDT
From: BDIJXS

aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '76 FE - RIP/Lets Just Go Backwards, Why Don't We

I've never heard of downgrading an engine before....

Sorry, Kid, couldn't resist...

Need another 360/390 block???? Maybe you can pick one up here in September,
eh???

CJ
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:31:48 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Wheelbase

In a message dated 7/13/99 6:46:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
3granch

ayrix.net writes:

>
Is this a long or short bed?

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:33:51 PDT
From: "George Litton"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351m water passages blocked

well, I'm sorry to tell you this, but my suggestion is to pull it. I work
in a machine shop, so I have a lot of experience with this type of problem.
Fords typically have very narrow water jackets, so sediment builds up
easily. They fill the water jacket from the bottom up. I have seen
build-up clear to the freeze-plugs[kind of hard to get them out when it is
solid behind them.].the best bet is to get the freeze-plugs out, then dig
around in there with a sharp tool to loosen the crud. Flush with water,
then reinstall new freeze-plugs. They are 1 and 1/2 inch dia.

>From: Brent Cole
>Reply-To: 61-79-list

ford-trucks.com
>To: Truck List
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351m water passages blocked
>Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:44:54 -0400
>
>Hey all, my new toy is a 79 F100 and it has an original 351m with about
>118k
>miles on it. It still runs good but when it heats up it pops and gurgles
>like it is over heating but the water flowing around the temp sensor is
>cool
>(working and showing cool temp). I put in a new t-stat, water pump, and
>flushed the radiator. While the water pump was off I tried to flush the
>water passages in the block and had some trouble getting flow. I finially
>got the water to flow through but it is still acting up. Any suggestions
>on
>clearing the passages before I pull the whole thing out? The truck sat for
>2 years before I bought (stole) it for $500 with a perfect body and
>origional owner!
>
>Brent
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Daniel DiMartino
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 240/300 performance

a while back there were a few people talking about the dual exhaust for
the six cylinders. what about intakes? did ford make a stock 2bbl intake
for the six? if so, is it compatable with all model years? what is the
best bang for the buck without risking a "cheesy sounding" motor? i
remember someone was concerned about that. keeping my baby, el corchino
(piglet), stock is my ultimate goal, but more power is always a plus.

===
Daniel DiMartino

1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:54:11 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 16 inch bias tires, recommendations

Jeff Carver wrote:

> Oh yeah, the shop quotedme $92 each for the front
> brake cylinders! Anybody have a different price?
> I'm not objecting in spending money to stop well,
> I would be nice to have a decent price.

Try these guys: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kanter.com/truck/trwc.html $25 apiece or $80.00 for a set of four.

Ted Wnorowski
'64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed

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