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61-79-list-digest Monday, July 12 1999 Volume 03 : Number 242



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - bed bolts
FTE 61-79 - Exploding Transfer Cases/NP 435 Swap
FTE 61-79 - leinholder
FTE 61-79 - brake/turn signals
FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - leinholder
RE: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
FTE 61-79 - re:trannys; rare
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M pistons in a 400M application?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M pistons in a 400M application?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
FTE 61-79 - Power steering help
FTE 61-79 - FE availability
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE availability
FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins 4BTA's
FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins Swap
FTE 61-79 - anybody need a tailgate for a 78/79 bronco
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-350 "Code 22" Rear End
FTE 61-79 - Re: How do I remove Bed Bolts????
Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
FTE 61-79 - I have power steering!
FTE 61-79 - RE: starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE availability
FTE 61-79 - WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?!?

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:36:41 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - bed bolts

How about grinding the heads off? Might be a little easier to access....

CJ
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:38:11 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Exploding Transfer Cases/NP 435 Swap

Hi Matt,

Welcome to the club, I exploded one of these also on a rough hill
climb....Since I didn't have money at the time to fix it, I just pulled the
bottom half off (it was held together just by the Dana metal tag), pulled out
the front driveline, and drove it for almost a year.....kind of a "fake four
wheeler".....Finally, when those bearings started to growl loud enough, I bit
the bullet and found another one.

Anyway, to do the swap, get a 76-79 tranny, adapter, and transfer case. Also
get the floorboard "hump" piece, and the transfer case bracket that bolts to
the frame. You'll also want the T-case shifter and linkage. I think I can use
the top half of the original tranny mount, but I'm going to have to fabricate
a whole lower part that sits on the crossmember. It doesn't look very hard
though. First I want to get the engine in so I can place everything where I
want it, make the tranny mount, then drill the holes for the T-case
bracket....

Hope this helps...

CJ







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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:14:53 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - leinholder

>>You can put yourself down as a leinholder and the lean could be
anything you want. Technical "owner" can't do anything with it until the
lean is satified.

True, Ox, this is another possibility, but lienholder makes you legally
responsible. In Texas, the lienholder is the real owner. The listed owner of
a vehicle with a lien has the privelege of driving it, buying license
plates, paying taxes, and buying insurance required by the lienholder. The
lienholder controls the title. That makes him/her the real owner.

Now the idea of a second home in another state has some pitfalls, too. Pick
a state that doesn't have income tax. If you claim residency for the
purposes of registering your truck, you will probably set yourself up to
come under their jurisdiction in other areas as well. Face it Ox, if they
don't get us coming, they will get us going. You know the really sad part?
They is supposed to be us since our government is supposed to be "of the
people".

I don't think you can be a dual resident of two states as far as the legal
definition goes. The military folks around here have to claim a "home of
record". This exempts them from many of the local and state regulations. For
instance a soldier from Iowa doesn't have to get his car inspected in Texas
and can drive with an expired license for so many days, I think about 90.
William Whited can probaly fill us in more accurately here.

My brother once had four trailers and one license plate. Worked fine until
he got caught. The point here is if you get by with something in the gray
areas of the law, it may or may not be worth it depending on the
consequences of getting caught.

- -- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:16:04 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - brake/turn signals

Sparky,

You basically did what I suggested as far as wiring goes at the brake light
switch. If I do mine, I will probably not add a new 12+ line. I am sure the
other wire goes to the turn signal switch. I take it your turn signals still
work. The bulbs must feed from a different 12+ wire when used as turn
signals.

I think that I am going to add the second bulb as you did. I am going to
look for some bulb holders that use the slide in bulbs instead of the round
base twist and lock. My Towncar uses these all over the place so the
boneyard should be full of them. Next I will tap into the wire that runs
between the brake light switch and the turn signal switch, running it to the
rear of the truck. There it will split to each side to feed the new bulbs.
This setup should allow the originals to function as they are now and the
new bulbs to perform as brake lights only. I also like the fact that the
backup lights remain intact. I think I am also going to look for some
auxillary backup lights.

The reason I want to add a second brake light is that I don't think mine are
as bright as I would like them to be. I would like to add a third center
brake light, but am indecisive about style and location. At least wiring is
now not an issue.

Congratulations on your successful conversion and thanks for sharing.

- -- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:09:42 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

Ok, Im miffed, i can't fix this darn thing, I started it one day, (I can't
remember if i already posted something about this so forgive me if i did,
theres more to the story now anyways) Went to the grocery. (2 miles) got
my stuff, came out, wouldn't start. hooked it up to a tow truck to try and
jump it, wouldn't jump it, guy said it seemed like the starter was locked up.
Spent some bucks towing it home, put a new starter on it. Wouldn't start,
just clicked like the battery was dead, battery was dead. Charged the
battery, still wouldn't start, just clicked. Got a new silenoid (spelling?),
wouldn't start, checked the connections, tested the alternator which the
shop said was like new, briefly checked over the fuses, none seemed blown,
my question to you is this,,,,whats wrong with my truck? Anybody? pretty
pretty please help me...

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:46:24 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - leinholder

John LaGrone wrote:

> Now the idea of a second home in another state has some pitfalls, too. Pick
> a state that doesn't have income tax. I don't think you can be a dual resident
> of two states as far as the legal definition goes. The military folks around
> here have to claim a "home of record". This exempts them from many of the
> local and state regulations. For instance a soldier from Iowa doesn't have to
> get his car inspected in Texas and can drive with an expired license for so
> many days, I think about 90.
> William Whited can probaly fill us in more accurately here.

John, Has some excellent points. My home of Record is VA, and when I was
stationed in NC I owned a home, I had to pay VA state tax and personal property
tax on my vehicles if I had them registered in VA, (Funny I got away with not
paying them for two years until I registered to vote, then they got me). As far
as NC I had to pay all the housing taxes and was able to re-register my vehicle
there. As far as letting your license expire each state has it's own standards,
VA's was around 90 days. I'll be heading to El Paso soon, Ft Bliss in the end
of Aug., Yeah El Paso has emissions tests, but VA state tax is killing me. Just
remember if it seems like an easy fix with the govt. stand by cause it may come
back and bite ya back HARD.
- --
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:56:16 -0700
From: "Steve Schwartz"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

By 'won't start', I gather you mean 'won't crank'. You said the solenoid
clicks, so that piece is OK. Since you have replaced everything except the
wiring, I suggest you check the big ole wire that goes from the battery to
the solenoid, and then the big ole wire that goes from the solenoid to the
starter. Probably loose/corroded in the crimped-on lug at one of the four
ends on the two wires. Yank on 'em and see if you can pull anything loose.

The only other possibility is that the battery is bad. Anything else
requires Bill Murray/Dan Akroyd and Ghostbusters.

Steve



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> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of IanBoss69 aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 10:10 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems
>
>
> Ok, Im miffed, i can't fix this darn thing, I started it one day,
> (I can't
> remember if i already posted something about this so forgive me if i did,
> theres more to the story now anyways) Went to the grocery. (2
> miles) got
> my stuff, came out, wouldn't start. hooked it up to a tow truck
> to try and
> jump it, wouldn't jump it, guy said it seemed like the starter
> was locked up.
> Spent some bucks towing it home, put a new starter on it.
> Wouldn't start,
> just clicked like the battery was dead, battery was dead. Charged the
> battery, still wouldn't start, just clicked. Got a new silenoid
> (spelling?),
> wouldn't start, checked the connections, tested the alternator which the
> shop said was like new, briefly checked over the fuses, none
> seemed blown,
> my question to you is this,,,,whats wrong with my truck?
> Anybody? pretty
> pretty please help me...
>
> Ian
> 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
> members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
> True Blue Ford Blue.....and i got the blues.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:48:44 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

Ian, I have gone through the same thing before, I
had changed all like you did, 1st I had hooked the
solenoid wrong, but it ended up being a bad ground
connection when all was sad and done.

- --
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:01:35 -0700
From: Mark Flynn
Subject: FTE 61-79 - re:trannys; rare

I seez:

> > need, which is why I was looking for a T-19.
> >
> > But; I'm ready to give up, cause I'm not ready to spend $1200 on one.
> > I'll just see about rebuilding my NP435, or look for a used one. They
> > are very rare. Call the junk yards, and their response is pretty quick,
> > "nope".
>
Then fm Birken, (and similiar fm Don G and Serian):
>They sure as heck aren't rare around here (No. Ca), where are you
>located?

Whoops; while reading my mssg again, I wasn't too clear. I actually
meant that the T19s were rare. At least in San Jose CA. I also checked
with Driveline Specialists in Las Vegas, who said they could dig up a
rebuilt for about $1200. I'd have to eat the core charge, because it has
to be "like for like".

Are you saying that you know sources in N Ca that have T19s?

I have heard that the tail shaft is different fm the NP435; but; I
wonder if the shift stick is compatible. Of course, if I find a junk
yard that has one, I can get the stick and drive shaft yoke.

thx,
Mark
San Jose, CA

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:15:11 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M pistons in a 400M application?

KB has stroker pistons for the 351W but I don't recall seeing any for the M.
They do have a shorter comp. ht. but the pin is much smaller so the rod
would have to be bushed. If you're going to go with different piston and
bush the rod go with the 400 crank and 351C flat tops and a 400 crank.
Depending on how much you mill the deck you'll get a 9.3-9.5:1 c.r.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Michael
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, July 10, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M pistons in a 400M application?


>Try a stroker piston from Keith Black. Almost the same but the pin height
is
>much shorter.



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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:23:55 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M pistons in a 400M application?

Evidently 2 cranks are better than 1....D'OH!

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Beyer
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M pistons in a 400M application?


>If you're going to go with different piston and
>bush the rod go with the 400 crank and 351C flat tops and a 400 crank.



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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: barry mitchell
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

I had a simiuler problem with my 82,seemed like it would start when it
wanted to. Only thing is I don't remember if the silenoid would click
or not,anyway my problem was a bare wire on the positive side of the
coil it was shorting out against the block.

- --- IanBoss69 aol.com wrote:
> Ok, Im miffed, i can't fix this darn thing, I
> started it one day, (I can't
> remember if i already posted something about this so
> forgive me if i did,
> theres more to the story now anyways) Went to the
> grocery. (2 miles) got
> my stuff, came out, wouldn't start. hooked it up
> to a tow truck to try and
> jump it, wouldn't jump it, guy said it seemed like
> the starter was locked up.
> Spent some bucks towing it home, put a new starter
> on it. Wouldn't start,
> just clicked like the battery was dead, battery was
> dead. Charged the
> battery, still wouldn't start, just clicked. Got a
> new silenoid (spelling?),
> wouldn't start, checked the connections, tested the
> alternator which the
> shop said was like new, briefly checked over the
> fuses, none seemed blown,
> my question to you is this,,,,whats wrong with my
> truck? Anybody? pretty
> pretty please help me...
>
> Ian
> 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
> members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm
> True Blue Ford Blue.....and i got the blues.
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V8 Pinto (mine)
429 Torino swap (a buddy's)
76 Ford 4X4 460 swap (same buddy's)
64 F100 390 swap (son's)
63 unibody converted to 4X4 (stepson's)
82 F250 rebuild (mine)
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:57:06 -0700
From: Jeff Harsha
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power steering help

I recently had a leaking power steering gearbox on my '69 F100
replaced. The unit is the Bendix box. The new steering box seems
"tight". I brought the truck to an alignment shop to redo the alignment
and they told me that the gearbox needed to be adjusted because it does
not automatically return to center. they told me it was "a simple
screwdriver adjustment" but of course, neglected to show me where to
find the "simple screw".
I took it back to the shop that installed the gearbox and they said
"tight" is normal. Can any of you give a hint as to what I should be
adjusting? is it the "sector screw adjustment" I see in the shop
manual? If so...how much and what are the tricks?

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:37:49 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE availability

My records show the following for FE's in trucks:

352 used from 65 thru 67
360 used from 68 thru 72
390 used from 68 thru 74

I saw that someone reported that the 390 was used thru 76. Can anyone
confirm this?

Tim
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:11:36 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE availability

> My records show the following for FE's in trucks:
>
> 352 used from 65 thru 67
> 360 used from 68 thru 72
> 390 used from 68 thru 74
>
> I saw that someone reported that the 390 was used thru 76. Can anyone
> confirm this?
............

According to Steve Christ's book, the FE was installed in pickup trucks
from 1965 through 1976.


Danger



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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:49:32 -0400
From: Bill Templeton
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins 4BTA's

Brett, your comments on Cummins 4BTA provide a good starting point on the
66 F350 conversion to diesel. Since reading you post I have seen a number
of 4BTA's advertised, the only price I have seen was a pullout of $2500.
Several point on you post: 1). By "SAE #2 OR #3 I suppose you mean
fabricate a bellhousing? 2). I incorrectly stated the transmission in my
F350 as a 434, it is a 435-4. 3). While you mentioned the bellhousing, what
is your thoughts on flywheel and transmission front shaft mating up to a 4BTA?

For the record, here are a few specifications on the diesel OEM for the 66
model series from the owners manual: 4- cylinders, 220 cu/in, 4.524 stroke,
65 Net HP 1550 Rpm, 70 Gross HP 1600 Rpm, engine was used in
P-3500/4000/5000, the P4000 GVW was roughly the same as the F-350. -- I
would be curious of reasoning as to why Ford offered the diesel only in the
P series?

The 66 F350's VIN lists the rear as code "22" can anyone comment as to the
model and ration of this rear?

Bill
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300 Wickliffe Lane, West Union, SC 29696
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:02:53 EDT
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cummins Swap

Well.....I just got back from the Bloomsburg, PA 4-Wheel & Offroad Jamboree
today (Sunday). I left Friday morning at 5:00am and got there at arounf
8:30am. What a long ride!!! Last week someone was looking to swap a Cummins
Turbo Diesel into a 1973-1979 something Ford Pickup. Well....I found a guy
who had a truck with a Cummins in it. It was a 1976 F-250 4x4 with a Cummins
turbo diesel & Getrag 5 speed Trans in it. It had the stock divorced NP205
Transfer Case in it. He said it was pretty simple swap.....yea right!!! It
has about 1-1/2" space between the waterpump pulley & the radiator......and
about 2" between the back of the bellhousing and the "Lip" on the cab
firewall. The "Lip" I am reffering to is where the firewall & Floorboard
meet (at least on 1973-1979 Pickups & 1978/1979 Bronco's) The motor mounts
were modified aftermarkert ones (used new motor mounts but did not know which
ones he actually used) He moved the motor mount frame stands forward about
8" from stock location. The driveshaft between the stock transmission &
Transfer case was modified for the larger Getrag U-jounts. (Getrag...is this
the correct name?? Not sure but it is the stock 5 speed for the Cummins)
The truck has sounded cool as hell when he would spool that turbo up!!! The
Cruise night at Bloomsburg is awesome....Make plans for next year if you live
in the "Tri-State Area" (NY, NJ, PA) It is a weekend not to miss. On a
sidenote.....this years burnout contest was won by a 1996 Ford Stepside with
a built to the nuts 460!!! If there are any questions...let me know!!!
Wayne Grabley
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:41:35 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - anybody need a tailgate for a 78/79 bronco

Group,
i can get my hands on a blue 78/79 tailgate with only surface rust on
the lower lip
if anybody is interested let meknow I'm in PA the guy want $100 for it
with the glass
Joe

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:23:27 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 F-350 "Code 22" Rear End

In a message dated 7/11/99 8:04:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, temple carol.net
writes:

>
> The 66 F350's VIN lists the rear as code "22" can anyone comment as to the
> model and ration of this rear?
>
That would be a single speed Spicer 70 with a 4.88 gear ratio and rated at
7,400 lbs.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (I need factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:33:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: How do I remove Bed Bolts????

Joe,

When I did my bed, I used a grinder to grind the heads
off the bolts. I am sure a torch would work as well.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V



Group,
what is the trick to removing bed bolts???I know my
truck has 30 yrs of
dirt and rust
but there is no straight shot at the bolts with air
tools???Is there a
trick or special
tool???
Joe


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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:38:39 -0400
From: Brent Cole
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

>Ok, Im miffed, (welcome to the club)

Same thing happened to me just last week. Bought a 79 f100, changed the
starter, battery, solinoid, and put a new battery cable on the hot side.
Well I should have put a new one on the neg side too. It was corroded at
the crip terminal behind altnator. Replaced it and it started like it had a
whole new starting system! Also if this doesn't correct your problem check
your ignition switch sometimes they will stick or the contacts maybe bad.
Let us know what you find. Good luck.

Brent

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:46:02 PDT
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - I have power steering!

Well guys it finally happened, I got my power steering conversion done!
What a difference! I was pretty easy too. Just swap boxes, mount the pump
and change the shaft in my column. Everything worked out as planned. (that
doesn't happen to me too often)

I wanted to take this opportunity to share my excitement with you and to
thank you for your help. I really appreciate your experience and your
willingness to help. Thanks.

Marty Colman
73 F100 2wd 390


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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:05:55 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: starting problems

guys i recheck the ground wire, and the cables from the silenoid and starter,
none are bare, all the crimpings seem solid, the starter is what clicks, not
the silenoid, and the radio and dome light work but they dont work after i
turn the key they stop working, the horn doesnt even work either

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:12:13 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

In a message dated 7/11/99 10:45:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ColeJB ftc-i.net writes:

> Well I should have put a new one on the neg side too. It was corroded at
> the crip terminal behind altnator. Replaced it and it started like it had
a
> whole new starting system

My whole ignition system is less than 1 year old, new distributer, coil,
battery cables, now the silenoid and starter are new too, i took of the 4
gauge wire from the silenoid to the starter, and it has a small exposed part
at the end, BUT it wasn't touching anything and was covered by a plastic
sleeve, so i dont think that could be a problem although i will replace that,
any more ideas?

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:44:42 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Starting problems

Ian asked...

> any more ideas?
>
...........

OK, here's my best shot...

Bad grounds and corroded connections seem typical of a 20-30 year old
vehicle. Any time I remove a wire or connection, I use "dielectric" grease
(petroleum jelly with silicone added?) during reassembly to prevent
corrosion and help provide a good connection. It couldn't hurt to clean your
battery cables with a wire brush and baking soda & water if any signs of
corrosion is present, and then prep with dielectric for reassembly.


Danger



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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 01:04:06 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: starting problems

In a message dated 7/11/99 8:09:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
IanBoss69 aol.com writes:


starter,
none are bare, all the crimpings seem solid, the starter is what clicks, not
the silenoid, and the radio and dome light work but they dont work after i
turn the key they stop working, the horn doesnt even work either
>>
I can tell you that what you have is an electrical circuit that can not carry
high current. That circuit is from your battery to solenoid to starter into
block into ground cable on block and back to the battery. This problem is
typically caused by a dirty or loose connection. Or a battery that has some
serious problems internally, any place that sells batteries should be able to
do a capacity test. The bolt under the alternator that attaches the battery
ground cable is relatively short because the hole it fits in is not very
deep. If someone has placed a slightly longer one here it causes the your
exact problem. I've seen this twice, one of them was on my truck. If the
battery can deliver the Amps, then you have a bad connection. Just a visual
check probably will not turn up the problem, but something is not what is
appears. Oh yeah, and if you have the replacement battery terminals where
old cable is clamped to the terminal these things do this a lot also. To
save you some looking the problem is not from the solenoid to the starter.
The reason I say this is that you said the low current circuits, radio,
lights, etc quit when you go to start. This says the temporary high
resistance connection is between the battery and the solenoid or battery and
block. If it was between the solenoid and starter the low current items
would continue to work. Here is something that might work to narrow it down,
put your truck somewhere in the dark stand (I have to stand on a bucket)
where you can see the suspect connections, have someone go to start and
chances are you will see or hear an arc. Good Luck, please let us know what
you find.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:52:04 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE availability

I have a 390 in my '76 F-250 and it is the original motor.

Rade
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From: O'Connor
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:52 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE availability


>My records show the following for FE's in trucks:
>
>352 used from 65 thru 67
>360 used from 68 thru 72
>390 used from 68 thru 74
>
>I saw that someone reported that the 390 was used thru 76. Can anyone
>confirm this?
>
>Tim
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:44:41 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?!?

Ok hey y'all, I love mah truck and all but lately she makes me wanna sell her....

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