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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - emissions sticker
FTE 61-79 - Re: Pushrod
FTE 61-79 - Door panels
Re: FTE 61-79 - Weird FE Water Pump
FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging prob.
FTE 61-79 - 1976 Super Cab FS
FTE 61-79 - voltage regulator
FTE 61-79 - swap meet
Re: FTE 61-79 - Door panels
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pushrod
Re: FTE 61-79 - Weird FE Water Pump
Re: FTE 61-79 - 69 Update
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin Joe Camel
FTE 61-79 - 68-72 Driver's Side Armrest Source
FTE 61-79 - Brownie's Alive!!!
FTE 61-79 - Lokar part numbers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Brownie's Alive!!!
FTE 61-79 - 4V Carb for FE
FTE 61-79 - LMC cataloge
Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin Joe Camel
FTE 61-79 - Parking brake
FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...
Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...
Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...
Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4V Carb for FE
Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...
FTE 61-79 - 351M & coolant was Smokin Joe Camel
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Parking brake
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
FTE 61-79 - FE Cam apacer
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam apacer
FTE 61-79 - Ford manual
FTE 61-79 - 460 hp
FTE 61-79 - Pushrods FE
FTE 61-79 - OD
FTE 61-79 - Pushrod lengths
FTE 61-79 - Adjustable pushrods
FTE 61-79 - 6-cyl to 302 swap and exhuming old engines
Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes
FTE 61-79 - web page update
Re: FTE 61-79 - Pushrods FE
Re: FTE 61-79 - Adjustable pushrods
FTE 61-79 - '67-'72 Disc Brakes
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam apacer
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford manual
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Weird FE Water Pump
FTE 61-79 - Engine rebuild books
Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine rebuild books
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 hp
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
FTE 61-79 - Restore '76 F100?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Brownie's Alive!!!
FTE 61-79 - 68-72 Driver's Side Armrest Source
FTE 61-79 - Bronco flooding
Re: FTE 61-79 - Restore '76 F100?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Restore '76 F100?
FTE 61-79 - Diesel in '66

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:02:10 GMT
From: Brian Vance
Subject: FTE 61-79 - emissions sticker

Was wondering what the "AT" stands for as it applies to the emissions
stickers I see for sale at different places. Is it Automatic Transmission?
I have a 77 351M standard. Is there any difference between the two? My
sticker was blown off the valve cover long ago, would like to get a new one
but all I see is "AT". Even on the Ford Truck Enthusiast site. Was this
the only one available? If anyone may know I would appreciate the help.
Thanks in advance!!!

Brian
77 F250 4X4 351M
"The Pickle"


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:40:16 -0700
From: "Scott Jensen"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pushrod

Whoop, Whoop, Whoop, Danger, Danger! There's no such thing as a '67
Torino.
What?..yes there were, and they came with 390's.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:17:12 EDT
From: JefriHansn aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Door panels

While we're on the subject - does anyone have, or know who has a
drivers side door panel - Money Pit Green in color? Mine busted this winter
into millions of peices because I had to slam the door really hard to get it
to close. Got the new hinges on now and would like to get the door covered.
I know JCWhitney sells brand new ones, in every color but my Money Pit Green.
I still have the padded armrest and finger cup - just need the panel.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:10:36 -0500
From: "Corey Johnson"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Weird FE Water Pump

Sound kinda like the problem I have.. I have a 352 with a water pump that
matches NOTHING in the books or computers... In April when I rebuilt my
engine I decided to replace everything along with it including the water
pump...
Luckily AutoZone had one, took it home painted it, mounted it.. went to put
on the pully... Dont fit??!?#
Took it back with my original and the necks were definitely different.. Ok
so cross reference mine.. Nothing, zilch, nada.

OH well mine still works so I just painted it and threw it on... Any ideas?



William L. Ballinger wrote:

> I'll tell you something I saw this weekend while working at AutoZone. A
> guy came in with a water pump, and one of the other zoners was waiting
> on him.

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:24:37 -0400
From: "Upchurch, Jason"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging prob.

I had a similiar problem, one thing I can tell you is make sure you have really good grounds, and of course good connections from your regulator.
If all fails you can always go with a onewire setup!
Yes they make them for us now!
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:26:24 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1976 Super Cab FS

Having owned several Ch vy and G*C trucks in my heathen days, I know that
3+3 referred to the crew cabs that had a second seat. You could also get a
crew cab without a second seat called a Bonus Cab. I have seen lots of
dealer literature, but never a Bonus Cab in the flesh, er steel.

IMHO King Cab is a Ni$ term, not a Ford term.

Ford=Supercab
Nissan=King Cab
Isuzu=Space cab
Dodge=Club Cab

- -- John
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1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:27:12 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - voltage regulator

Bas,

Your volt meter appears to be off a little. When the engine is off, you
should read exactly 12 volts. When charging, the system should not exceed
14.2 volts and typically should read 13.8. Older systems with mechanical
regulators vary more than systems with solid state regulators. Solid state
systems should read 13.8 always regardless of load or rpm if they are
functioning properly. Steady voltage is required for solid state ignition
systems to work properly.

- -- John
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:27:45 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - swap meet

Hey Gang,

Seems you wanted to know about shows, swap meets, etc. There will be a swap
meet on July 3 and 4 in Belton, Texas at the Little Valley Auto Ranch. It is
on US 190 West about two miles west of Interstate 35. I have never been to
the meet. It is nationally advertised and features all brands. If any of you
plan to come, let me know and I will see if I can meet you there.

- -- John
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:11:20 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Door panels

> While we're on the subject - does anyone have, or know who has a
>drivers side door panel - Money Pit Green in color?

I know exactly the color you're lookin for (the same as mine :), and I've
never seen them, I was going to get black (grey if I could find it) and
just dye/paint them .... lemme know if you do find any though.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:59 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pushrod

At 04:40 AM 6/28/99 , you wrote:
>Whoop, Whoop, Whoop, Danger, Danger! There's no such thing as a '67
>Torino.
>What?..yes there were, and they came with 390's.

Those were Fairlane's, Fairlane 500 to be precise ... the Torino became an
option on the Fairlane in late 68 I think it was ... it was an "upscale"
Fairlane, with all the little goodies that the "luxury" crowd wanted on
their cars ...

But I digress, before this turns into another "mustang" post...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:14:56 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Weird FE Water Pump

> Has anyone ever seen one of these before? I
>figure he can swap front covers and put a normal FE water pump on it,
>does anyone know if the blocks were cast differently between US and
>Mexico?

Supposedly the Mexican blocks are thicker and stronger ... but that's just
a rumor, never actually seen any hard evidence of it. Lots of people are
looking for the Mexican "windsors" for that reason, but I've never seen
reference to a Mexican FE ... I think the thread about the irrigation motor
might be a good one to look up ... try looking up the Ag section of your
older books and see if they have a waterpump for a stationary motor listed ??


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:16:46 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 69 Update

>Well, today Montana Mark and I (CJ) finished up the 78 project (F-250 4x4
>frame off resto) and started on CJ's old red "Disco Rig" (69 F-100/F250 4x4).
>Anyway, pulled the front clip, the 390, the old NP 435 and the Dana 21. We
>actually got the new NP 435 and 205 in place....
>
Wow, someone's been workin hard ... I suppose you're gonna save droppin the
FE in until Tony and I get there to give him an initiation about how heavy
a "real" motor is ... :)

Sounds like a great project though ... good luck!


Just my 2cents

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:20:35 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

>Can Anybody please advise where on the net can I find a detailed description
>of what everything on the Engine ID sticker means.

Hmmm...I don't think I've ever run into this ... what sorts of things are
you having problems with on the sticker ? I think most of it is self
explanitory, but maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing ...

> I would like to identify
>a second hand engine (400) which I bought to use as a transplant into my 79
>F100.
>
I would think the first step would be to be sure its really a 400, and not
a 351M with a different valve cover on it ... you might try pulling a spark
plug, putting a dowell in the hole and checking the stroke by making a mark
at TDC and then rolling the motor 180deg and making another mark (BDC)
...this should give you a rough guess of the stroke ... 3.5=351 4.0=400
...granted because of errors in measurement you won't get exactly either of
those, but you should be closer to one than the other ...


She currently runs with a 302 Cleveland which is sipping just a little
>too much oil to my liking.
>

Hmmm... 302's were actually Windsor blocks ... and I think (but am not
sure) that the windsors and M series blocks use different bolt patterns on
the tranny, so this may cause a problem....


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:31:45 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

William S Hart wrote:
>

> > I would like to identify
> >a second hand engine (400) which I bought to use as a transplant into my 79
> >F100.
> >
> I would think the first step would be to be sure its really a 400, and not
> a 351M with a different valve cover on it ...

valve cover and sticker are the same. All stickers said 351m/400 on
them.

you might try pulling a spark
> plug, putting a dowell in the hole and checking the stroke by making a mark
> at TDC and then rolling the motor 180deg and making another mark (BDC)
> ...this should give you a rough guess of the stroke ... 3.5=351 4.0=400
> ...granted because of errors in measurement you won't get exactly either of
> those, but you should be closer to one than the other ...
>
> She currently runs with a 302 Cleveland which is sipping just a little
> >too much oil to my liking.
> >
>
> Hmmm... 302's were actually Windsor blocks ... and I think (but am not
> sure) that the windsors and M series blocks use different bolt patterns on
> the tranny, so this may cause a problem....

Yes, 302's small block bolt pattern while 351m/400 uses big block bolt
pattern.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:38:39 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin Joe Camel

Thanks for your message at 01:53 PM 6/25/99 -0700, Bill Beyer. Your message
was:
>Not to be nit picky but the 351M/400 engines don't have coolant running thru
>the manifold. >
Is this true for the 351M? I thought it was only true for the 351C...but I
could be wrong again...

(Note trimmed reply, y'all. This is how it's done.)


Dennis L. Pearson

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:46:48 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68-72 Driver's Side Armrest Source

Yes, the mid-70's vans had the same style as well that will bolt right into
the existing mounts.....check the junkyards.....but it sounds like Stu's
place would be the way to go.....

CJ
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:10:24 -0400
From: David Henderson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brownie's Alive!!!

There have been many people you have e-mailed me interested in how my
rebuild project has gone, so I thought I would just e-mail the list.

As of about 7PM Eastern Time, Brownie was revived from a week long coma. An
independent observer (the kind soul who let me remove the old engine and
install the new one in his garage) noted that with open headers, a 300 I6 sounds
much akin to a Cessna being red-lined. So, Tony, you were right!

Here are three things you will need to watch out for and plan for:
1) Tony M. did not do the water jacketed Clifford intake, so he may not have
had this problem. The number 7 exhaust/intake manifold bolt (in tightening
order) needs the holding washer ground down about 3/8 of an inch on one side
only in order to install the new 4 bbl. intake.
2) Do not make the modifications to your alternator bracket as mentioned in the
instructions for the headers from Clifford. They will not resolve the problem
with clearing the number 1 header. Instead, use three 2 1/4 inch solid spacers
between your alternator bracket and block and get longer alternator belts (about
2 inches longer in circumference)
3) Get the Lokar throttle cable (24 inch) and bracket (with return springs) kit
from Summit. Do not think that you can fabricate your own easily (or that you
local auto parts store can get a longer throttle cable in a reasonable amount of
time, you will need both).

Problems number two and three can hold you up for a few days, even though they
are quite simple (shipping time, locating solid spacers- a stack of washers
will work, though). http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.summitracing.com and
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cliffordperformance.com are invaluable resources for performance and
specialty parts for your 300 I6, in addition to the people on this list like
Tony M.

Well, one thing I have not yet learned about these trucks is how to properly
adjust a carb (lessons, helpful hints would be appreciated). So Brownie is at
my favorite shop this morning getting his carb adjusted and then he's off to the
exhaust shop to have the headers connected. It is a nice feeling to have
completed this job and hopefully it will bring me many years of enjoyment.
Thanks to all who helped me with suggestions on this project!!

Dave H

P.S. Performance notes later.

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\( Gig 'em Aggies! '93

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:57:46 -0400
From: David Henderson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lokar part numbers

Here are the Lokar part numbers from Summit for the throttle cable and kit.

Cable - LOK-TC-1000U
Bracket - LOK-SRK-4000

Good luck!!

Dave H

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:11:05 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brownie's Alive!!!

>As of about 7PM Eastern Time, Brownie was revived from a week long coma. An
>independent observer (the kind soul who let me remove the old engine and
>install the new one in his garage) noted that with open headers, a 300 I6
>sounds
>much akin to a Cessna being red-lined. So, Tony, you were right!
>
Doncha love the sound of the motor firing after major work though ...

>Well, one thing I have not yet learned about these trucks is how to properly
>adjust a carb (lessons, helpful hints would be appreciated). So Brownie is at

I've got kind of a simple page right now, I need to get some pics, but
don't have a vehicle at home with a carb on it (when did that happen?) 'til
I get my truck back in a few weeks (traded with Dad) ...here's the address
for the text...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/tech/tuneup/tune.html


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:07:24 -0400
From: "J. Doss Halsey"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4V Carb for FE

Folks,

I am coming along nicely on my 390 rebuild. I have carefully painted all
the bits. I have the block and heads back from the machine shop. I am ready
to assemble except for one little thing. Moly cam lube. The engine kit
supplier (Melling) includes an "engine assembly lube" for general use on
bearings, etc. They say to use it on the new cam (parkerized surfaces).
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a moly based cam lube. The regular auto
parts stores don't seem to carry it. (It comes with new cams, they say.)
Any thoughts on engine assembly lubes?

BTW what does (trade name) "Lubriplate" consist of? It is that which I
seek? Where can I get some?

Also, does anyone have a spare 4V carb they wouldn't mind parting with? I
think I would like an Autolite 4100 large bore, but I will entertain other
suggestions. I acquired, painted and prepped a lovely 4V manifold and it
has 4 (lonely) holes in the top that need filling.

TIA,

Doss Halsey
'68 F250 Camper Special
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:56:42 -0500
From: "Smith, Brian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - LMC cataloge

Brent et al,

LMC is a decent company to deal with. I've dealt with their other division,
Victoria British, for about 15 years. Don't expect you order taker to know
anything specific about your vehicle though, they are just there to take
orders. Deal with them with confedence.

Brian H. Smith
1959 TR3
1972 Spitfire IV
1977 TR7
Lake Charles, LA
and a 1967 F100
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:05:55 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin Joe Camel

Yep all of the 335 series are dry manifolds...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Dennis Pearson
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin Joe Camel


>Thanks for your message at 01:53 PM 6/25/99 -0700, Bill Beyer. Your message
>was:
>>Not to be nit picky but the 351M/400 engines don't have coolant running
thru
>>the manifold.

>Is this true for the 351M? I thought it was only true for the 351C...but I
>could be wrong again...



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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:07:40 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Parking brake

Hey guys !
I was wondering if anyone has ever replaced a parking/emergency brake
cable before, and if so how difficult was it? Can anyone give me some
pointers on how to do it or any hints/tricks that may be of help. My
F250 4spd. has no parking break and I live in the hills of Southeast
Ohio which means a parking break is a good thing to have. I seen and
heard of too many people chasing their vehicles down the hill because it
slipped out of gear. I'd prefer this not happen to me. What's an
average cost of a cable?
Thanks in advance !

- --
Rob
'78 F 250 - 400M - 4 spd.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:10:02 -0500
From: "Smith, Brian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...

I have a oppurtunity to buy a complete 5.0L EFI manifold (for $10!). Can I
buy (or steal,borrow,fashion,etc) the computre control for this thing and
fit it to my 351W with 302 heads. Looking to build a ford "frankenmotor"
with cheap or free part for my '67.

Brian H. Smith
1959 TR3
1972 Spitfire IV
1977 TR7
Lake Charles, LA
and a 1967 f100
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:15:59 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...

>I have a oppurtunity to buy a complete 5.0L EFI manifold (for $10!). Can I
>buy (or steal,borrow,fashion,etc) the computre control for this thing and
>fit it to my 351W with 302 heads. Looking to build a ford "frankenmotor"
>with cheap or free part for my '67.
>
Nope, sorry ... you can get the EFI to work, I was just discussing this
with a couple of people, but you can't bolt a 302 manifold to a 351 ...
well you can bolt one side of it I guess, but then the other side will be
about an inch short ... even with the heads swapping, the 351 has a wider
block.

Incidently does anyone know if the truck upper intake is mounted 180 from
the 'stang version ?


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:11:33 -0700
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...

>
> Incidently does anyone know if the truck upper intake is mounted 180 from
> the 'stang version ?
>

On my last injected truck, a Lightning it was...
-srw

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:24:03 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...

At 10:11 AM 6/28/99 , you wrote:
>>
>> Incidently does anyone know if the truck upper intake is mounted 180 from
>> the 'stang version ?
>
>On my last injected truck, a Lightning it was...

Sorry I didn't ask the question correctly ... what I was getting at was,
would it be possible to run a mustang style upper, but mount it facing the
other way ?

I gotta learn english sometime.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:28:17 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4V Carb for FE

I'm rebuilding one myself. I can't tell you exactly what Lubriplate is, but my
machinist said it was the way to go. I'm using it on the bearing surfaces and
using the "moly" on everything else.

I got both at NAPA.

- -Ted






Also, does anyone have a spare 4V carb they wouldn't mind parting with? I
think I would like an Autolite 4100 large bore, but I will entertain other
suggestions. I acquired, painted and prepped a lovely 4V manifold and it
has 4 (lonely) holes in the top that need filling.

TIA,

Doss Halsey
'68 F250 Camper Special
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:17:19 -0700
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...

I have wondered that too.
I am pretty sure you can.
The intake looks pretty symmetrical front to back so it should work.
I wonder if a stock truck lower would bolt to a 5.0 upper.
-srw

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'65 F100

- ----- Original Message -----
From: William S Hart
To:
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 litre FI stand alone computer...


> At 10:11 AM 6/28/99 , you wrote:
> >>
> >> Incidently does anyone know if the truck upper intake is mounted 180
from
> >> the 'stang version ?
> >
> >On my last injected truck, a Lightning it was...
>
> Sorry I didn't ask the question correctly ... what I was getting at was,
> would it be possible to run a mustang style upper, but mount it facing the
> other way ?
>
> I gotta learn english sometime.
>
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> wish
>
> Links
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:57:54 -0800
From: "Erik Marquez"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M & coolant was Smokin Joe Camel

Yup it's true, the coolant intake for the engine is forard of the intake on
the block, manifold is dry. of course for this convinince, ford stuck us
with the "vally pan"
snip
>>Not to be nit picky but the 351M/400 engines don't have coolant running
thru
>>the manifold. >
>Is this true for the 351M? I thought it was only true for the 351C...but I
>could be wrong again...


Erik Marquez
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:50:10 CDT
From: Jett Rink
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

Verify the engine code on the block, this will identify it as either a 351M
or 400M. By the way, "M" engines are actually called 335 series due to their
3.35" con rod length, as 429s/460s are referred to by Ford as 385 series.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sean O'Malley"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Parking brake

> I was wondering if anyone has ever replaced a parking/emergency brake
> cable before, and if so how difficult was it?

The cables themselves are pretty cheap. Installation is about like
replacing brake shoes, since it's usually the cables running from the
rear drums to the Y-junction that go. To replace them, you have to pull
the drums to get to the business end of the cable.

- --sean
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:09:30 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

Heh, heh... a 3.35 inch connecting rod, nope, sorry, don't think so, try
6.580 inch connecting rods (6.605 for 385 series) Also the "engine code" on
the block won't necessarily tell you whether or not it's a 351M or 400 since
they both used the same block. The only way to tell is to pop the oil pan
and check the casting # on the crank, not always foolproof since I have a
400 crank AND a 351M crank with no casting #s on them or do the old pull a
plug and measure the stroke with a stick routine.

Oh yeah 1 more thing, they're not 400Ms, they're just plain ol' 400s.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jett Rink
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes


>Verify the engine code on the block, this will identify it as either a 351M
>or 400M. By the way, "M" engines are actually called 335 series due to
their
>3.35" con rod length, as 429s/460s are referred to by Ford as 385 series.



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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:20:18 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam apacer

Ted Freeman writes: >>
While I'm asking silly questions...Do all FE's have a cam spacer on them?

The earlier ones had a spacer seperate from the cam, but I believe the later
ones had it made onto the cam, and all the aftermarket ones I've used had the
spaces built into the cam as an offset. At least this is the way I remember it,
which may or may not be correct.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:52:40 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam apacer

Thanks Azie,

I thought this was the case, but had to ask before I got started. I know I
didn't take one out, but didn't know if someone else had been in there and
removed it.

Thanks,

- -Ted


While I'm asking silly questions...Do all FE's have a cam spacer on them?

The earlier ones had a spacer seperate from the cam, but I believe the later
ones had it made onto the cam, and all the aftermarket ones I've used had the
spaces built into the cam as an offset. At least this is the way I remember it,
which may or may not be correct.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.











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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:05:48 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford manual

Can anyone tell me how many volumes there are in the complete factory
service manual for 1979 pickups?

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:34:18 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 hp

Mr Jones writes: >>How much more powerful is this engine than the one in my
truck. Would
the swap be worth the trouble, or could I spend a similar amount of
money and make my own engine as or more powerful?

The '71 was the last year of Hi compression, so I would guess the increase in HP
to be in the neighborhood of 50+ over a '77 truck 460. This is just a guess,
but the earlier ones are much more powerful. The Higher compression is not
always an advantage though. If you aren't going to be hauling or pulling
anything heavy for long distances, then the High compression will probably be
OK, but if you are going to lug it for fairly long distances at a time, then I
recommend you stay with the lower compression of the '77.

All JMHO.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:35:53 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pushrods FE

Jason writes: >>And yes,
there are six different size pushrods!

Well blow me down!!!! And I have Steve Christs book. Just haven't read it
thru and thru yet!!! My wife gave it to me for Fathers Day. I would never have
thought it.

You also state that it probably is a '61 or '62 Hi perf block. If it is, then
hydraulics can't be run in it at all. There are no oil passages thru the lifter
bores......

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:54:54 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OD

Barry writes: >>the rearend has a 3.70 ratio, is that a proper ratio for the
o/d?

The 3.7 is OK with OD. I personally like the 3.5 better, but lots of them came
stock with 4.11.

The OD tranny has a bit lower 1st gear, so it will handle a 3.5 with ease on
take offs.

You will need the electricals in order for it to work. The input splines are
sometimes different so you might have to buy a new clutch. It may also be
longer than the current 3 speed, so a new (shorter) driveshaft may be in order.
can't think of anything else.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:25:36 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pushrod lengths

Dennis writes: >> Only after I had these did I see
the thread about different push rod lengths (a long scream goes here).
The block was out of a 67 Torino according to the seller the numbers I
found on it were
On the drivers side front

I don't think you have a problem on the FE. I think all the different years
used the same block height, so the same pushrod lengths. Not sure of this but I
believe it to be true. The different pushrod lengths apply to the Windsor
series and the 385 series. Not sure about the 335's.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:29:37 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Adjustable pushrods

Bill writes: >>The only other option is an adjustable
valvetrain but I don't know jack about FEs so maybe that's not an option.

Adjustables are available for the FE. You need rockers,shafts and pushrods.
Another reason to use adjustables is that the ratio of the adjustable rocker is
a bit more, so will give more effective lift at the valve with all other things
being the same. (no cam change).

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:45:09 -0500
From: wiregoat juno.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 6-cyl to 302 swap and exhuming old engines

I know this subject must be done to death, but, I only have e-mail and no
way to access the archives.
I tossed a connecting rod in my beloved 240 i6 '68 f-100, t-18 trans. I
traded a propane tank for a 302 and automatic out of a '71 Galaxy. This
car ran great until the owner joined the army twenty years ago. I
personally witnessed all of this. My questions are, What must I do to
safely resurect this engine, and, what grab-me-gotchas will I get into
sticking it in place of the 240?



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to others.

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:42:47 -0700
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes

At 01:48 AM 6/16/99 EDT, you wrote:
>my 79 F-250 is fitted with 31X9" tires on 17" 8-lug "steelies." In
addition
>to looking like crap they look too skinny because the truck rides so high,
>i'd like to upgrade to 33x10 or 11.5 " tires with 16" wheels, problem is i

My '78 bronco has 33x11.5 tires and no lift. Works like a charm, no rubs
even with the axle up against the stops.

On the freeway I think my mileage increased because of the tires. I get
about 12 mpg (C6 auto) so with a 4sp standard you probably get more. I
wouldn't get the other gears unless you want a locker or are pulling
trailers up and down the hills.

Bas.
78 bronco / 351M / C6


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:07:29 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - web page update

At last, I, too, have updated my web page. Wish inspired me. I now have pics
that show Henry before and after the transformation. There are also before
and afters of the big bash last summer. You can get an idea of my skill (or
lack of) as a body man. I have some more pics somewhere that show the
tailgate now and there is also a stripe on the hood that doesn't show in any
of these. Oh well, tomorrow is also a day.......

- -- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:02:32 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pushrods FE

> You also state that it probably is a '61 or '62 Hi perf block. If it is, then hydraulics can't be run in it at all. There are no oil passages thru the lifter bores......
>
> Azie
> Ardmore, Al.

It depends! Some blocks were left undrilled, some were drilled but
plugged, and some were open. It depended on the particular application,
and not the casting number. Look at the rear of the block just above the
cam bore. You'll find two bosses on either side of the cam bore and just
above it. These are your lifter oil galleys. If there's a plug in these
bosses, your block is drilled for hydraulics. Now look in the lifter
valley. The center ridge running the length of the valley is the oil
supply galley from the front cam and crank bearings. Towards the rear of
the block you'll find two more bosses that run through the oil supply
galley. If your block has plugs in these bosses, you'll need to pull one
out and look down the hole. It should be open for hydraulic lifter
usage. If it has plugs installed below the top(center) galley, the
passages are drilled, but blocked for solid lifter usage. Any
questions? This can be confusing!
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:22:42 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Adjustable pushrods

I believe the ration is 1.73:1 with the hydraulic and 1.76:1 with the
adjustable.

- -Ted




Bill writes: >>The only other option is an adjustable
valvetrain but I don't know jack about FEs so maybe that's not an option.

Adjustables are available for the FE. You need rockers,shafts and pushrods.
Another reason to use adjustables is that the ratio of the adjustable rocker is
a bit more, so will give more effective lift at the valve with all other things
being the same. (no cam change).

Azie
Ardmore, Al.












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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:10:14 -0500
From: sjacobi fd9ns01.okladot.state.ok.us
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '67-'72 Disc Brakes

I have seen and am well versed on the tech article on disc brake conversion on
the web site but, I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience
with other aftermarket disc brake systems for this group of model years. I
recently saw in Custom Classic Trucks magazine an ad from Master Power brakes.
Any experience good or bad? Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Steve

1967 F100 Camper Special
460 C-6


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:24:36 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam apacer

> Ted Freeman writes: >>
> While I'm asking silly questions...Do all FE's have a cam spacer on
them?
..............

> The earlier ones had a spacer seperate from the cam, but I believe the
later
> ones had it made onto the cam, and all the aftermarket ones I've used had
the
> spaces built into the cam as an offset. At least this is the way I
remember it,
> which may or may not be correct.
>
> Azie
..............

I thought that the cam spacer had been considered obsolete because the
newer timing gears (not the cam) have it cast into them?


Danger



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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:56:46 -0500
From: "Norm"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford manual

Bill.....there are 5 volumes to the factory manuals....;..and also a facts
book......and a few other suplamants! If ya need something just yell i have
them all!

Norm/Tracie dahorse jvlnet.com " Babied & Pampered"
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> Can anyone tell me how many volumes there are in the complete factory
> service manual for 1979 pickups?
>


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:30:36 CDT
From: Jett Rink
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

I would have to refer you to the Ford Motorsport catalog.


>From: "Bill Beyer"
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
>Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:09:30 -0700
>
>Heh, heh... a 3.35 inch connecting rod, nope, sorry, don't think so, try
>6.580 inch connecting rods (6.605 for 385 series) Also the "engine code" on
>the block won't necessarily tell you whether or not it's a 351M or 400
>since
>they both used the same block. The only way to tell is to pop the oil pan
>and check the casting # on the crank, not always foolproof since I have a
>400 crank AND a 351M crank with no casting #s on them or do the old pull a
>plug and measure the stroke with a stick routine.
>
>Oh yeah 1 more thing, they're not 400Ms, they're just plain ol' 400s.
>
>"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jett Rink
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:51 AM
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes
>
>
> >Verify the engine code on the block, this will identify it as either a
>351M
> >or 400M. By the way, "M" engines are actually called 335 series due to
>their
> >3.35" con rod length, as 429s/460s are referred to by Ford as 385 series.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:44:18 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

Well you can refer me to it all day it's not going to make the conn rods
3.35 inches. I have 8 of them in my garage and I can guarantee they're not
3.35". As far as the blocks go once again, they're the same. They were
forged in either Michigan or Cleveland and have the same casting #s. The
only difference between a 351M and a 400 is the crank and pistons.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Jett Rink
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes


>I would have to refer you to the Ford Motorsport catalog.



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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:32:38 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Weird FE Water Pump

In a message dated 6/28/99 6:20:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wish iastate.edu
writes:


a rumor, never actually seen any hard evidence of it. >>

I thought this only applied to Mexican 302 blocks, as they have a higher
nickel content. I could be wrong though.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:30:23 -0500
From: Larry Brown
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Engine rebuild books

Does anyone know of a book on rebuilding the 302/351W series engines with
the detail that the Steve Christ book has.

Larry

"The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four people is
suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best
friends. If they're okay, then it's you."
-Rita Mae Brown

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:40:25 -0700
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine rebuild books

Yes a book by Tom Monroe
Called
How to Rebuild Ford Engine V8
ISBN 0-89586-036-8

Mike in Burien

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:48:22 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 hp

In a message dated 6/28/99 11:32:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
am14 chrysler.com writes:

>
not quite. Its more like 160 hp difference. (385 hp vs 220)Not only did they
drop compression, they went to a real crappy cam.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:21:32 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

Thanks for your message at 04:44 PM 6/28/99 -0700, Bill Beyer. Your message
was:
>Well you can refer me to it all day it's not going to make the conn rods
>3.35 inches. I have 8 of them in my garage and I can guarantee they're not
>3.35". As far as the blocks go once again, they're the same. They were
>forged in either Michigan or Cleveland and have the same casting #s. The
>only difference between a 351M and a 400 is the crank and pistons.

If you don't believe it, go to

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/cleveland.html

and scroll down till you find the chart with rod length, etc for the
Cleveland family of engines--6.58 "right on!


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:35:35 CDT
From: Jett Rink
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

I had always understood the 400 was designated an M since the basic block
was derived from the 351C (albeit 1.100" taller) and I also remember the Y
blocks being differentiated by casting numbers.


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:38:58 CDT
From: Jett Rink
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Engine ID sticker / codes

Well, I'll be!


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:49:57 -0400
From: Tom Crowe
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Restore '76 F100?

I've got a chance to get a '76 F100 from a friend. It's got a I6 300 3
spd, the engine has a loud knock, you have to hold the gear shifter firmly
in place to keep it in gear, the interior is trashed, and there is very
little left of the paint (although the body isn't too bad considering it's
age). I'm interested for two reasons: (1) I like older Ford trucks and (2)
it would be cheap to buy.

My question is: what would I be getting into? My idea is to get the truck
and then work on it as I get some money here and there, but I have no
reference to how hard it would be to get parts or how expensive it would
be. I'm pretty much assuming that the engine and transmission would have
to come out (and then slide a V8 back in it's place!), the bed would have
to come off, new brake lines, springs, bushings, steering components, etc.,
etc..

So, am I nuts for considering this since I'll have limited money to throw
at it at any one time?

Thanks for your help!

Tom
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:16:29 -0500
From: "Darryl Wright"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brownie's Alive!!!

a 300 I6 sounds
much akin to a Cessna being red-lined

I think the quote is "I resemble that remark!"

It is funny you should make that analogy - Cessna put a Continental pancake
six of 300 cubic inches displacement in several aircraft, starting in the
late forties, and later evolved it into the I0-360 that was used (at 210 hp)
in the classic T-41B. At the original 145 hp, it was probably the smoothest
running aircraft engine out there, though a bit anemic for the aircraft it
powered. Redline for the engine was a measely 2750 rpm. Now if you cranked
that sucker up to about 3500 rpm (with a much shorter prop) it really did
scream (and shorten the life of the engine).
My new career has allowed me to push the throttles up on stuff that screams
about 36,000 rpm at redline, but the sound isnt the same - all we hear from
the flight deck is kind of a high-pitched whine.
Think the only vehicle manufacturers who put pancake sixes in back in the
good old days were the C**v**r and P*****e, right?
Nobody has found a good reason to put a good pancake six in one of our
F-250s.
Too bad.

Congratulations on the awakening!

Darryl Wright
Tillie 76 F-250, 460 Super Cab with a horse trailer behind. (hey, our
four-legged girls like the truck, too!)


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:18:39 -0700
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68-72 Driver's Side Armrest Source

Thanks to all for the great sources for the armrests and recovering
options. I'll probably opt for the replacements rather than the
restoration.

BTW, the armrests are plastic over foam innerds. There's a metal plate
on the back side that isn't visible when the armrests are installed.

As an added bonus, Stu "Nuke GM" responded and now I have his website
address to view the wonderful 71 restoration he has going.

Tim
Burien, WA
71 F100



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Date: 28 Jun 1999 21:39:54 -0700
From: Crfreed kktv.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bronco flooding

Hello,
I've got a 68 Bronco with a 73 302 - very hard to start when its sat for....


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