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61-79-list-digest Saturday, June 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 223



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse Armrest Parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - NP 203
Re: FTE 61-79 - Finally got those new kingpins...
Re: FTE 61-79 - "Finger Cups"
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse Armrest Parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Performance parts for a 300 I6
FTE 61-79 - 71 460
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse plastic armrest part?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Speed Bleeders?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Wheels fittin ...
Re: FTE 61-79 - manual gear box lubricant
FTE 61-79 - Re: Performance parts for a 300 I6
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Performance parts for a 300 I6
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted
FTE 61-79 - '66 F-100 Interior Parts & Pieces and 16.5" tire stuff
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse plastic armrest part?
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Conversion
FTE 61-79 - T-case lube

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:11:08 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse Armrest Parts

Hey, Stock Man handled it and is sending me the little parts I need....

Thanks Stock Man!

CJ
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:29:46 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP 203

> I am still a little confused about the np203 t-case. I have a
> 203 t- case that has obviously been changed to part time, but I now have
> 4hi, 4low, 2hi, and 2low. My shift knob is labeled as follows...
............

I've been watching the thread on T-cases and was wondering if there is a
way to ID the case by looking at an external item other than the shift knob.

When I had my T-18 rebuilt, The original shifter and knob where no
longer available so I ended up buying one for a later model (T-19?) which
showed reverse in the wrong place. The service tech that rebuilt the rear
end did a great job, but he couldn't get the truck out of the garage... hehe


Danger




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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:06:00 -0400
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Finally got those new kingpins...

>A couple of things could cause this. The first is that since the bolts
>were loose and allowing the steering box to move, you were probably moving
>the box itself before the steerin caught. The other thing is the worn
>tie-rods and king pins ... replacing all this stuff will set the system
>back to a like new state, there won't be anyplaces for slop any more. The
>other possibility is that the steering box was replaced with another one,
>the new one may be a quicker ratio box than the other. How long have you
>been driving it with the worn tie-rod and broken steering box? Likely its
>just better than its ever been and will take some getting used to ... but
>hey, wouldn't you love to get used to something as great as tight steering ?

Hmmm, hadn't considered the possibility of different ratio gearing in the
box. Driving to work today was a little better now that I'm starting to get
used to having to keep a firm grip on the wheel! I won't be don't the lazy
two finger grip on the wheel when I'm out on the highway this weekend.

Sure was nice to be able to do a nice smooth turn into my parking spot
today. Last week I had to do a six point turn to park it without nailing my
co-workers brand new car...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:03:07 -0400
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - "Finger Cups"

>There were some trucks sent out with metal "finger cups". A friend of mines
>'78 F-150 XLT had them. My plastic ones are broken as well (along with the
>door panels). At the beginning of next month I'm going back to San Antonio to
>visit my parents. I'm also planning on visiting a few of the local salvage
>yards. I'll try to scrounge up as many metal ones as I can find and let the
>list know how many I got. No requests yet though, please. Thanks!!

:-) That's exactly what I do when I go to the scrap yard - look for any
trucks with the metal ones and snag them. Ford probably switched to plastic
when they realized they could save a nickle on every truck they made...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:24:00 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse Armrest Parts

In a message dated 6/25/99 6:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS AOL.COM
writes:

> Hey, Stock Man handled it and is sending me the little parts I need....
>
> Thanks Stock Man!


You are more than welcome CJ.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:14:47 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Performance parts for a 300 I6

In a message dated 6/25/99 6:37:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DHenders VT.Edu
writes:


http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cliffordperformance.com >>

Dont forget Offy.
Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:51:44 -0500
From: Michael Ray Jones
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 460

Need some advice -

I've found a 71 Lincoln Mark III with a 460 rated at 365 hp that I could
buy fairly reasonably. I'm considering buying it to swap into my 77
F150 that now has a 460. My truck motor is not in bad shape, but I
believe the Lincoln to be much more powerful. The car only has 80,000
miles on it and the motor is strong.

How much more powerful is this engine than the one in my truck. Would
the swap be worth the trouble, or could I spend a similar amount of
money and make my own engine as or more powerful?
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:23:01 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse plastic armrest part?

In a message dated 6/25/99 10:09:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com
writes:


screws
in just behind the armrest? Any color will do....just need one.... >>

I dont have one, but I just wanted to say that the 73 and 74 years got metal
cups. They are the sweet deal. I recomend to everyone they find some.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:29:47 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Speed Bleeders?

In a message dated 6/25/99 12:14:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dyerhot nwchiro.edu writes:

>

I LOVE mine. I used it for the first time on Tweety, mainly to flush the
system, and Ive never driven an old Ford with brakes as good as this. They
had been kinda mushy, but after that. WOW. Talk about a difference.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:34:28 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Wheels fittin ...

In a message dated 6/25/99 1:15:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wish iastate.edu
writes:


>bringing up an old subject here but im pretty sure 16.5 rims are the
smallest
>size that will fit, pretty much telling me i have to get smaller brakes? >>

As far as I know, 16.5's, and 16's are the same, except for the bead. (and
some manufactuer variences) I was gonna put 16's on Tweety when I got new
rims, but I figured I had a better tire selection with the 16.5. BTW, my
dads 75 F-250 with front and rear Dana 60's has 15s. A lil grinding of the
front calipers, and they fit just perfectly. I dont recommend an amateur do
this, as if you go to far, you will break the caliper in half the first time
yu step on em hard.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 17:36:56 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - manual gear box lubricant

Bas wrote:
> [Somebody cried out]
> > I went to check my steering box fluid on my 71 Bronco with manual
> > steering and found NO fluid in it!!! I checked the book and it
> > said I should add 90W gear oil, the local Ford dealer said the
> > same. My concerns are, that I did find a dark gray kind-of
> > packing grease stuff in there. I didn't see any

> AFAIK there should be gear oil in there. Was the grease on the
[snip]
> chilton says you should put both grease AND oil in it? That
> sounds kinda weird to me :)
> Also I've never seen a tube labeled "steering gear grease".

Well, chiltons is almost right :-)

The manual for my '70 F250 calls out for SAE 90 EP for 4x4
and P-series trucks, "Ford Steering Gear Grease, C3AZ-19578-A"
for all other F series with manaual steering.
- --
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:44:58 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Performance parts for a 300 I6

Ford Man said:
> I've used Clifford items on other Ford inlines with good results.
> They know their business.

Clifford always get good press. They
have been around for a long time and take 6s seriously.

You can also get 6-cyl parts from PAW, Performance Auto Warehouse. They are
the folks who have the jam-packed ads in the car magazines. The catalog is
about $5, but it's big -- about 2" thick and 1100+ pages. They are a good
source for engine rebuilding kits. Specifically for the 240-300, they have
the Offenhuaser intake manifolds. Of course, the catalog is filled with
tons of other fun stuff, too.

Performance Auto Warehouse: (818) 678-3000

- -don

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Don in Philadelphia, Internet Director - Keystone Chapter FCA
66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon, 61 Falcon Futura, and classic scooters
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:06:26 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Performance parts for a 300 I6

www.summitracing.com

summit has a few parts for ford 6 cyls

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:36:57 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted

maybe it is supposed to be super cab, but i have a friend that has one and it
has king cab on it, but it may not be factory decal? i don't know.

jeff grant
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:46:04 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted

i'm not as smart as i think i am, every other extended cab i have looked at
has the super cab on the window, but i promise a friend has a parts truck i
am thinking of buying, its a 78 and it says "king cab" BUT, it may not be the
original decal, it appears to be larger than the others i looked at.

sorry to get everyone rowled up

jeff grant
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:43:06 -0700
From: Kathy & Tina
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '66 F-100 Interior Parts & Pieces and 16.5" tire stuff

Good info on timing gear/chain replacements, I gotta do that job very
soon, as son's getting tired of playing taxi for me to get to work and
back. Thanks! Does anyone out there have a pair of non-destroyed
armrests for my '66? Just curious, need a pair, lemme know what you
want for 'em + freight, k? On tire sizes... 7.00 x 16.5 is going to
most likely be available through Coker, not probable you'll find 'em in
an everyday tire shop. 8.75 x 16.5 has a lot of choices, many Firestone
10-ply (E Load Range), a 50K mile Bridgestone, Dunlop A/T, Michelin XPS
Rib, plus a great assortment of bias ply choices... going up to the 9.50
x 16.5, the same Bridgestone, Goodyear Wrangler Rib, Goodyear A/T are
some of what's available... Goodyear makes a pretty good assortment of
bias ply tires in 16.5 sizes as well. The place I've found to have the
broadest assortment of choices in truck tires has been Sears Automotive
and their affiliates, National Tire and Battery... if not in stock,
easily ordered and the selections are incredible. Plus, they'll "beat
the competition's price by 5%, or double the difference back" (except
with wholesalers like Tire Rack, Costco, and Base Exchanges) which is
not such a bad deal. For going with a 5-lug 16" rim, I'd personally
recommend Alcoa, except I'm not certain they're offering 5-lug bolt
patterns anymore. I put a set of aftermarket 16" rims on a '72 F-250 w/
dual piston calipers, and they didn't work. Next choice... didn't
work. Tried again... still rubbed. These were Z-Racing aluminum
choices... what we found that would fit were any of the chrome-plated
steel rims, from any company. If you're looking for stock, I'd go with
Coker... their freight is a little spendy, but they're reputable. For
conversion on the 16" tire sizes, the 215-85-16 was equivalent to the
7.50 x 16... it'll be what... oh, about 1/4" wider, maybe that much
taller than original. If you want wider than the 215 but want the same
height, go w/ the 225-75-16 but you'll sacrifice load range, as these
are predominantly in an 8 ply rather than the 10 ply the 85 series has.
In the 16.5 rim diameter, the 8.00 x 16.5 is equivalent to the
31x10.50x16.5 and makes available BF Goodrich A/T T/A's and Mudders as
well as other choices. Tire Rack offers a CD that will do tire size
comparisons, allowing input of wheel width and tire sizes, and giving
back height, width, and pics of what the tire will look like compared to
the rim it's on... Great thing to have access to :) Personally, I'm
liking the lowered look my F-100 has, running 255-60-15's on old 60's
era American Racing aluminum slotted mags... 'course around here, w/ the
lowboy rage, it just fits right in... er, once I get it back on the
road, that is! LOL!! Thanks all for all of the great info, btw... this
is a great list :)

Kathy

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:59:37 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mickey Mouse plastic armrest part?

i need some too, are these still available from ford?

jeff grant
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:20:47 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Conversion

FTE- here is my latest update to convert your F100 with an FE to power
steering:

Description Ford P/N Years Qty Auto Zone P/N
Bracket-BT support C7TZ-2A275-A 67 1 none
Gear Unit C7TZ-3504-E 66-69 1 7532
Bracket- pump to block C5SZ-3C511-D 66 1 none
Bracket- pump to block C7TZ-3C511-D 67-70 1 none
Shaft- Steering (34.94" lg) C6TZ-3524-J 66 1 none
Shaft- Steering (34.94" lg) C6TZ-3524-M 66-68 1 none
Pitman Arm- Ford C6TZ-3590-H 66 1 none
Pitman Arm- Ford C7TZ-3590-F 67-69 1 none
Pitman Arm- Bendix C9TZ-3590-C 67-69 1 none
Spacer- Pump C5SZ-3D600-B 66-70 2 none
Pump C5TZ-3A674ERM 65-66 1 none
Pump C7TZ-3A674-A 67-69 1
Retainer- column bearing C6TZ-3D681-B 67 1 none
Hose- Return C6TZ-3A713-B 67 1
Hose- Hi Pressure C7TZ-#a719-J 67 1 70963
Bracket- Adjusting C5SZ-3A732-B 66-70 1 none
Pulley- Pump C5AZ-3A733-G 66-67 1 none
Pulley- Pump C7AZ-3A733-e 68-70 1 none
Retainer- Column Bearing C6TZ-3D762-A 67 1 none
Pulley- Crank C1AZ-6A312-C 66-67 1 none
Pulley- Crank C8AE-6312-D 68-?? 1 none
Belt- Pump C6AZ-8620-A 66-67 1 17460
Insulator B4Q-33638-B 66-70 5 none

This is all I have at this time. Anyone who can add or correct the above
info, please get back to me.

Tim (66F100 Custom cab SWB w/352 3 Speed w/OD & P/S)
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:16:48 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - T-case lube

My t- case is an unmarried system behing a c6 tranny. While we
are on this subject , what type of lubricant should I be using in a....

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