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61-79-list-digest Friday, June 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 220



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Somebody must know???
Re: FTE 61-79 - Over 10,000 gross
Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203]]]
FTE 61-79 - Tint installed
Re: FTE 61-79 - Stupid timing chain question
FTE 61-79 - Cast or forged...
FTE 61-79 - stall converters
Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 GVW Ratings (1964-72)
Re: FTE 61-79 - stall converters
FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 GVW Ratings (1964-72)
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
RE: FTE 61-79 - Cast or forged...
FTE 61-79 - Re: over 10,000 GVWR
FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?
Re: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.
FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab wanted
Re: FTE 61-79 - ignorant or stupid (little bit of both?)
Re: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.
Re: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: [FTE 61-79 - whining]
Re: FTE 61-79 - Cab terms
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: ENOUGH!
Re: FTE 61-79 - A Saturday at Tony "the KID" Marino's
FTE 61-79 - Levers
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?
FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on cam gear
FTE 61-79 - manual gear box lubricant
Re: FTE 61-79 - HP clutch
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 GVW Ratings (1964-72)
Re: FTE 61-79 - manual gear box lubricant
Re: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?
FTE 61-79 - Re: Bas's offroad photos
Re: FTE 61-79 - Multiple posts/Whining
FTE 61-79 - Finally got those new kingpins...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: [FTE 61-79 - Ignorant little children]
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
FTE 61-79 - Bas's offroad photos
FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question
FTE 61-79 - Door to ground height on 73 F-250, 4 X 4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question
Re: FTE 61-79 - whining
Re: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question
FTE 61-79 - re: fte-61-79-300six performance parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - re: fte-61-79-300six performance parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: over 10,000 GVWR

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:48:29 EDT
From: Steer1098 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Somebody must know???

Just No! (Or just say no if you are from the Nancy Reagan era) There was not
an F-350 over 10,000GVWR.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:50:55 EDT
From: Steer1098 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Over 10,000 gross

In Connecticut, 10,000 or less requires emission testing, 10,001 and over -
no test. But if the vehicle is over 25 years old regardless of weight, no
test. That's why I keep my '73 F-350 up and running!!!!
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Date: 24 Jun 99 15:53:53 CDT
From: Ford Man
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203]]]

Excuse me while I ponder some other empty threats. Okay, enough of that. =
Bring
it on, baby.

"Bill Beyer" wrote:
Naw! Doesn't hurt my feelings but I'm sure your ISP will have something t=
o
say about it. I've already sent a report to abuse usa.net. Have a nice
day...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ford Man
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203]]


>Does that hurt your feelings? WAAAH!!
>
>"Bill Beyer" wrote:
>Hey nimrod, is there a particular reason you're replicating all of wish'=
s
>posts to the list or are you just too stupid to figure out how the "Repl=
y
>to:" button works...
>



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:08:24 -0500
From:
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tint installed

Thanks to all for their input on window tinting.
I installed 35% vlt tint on the side and rear windows, cost was $13.
I figured if it turned out poorly, I could then have it done and not be
any worse off for the experience. I used 1 box and was able to cover
the all windows I wanted. If anyone wants details on how I did so
with one box, please email me off the list.

I was not interested in having the dark look so much as in trying to
keep the interior a little cooler so I chose 35% and put it on
reguardless of what Texas regs are, although I think I'm ok. I figure if
I get pulled over, I will roll down the window before the officer
approaches so hopefully it would go unnoticed.

John's idea of taking the windows off would make for a much nicer
looking job. And if I were to tint again,.......

I am watching the interior temps now that I have the tint on, but so far
it has not been real sunny here.

Thanks again
Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 FE, 4 speed
Houston, Texas


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:59:14 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Stupid timing chain question

>I bought a Comp Cams timing chain and the crank gear has the normal stamps
>in the for Advanced, Zero and Retard timing. I always thought the flat part
>of the gear faced the radiator and the concave side faces the motor. This
>gear has the marks to line up the timing on the concave side.
>
>Did they stamp the gear backwards or am I backwards(which is most likely the
>case)? This is an FE motor.
>
Just to add some confusion, the parts guy I was working with showed 3
different styles of timing chain for the 390, depending on what year it was
... I don't have any very good pics of the front of my motor, but it seems
there is a flat spot on the front for the fuel pump eccentric to sit on ...
if you put the bottom one on, you may be able to see that it won't line up
right if its too far off ... also looking at the old one you might be able
to find its orientation based on the wear patterns and the way the pin is
sticking out that drives the cam ...and the holes for the fuel eccentric
might be only on one side too ...

Just some thoughts to determine it, if I find a good pic of mine I'll send
it on ... mine's 74-76 though ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:05:50 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cast or forged...

OK I've given up on the Silv-O-Lites hypereutectics for my 400. They're
discontinued/out of production anyway and the only other 400 pistons that
UEM makes are still .020 destroked. So the question now is cast or forged
pistons. I checked on some sets from PAW. The forged are made by Fed. Mogul
and have a comp. dist. of 1.647, -.003 from stock, the cast are made by
Badger and have a comp. dist. of 1.637, -.013 from stock. I f I go with the
forged what do I tell the machine shop so that I avoid that annoying
"clatter" that poor fitting forged pistons make when cold?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:04:39 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - stall converters

Ok, I'm goimg to show my ignorance. I thought that an 1800 stall converter
meant that nothing is through put the TC until the engine RPM exceeded the
stall speed. I thought that this was so you could idle up a race cam without
ripping the guts out of your transmission.
What does the stall speed really mean?
How does it help you pull a trailer?
Did I miss something obvious?

- -- John
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1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:03:41 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 GVW Ratings (1964-72)

I'm not sure how well this post will get through given the "brisk" list
traffic today, but here goes:

I found it hard to believe that there wasn't any F-350's with a GVW
rating over 10k so I decided to check the MPC. As far as the 64-72 era is
concerned Ford offered Model No's F-350 through F-376. The GVW's ranged from
6600 to 10,000.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:10:39 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - stall converters

>Ok, I'm goimg to show my ignorance. I thought that an 1800 stall converter
>meant that nothing is through put the TC until the engine RPM exceeded the
>stall speed. I thought that this was so you could idle up a race cam without
>ripping the guts out of your transmission.
>What does the stall speed really mean?
>How does it help you pull a trailer?
>Did I miss something obvious?
>
Okay, there is some good information at the B&M site (www.bmracing.com),
they go through the basics ...

A stall converter (all converters are stall, I think this is just a generic
term for something other than stock) will allow the engine to pull that
many revs before it really engages and becomes super efficient ... IE it
allows "slip" ... to figure out what your stall is, put your foot on the
brake and pull the revs up until the car can't be held anymore (within
reason) ... this should be pretty close to your stall speed ... by going
with a higher stall you can get more revs before the engine gets full load
put on it, hence for pulling a trailer, you can get farther up in the rev
band to help you with pulling the trailer and reduce the "lugging" on the
engine.

I hope this makes some sense and clears things a little, though I think I
missed something obvious ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:12:20 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - whining

I'm new here. Somebody please tell me this bickering (the kind I've seen
today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't
normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying...
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:12:28 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 GVW Ratings (1964-72)

> I found it hard to believe that there wasn't any F-350's with a GVW
>rating over 10k so I decided to check the MPC. As far as the 64-72 era is
>concerned Ford offered Model No's F-350 through F-376. The GVW's ranged from
>6600 to 10,000.
>
This is what I have seen listed on the 73-79 sections too (the Red Book)
... only recently did the F550's get up to the 12,000 GVW, but that's
chassis cabs only I think ...

There was the F-Superduty for quite a while too, that was an F450 on most
documentation from the factory I think ... my uncle has one of these that
was used for hauling burial vaults ... nice truck for hauling ... wouldn't
want to commute in it though!


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:25:32 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

No actually this is the first time I've seen this kind of thread happen, at
least on this list, in the year and a half I've subscribed. It's really a
shame that one doofus has to try to wreck a nice, informative group.
Hopefully it won't be for much longer...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Southerland, Rich
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 2:14 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - whining


>I'm new here. Somebody please tell me this bickering (the kind I've seen
>today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't
>normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
>weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying...



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:29:45 -0700
From: "Steve Schwartz"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Cast or forged...

Bill,

Unless you're going racing, you don't want the forged pistons. They require
twice the initial clearance, are therefore noisy (as you noted), and
increase oil consumption.

When was the last time you ran hard enough to break a piston? Unless you
have a good answer (other than "never"), buy good quality cast pistons, and
set up them per the mfg, recommendations.

Best,
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Bill Beyer
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 2:06 PM
> To: Performance List; 61-79 List
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cast or forged...
>
>
> OK I've given up on the Silv-O-Lites hypereutectics for my 400. They're
> discontinued/out of production anyway and the only other 400 pistons that
> UEM makes are still .020 destroked. So the question now is cast or forged
> pistons. I checked on some sets from PAW. The forged are made by
> Fed. Mogul
> and have a comp. dist. of 1.647, -.003 from stock, the cast are made by
> Badger and have a comp. dist. of 1.637, -.013 from stock. I f I
> go with the
> forged what do I tell the machine shop so that I avoid that annoying
> "clatter" that poor fitting forged pistons make when cold?
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:24:33 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: over 10,000 GVWR

>Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:56:56 -0400
>From: James Oxley
>Subject: over 10,000 GVWR was; Re: FTE 61-79 - Somebody must know???
>
>> OX..... I am looking at my 1978 Ford spec books and
>> they are not showing anything over 10,000 GVW!! And
>> thats in a 2x4 cab and chassie! Interestingly enogh is
>> that they are not even showing the availability of a
>> F-350 in 4x4?..Go figure!!
>
> Reason I ask is that our new lift law only covers up
> to 10,000 lb GVWR and the new superduties come
>in over 10,000 lb GVWR, sooooo I assumed the older
> trucks with 4WD and camper special (or some
>combination thereof) must have had it too. I wonder
>what the laws are on over 10,000 lb GVWR???

Yo Ox:

Might need to check w/ your state's DOT to find out about local laws. You can
look up some of the federal regulatory stuff at the USDOT web site:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dot.gov/legandreg.htm

While you might get out of some regs aimed at "civilians," you might get into a
more onerous set of regs aimed at the commercial operator. Seems like a lot of
regulation of commercial vehicles puts the lower limit at 10K GVW. I remember a
few years ago, the feds outlawed radar detectors in vehicles over 10K GVW.

Ford never made an F350 4x4 until 1979. The 1979 F350 4x4 had a Dana 60 solid
front axle. From 1980 to 1985, the F350 4x4 used the Dana 50 TTB front axle
(similar to the F250HD). From 1986 to 1997, the F350 4x4 went back to the Dana
60 solid front axle. Not familiar w/ the new SD trucks, but I'm pretty sure
Ford always cut off the pickup-bodied F350s at 10K GVW, probably because of
commercial vehicle rules.

You might be able to get a chassis-cab F350 with over 10K GVW, and Ford did make
some 4x4 F350 chassis-cab units. The next step up from the F350, at least from
the mid-80s until 1997, was called the "F-Super Duty" (probably the equivalent
of the new F450 and F550). The F-Supers were all DRW. I've seen several 4x4
tow trucks around here based on that platform. The local phone co and utilities
co also have a few 4x4 F-Supers w/ small cherry pickers or utility bodies on the
back. (BTW, you could get the F-Super 4x4 w/ a Dana 70 solid front axle!)

If you're looking for the tallest stock height, the F250 "highboys" might be
your best bet. Dave Wallbeck (if he's still on the list) seems to be the 61-79
highboy aficionado.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:25:37 -0700
From: "Jeff Carver"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?

Is anybody out there still using 16 inch wheels?
Are you using bias ply or radials? Did radials
make any negative things happen to the truck?
What about the positive?

I've been looking for 16 inch wheels since they
are original to my truck, but I need at least one
more (two since I want a spare tire). Does anyone
have an extra pair hangin around in the Sacramento
area? 6x16 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern in the '64
vintage so I can use the original hubcaps. The
main source in Sacramento threw out the 16's
since nobody wanted them anymore.
E'cept me of course, I have to be different!

I'm think of getting bias ply tires on the old
rims for now, and save my pennies up to get a
set of new (old style) wheels and radials down
the road.

My parents are moving (after 40 years in the same
house) and need my truck for hauling stuff.

Jeff
'64 F100 CrewCab


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:38:43 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.

> >Now that we are discussing web sites.. check my photo album at
> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://bas.8m.com/photo/ . These are from the trips I made with the
>
> Wow, those are some great pics, beautiful scenery, beautiful trucks ...
> incredible!
Wow thanks! Yeah the US has some great places to go. It really paid off
to join with the club, I would never have had such a great time four
wheeling if it wasn't for them. Also there is always the security of
people being there in case you get stuck (happened twice so far!)

> I wish we could find Broncos like that around here, but to find them like
> that will cost you an arm and a leg.

I was amazed, here in silicon valley you see vehicles from the 50-60s
that hardly have any rust at all. Same with my bronco, I sometimes need
some liquid wrench to get bolts off but otherwise everything is very
clean. I bought it for $2500 from a charitable organization. From what I
understand it used to be a doctor's. He failed smog and donated it, then
the organization put a new engine in it, a 351M. It runs really nice and
has great oil pressure (60-75 psi when driving, depending on oil
type/temperature). I think they also put a new transmission in because
the tag on the side indicates a C4 but it has a C6.

Other than that there were a lot of things that had simply served their
lifetime and needed to be replaced. New wheel bearings, rebuild
driveshaft, stuff like that. I love american trucks, just the engine
sound makes my day. Just about every weekend I work on it or go drive
somewhere. It's al I need, all I do.

If you are interested, I compiled a list of things I did about it for I
am leaving the country and was considering selling it. But I just talked
to my uncle in BC, Canada. I may be able to leave it there until I come back.

Vehicle:
'78 bronco, 1st sold in '77 (one of the very few that still had the round
headlights), red/white two-tone, 116k miles, 351M, dual exhaust, C6 auto
trans, 33" tires, open differentials (Ford 9"), 33 gal gas tank, extra
off-roading lights. Body has a few scratches and dents but overall is
very nice.

Both engine and trans are newer than the vehicle; the seller said he put
a new engine in and he apparently replaced the transmission too because
the tag on the door indicates it originally had a C4. Engine gets 60 PSI
oil pressure. It looks like the vehicle is from out-of-state; it does not
have cats. I did pass smog with flying colors though.

Work done: Whole brake system is re-done (new master cylinder, almost all
new lines, new pads, new rotors in front, one new caliper, in the back all
new brake hardware, all new cylinders), got 5 gal spare gas tank, one new
hub, new heater core, $100 truck spark plug wires, new spark plugs, new
dist cap/rotor, most new gaskets (oil pan, valve covers, transmission pan,
front differential, transfer case output), new fuel pump and rubber lines,
all new wheel bearing and seals (except right rear), new axle bearing in
front, new sway bar and track bar bushings, new u-joints (front axle, rear
driveshaft, except front driveshaft which has no play), rebuilt/rebalanced
rear driveshaft (only tube is original), rebuilt steering column (new
bearings and gear selector), onboard air (york 2cyl) with pressure switch
and 5 gal air tank, all 1/2" hydraulic lines, 50ft quick connect hose,
tire inflator+gauge, new engine mounts, new 65 amp alternator, new
battery, all new belts and hoses, installed mechanical (accurate) oil
pressure gauge, new voltage regulator, new instrument panel, two tow
hooks, wheels recently balanced, installed big 5/16" thick skidplate,
transmission and transfer case serviced, 5 gal spare gas tank and probably
lots of other things I can't think of right now.. I have a 4" stack of
receipts.

Work I am going to do:
replace radiator with 4-core (no leaks on current one but it does not
seem to radiate very well), install rebuilt steering box, install 3rd tow
hook, install 2nd transmission cooler, maybe install electric aux fan,
replace bushings on track bar.

Work to be done sometime later in future:
The rear suspension is getting a bit weak. Good enough for on road but
off-road extra clearance would be welcome.

So, what do you think.. I bought it last august; all this was done in
about 10 months. Have I been active or what :)

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:46:57 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab wanted

Jeff, My 74 and 79 "SUPERCAB" say so on the extra side windows. I guess
the ones you are talking about are between that.

JJJJJGRANT aol.com wrote:

> the mid seventies ford truck with the extended cab were known as "king cab"
> and it says so on the back window. thank you very little.
>
> jeff grant

William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:41:53 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ignorant or stupid (little bit of both?)

next time some body gets to drive a 73-74 pantera they better take me along,
thats my single most favoritest car in the whol wild wide world
i think www stands for anyway, who thought up world wide web?

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:52:03 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.

I was having trouble with the links earlier, several of you mention that some
don't work, thought i had it fixed, thanks for bringing it to my attention,
and rob i certainly will put your page up,

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:54:27 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.

thanks wish, ill fix the links that don't work over the course of the next
few days, and if you want to put my link on your page, id have no problem
with that?

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:01:23 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

> No actually this is the first time I've seen this kind of thread happen, at
> least on this list, in the year and a half I've subscribed. It's really a

Speaking of which.. do you guys also get all these duplicate messages? At
least one in five messages I read I have read before. I am not talking
about quotes, but really the same sender, same time/date. Very annoying :(

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Date: 24 Jun 99 17:10:22 CDT
From: Ford Man
Subject: Re: [FTE 61-79 - whining]

There's alot of petty little individuals, on this list in particular, tha=
t
cry, whine, and worry their empty little heads and lives with insignifica=
nt
junk. These same people like to start arguments and then complain to the
moderator to have someone blackballed from all of the lists. They sure ca=
n't
take their own medicine.

"Southerland, Rich" wrote:
I'm new here. Somebody please tell me this bickering (the kind I've seen=

today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't=

normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying...
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:09:46 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cab terms

In a message dated 6/24/99 9:30:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sjensensr worldnet.att.net writes:


called 6packs. >>
why six packs? seems it would be 4 packs to me, theres only 4doors.
:-) hehe
ian
79 f250 "2pak" 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:18:00 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: ENOUGH!

Gang,

Anyone who's been here a while knows that I believe in free
flow of information --- yet I believe in maintaining high
administrative standards. Its one of the reasons, IMHO, that
I have come to regard many here as my friends. High standards
allows us to avoid the trappings of pettiness. I've learned
some painful lessons, how not to treat people on the Net, and
lost a couple of valuable friends because of flames and
sending an email without cooling off first. Knowledge is
gained by learning from one's experience. Wisdom comes
learning from the experience of others.

The pettiness has gone on long enough. I'm going to present
a few words on List Etiquette....

1. Please don't tell others what to post, either as a
suggestion or order. This includes "please use more
appropriate subject lines" to "we don't talk about THAT
here". If you have a concern about whether something is
off topic or not, please email the list den mother (me!)
and I will give the matter my full attention.

2. Rebuttals only make the problems worse.

3. Lurk for a while before your first post. This way, you'll
get an idea of the style and topics discussed on the list.

4. Read the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) on the web site.

5. Resist the urge to respond to flames. It only compounds
the problem.

6. Keep posts on topic and use descriptive subject lines.

8. Don't post comments that don't add anything (i.e., I
agree posts).

9. Remember that the net never forgets. Any time you flame,
it ends up in the list archives.

10. Don't respond to flame bait.

I could add more, but I think the message oughta be
clear by now.

Sincerely,
Ken Payne
AKA - "List Mom"
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:24:26 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A Saturday at Tony "the KID" Marino's

In a message dated 6/24/99 2:26:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wish iastate.edu
writes:

>
whats ,,,,money?
is that some sort of truck part?

ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:28:40 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Levers

William Hart writes: >>Uncle Azie, when are you going to get away from all
those levers ... the
new expeditions have this, only its controlled with an electric dial on the
dash, just rotate it around to whichever you want and the computer does it
all for you .

I want it in a '77 thru '79. I haven't looked at a new truck in 15 years.
Don't care for anything later than '79.

I don't have much use for computers. Takes all the fun out of it. I don't even
like the one I'm typing on right now. I do love the communication with FTE
however.

Azie
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:31:39 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

Thanks for your message at 02:12 PM 6/24/99 -0700, Southerland, Rich. Your
message was:
>I'm new here. Somebody please tell me this bickering (the kind I've seen
>today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't
>normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
>weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying...

It is not normal for this group. I was about to step in and comment that
this behavior is what I have witnessed on other inferior List-servs and
newsgroups--very lacking in maturity, not to mention FTE content.

I can only hope this is a temporary lapse of good taste and manners. This
has been an absolutely perfectly administed group. I have never been
involved in anything as helpful in the area of Ford Trucks, or any
automotive area, for that matter.

Perhaps my perception is off or my computer is playing some sort of sick
joke on me. If not, let's get back to Ford Trucks, please. We don't need
to post just for the sake of posting...

Excuse me, I have to think about fixing my electric fan on my Unibody. It
melted my switch and the insulation on the wire leading to it. Think I
need a relay?
Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:38:57 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?

Thanks for your message at 02:25 PM 6/24/99 -0700, Jeff Carver. Your
message was:
>Is anybody out there still using 16 inch wheels?
>Are you using bias ply or radials? Did radials
>make any negative things happen to the truck?
>What about the positive?

6x16 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern

My '66 F250 has radials on 16-inch 8-bolt pattern. I sort of inherited the
truck from my wife's grandfather when he passed away, so I can't really ask
any questions about it without a Ouija board.
The wheels look pretty new and the tires look rather old (not worn just
weathered). I take the truck out on the highway once in awhile, probably
not over 70 mph, and I have not noticed any irregularities in the handling
(nice) or the ride(rough).


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:41:40 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on cam gear

Ted Freeman writes: >>Did they stamp the gear backwards or am I backwards(which
is most likely the
case)? This is an FE motor.

It's been a long time since I've been in an FE. Why don't you compare it to the
one you are replacing or one you have lying around in your shop. I frankly
don't remember, but this should clear it up for you. I also believe if you put
it on reverse from what it should be that the chain won't line up between the
crank & cam gears properly.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:49:23 EDT
From: KAKneeland aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - manual gear box lubricant

Hello again everyone,

I went to check my steering box fluid on my 71 Bronco with manual steering
and found NO fluid in it!!! I checked the book and it said I should add 90W
gear oil, the local Ford dealer said the same. My concerns are, that I did
find a dark gray kind-of packing grease stuff in there. I didn't see any
metal shaving in it or anything, but I'm wondering what is really supposed to
go in there and what it should look like. My Chilton's said that I should
have the box filled with a good steering gear grease, but also said I should
see fluid at the top of the fill tower for the steering box. What's the deal
guys??? It all comes down to the old saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix
it." I don't want to hurt something that hasn't died of its own accord.

Thanks again,
Deputy
KAKneeland aol.com
'71 Bronco w/302
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:52:42 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HP clutch

> I was looking at upgrading my clutch too, and when I was looking I found
this
> web page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworld.com/KBARS/66-77bronco/performance.html.
I
> haven't upgraded yet, but the info gave me a start. Good luck.
>
> Deputy
.............

Thanks for the link, I found it to be quite useful. I'm leaning towards
the Centerforce Dual Friction clutch and pressure plate, and the roller type
pilot bearing looks interesting as well.

Has anyone ever had a problem with these items even under extreme use?


TIA
Danger


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:24:28 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

Are you subscribed to 2 different lists? Sometimes the same message will be
posted to the performance list as well as the 61-79 list for example...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bas van der Veer
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining


>
>Speaking of which.. do you guys also get all these duplicate messages? At
>least one in five messages I read I have read before. I am not talking
>about quotes, but really the same sender, same time/date. Very annoying :(



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:38:51 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 GVW Ratings (1964-72)

In a message dated 6/24/99 5:16:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wish iastate.edu
writes:

>
> This is what I have seen listed on the 73-79 sections too (the Red Book)
> . only recently did the F550's get up to the 12,000 GVW, but that's
> chassis cabs only I think ...
>
Actually I show all of the F-500 Models from 64/72 having a GVW ratings
ranging from 10,000 to 20,000 lbs. with model codes from F-500 through F-508.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:55:08 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - manual gear box lubricant

> I went to check my steering box fluid on my 71 Bronco with manual steering
> and found NO fluid in it!!! I checked the book and it said I should add 90W
> gear oil, the local Ford dealer said the same. My concerns are, that I did
> find a dark gray kind-of packing grease stuff in there. I didn't see any

AFAIK there should be gear oil in there. Was the grease on the parts or
at the bottom of the box? Oil with water is also kind of grey-ish, did
you touch the stuff to see what it is like? Grease and oil don't really
combine so if the grease covers all the parts that may just work good
enough; the steering components don't turn that fast so they should not
get as hot either. If you want to use oil then I suggest you clean the
parts first. This is all I can tell you from here, maybe someone else
knows the details.

> go in there and what it should look like. My Chilton's said that I should
> have the box filled with a good steering gear grease, but also said I should
> see fluid at the top of the fill tower for the steering box. What's the deal
> guys??? It all comes down to the old saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix

chilton says you should put both grease AND oil in it? That sounds kinda
weird to me :) then again the guy who wrote that probably drives a honda
or something.

Also I've never seen a tube labeled "steering gear grease".

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:58:37 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?

In a message dated 6/24/99 5:30:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
truck.carver mailcity.com writes:

> Is anybody out there still using 16 inch wheels?
> Are you using bias ply or radials? Did radials
> make any negative things happen to the truck?
> What about the positive?
>
Jeff:
I purchased new Ford 16" x7" (8-lug) radial rims for my 1967 F-250
4x4 in 1992 from the dealer. They were a special order item that somebody
changed their mind on. I run good year wrangler AT's Load range E which I
believe is a 10 ply equivalent. The handling of my truck was pretty good to
begin with, but I was concerned that a set of radials would exaggerate
problems. I did not find that to be the case at all. The AT tread design is
classified as a M&S but it is not very aggressive and loads up quick in the
mud. I wanted it for snow/ice and rain since I use it to plow my driveway
and for the most part just run the roads.

I realize that you need a 16" 5 lug pattern. I am not familiar with
a 16" rim on an F-100 series truck. However, a quick look in my MPC
indicates that several different vehicles came equipped that way. I can run
down specifics if you need any info. I also wonder if there is any NOS out
there. I would just say that based on my experience you should not be
disappointed with a radial. If your truck doesn't react well to a set of
radials it probably means that you have a suspension and/or steering issue to
deal with. Good luck.


Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 02:02:15 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Bas's offroad photos

> great, and I particularly like the high shot of all the trucks lined up on
> top of the ridge. It seems like everyone had a blast. Unfortunately, my

We sure did! That is a really nice area.

> browser choked on your page since it was long with lots of large images. It
> got caught in a continuous loop trying to load the last two images. Just
> thought I'd let you know. Otherwise, I really enjoyed seeing your truck in
> action.

Thanks. I think I like the one where I climb that log the most. That's
something I had never done before. The other guys got at hair-raising
angles and some backed out, but my width was a definite advantage here.

I don't know what the problem with those pictures is, my browser
has no problems with it, the whole page loads in 15-20 sec or so.. Anybody
else??
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:09:25 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Multiple posts/Whining

In a message dated 6/24/99 7:24:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bbeyer pacifier.com writes:

> Are you subscribed to 2 different lists? Sometimes the same message will be
> posted to the performance list as well as the 61-79 list for example...
>
I have witnessed this multiple post phenomenon a few times this week.
However, that problem differs from the other dimension the list seems to
have slipped into earlier today. Very disappointing and uncharacteristic.
Boy....yer gonna get it when the *list* mom gets home.


Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:13:27 -0400
From: David Wadson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Finally got those new kingpins...

Alright, I confess - I didn't have the guts to tackle the kingpins myself.
Instead I took it to the garage and got them to put them in. Along with a
replacement steering box, new steering linkage, and a wheel alignment. I
was so very tempted to attempt the install myself but subsequent problems
complicated matters.

I guess the extra strain on my steering from the seized kingpins went worse
then straining the power steering pump and ensuring that my tie rod did
need to be replaced. I noticed what I thought was oil on the drive way and
while peering under the truck to find the leak (turned out to be power
steering fluid) I noticed the new hole in my frame. All the extra pressure
on the steering box had snapped on of the bolts holding it on and the twist
on another had caused the frame to crack around the bolt hole.

Now faced with the prospect of removing king pins, having the new bushing
machined to fit new pins, installing the steering linkage, steering box,
AND getting a crack in the frame fixed, the professionals were my best
choice. 2-1/2 days and $700 bucks later it's all done.

My question for you guys who can remember what it was like to drive your
truck when it was brand new from the showroom (or if you've replaced all
your steering components) is...how sensitive is the steering in your truck?
Before I took my truck in the steering wheel would turn almost a couple
inches before the truck would turn. But now, I so much as nudge the
steering wheel and the truck is going. It was quite a surprise when I drove
pulled out the garage parking lot - I weaved back a forth a few times
before pulling over and checking that they had remembered to tighten the
lug nuts on my front end!

Just kind of curious as to how touchy that steering should be or if I
should go back and inquire about it...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:23:27 EDT
From: Lion5859 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Anyone using 16 inch wheels?

Hey Jeff,

I've got a 76 Ford Club Wagon with a 460ci and 16.5" rims all
the way around. I too am looking for regular 16" 8 lug rims, but just to let
you know that I'm in Ohio SE of Cleveland. I would be more than happy to
trade my 16.5's for a set of 5/ 16's if anyone is intrested. I've been having
a problem over here in getting tires for these. If anyone can help it would
be greatly appreciated. Don't know if this helped, but just a little helpful
info for you.

Maurice
76 E250 460ci
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:32:39 -0400
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

No...it's not normal. I'm not sure what's going on. You've come to the
right place for good accurate information. IMHO the best on the web and
off. It's like have hundreds of expert mechanics at you finger tips.

Hang around....things will cool off and get back to normal. The list Dad
here is best on the web and won't let it go on to far.

- -Ted
- -----Original Message-----
From: Southerland, Rich
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 6:24 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - whining


>I'm new here. Somebody please tell me this bickering (the kind I've seen
>today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't
>normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
>weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying...
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:34:34 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: [FTE 61-79 - Ignorant little children]

In a message dated 6/24/99 1:06:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pumpguns usa.net
writes:


in
the backside on the way out. >>

Allright, this is outta hand.

Darrell
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:41:46 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

In a message dated 6/24/99 2:16:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rsouther alldata.com writes:


today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't
normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying.. >>

Itsa not normal but it happens. Dont pay much mind to it, 99% of us are
pretty easy going. Just get the occasional outburt. Now this is not to be
confused with a good flame war, those are different, and by far more
entertaining. Think of a flame war as two best friends goin at eachother as
best they can, with smiles on both faces.

Darrell
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:49:19 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bas's offroad photos

HI Bas, I checked out your website and looked at
the latest photos or your trip to Sierra National Forest. The photos are
great, and I particularly like the high shot of all the trucks lined up on
top of the ridge. It seems like everyone had a blast. Unfortunately, my
browser choked on your page since it was long with lots of large images. It
got caught in a continuous loop trying to load the last two images. Just
thought I'd let you know. Otherwise, I really enjoyed seeing your truck in
action.

- -don

- --
Don in Philadelphia, Internet Director - Keystone Chapter FCA
66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon, 61 Falcon Futura, and classic scooters
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:45:38 -0400
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question

I haven't put them on yet. I looked at the old one, but it's been off for a
while and I can't remember how it went. The shop manual shows a flat
surface facing out. I'll mount it and see how it goes. I was also working
with the Crank gear. It's the one I'm confused on.

While I'm asking silly questions...Do all FE's have a cam spacer on them?
The manual show one, but when I took this motor apart, there wasn't one
there (believe it or not...I remember that). Looking at the cam gear on the
timing chain, it looks like the original and mounts flush on the end of the
cam. What do ya think?

Thanks,

- -Ted




>It's been a long time since I've been in an FE. Why don't you compare it
to the
>one you are replacing or one you have lying around in your shop. I frankly
>don't remember, but this should clear it up for you. I also believe if you
put
>it on reverse from what it should be that the chain won't line up between
the
>crank & cam gears properly.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:03:09 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Door to ground height on 73 F-250, 4 X 4

Hey Ox,

74 Highboy = 21"
76 Highboy = 23"

I'm pretty sure this is the same setup as a 73. Measurements are from the
bottom of the rocker panels. The 76 is probably most representative since the
tires are basically stock on stock rims. The 74 has some odd sized tires....

Hope this helps!

CJ
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:08:07 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question

In a message dated 6/24/99 8:51:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
oldparts ford-trucks.com writes:

> while and I can't remember how it went. The shop manual shows a flat
> surface facing out. I'll mount it and see how it goes. I was also working
> with the Crank gear. It's the one I'm confused on.
>

Both the cam and crank gears should be installed with the timing marks (Dot)
facing out. A stock replacement cam gear has no spacer. The back of the
gear rides against the cam thrust plate (the back of the cam gear will have
reliefs cut into this bearing surface for lubrication). Line the cam gear
up with the dowel in the cam. The crank gear lines up with a woodruff key.
You must slide the entire assembly on together (Cam gear, chain and crank
gear...otherwise you might stretch or kink the chain. Remember to put the
fuel pump eccentric on the cam before you tighten that bolt and the oil
slinger on the crank before you install the front cover. I also like to
rotate the crank several times to make sure I didn't mess up the timing
alignment (some things deserve to be double checked). Hope this helps.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:25:19 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

In a message dated 06/24/1999 9:16:30 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
rsouther alldata.com writes:


today I'm used to hearing coming from my kids when they need a nap) isn't
normal. I really like the good info I've got here over the past couple
weeks, but having to wade through this garbage is really trying... >>

I agree, but ya gotta take the good with the bad. We all have differences of
opinions so there's liable to be a lil bickering......

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:28:29 -0400
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question

Thanks for the speedy reply! I thought this was correct, but wanted to
double check with the list before I started working on it. They (Comp Cams)
had everything in the box nice and neat and had one gear turned one way and
the other gear the other way. I plan on degreeing the cam anyway and I
guess I would catch my mistake during that process. But I'm still wet
behind the ears when it comes to building motors, so I'm full of questions.
I like to know what I'm looking for before I get into it.

Thanks again!

- -Ted

- -----Original Message-----
From: TBeeee aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 10:21 PM

>Both the cam and crank gears should be installed with the timing marks
(Dot)
>facing out. A stock replacement cam gear has no spacer. The back of the
>gear rides against the cam thrust plate (the back of the cam gear will have
>reliefs cut into this bearing surface for lubrication). Line the cam
gear
>up with the dowel in the cam. The crank gear lines up with a woodruff key.
>You must slide the entire assembly on together (Cam gear, chain and crank
>gear...otherwise you might stretch or kink the chain. Remember to put the
>fuel pump eccentric on the cam before you tighten that bolt and the oil
>slinger on the crank before you install the front cover. I also like to
>rotate the crank several times to make sure I didn't mess up the timing
>alignment (some things deserve to be double checked). Hope this helps.
>
>Stock Man
>1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
>1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:36:06 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - whining

In a message dated 06/25/1999 12:45:43 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
JUMPINFORD AOL.com writes:


confused with a good flame war, those are different, and by far more
entertaining. Think of a flame war as two best friends goin at eachother as
best they can, with smiles on both faces. >>

I agree, there's a difference between saying somethin mean, disrespectful and
hurtful as opposed to someone saying something all in fun. I think it's all
cool and groovy as long as it's 1.) done in fun 2.) no one get's hurt 3.) IT
HAS TO DO WITH FORD TRUCKS!!!!! =)
*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly biys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:39:13 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Timing mark on crank gear/cam spacer question

In a message dated 6/24/99 9:33:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
oldparts ford-trucks.com writes:

> Thanks for the speedy reply! I thought this was correct, but wanted to
> double check with the list before I started working on it.
Your welcome. There is never any harm in checking out the depth of the water
before you dive in. I would recommend Steve Christ's book. I find it very
helpful for all stages of an FE rebuild.
Good luck with the motor.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (in need of factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:01:35 -0600
From: "David Wiese"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: fte-61-79-300six performance parts

can anybody give me any ideas on where to find perf parts for my 300six i
have it in a 79 full size bronco and i use it for only off roading and need
more horse power for the mud
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:03:21 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re: fte-61-79-300six performance parts

Talk to Tony Marino at

tony pscico.com

I just drove his 78 F-150 4x4 with a 300 inline and a 4 barrel. Almost
made me a believer in the 300's!
8^) hehehehe (Gotcha Tony!)....


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