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61-79-list-digest Thursday, June 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 218



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

RE: FTE 61-79 - Crew/King cab 4X4
FTE 61-79 - Eggs in the Radiator
FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?
FTE 61-79 - M.A.D. Enterprises Address
Re: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6
Re: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6
Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering for '67 F100
FTE 61-79 - Re:Dura-Spark Mallory
RE: FTE 61-79 - M.A.D. Enterprises Address
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: ignorant or stupid (little bit of both?)
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted
FTE 61-79 - small block parts for sale
Re: FTE 61-79 - Np203
FTE 61-79 - My new web site.
FTE 61-79 - RE: Engine Code 'S' - 66
FTE 61-79 - AOD Torque Converter., one peace input shaft

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:08:48 -0500
From: Jeff Lester
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Crew/King cab 4X4

Rich,

Crew Cab...??? Can we say four (4) doors??? =]

Take care,

Jeff Lester - La Porte, Texas
78 E350 4x4
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1978_e350_1.html

On Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:53 PM, Southerland, Rich [SMTP:rsouther alldata.com] wrote:
[snip]
> today, but I found a real nice looking '79 250 2WD Crew Cab with 98,000 on
> it (The truck is from Canada, if it's 98,000kms, that's only about 60K
> miles. They are asking $8495 Canadian (about $5,700 US). Looks nice.
> Here is the url:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C15+A101+R500478513+Q352147575
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:33:40 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in the Radiator

Bill Beyer said:

> No offense intended to anyone on the list but I'll go with the egg dip
> before I'll jump on the stuffing raw eggs into the radiator theory of
> stop-leak...I can just see some old Ford pickup running around puking
> chickens out the tailpipe...

I once heard this discussed on "Click and Clack" on NPR. I seem to only
listen to NPR on long car trips, but anyway, one caller asked about
radiator fixes. He said his father told him to crack and egg into the
radiator. He did, and it stopped the leak -- for a few hundred miles. I
forget what kind of car it was, but they said they didn't want to spend
money to fix it, so they just feed it a steady diet of eggs! I wouldn't
want to see (or smell) the muck that comes out during a coolant change.
*Augh* Click and Clack (whatever their names are) made jokes about
sticking a few pieces of bacon on the radiator so that he could have
breakfast ready by the time he got to work. :) They agreed that they had
heard of this shady fix before. Heck, I can't keep my high-tech radiator
epoxy from blowing out, I don't know how eggs would last in there. :)

- -don

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Don in Philadelphia, Internet Director - Keystone Chapter FCA
66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon, 61 Falcon Futura, and classic scooters
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:59:45 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?

> Ford Man said:
>> I thought we were talking about pickups, not Falcons. Needs to be on
>> another list.

William S Hart said:
> Bobby! Glad you're back ... we really missed you around here ....

Good call, Wish! Looks like Robert Brown is back again. His posts are
unmistakable. Unfortunately, this time he's just plain wrong, too. As
others have mentioned, the Club Wagon is a van -- the passenger version of
the Econoline, and still around today. I guess Robert's not the "Ford Man"
he'd like to be. ;)

Calling the Club Wagon a "Falcon" was part of Ford's marketing scheme in
the 60s. The Falcons were marketed as friendly economy vehicles, and the
top trim level Club Wagons received "Falcon" badges instead of "Econoline".
I just found out recently that there were actually some Econoline pickups
that left the factory labeled as Falcons, but they are not common.

As for the side trim, it might very well be stainless steel. You're
probably right that a good trim shop will be able to take the dents out and
make them look like new. I'm sure it's not cheap! I also know there is a
book devoted just to trim restoration, but I once tried to straighten out a
taillight bezel, and even though I've relatively crafty, it didn't look
much better when I was done! :) I guess that's why the pros get the big
bucks.

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:09:29 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - M.A.D. Enterprises Address

Steve,
Do you have a phone number or address for MAD enterprises? Which module
is the most reliable to use on a Duraspark?
Brett
'75 F100 Supercab 390 Duraspark (cough-cough) with two ignition modules
along at all times.

>I just bought a Duraspark distributor, and ordered a wiring kit from
M.A.D.
>Enterprises. It is supposed to use a GM HEI module, and be simple to
>install. I will let you know as soon as I install it.

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:31:57 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6

Here it is folks.

Gear Vendors
Dept. MF
1717 N. Magnolia Ave.
El Cajon, CA 92020
(800) 999-9555
(619) 562-0060

"Southerland, Rich" wrote:

> Yes, I'm interested!
> I can get the vendors name phone and address to all those interested in it.

William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:32:41 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6

A bit pricy I would say,,, think they start at more than $2000...

Bill

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> From: William A Whited
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6
> Date: 24. juni 1999 05:31
>
> Here it is folks.
>
> Gear Vendors
> Dept. MF
> 1717 N. Magnolia Ave.
> El Cajon, CA 92020
> (800) 999-9555
> (619) 562-0060
>
> "Southerland, Rich" wrote:
>
> > Yes, I'm interested!
> > I can get the vendors name phone and address to all those interested in
it.
>
> William A Whited
> 74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
> 77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
> 79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
> "IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:26:25 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering for '67 F100

John L. McKay asked...

> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get power steering on my "67
> F100 360 ?
.............

I believe the items needed to convert to power steering are...

1) power steering gearbox
2) power steering pump
3) hoses that connect pump to gearbox
4) mounting brackets for pump
5) crankshaft pulley which lines up with ps pump pulley
6) power steering column shaft (approx 1/4" difference in length compared to
manual shaft)


Danger


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Dura-Spark Mallory

I use a Mallory Unilite conversion and Mallory coil in
my stock dist.('71 351C-4V). It works fine, never had
any problem with it. I might have gone to Dura-spark
but to my knowledge they are not available for early
Clevelands. I think the advantage of the Dura-spark is
the larger terminal spacing on the cap, this allows
for higher voltages. If someone handed me a free
dura-spark dist. for my engine today, I would put it
in my parts bin as a backup, because "if its not broke
don't fix it."

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:02 -0700
From: "Steve Schwartz"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - M.A.D. Enterprises Address

Brett:

M.A.D. Enterprises (559-539-7128)

Having just jumped into this, I have little to add. Mark Hamilton likes his
solution (the GM HEI module). I'll let you know.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Brett L. Habben
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:09 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - M.A.D. Enterprises Address
>
>
> Steve,
> Do you have a phone number or address for MAD enterprises? Which module
> is the most reliable to use on a Duraspark?
> Brett
> '75 F100 Supercab 390 Duraspark (cough-cough) with two ignition modules
> along at all times.
>
> >I just bought a Duraspark distributor, and ordered a wiring kit from
> M.A.D.
> >Enterprises. It is supposed to use a GM HEI module, and be simple to
> >install. I will let you know as soon as I install it.
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:10:31 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

i have been dealing with mustangs for 17 years and have never heard of a 66 s
code.
can't imagine why they ask?

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:15:18 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

big blocks were not offered in a 66 mustang, unless ah the "S" is for super
gas. maybe they have parts listed for the old mustang drag cars. yeah right.

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:17:35 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted

the mid seventies ford truck with the extended cab were known as "king cab"
and it says so on the back window. thank you very little.

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:24:31 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: ignorant or stupid (little bit of both?)

In a message dated 06/22/1999 7:53:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
deconstructing hotmail.com writes:


miles] ...with the choke half out....240's are not the most powerful engines
around but..wow ..today i thought I was driving into a gale force
wind..haha..

>>>>
>>>>just like the other night, my
instrument light wasn't working, drove all the way home with no light before
i remembered to check the dimmer!!! please feel free to throw whatever
rotten fruit you may have at me>

Well I guess I'll look stupid too! LOL Just last week I must have had a major
brain fart day Ha!Ha! Anyways, I was
puttin gas in my truck when the pump cut out. Stupid me thinks it was just
something I did so I keep pumping till I notice gas pourin out on my shoes! I
TOTALLY forgot I already had about 3 gallons in my tank so I was wondering
why it stopped at only 17 gallons! Then to top it off, after driving for a
lil bit I noticed a funny smell coming from my truck. Come to find out I had
driven with the E-brake on for about 7 miles! EEK! As Bill Engvall would say
"Lisa, where's your sign?" LOL OK now that everyone knows what a dork I am,
lets just keep it between us OK? *wink*

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:34:03 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted

Easy JJ, I've just never heard of them referred to as King Cabs, always as
SuperCabs...so the Japanese copied another one eh? What a shock!

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted


>the mid seventies ford truck with the extended cab were known as "king cab"
>and it says so on the back window. thank you very little.



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:45:20 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - small block parts for sale

i need to clear out the following parts.
351 windsor engine parts, block, fresh turned crank, heads (DOOE) ported,
new ford motorsports camshaft, new ford motorsports billet harmonic balancer,
new .030 pistons, rings, cam brgs, main brgs, rod brgs, main stud kit, new
valve springs,retainers and locks, arp rod bolts, crane roller rockers(used),
new torker 2 intake, can't remember what else, over 1300.00 invested, will
take 900.00 for it all.
i can make a complete list if anyone is interested.

351 cleveland parts: 4 bolt main block (.030 over), 4v quench chamber heads,
crankshaft, stock cast iron intakes, edelbrock aluminum 4v intake for use
with 2 barrel heads. also a complete 71 model 4v engine, disassembled, and a
pretty fresh shortblock assembly very low miles some performance parts.

email direct if you know of anyone interested. jjjjjgrant aol.com


thanks, jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:07:11 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Np203

then what in the world is the chain driven t-case that has 2hi, 2lo, 4hi
and 4lo??

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 12:32 PM 6/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Cannondale writes: >>no, as i remember, the Np203 is a chain driven
PART-time
>t-case, it has
>2hi, 2lo, 4hi, 4lo.
>
>No !! No !! No !!... Np203 is full time 4wd and does not have 2wd on
>shifter. It is always in 4wd.
>Either 4wd Lo or 4wd Hi.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:34:15 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - My new web site.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/ianboss69/page/home.htm

Got it 90% up and running. Still some missing links and stuff but check it
out, tell me what you think. I also included links to some of the list
members who advertise their websites on the posts, if you see your site on
mine and don't want it there, please let me know, and it'll be off of there
as soon as possible. On the other hand if you DON'T see your site there, but
would like me to put a link on it, send me your site address. If any of the
links that are highlighted and should be working arent let me know, but there
are some links that i havent activated yet and they arent highlighted.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M

True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:49:39 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Engine Code 'S' - 66

All right, you guys made me go pick the immortal classic Fearsome Fords, by
Phil Hall (Classic Motorbooks), from the bookshelf. I looked in spec
section for all Fords of the 66 variety, and the winner is : 66 Fairlane
390, 335 hp 4800 rpm, 427 ft-lbs 3200 rpm. 10.5:1 CR. 4 bbl. It was
the only engine you cound get the Sport Shift Cruise-O-Matic with.

They guy is right about the Mustang, also, 390's were not installed until
1967, in fact no engine bigger than a 289 was.

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
IsuzuG prodigy.net

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:49:07 EDT
From: M351STANG aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - AOD Torque Converter., one peace input shaft

Hi all.
I found that my pickup was going to need a, one peace input shaft,
and converter. So I called Art Carr trans. in Reno, Nevada, 1-888-526-5868....

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