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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - timing
FTE 61-79 - Over 10,000 gross
FTE 61-79 - OD
FTE 61-79 - CVT's
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dura-Spark-Mallory
Re: FTE 61-79 - 64 Wheel Q's, Springs & Brakes update
Re: FTE 61-79 - full time or part time
Re: FTE 61-79 - manual vs. auto tranny
FTE 61-79 - cab bushings
FTE 61-79 - Dura-Spark-Mallory
FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
FTE 61-79 - '78 Bronco Tailgate
FTE 61-79 - last post(apology)
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - 64 Wheel Q's, Springs & Brakes update]
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted
FTE 61-79 - Swapman.com auction
RE: FTE 61-79 - timing
FTE 61-79 - Hi-performance clutches
FTE 61-79 - Growling while in 4WD
FTE 61-79 - Id'ing a C6
FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator
FTE 61-79 - GVW
FTE 61-79 - Re: Eggs in the Radiator
Re: FTE 61-79 - Id'ing a C6
FTE 61-79 - Growling 4X4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Eggs in the Radiator
FTE 61-79 - Np203
FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6
Re: FTE 61-79 - GVW
Re: FTE 61-79 - Np203
RE: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6
FTE 61-79 - Tint laws
FTE 61-79 - steel wheels and vintage tires
FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?
FTE 61-79 - OD
Re: FTE 61-79 - Np203
Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator
Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]
Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator
Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]
FTE 61-79 - Crew/King cab 4X4
Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]
Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator
Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]
FTE 61-79 - Manual Steering gearbox and fuel guage
RE: FTE 61-79 - Crew/King cab 4X4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Manual Steering gearbox and fuel guage
FTE 61-79 - 360 motor conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 motor conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 or 390 or???
FTE 61-79 - Motorsport camshaft
Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering for '67 F100
Re: FTE 61-79 - Motorsport camshaft
Re: FTE 61-79 - Somebody must know???
Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 or 390 or???
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Somebody must know???
Re: FTE 61-79 - OD

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:20:49 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - timing

>
> The dafodile had some sort of belt on a pulley that changed size. I have
> only seen a very short video of it, I'd be very interested to know how
> exactly it works. They didn't shift, instead the gear ratio changed
> linearly keeping the engine at peak rpm. They only shifted to get forward
> and reverse - meaning they could go as fast backwards as forward. They used
> them for backing up races at the beach in zandvoort :)


They used a centrifugal drive, similar to what's seen in go-carts,
snowmobiles and Polaris ATV's. It would be a very efficient drive
system, as the gear reduction is infinite, and the rpm level remains
almost constant.

FTE content, was '75-'76 the only years the Duraspark was available in
the FE? I'm replacing another set of 18 month old points. Is there a
"good" mix of Duraspark parts that will be possible to get at the parts
store, without looking all over?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:16:20 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Over 10,000 gross

>Plus this weight class causes more wear on the street itself. Some
>cities will not let this large of a truck off of the truck routes >unless it is making a delivery or running a route. It may also require >additional registration fees if you take it into another state.

You may also have to stop at the scales and also paint GVW on door.But
realisticly who would be the wiser IF under 10K and over 10k license
plates looked the same?
Maybe put a camper on it and call it a motorhome?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:19:00 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OD

Bas writes: >>My uncle had an electric overdrive on his car. He could just
toggle the
switch at any particular moment. It just had a safety switch so you could
only engage it while in 4th gear. I suppose it wouldn't stand the torque in
the first gears while shifting. In 4th you could flip it with the pedal to
the floor though.

I've only seen these on European vehicles. Never on an American vehicle.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:24:59 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - CVT's

William Hart writes: >>A CVT or Constantly Variable Transmission (as it was
described to me), they
are used on snow mobiles quite often... (and Formula 440 in SCCA racing :)


And soon to be in vehicles on our beloved highways. All major automobile mfg's
are currently working on these for applications in cars/trucks.

Honda has it already, and I know we are working on it at Chrysler, and I read an
article recently that Ford and GM had versions of it in prototype also.

I own a Combine (IH715) and it has what amounts to a variable drive as well as a
3 speed transmission in series with it. Had a 615 previously and it had the
same drive arrangement.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:10:16 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dura-Spark-Mallory

>>
>I may be restating something, but this fact doesn't apply to 460s. My truck
>has it, as do all 74 trucks with the 460s (all though there arent many).
>
Thanks Darrell, we were talkin FE's here, that's why 76 was the upper limit
:) But that explains why one mechanic didn't believe me when I said I had
a 74 with points, he'd probably never seen one ... though with the number
of FE's around that surprises me ...

Thanks for the info :)


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:26:57 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 64 Wheel Q's, Springs & Brakes update

>I'd like to go to radials, so can these rims accept
>radial tires. I heard that narrow rims of the era
>are too narrow for radials, are these rims too narrow?
>Can tires be found for this size?
>
Most likely they can. There was a thread on this just yesterday briefly.
Basically it said to go to the tire shop and size the tires by setting them
next to each other. There are places like Coker tire (on the web
somewhere, I just don't remember where, else check Hemmings) that can at
least tell you exactly what size you need, they sell tires expressly for
classics. www.wrljet.com also has some tire sizing charts, last time I
checked though they weren't quite large enough for some trucks, not dealing
at all with the 16" rims ...

>'64 F100 CrewCab soon to be riding the road, safely.
>
Didn't they pass laws prohibiting that ? :)

Glad to hear you made it through everything okay and are back with us.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:30:50 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - full time or part time

At 11:31 PM 6/22/99 , you wrote:
>no, as i remember, the Np203 is a chain driven PART-time t-case, it has
>2hi, 2lo, 4hi, 4lo. The t-case you are talking about is the Dana 30 or
>something to that effect. The 205 has 4hi, 4lo and 2 hi..
>
Its part time with a kit in it, but when I got my truck it was a full time
unit, and an NP203 ... at least that's what I've been told and this is the
first I've seen refuting that ... the knob is actually labelled Hi, Lock,
N, Lock, Lo the last two may be switched ... I don't have the truck
right now to run out and verify this stuff unfortunately, maybe someone
else can help us out here ?


Just my 2cents

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:33:03 +0800
From: "David and Cherie"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - manual vs. auto tranny

Yes 320 000 kms equals about 198 848 miles.
Dave.
Australia.


>Dave,
>Can you elaborate on that "320 000 kms" a little? I'm not up on that
>metric stuff yet.

>Rob in Ohio, USA


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:44:08 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - cab bushings

Hey Cannondale,

I have set of NEW Ford rubber cab bushings that I ended up not using on this
78. They are the top half of the rubber bushings under the four points of the
cab. I will sell them to you what I paid if you are interested.....

By the way, these bushings can be a little difficult to replace if you are
not removing the cab. There are two metal pieces, the upper one is squeezed
into a tapered fit onto the lower one....sometimes these are rough to take
apart. What you might end up doing is backing out the bolt, and then pounding
on the bolt head with a hammer to push the bottom piece out....you'll see
what I mean when you get into it...you might need a pretty big hammer.....

I'm sure there is a more elegant way.....

Talk to you soon,

CJ (Colorado Jeff)







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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:44:14 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dura-Spark-Mallory

Figured I would chip in a little here.....

I also switched over to electronic, in fact I replaced the entire distributor
with a Mallory. The reason for this was that the three "lifetime"
distributors I bought, all would wear out their Mickey little bushings after
10,000 miles.....

So, I started with the little Uni Lite kit that goes in the distributor and
it worked well. After seeing the improvement, and noting that the distributor
shaft was still rattling around a little, I went with an entirely new
distributor.....this made it run even smoother.

Now, however, I HAVE had one of the Uni Lite units go out, so I ALWAYS carry
a spare....kind of like the requirement of carrying an extra fuel pump if you
own an FE.....

CJ





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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:59:49 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

I friend of mine has a 66 289 mustang, he is most always asked if it is an
"s' code mustang when ordering parts. My knowledge is that S-codes were
390's but these weren't available in mustangs until 67, so i have no idea
what a 66 "s-code" mustang is, can anybody help me. I apologize to the list,
i know this is not ford truck content, but i thought you guys may be able to
help since it is ford related.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M

True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:59:14 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '78 Bronco Tailgate

My buddy has a '78 Bronco and is having trouble with his tailgate. The
problem is that the glass won't stay on the track in order for it to
properly move up/down. The only thing I can figure is that he bought the
tailgate from JC Crapney (no offense to any JCW believers...) and that
the "insides" of the tailgate don't match up to the original. Has anyone
else had this problem?
Thanks!
- --
Rob
'78 F 250 - 400M -
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:02:34 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - last post(apology)

I have to apologize again because i didnt include a subject title in my last
post, and i know ken has requested we all do so. I sent it before i realized
it. sorry

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M

True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:12:42 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

>I friend of mine has a 66 289 mustang, he is most always asked if it is an
>"s' code mustang when ordering parts. My knowledge is that S-codes were
>390's but these weren't available in mustangs until 67, so i have no idea
>what a 66 "s-code" mustang is, can anybody help me. I apologize to the list,
> i know this is not ford truck content, but i thought you guys may be able to
>help since it is ford related.
>
I can honestly say I've never heard of an S code 66 unless its a 6 cyl.
The most powerful option that year was the K code 289 Hi-Po with something
like 271 hp. Then of course there were A C and D codes if memory serves,
but that was it ...

Remember the parts monkeys are sometimes only as smart as the books in
front of them, and if the book is wrong by a year or so, then you are
stuck. I know I asked some dumb bow tie questions when I was workin behind
the counter, simply because I couldn't compensate for all the errors in the
book. An example would be the Gates belt book, if you have an 87-89 5.0,
don't get a belt for that, get the belt for the 91-3 years, they have the
wrong listing and your tensioner won't work right. If you have the guy
look through the years 87-93 5.0's you will find they list 2 different
belts, one early, one later. I haven't found anywhere that says Ford
changed the belts those years, and when trying the one they listed for my
friend's 87, we found it was about an inch and a half too long.

Anyway hope this helps explain why he's always asked that, they probably
all have the same books. I'll double check the codes tonight when I get
home (red book), or you may be able to find something on the net, just make
up a 66 vin with the S as the fifth digit and see what it does :)


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:22:43 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

> I can honestly say I've never heard of an S code 66 unless its a 6 cyl.
> The most powerful option that year was the K code 289 Hi-Po with something
> like 271 hp.

A 1966 S-code "Stang was equipped with a 4bbl 390 GT. DOn't forget about
those big blocks!
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:30:22 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

At 09:22 AM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
>> I can honestly say I've never heard of an S code 66 unless its a 6 cyl.
>> The most powerful option that year was the K code 289 Hi-Po with something
>> like 271 hp.
>
>A 1966 S-code "Stang was equipped with a 4bbl 390 GT. DOn't forget about
>those big blocks!

I would never forget an FE, but read the year and model, an FE won't fit in
a 66 Mustang, the engine bay's not big enough ... well not from the factory
anyway :)

hey it just dawned on me, they probably list Mustang and Fairlane together
for some books, the Fairlane would have been available with the S code 390
GT in 66 because it was large enough ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: 23 Jun 99 09:39:08 CDT
From: Ford Man
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - 64 Wheel Q's, Springs & Brakes update]

I'm back, slick.
William S Hart wrote:
>I'd like to go to radials, so can these rims accept
>radial tires. I heard that narrow rims of the era
>are too narrow for radials, are these rims too narrow?
>Can tires be found for this size?
>
Most likely they can. There was a thread on this just yesterday briefly.=

Basically it said to go to the tire shop and size the tires by setting th=
em
next to each other. There are places like Coker tire (on the web
somewhere, I just don't remember where, else check Hemmings) that can at
least tell you exactly what size you need, they sell tires expressly for
classics. www.wrljet.com also has some tire sizing charts, last time I
checked though they weren't quite large enough for some trucks, not deali=
ng
at all with the 16" rims ...

>'64 F100 CrewCab soon to be riding the road, safely.
>
Didn't they pass laws prohibiting that ? :)

Glad to hear you made it through everything okay and are back with us.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:00:35 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted

King cab??? Yipes, please don't tell me Ford is designating their trucks the
same as N*ss*n! Oh wait...did Ford buy 'em or have I slipped into an
alternate dimension...Toto I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:22 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76-79 King cab or crew cab wanted


>i sold my 96 f250 power stroke diesel 4x4, now once again i am looking for
a
>76-79 crew cab or king cab 4x4, i want a pretty nice one for daily
>transportation, f250 or 350 would be a nice plus, if any body has seen one
>for sale anywhere, email me the number at: jjjjjgrant aol.com



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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:34:47 -0400
From: "Ronald D. Miller"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Swapman.com auction

Check out a new online auction for car and truck parts. www.swapman.com
Thsy have just launched with Ford products. Might be a good source to clear
out extra parts.

Ron Miller
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:42:22 -0700
From: "Steve Schwartz"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - timing

I just bought a Duraspark distributor, and ordered a wiring kit from M.A.D.
Enterprises. It is supposed to use a GM HEI module, and be simple to
install. I will let you know as soon as I install it.

The dist. was $48, and the wiring kit was $40. I was advised to replace the
aftermarket stator in the dist. with a genuine Ford part, but I haven't
priced one yet. Likewise, I was told to use a genuine GM HEI module. No
price yet.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of William L.
> Ballinger
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 1:21 AM
> To: Ford Truck Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - timing
>
>
> FTE content, was '75-'76 the only years the Duraspark was available in
> the FE? I'm replacing another set of 18 month old points. Is there a
> "good" mix of Duraspark parts that will be possible to get at the parts
> store, without looking all over?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:37:27 -0700
From: Brett Withers
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hi-performance clutches

Thanks for any info about high performance clutch, pressure plate, and
throwout bearings.


Danger

Mr. Danger, my 65 f100 used to eat aftermarket clutches. 10000-15000
miles. Got sick of taken the tranny out in the driveway. I finally broke
down and bought a FORD HD clutch and p-plate. Had it in ever since. To
make it harder on the old clutch the rear main seal has been leaking for
about two years and not a slip yet. Those blue oval engineers know what
works best in their toys. food for thought.

RBW
65 F100 352 police interceptor
74 bronco
78 bronco
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:47:19 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Growling while in 4WD

>>It will not make the noise on a lift (wheel
of the ground) tried it. Tried running with just hubs locked and just the
transfer case in low and 4 high.

Brett,

Is there anyway you could try different tires? I have seen many a tire wear
funny and start causing noises. If you can't try different tires, try
swapping the fronts to the rear etc. Just a thought. It sounds like you have
been through all the mechanicals.

- -- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:52:37 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Id'ing a C6

Rob Long writes>> Correct me if I'm wrong... but an quick, easy way to ID a C6
Tranny is
by the shape of the pan? C6 will have a notch in one corner:
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| |
| |
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And the C4 tranny is square? ? ?

Yep! ! ! ! Dead on.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:57:36 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator

Danger writes: >> I might go along with the gum, and I always have bailing (aka
mechanics)
wire around, but eggs for the radiator?... What's up with that?

Old fashioned way to stop small leaks.... Eggs cook in hot water and as they
are forced into small hole stop it up. Was much better before the pressurized
systems got above 10lb pressure.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:01:30 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - GVW

John LaG writes: >>Either that or put it in Azie's name and call it a farm
truck.

Yo Ox...!!! If you do that I just might drive by one day and decide to bring it
"home" to Alabama.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:05:01 -0700
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Eggs in the Radiator

Danger wrote:
> but eggs for the radiator?... What's up with that?

I suspect someone remembered only part of the story.

Years ago, before the earth cooled and before we had FE's, there was no
such thing as ethelene glycol anti-freeze. We used alcohol and water
in our cooling system to prevent freezing in the winter. Needless to
say, the heat of the engine tended to boil off the alcohol, degrading
the effectiveness and raising the freezing point.

This being said, at the same time there was some stuff you could get at
the drugstore called sodium silicate. The most common use for it was
for farmers to dip their chicken's eggs in it. It sealed them against
air, and acted as a preservative. Thus it was commonly known as "egg
dip". It mixed easily with water and alcohol, and would seal up small
leaks in an engine's cooling system (including, sometimes, head gasket leaks).
Sort of, what Prestone's magic stuff is supposed to do today.

Anyway, sodium silicate was NOT compatable with ethelene glycol! When
mixed, you got little "glass" beads all through the cooling system.
This was a mistake you made only once. And so sodium silicate fell out
of favor with those with cooling system leaks.

Then the 332's came out, the dinosaurs died and turned to oil, and we
started improving on Henry's ideas of how to make horsepower.

And as Paul Harvey would say: "And that's the rest............"

- -Marv-

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:03:25 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Id'ing a C6

I also found out that the C6 has 17 bolts and the C4 has I think 11 or
13 bolts(not sure).

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:16:53 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Growling 4X4

Brett Withers writes: >> It only makes the noise when in 4wd on
decelerating. Anybody ever had this problem. I don't want to pull the
front axles and replace the front axle u-joints just for fun if you know
what I mean.

Remove the rear drive shaft - put vehicle in 4wd - go for a drive. If it still
does it, that kinda isolates it to the front. If it doesn't growl with the rear
driveshaft out reinstall rear drive shaft, and remove front driveshaft and
repeat test.

Just to help isolate problem before you go tearing into something else that it
isn't.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:25:38 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Eggs in the Radiator

No offense intended to anyone on the list but I'll go with the egg dip
before I'll jump on the stuffing raw eggs into the radiator theory of
stop-leak...I can just see some old Ford pickup running around puking
chickens out the tailpipe...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Marv Miller
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:05 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Eggs in the Radiator



>This being said, at the same time there was some stuff you could get at
>the drugstore called sodium silicate. The most common use for it was
>for farmers to dip their chicken's eggs in it. It sealed them against
>air, and acted as a preservative. Thus it was commonly known as "egg
>dip". It mixed easily with water and alcohol, and would seal up small
>leaks in an engine's cooling system (including, sometimes, head gasket
leaks).
>Sort of, what Prestone's magic stuff is supposed to do today.



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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:27:30 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Np203

Cannondale writes: >>no, as i remember, the Np203 is a chain driven PART-time
t-case, it has
2hi, 2lo, 4hi, 4lo.

No !! No !! No !!... Np203 is full time 4wd and does not have 2wd on
shifter. It is always in 4wd.
Either 4wd Lo or 4wd Hi.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:34:04 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6

To all that asked about OD's for C4 and 6's, there is
an outstanding article in the July 99 issue of Mustangs
and Fords. It is a mount behind your tranny, you will
have to get a shorter drive shaft. The article shows
the install comes with all that is needed, didn't
mention a price though. It said that you can engage it
between the shifts, giving you a 6 speed. I can get
the vendors name phone and address to all those
interested in it.

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William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:32:07 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GVW

am14 daimlerchrysler.com wrote:
>
> John LaG writes: >>Either that or put it in Azie's name and call it a farm
> truck.
>
> Yo Ox...!!! If you do that I just might drive by one day and decide to bring it
> "home" to Alabama.
>

Is it OK if I stay in it. I gotta get outa Jersey. I don't eat much :-)

OX
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:37:33 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Np203

am14 daimlerchrysler.com wrote:
>
> Cannondale writes: >>no, as i remember, the Np203 is a chain driven PART-time
> t-case, it has
> 2hi, 2lo, 4hi, 4lo.
>
> No !! No !! No !!... Np203 is full time 4wd and does not have 2wd on
> shifter. It is always in 4wd.
> Either 4wd Lo or 4wd Hi.
>

Actually, it has 4HI, 4HI-lock, 4LOW, 4LOW-lock. Can't remember if it
had a nuetral or not.

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:36:31 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6

Yes, I'm interested!

(Look Ma! I snipped it!)
Rich


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From: William A Whited [mailto:f10074 ford-trucks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:34 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OD for C 4 C 6

I can get the vendors name phone and address to all those interested in it.

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:47:09 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tint laws

For the military guys some military bases also have
laws that are stricter then the state where they are
located. Justa thought.

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74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:09:07 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - steel wheels and vintage tires

Jeff Carver said:

> I prefer my wheels stock looking, besides I have all
> four original hubcaps.

> What other wheels look similar to the originals?
> What years would the orignal hubcap fit?
> What years are close in style.

> I'd like a set of 4 original rim bias ply fitted
> rims just for yucks, and to be available if I
> ever decide to show this beast. I put a bug in
> my SO's ear about attending the Supernationals one
> of these years, we'll see . . .


You can buy brand new steel wheels, in almost any size you would need, for
about the same price as you would pay for a set of original wheels from the
junkyard. At least here, that is. A junkyard rim is $25, but that's the
price of a new steel rim. Look in magzaines like Hot Rod and classic car
magazines. There are a lot of shops and suppliers and from what I've heard,
you just call them up and tell them size, backspacing, and bolt pattern --
and they've got them.

The best place for vintage tires is Coker Tire. They have a trailer at the
big shows out here on the east coast, and they have a great selection --
from reproduction bias ply tires to 70s muscle car correct tires. I have an
old catalog, but I think they would have a website by now. The phone number
is: 1-800-251-6336. I run bias ply tires on my Falcon Futura and they are
getting quite old, so when I have money to spend, I'm going to buy a set of
U.S.Royal whitewalls. They are the correct tire that rolled out of the
factory, AFAIK.

Also, you could go with something like the BFG Silvertowns, which are
modern radials with WIDE whitewalls. These are a nice compromise because
you get a quality radial with a durable whitewall. I'd stay away from
bargain wide whitewalls because most of them are laminated, and they look
like hell in no time at all.

I am also a fan of the steel wheel and original hubcap look. You have a lot
of options and will still spend less money than you would on a set of
high-zoot wheels that don't match the classic character of your truck.

Hope this helps,
don

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:21:01 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?

My '66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon has narrow side trim running the length of
the vehicle. It comes to a point in the front on the door,about 2" wide,
and I think is aluminum.

Is this the same trim that was used on the F-series trucks? If so, what
years, and does anyone make reproductions? The trim on my van is dented and
I would like to consider my options when I restore the exterior of my van
next year. I know that there are shops that specialize in trim restoration,
and they would probably do a bangup job, but I haven't priced that yet.

I good friend of mine said, "just stick some refridgerator molding on
there." I found it funny, but not funny enough to follow through on! :)

- -don

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:47:17 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OD

Jeff Harsha writes: >>My current understanding is that you can mechanically
engage it while moving,
but not disengage.

When you mechanically push the cable in, you are not engaging or disengaging
anything. You are merely setting it so the electricals will actuate the OD if
you allow the engine rpms to get low enough and the governor is at speed enough
to furnish ground.

If you pull the lever out while the OD is engaged you will Mechanically
disengage the gears, which will reak havoc to some cogs in the unit. Not
desireable to say the least.

The lever on the side of the transmission that the cable is hooked to has
resistance in one direction, but not the other. Disconnect the cable and work
the lever back and forth with your hand a few times to get the meaning. (with
vehicle parked and chocked of course and in neutral). If the lever is forward,
the OD is LOCKED out - can't engage - so in reality you have a 3 speed
transmission this way. With the lever held in the rearward position, the
electricals will cause the OD to engage if all other things are in order. There
is a "sprague" or "one way" clucth in these things that are a bugger to get back
in, once taken apart. It plays an important roll in the engagement &
disengagement of the Electric OD.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:47:09 -0500
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Np203

Yes, it does have neutral. Neutral is along the left side. If you convert
the 203 to part time you get 2high, 4high, neutral, 2low, 4low. Here is an
ascii drawing of where the locations are if you have converted it to part
time. If it is still fulltime 4low = 4low lock, 2low = 4low, and same for
the high range.

| 4low
__| 2low
neutral |
| | 4high
|__| 2high

Brett
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>> No !! No !! No !!... Np203 is full time 4wd and does not have 2wd on
>> shifter. It is always in 4wd.
>> Either 4wd Lo or 4wd Hi.

> Actually, it has 4HI, 4HI-lock, 4LOW, 4LOW-lock. Can't remember if it
>had a nuetral or not.
>
> OX


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:16:57 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?

At 11:21 AM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
>My '66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon has narrow side trim running the length of
>the vehicle. It comes to a point in the front on the door,about 2" wide,
>and I think is aluminum.
>
I would bet its actually stainless steel ... that's what our 57 Olds has on
the side of it, a good polish and you can't tell it from the chrome :)


>Is this the same trim that was used on the F-series trucks? If so, what
>years, and does anyone make reproductions? The trim on my van is dented and
>I would like to consider my options when I restore the exterior of my van
>next year. I know that there are shops that specialize in trim restoration,
>and they would probably do a bangup job, but I haven't priced that yet.
>

It may be pricey, but chrome shops and places like that can straighten and
polish the stuff til it looks almost new. If its fairly simple (not lots
of stripes or dimples that are supposed to be there) it shouldn't be too
much I wouldn't think ... and the buffing belts they have make quick work
of polishing the stuff ...


>I good friend of mine said, "just stick some refridgerator molding on
>there." I found it funny, but not funny enough to follow through on! :)
>

would you have to paint it appliance white then ?


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:54:32 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

In a message dated 6/23/99 10:31:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kendrick mddc.com writes:


those big blocks! >>
the 390 4bbl gt wasnt offered in mustangs untill 67, that where im confused,
it was the first big block ever installed in a mustang at the factory.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:55:30 -0700
From: "Terry Pendergrass"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator


- --

On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:57:36 am14 wrote:

>Old fashioned way to stop small leaks.... Eggs cook in hot water and as they
>are forced into small hole stop it up. Was much better before the pressurized
>systems got above 10lb pressure.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
So If you're looking at buying a Ford Truck and it "smells" or "tastes" like chicken, then you check to see if 'WiSH' was a previous owner? ;-) Honestly, I have never heard of that one, pepper works sometimes too.

Terry
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Date: 23 Jun 99 13:59:25 CDT
From: Ford Man
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]

I thought we were talking about pickups, not Falcons. Needs to be on anot=
her
list.

William S Hart wrote:
At 11:21 AM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
>My '66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon has narrow side trim running the length =
of
>the vehicle. It comes to a point in the front on the door,about 2" wide,=

>and I think is aluminum.
>
I would bet its actually stainless steel ... that's what our 57 Olds has =
on
the side of it, a good polish and you can't tell it from the chrome :)


>Is this the same trim that was used on the F-series trucks? If so, what
>years, and does anyone make reproductions? The trim on my van is dented =
and
>I would like to consider my options when I restore the exterior of my va=
n
>next year. I know that there are shops that specialize in trim restorati=
on,
>and they would probably do a bangup job, but I haven't priced that yet.
>

It may be pricey, but chrome shops and places like that can straighten an=
d
polish the stuff til it looks almost new. If its fairly simple (not lots=

of stripes or dimples that are supposed to be there) it shouldn't be too
much I wouldn't think ... and the buffing belts they have make quick work=

of polishing the stuff ...


>I good friend of mine said, "just stick some refridgerator molding on
>there." I found it funny, but not funny enough to follow through on! :)
>

would you have to paint it appliance white then ?


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:08:13 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator

what ever happened to welding? can't you weld radiators too? never had to
fix one so i have no idea.

Ian
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:16:56 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]

At 01:59 PM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
>I thought we were talking about pickups, not Falcons. Needs to be on another
>list.
>
Bobby! Glad you're back ... we really missed you around here ....


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:19:13 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Crew/King cab 4X4

Jeff Grant writes: >>i am looking for a
76-79 crew cab or king cab 4x4, i want a pretty nice one for daily
transportation, f250 or 350 would be a nice plus, if any body has seen one
for sale anywhere, email me the number at: jjjjjgrant aol.com

Jeff !!!! If you run across more than one N I C E one from '77 up, I might be
V E R Y interested.

Azie
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:27:45 -0700
From: "James A. Doty"
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]

Ford Man wrote:

Hi there:

I think the Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon is a van.

> I thought we were talking about pickups, not Falcons. Needs to be on another
> list.
>
> William S Hart wrote:
> At 11:21 AM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
> >My '66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon has narrow side trim running the length of
> >the vehicle. It comes to a point in the front on the door,about 2" wide,
> >and I think is aluminum.



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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:20:11 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator

At 02:08 PM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
>what ever happened to welding? can't you weld radiators too? never had to
>fix one so i have no idea.
>
most radiators are aluminum, solder works pretty good, brazing is probably
possible, but I think welding would be tough ...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:28:05 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 61-79 - side trim on vans same as F-trucks?]

Bravo Bobby!!!

>>I thought we were talking about pickups, not Falcons. Needs to be on another
>>list.

Funny, I thought we were discussing the possibility of interchageable
parts? Maybe you should go join that other list.

>Bobby! Glad you're back ... we really missed you around here ....

I feel so complete.

Tony
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:48:23 -0400
From: "Parsons, Raymond"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Manual Steering gearbox and fuel guage

Hey All!
I have two questions: 1) How hard is it to replace a manual steering
gearbox in a 67 F250? Any special tools or considerations! 2) My fuel
gauge just died; is this common or could it be the wiring? I checked the
sending unit with another gauge and it appears to be OK. Since I am
electronically illiterate, how can I go about testing the circuit ( I do
have a multi tester)? Or, would it be easier to try to run new wiring?
Thanks,
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:53:03 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Crew/King cab 4X4

Jeff Grant writes: >>i am looking for a
76-79 crew cab or king cab 4x4, i want a pretty nice one for daily
transportation, f250 or 350 would be a nice plus, if any body has seen one
for sale anywhere, email me the number at: jjjjjgrant aol.com

A neat place I found is Classifieds2000.com. They offer free classified
ads, so there is a lot of them. I didn't have a lot of time to browse
today, but I found a real nice looking '79 250 2WD Crew Cab with 98,000 on
it (The truck is from Canada, if it's 98,000kms, that's only about 60K
miles. They are asking $8495 Canadian (about $5,700 US). Looks nice.
Here is the url:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C15+A101+R500478513+Q352147
575

Neat thing about this place is you can set it to email you when new ads are
placed so you see them first and you can set parameters so if you only want
a '79 F250 (or whatever), you'll only get ads for '79 F250's.

Not the only place obviously, but worth a look, IMHO.
Rich
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:55:43 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Manual Steering gearbox and fuel guage

>2) My fuel
>gauge just died; is this common or could it be the wiring? I checked the
>sending unit with another gauge and it appears to be OK. Since I am
>electronically illiterate, how can I go about testing the circuit ( I do
>have a multi tester)? Or, would it be easier to try to run new wiring?

Yes, fuel gauges dying is a common problem on older vehicles ... if you've
checked the sending unit by putting another gauge on it (seems tough, but
if you say you've done it ...) then try testing the gauge ... if you can
get at the sending unit, pull the wire off of it, and ground that wire
against the frame somewhere ... your fuel gauge should peg itself all the
way over to the full side. If it doesn't move, the problem is the gauge or
the wiring ... if both are working fine, then likely its a grounding
problem. I ripped mine out, so rather than find the old wire and
everythign I just ran a new wire under the ground for my trailer plugs ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:49:39 -0500
From: "Darrell Dunn"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 360 motor conversion

I have a 1972 ford custom f 100 with a 360 two barrel. I need to replace the
long block. or should I install another motor? If so what motors will
install without a lot of frame changes. Also what transmissions will bolt
up?
Darrell
dunn direclynx.net

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:57:02 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 motor conversion

>I have a 1972 ford custom f 100 with a 360 two barrel. I need to replace the
>long block. or should I install another motor?

Probably depends on what makes you think you need a long block ... if you
are happy with the power and everything just the way it is, then maybe a
long or short block is for you ... if you want to make some changes to the
cam shaft or compression or something, then maybe you should consider
rebuilding it yourself, or having someone do it ... or if you want lots
more power or mileage, or easier to get parts, then maybe another motor is
in order ... its all in what you want to do with the vehicle ...

If so what motors will
>install without a lot of frame changes. Also what transmissions will bolt
>up?

any of the FE series (352, 360, 390, 427, 428, etc.) will bolt right in
place of the 360 with no changes ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:10:03 EDT
From: TOENY64 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 or 390 or???

i DONT KNOW EITHER BUT I WOULD LIKE THE SITE THAT U FOUND YOUR ENGINE TYPE ON
THANX
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:22:41 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Motorsport camshaft

Anyone have any input on using the Motorsport camshaft p/n FOR-M-6250-A341
for the 335 series motors (351C/M/400)? It looks like it has some pretty
good numbers, comparable to the cam used in the 400 build up in Hot Rod.
Duration: 292 deg (214 .050) int., 302 deg (224 .050) exh. Lift .510" int.,
.536" exh.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"



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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:29:19 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Eggs in radiator

Thanks for your message at 03:08 PM 6/23/99 EDT, IanBoss69 aol.com. Your
message was:
>what ever happened to welding? can't you weld radiators too? never had to
>fix one so i have no idea.

My father-in-law told me one time he and a buddy were out in the woods on
their old Ford Truck (of course), and their radiator somehow got split at
the seam on the upper tank. It was leaking pretty badly and they were
getting desperate. They fixed it (good enough to get back to town) by
laying a piece of coat hanger (wire, of course) in the split and "welding"
it by using their truck battery--touching a wire from the "+" post to the
wire until it got hot enough to melt sufficiently to hold the radiator
together enough to make it to real repair.

I'm not sure I would have thought of that, and with my luck, I wouldn't
have had a long enough, big enough wire...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:51:08 -0700
From: John & Iva McKay
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering for '67 F100

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get power steering on my "67
F100 360 ?

- --
John L. McKay
Mesa, Arizona
Fords Rule !
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Email: djspaints earthlink.net


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:17:38 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Motorsport camshaft

Bill Beyer wrote:
>Anyone have any input on using the
>Motorsport camshaft p/n FOR-M-6250-A341
>for the 335 series motors (351C/M/400)?
>It looks like it has some pretty good
>numbers, comparable to the cam used in the
>400 build up in Hot Rod.
>Duration: 292 deg (214 .050) int., 302 deg
>(224 .050) exh. Lift .510" int., .536" exh.

Yo Bill:

Those look like pretty nice numbers. These were the CompCams numbers HR said
they used:

Intake Lobe: 268/224 0.050"
Exhaust Lobe: 268/230 0.050"
Valve Lift (1.73:1 rocker): 0.524" int/0.529" exh

Comparing the Motorsports cam numbers w/ the HR cam numbers, the CompCam that HR
used moves the valves a lot faster. The CompCam has shorter overall duration
and comparable (actually longer) duration 0.050. Valve lift is similar.

I'd speculate that the Motorsports cam moving the valves a little slower might
be gentler on the valve seats, but I have to confess that I really don't know
enough about the performance implications of the valve opening duration from
0.050" to fully closed to assess it very intelligently. That said, I think the
main concerns would be bleeding off more of the cylinder pressure (i.e.,
effective compression ratio) with a longer overall duration and perhaps a poor
idle quality.

Those Motorsports cam numbers do look intriguing, though.

Dave R (M-block devotee)
P.S. You should raise this question w/ Muel over on the perf list.


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:46:59 EDT
From: Steer1098 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Somebody must know???

NO
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:48:53 EDT
From: Steer1098 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 or 390 or???

Use the VIN number.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:06:51 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

In a message dated 6/23/99 7:31:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
kendrick mddc.com writes:


those big blocks! >>....


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