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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question
RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question
FTE 61-79 - Converting R12 to R134a
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:4spd/auto
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1972 360cui
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1972 360cui
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:4spd/auto
FTE 61-79 - RE: Tire Sizes
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tire Sizes
Re: FTE 61-79 - More Emissions - Equipment Info needed
FTE 61-79 - Power disk brake conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - model years
Re: FTE 61-79 - hot starting problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - I hate "Cats" too !
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Emission Worries
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Junkyard Tips
FTE 61-79 - Re: Power Disc Brakes
FTE 61-79 - Re: Front groups on a 78 F-150
Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes
FTE 61-79 - A couple Questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - A couple Questions
FTE 61-79 - 66 F100 4x4
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 F100 4x4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Suprecab
Re: FTE 61-79 - Suprecab
FTE 61-79 - Finally, 460 brackets!
RE: FTE 61-79 - 1973 F-250 filler neck
FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70
Re: FTE 61-79 - model years
Re: FTE 61-79 - Who owns a trailer/flatbed?
Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70
RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally, 460 brackets!
RE: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70
Re: FTE 61-79 - A couple Questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question
FTE 61-79 - 78 f250 supercab for sale
FTE 61-79 - Shifter linkage problem, 1970 F100 3 speed
Re: FTE 61-79 - More Emissions - Equipment Info needed
Re: FTE 61-79 - A couple questions?

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:36:51 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question

Could it have a C-4? My service spec book (although it's from '76) shows the
C-4 being behind a 302.

I agree on the U-joints, check them out...

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From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com [mailto:tfreeman murphyfarms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question


Bob,

I would assume you would have a C6. The "Clunk" is most likely your
U-joints.
I'd check 'em out if I were you.

- -Ted




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Would anyone on the list please tell me what model automatic
transmission Ford put in the 72 F-100 w/302 V8?.....Also the transmission in
my 72 makes one heck of a "clunk" when shifting into reverse. I've checked
the fluid level and it's O.K., and there's no slippage at all in any gear
when taking off or shifting. I seem to remember as a young beat cop that
the
big Ford Customs that we drove in those days did the same thing and I don't
recall any big problems with down time, and we drove these cars for 100,000
plus miles. Is/was this normal for the transmission? Any help would be
appreciated
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:05:54 -0400
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question

It could be a C4. I belive the C4 has a square pan on it and the C6 has a pan
that looks like this: (maybe reverse but still missing the corner.)

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- -Ted




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Could it have a C-4? My service spec book (although it's from '76) shows the
C-4 being behind a 302.

I agree on the U-joints, check them out...

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Bob,

I would assume you would have a C6. The "Clunk" is most likely your
U-joints.
I'd check 'em out if I were you.

- -Ted




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Would anyone on the list please tell me what model automatic
transmission Ford put in the 72 F-100 w/302 V8?.....Also the transmission in
my 72 makes one heck of a "clunk" when shifting into reverse. I've checked
the fluid level and it's O.K., and there's no slippage at all in any gear
when taking off or shifting. I seem to remember as a young beat cop that
the
big Ford Customs that we drove in those days did the same thing and I don't
recall any big problems with down time, and we drove these cars for 100,000
plus miles. Is/was this normal for the transmission? Any help would be
appreciated
Bob
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:23:20 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Converting R12 to R134a

>> I'm still running R-12. I didn't have time to convert it myself and the
shop
>> wanted $700 to do it for me. They insisted my compressor, all hoses, and
all
>> O-rings would have to be replaced along with the dryer and the orifice
tube.
>> The $112 was $40 labor and 2.25 lbs. of freon 12.
>
>
> I'd try another shop! I had mine converted for $160 !!!
>
Not necessarily. Each vehicle is different in it's needs, depending not
only on the current condition of the system, but also what it was
originally equipped with. For example, some vehicles will need their
rubber hoses replaced if they are not barrier-type (R134a will seep through
nitrile hoses due to it's smaller molecule size). Others may already have
had such a replacement for other reasons and not need it and most newer
vehicles (say '92-up) are already so equipped. This is only one example.
Also some compressors are not as ameanable to R134a as others. I
understand the Ford FX-15 will promptly die if you put in R134a. R134a
does not return oil nearly as well as does R12 and the FX-15, among others,
relies more on oil in circulation in the system rather than in a
"crankcase" like the York, for example, for lubrication. I have two trucks
with FX-15 compressors and, as such, converted from R12 to R406A rather
than R134a. A lot of work is being done on alternatives which you can
investigate if you like at www.aircondition.com (I am not affiliated with
this site or any alternative manufacturer in any way). Some are good, some
are not so good apparantly. R406A has worked very well in my trucks so far.

I can tell you this - because of the incompatibility between R12 and R134a
(hell they are downright hostile to one another), the less you replace, the
more likely you are to have problems. I'm not saying a $160 job is not
just as good as a $700 job for your application, just that system
contamination is more likely the more componenents you reuse. The number
of variables that can cause your compressor to flop, for example, are quite
numerous. I can see why some shops would want to replace the whole thing
rather than try to warrant a less thorough job.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:40:21 -0700
From: jefro netscape.com (Jeffrey Osier-Mixon)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:4spd/auto

Whoever had my truck before me converted it from a C6 to a T18 manual. I
prefer it that way because I get 15-17mpg and can remove and disassemble the
trans in about an hour and a half. Automatic transmissions scare me.

Also, my coffee cup has a good tight-fitting lid, so that makes some
difference... :)

Of course, they left the old automatic steering column, so now whenever I get
in I keep trying to put the key in the hole where the shift handle used to be.
Habit.

Jefro (68 F100 390/T18)

Don wrote:

> I looked for about 9 months in the Seattle area for a 78/79 F250 4X4 with
> manual tranny...finally found it....drove it for about 3 weeks and
> converted it to a c6/tilt column. Had a shoulder operation and couldn't hit
> 3rd gear w/out causing pain. Even with a good shoulder I don't think I
> would change back to a manual. I LIKE the ability to drive down the road in
> the morning with a cup of coffee and having 99% of it taken internally
> rather then worn externally. ;-)
>
> Don, the guy who LIKES his C6!! ;-)
>
> At 11:14 PM 6/15/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >i have always found a manual trans much more enjoyable
> >to drive. i can't really explain it but i seem to pay
> >attention to the task of driving when i have to use
> >all my extremeties. has anyone ever swapped from an
> >auto back to the manual trans? it seems most people
> >go the other way. like i said before these things are
> >trucks right???

- --
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:39:22 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1972 360cui

Earlier, I wrote...

> >I used contact cement to glue the cork gaskets to the block which seems
to
> >work quite well along with a large gob of RTV in the corners where the
> >gaskets interlock.
........

> The cork gaskets I just tossed and followed the advice of someone on the
> list....first I put a bead of RTV where the gasket would normally
> sit...then I let that cure overnight, then next day I put on another bead
> on top of the old one ... let that cure for a few minutes, then set the
> intake manifold on the motor.
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> wish
..........

I wasn't going to use the cork intake gaskets at first. I laid a thick
bead of UltraCopper silicone down where the cork would normally go and
waited for it to cure. I then proceeded to "chicken out" when I formed an
image in my mind of the silicone trying to seal a large gap combined with
some vaccuum pressure (I then removed the silicone). After I torqued the
intake down using contact cement and the cork, I inspected it very closely
and found the gap wasn't nearly as large as I had imagined.


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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:55:25 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1972 360cui

> I wasn't going to use the cork intake gaskets at first. I laid a thick
>bead of UltraCopper silicone down where the cork would normally go and
>waited for it to cure. I then proceeded to "chicken out" when I formed an
>image in my mind of the silicone trying to seal a large gap combined with
>some vaccuum pressure (I then removed the silicone). After I torqued the
>intake down using contact cement and the cork, I inspected it very closely
>and found the gap wasn't nearly as large as I had imagined.
>
I had to psyche myself up for it, that's for sure, but I remembered how big
of a pain it was to get the cork to sit down correctly, so I just went for
it .. with an engine hoist it is so much easier that I decided I could
always change it. I've got about 500 miles on the motor now and its not
showing any signs of leaking there, its great! I was worried about the gap
at the top between the manifold and head when I first set it on, but
torquing down the bolts tightened it right up ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:59:37 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:4spd/auto

I feel that transmissions are a matter of preference. Both have good and
bad points but nothing beets coming up on a stop sign and downshifting
to hear the rumble of a good exhaust. Even though it can be done with an
automatic.

Manual transmissions make a fun driving truck lots more funner! eh? But
that's my opinion.

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Rob
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:17:33 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tire Sizes

I have 35x12.50 on my F-150, and it has a 3" Rancho lift. It has 3.5 gears
and they work ok ( pulled a 6000 lb trailer in high up and down hills with
no problem and no downshifting at 65 mph) , but I could stand a change to
4.10's (I turn 2500 rpms at 70, barely over idle at 55). If you have
3.90's and only want 33" tires, then I would say you don't need to swap
ratios.

As to the ARB, I would say get it , because the Audi I just bought has
locking center and rear diffs, and they pulled my through the mud road that
formed near my house after yesterdays torrential downpour (much needed, it
hasn't rained here in a month).

George Selby
78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4
86 Audi 4000CS Quattro
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:43:54 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tire Sizes

>As to the ARB, I would say get it , because the Audi I just bought has
>locking center and rear diffs, and they pulled my through the mud road that
>formed near my house after yesterdays torrential downpour (much needed, it
>hasn't rained here in a month).
>
Wow a place that needs rain ... want some of ours ? the crops are so far
behind because of all the rain ... not to mention it'd be nice to walk out
the door and step on dry grass for a change ... luckily the weekends have
had at least one good day in them most of the time ....

So the Audi does okay in the mud .... are those part time lockers in that,
or how does that work ? The new J**ps have posi's in all three locations,
and I just can't convince myself that's a good thing for people who don't
know 4wd ...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:25:12 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - More Emissions - Equipment Info needed

Thanks for your message at 01:03 AM 6/16/99 EDT, SHill48337 aol.com. Your
message was:

Now this is just going to confuse the hell out of some archaeologist 2000
years from now--You think the Kennewick Man is confusing them? Just wait
until they discover this 429 block (probably still running) with 460 info
all over the outside...

Think about your responsibility to posterity...

>This is what I recommended way back. There is no way to tell the difference
>by looking at the block. 429's have 460 cast into the block, because it
is a
>460 block. If you get the decals, by what ever means you want, then it is
>impossible to tell unless you pull the oil pan and look at the numbers cast
>in to the crank!! Good Luck
>Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F250 4x4 460

Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:12:26 -0400
From: jdrvup mindspring.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power disk brake conversion

I have a 65 F-100 with 4-wheel drum brakes and no power booster. I'm
following the tech article from the newsgroup webpage with relative success.
My current question is regarding the pedal pushrod from the power booster,
it appears to be too short. All my parts are from a 74 F-100. Any
suggestions or past experiences would be greatly appreciated. I'm almost
done and anxious to see how the project turns out.

Joe
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:27:57 -0700
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - model years

>I think that the first model year for Supercabs was 74, but they were
>introduced about May or June of 73, well before the regular model year
>change. Everything else at your local dealer would have been a 73. I can see
>where the confusion would come in.

My '78 bronco is also from '77, in fact it is the only one I've seen that
still has the round headlights vs the square ones ford switched to shortly
afterwards. Right now I've already heard the first commercial about the '99
cleanup, they probably want to introduce the 2000 models ASAP. '99 models
are going to be relatively rare :) .. I wonder if they are going to redo
some body styling too.

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:39:25 -0700
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hot starting problems

>have had horrible service from whatever I got from HiLo (O'Rielly) and Delco
>(duh).

Tell me about it.. when I bought my truck it had a battery with a cracked
cell (surprisingly it still started pretty well), bye bye battery tray.. so
a friend of mine worked at a ch#*y dealer, he got me a ACDelco battery.
What a piece of junk, it said 700 CCA and just a miserable 2 months later
it was fried. I got another one now which is keeping up better although the
little indicator on top already doesn't show green anymore. The only good
part about it is that it was free.

So what about these optima batteries, 1000CCA deep cycle? Sounds good. A
friend of mine used some for his robot in the robot wars. He had two
starter motors to drive it, they would draw up to 1000 amps (he measured),
the thing was burning rubber, whoa!




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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:49:07 -0700
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I hate "Cats" too !

>> What I am saying is that an engine that is to be used with unleaded
>should
>> under no circumstances be run without a Cat Converter.

I wouldn't know where to get leaded fuel though.. my engine does not have a
cat either. Hmm, I should check whether it says unleaded fuel on the
decal.. it is a '78 so I always assumed it was unleaded.



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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:03:23 -0700
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Emission Worries

>534 X X X X X X 8 8

Cool, where can I get a 534?? That's enough to burn rubber on a motorhome :)





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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:35:36 -0700
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Junkyard Tips

>usaly say "aw about fifty bucks" and i've gotten some real good deals (or

The junk yards here around san jose are no good though; I know one where
you can pick and pull, yet everything has a list price of about half what
the dealer asks; you get a receipt with their part # and description etc,
certainly not cheap - and no warranty. Then the others I've been to pulled
the parts for you, at least then you know what you get, which includes
warranty.

Maybe I should inquire with some locals here, see what they do.

Bas.
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:27:49 -0700
From: Carey & Norm
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Power Disc Brakes

My '65 F-250 has a set up from a '76 F-250. The entire front I-beam assembly was used with the exception of the springs (kept the old ones) because they were too tall. Everything else went right in.

Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:56:16 -0400
From: "Ted & Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Disc Brakes

I believe everything up to a '78 will fit the '67-'72. I know there is an
excellent tech article on the main page that covers this swap. I'm getting
parts of a '78 and have been told that I can take the whole I-beam and
it'll work. I like the meater look of the older ones, so I'll probably
keep mine.

- - -Ted

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> From: Sam Weatherby
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Disc Brakes
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 7:49 PM
>
> I have '74 parts on my '65. Shouldn't be much problem at all.
> I swapped over the spindles, but I keep wondering if I could have swapped
> the I-beams at the same time.
> I would suggest comparing the lengths of the I-beams when swapping.
> -srw
>




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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:40:36 -0600
From: "Grady M. Shock"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Front groups on a 78 F-150

Hi all,
This is my first post so if I'm being stupid let me know. I own a 78
F-150 4x4 with a 400m. Maybe you already know this but I'm gonna spout it
out anyways. The major diff between the 73-77 and the 78-79 F-series front
clips would be the placement of the turn indicators and headlights on the
73-77 the indicators are above the headlights and the headlights are round
on the 78-79 F-series including the Bronco's the indicators are below the
headlights and the headlights are square. My assumption is that the two are
not interchangeable due to diff headlight hardware and shapes.

Could be wrong! I'd like to know how it turns out

- -Grady Shock

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:50:52 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes






This is my mistake, the guy I bought the truck off of said it was a 351W and
I've been assuming that it was. I also had suspicions about that and
consulted a wrench-turning buddy, it is indeed a 351M. Found that out this
afternoon, only had the truck a week. SO I'll be sure and correct that on my
later posts, if i don't be sure and kick me in the butt to correct me,

Thanks
Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd, 351((((M))))
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:54:55 CDT
From: Daniel Hansen
Subject: FTE 61-79 - A couple Questions

I am planning on basically driving it but i will race it sometimes during
the summer and what i mean by that is that i will probably race it 2-4 times
a month for about 4 months. I have some performance on the motor like i
have high performance spark plugs, wires, and coil, and fuel pump, the
pistons are basically stock, but i can't figure out what kind of
compresstion i have is there anyway to find out before i start it up cause i
want to put a stall in there before i install it. The motor itself is going
into a 1973 F-100. It is going to look really sharp when i get it all done.
I have last question here that i just thought about and that is, is there
anyway on the internet i can go look at what different kinds and colors of
paint. I need to find a color and i am having a hard time finding what i
like so is there any address on the internet. Thanks for all of the help.

Endroman


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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:20:25 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A couple Questions

Speaking of paint, i have decided on the old 70 boss 429 blue, but i cant
remember the name, aca?????? blue, something like that. I also read
somewhere about a company who makes graphics that were offered on production
specials, such as the black cowl and side graphics on the boss 302, or the
"billboards" on the rear quarters of the old 'c*das, but i can't find the
magazine it was in. any chance anybody has referance to this company or has
used their products?

thanks

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
"True blue,,,Ford blue"
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:40:55 EDT
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 66 F100 4x4

Anyone in the Great Lakes (NE Illinois) area know where I can find some
decent (and inexpensive) rear leaf springs for my 66 F100 4x4? They are 2
1/4 inches wide and have 9 leafs, although the previous owner may have added
the last few. Thanks guys!
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:49:45 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 F100 4x4

try www.lmctruck.com they have tons of vintage ford truck parts, request a
catalog for your specific year

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:57:16 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Suprecab

In a message dated 6/16/99 9:06:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
blueoval jefnet.com writes:


sure tell it was the first year though, you can see where they took a
extended cab and basically added a piece in. the rear doors where also hand
rolled at the factory.
>>
No way, I know of a beautiful black 67-72 F-250 crew cab (four door)..Real
pretty truck. The kind not even I would take wheelin.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:21:50 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Suprecab

they were made back into the 60's at least, or earlier, as a special order
item, but were at the dealer in '73...

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 02:35 PM 6/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Michael claims:
>
>> 1973 is the first year for the 4 door ford trucks....I have one!! You can
>> sure tell it was the first year though, you can see where they took a
>> extended cab and basically added a piece in. the rear doors where also hand
>> rolled at the factory.
>>
>
>Gee, I guess I'll have to uns*bscribe, my 1970 F250 4-door crew
>cab is an imposter :-). It was built in Canada, but I'm pretty
>sure by Ford.
>
>List member Jeff C. from Sacramento has a 1964 F100 crew cab,
>which his father bought new from a ford dealer. It was, however
>built by an aftermarket or coach builder. I believe Jeff has
>written here that the 1965 model crew cabs were built by Ford.
>--
>Pat Brown
>Sebastopol, California
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:28:10 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Finally, 460 brackets!

finally found a complete bracket and pulley setup!

Well, after calling over 27 junkyards, everyone within a 100mile radius, i
have finally located a non-car vehicle with a 460 in it, a '78 van. No
joke! out of 27, nobody had a truck or van with a 460 in it. anwyays, its
a 70 mile drive from here and i was wondering if the brackets and pulleys
will mount allright under my hood? If not, can anybody out there help me
out with this setup?? off a truck maybe? INCLUDING P/S pump pulley?

thanx!
cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:59:58 -0700
From: "Steve Schwartz"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 1973 F-250 filler neck

Thanks to all who replied. I believe I will attempt to find a '75 - '76
F-100 neck, per Rich's suggestion. I have checked out the neck repair kits,
and find them too crummy. If I have to, I'll resort to the dealer, once I
verify the year/model I need.

If anyone has one of these laying around on a parts truck or something, I
will gladly pay you a princely sum. Well, maybe a serfly sum...

Thanks again,

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of William S Hart
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 6:23 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1973 F-250 filler neck
>
>
> >I have a 1973 F-250 w/Explorer pkg, with a single, rear mounted gas tank.
> >The filler neck is NOT behind an access door, i.e., it is almost
> flush with
> >the rear, driver's side fender, behind the wheelwell.
> >
> Lots of us know what you're going through ... some moreso than others ..
>
> >Does anyone have, or know of, an UNLEADED filler neck, perhaps
> from a later
> >truck, that will fit this type of setup?

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:17:40 -0700
From: Don
Subject: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70

No prob Ian! wait till you get into the debate over "is it 400m or 400?" ;-)
Also for those who might know..... I was chattin with a guy from the bronco
list who said that the 79 F350 4X4 standard cab NEVER came with a Dana 70
in non-dually config....I thought that F350=1ton=dana 70 rear....anybody
know for sure????

Don

it is indeed a 351M. Found that out this
>afternoon, only had the truck a week. SO I'll be sure and correct that on my
>later posts, if i don't be sure and kick me in the butt to correct me,
>
>Thanks
>Ian
>79 F250 4x4 4spd, 351((((M))))
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:09:16 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Long"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - model years

The 78 Broncos & F series "custom" trucks had round headlights while the
"rangers" had square headlights. 79 everything had square headlights.

Rob
78 F250 -400M-

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:39:43 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Who owns a trailer/flatbed?

a friend of mine has someone that moves cars for him, had one shipped from
arizona to georgia and it cost about 700.00, i'll check with him to see who
he uses.
if you get hemmings motor news, there are alot of transporters listed in
there,

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:00:49 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70

In a message dated 6/16/99 8:08:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, donr nidlink.com
writes:


bronco
list who said that the 79 F350 4X4 standard cab NEVER came with a Dana 70
in non-dually config....I thought that F350=1ton=dana 70 rear....anybody
know for sure???? >>

My F-350 has a Dana 70. ITs also a standard cab, although it is only a 2wd.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:59:27 -0500
From: Jeff Lester
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally, 460 brackets!

If you travel to get the brackets, can I ask a favor? Would you
email me the details on the grille on this van? I am repairing
my 78 E350 4x4 after my wife rear-ended another vehicle.
I have all of the parts but the grille. I am looking for a chrome/
black OEM one in *nice* shape. The only ones that I have
been able to locate are argent/black. This van is very special
to me, and it *was* in great shape. I hope to have it back on
the road again soon =]

Take care,

Jeff Lester - Houston, Texas
78 E350 4x4 Pathfinder
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1978_e350_1.html

On Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:28 PM, cannandale netpointe.com [SMTP:cannandale netpointe.com] wrote:
> finally found a complete bracket and pulley setup!
>
> Well, after calling over 27 junkyards, everyone within a 100mile radius, i
> have finally located a non-car vehicle with a 460 in it, a '78 van. No
> joke! out of 27, nobody had a truck or van with a 460 in it. anwyays, its
> a 70 mile drive from here and i was wondering if the brackets and pulleys
> will mount allright under my hood? If not, can anybody out there help me
> out with this setup?? off a truck maybe? INCLUDING P/S pump pulley?
>
> thanx!
> cannandale
> '78 F250 4x4, 460
[snip]

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:02:16 -0500
From: Jeff Lester
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70

Don,

I know my van's configuration may not answer your question,
but it has a stock Dana 70... and no... it is not a dually.

Jeff Lester - Houston, Texas
78 E350 4x4 Pathfinder
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1978_e350_1.html

On Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:18 PM, Don [SMTP:donr nidlink.com] wrote:
> No prob Ian! wait till you get into the debate over "is it 400m or 400?" ;-)
> Also for those who might know..... I was chattin with a guy from the bronco
> list who said that the 79 F350 4X4 standard cab NEVER came with a Dana 70
> in non-dually config....I thought that F350=1ton=dana 70 rear....anybody
> know for sure????
>
> Don
[snip]
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:11:07 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A couple Questions

ACADEMY BLUE stock color of my 64 f-100 . hope this helped.........
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:13:21 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tire sizes & F350 w/dana70

oh, forgot to add, mines a single wheel also

Darrell
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:52:51 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Question

Hm..... this is a wild shot, not going to check it at all before "opening
my mouth",,, but hasn't the C4 a separate bell housing, possible to remove
from the rest of the tranny... and the C6 has a bellhousing cast in one
with the tranny, and the FMX has a cast iron tranny.... ???

Shold be one of those.

Bill

>
> > Would anyone on the list please tell me what model automatic
> >transmission Ford put in the 72 F-100 w/302 V8?.....
>
> Might be a C4 ... check the pan shape on it, then go to your local
> autoparts store, they should have pictures or drawings of the pan shape
> that will let you identify it for sure ... or I'm sure there's guys on
the
> list who can do it from memory too ...
>
>
> >Also the transmission in
> >my 72 makes one heck of a "clunk" when shifting into reverse. I've
checked
> >the fluid level and it's O.K., and there's no slippage at all in any
gear
> >when taking off or shifting.
>
> Check the rear end and be sure those gears are tight, remember there's
more
> places for slop than just the tranny when it comes to putting power to
the
> ground ... in my case it was a worn xfer case, my sister's I think is a
> little of the rear end since the case was recently rebuilt ...
>
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> wish
>
> Links
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html
> '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
> '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:20:43 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 78 f250 supercab for sale

saw an ad for a 78 f250 supercab xlt today, its loaded but the ac is not
working, it has a 351 with automatic, the fellow says it has leather int in
excellent cond. he must mean vinyl, the truck only has 72k origianl miles,
and has a nice leer camper cover on it, he's asking $3500.00 for it, i think
i'm going to take a peak, but i need to sell the powerstroke. the 78 will be
its replacement.

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:22:36 EDT
From: Spike188 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Shifter linkage problem, 1970 F100 3 speed

Need Help! Ive got a 70 F100 with 3 speed on the column. I bought it cheap
and it had a broken shift collar. I bought a new collar but I cant figure
out how to put it in.
When I slide the collar on over the steering column, it doesnt go down all
the way to the bottom as it should. It stops about an inch from where it....


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