61-79-list-digest Saturday, March 20 1999 Volume 03 : Number 094



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus
Re: FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus
FTE 61-79 - Parts pricing
FTE 61-79 - FE Piston stamping #'s
FTE 61-79 - 460 thermostat
FTE 61-79 - Chrome interior trim Question
FTE 61-79 - muffler
FTE 61-79 - Computer Viruses
FTE 61-79 - carb spacer
FTE 61-79 - Bronco search
RE: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Piston stamping #'s
FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Starter Heat Soak
Re: FTE 61-79 - 8" Rear End
Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search
Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203
Re: FTE 61-79 -429 head swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
Re: FTE 61-79 -429 head swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search
RE: FTE 61-79 -429 head swap
FTE 61-79 - Re: Hot Starter
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Back on topic
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
FTE 61-79 - *HOT* Starter
FTE 61-79 - Good brakes
FTE 61-79 - Engine swap & Bronco codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
FTE 61-79 - RE: Green Sales Co.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square
FTE 61-79 - new guy
FTE 61-79 - turn signals don't cancel
Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap & Bronco codes
Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square
Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square
FTE 61-79 - Re: Green Sales Co.
FTE 61-79 - Re: Green Sales Co.
Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square
Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square
FTE 61-79 - Transmission Gear Ratios
FTE 61-79 - Transmission Gear Ratios
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis
FTE 61-79 - RE: Slipper skirt pistons and purple striped bugs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Duraspark II problems
FTE 61-79 - 351C Tunnel Ram
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Slipper skirt pistons and purple striped bugs
Re: FTE 61-79 - 8" Rear End
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C Tunnel Ram

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:54:12 -0600
From: "Lorin Missall"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Is it possible without to many modifications to put a Ford body on a ch*y =
chassis. The reason for doing this is because I like the suspension on =
the '78 ch*y heavy half. I looked on my '76 Ford and it seemed just a few =
body mounts would have to be moved. I was more concerned with steering =
and brake master cylinder mounts. Any info and ideas would be helpful.

Lorin
'76 Ford F100 4x4
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 06:20:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus

Someone stated that Norton Antivirus would not pick up happy99.exe
because it is a worm.. Sorry, but that is incorrect.. I am running
Norton's vrs. 5 with all the latest updates and it caught the
happy99.exe worm before it downloaded... it was sent to me via some
unsuspecting person's email...

just my 2 cents ..

By the way, I manage a large computer network and we run a combination
of Norton's and McAfee... both caught many instances of happy99..

Bill in Texas

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:22:03 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus

>By the way, I manage a large computer network and we run a combination
>of Norton's and McAfee... both caught many instances of happy99..
>
>Bill in Texas

I'm fairly sure the latest version of Dr. Solomon (7.93) catches it too ...
(same situation, different programs here )

Bill in Iowa

Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:41:24 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Parts pricing

>>The Ford man's answer: Our price is only $20 when we don't have it and =
can't get it.

I once went to buy a car. It was all beat up but had a good engine which
was what I wanted it for anyway. I offered the guy $300. He hummed and
hawed and then said the last guy offered him $500. When I asked why he
didn't sell it, he said the guy didn't have any money. "Well I could offer
you $3000 if I wasn't going to buy and had no money. I want the car and I
have cash in my pocket!" He replied: "Sold!".

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:09:32 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Piston stamping #'s

YOU guys write: >>
> Hey Stu, I know exactly how you feel, when I pulled the pistons from my 76
> 390 they had 410 cast into them! Now that I think about it, I'm fairly
> sure that the 390 I took apart had never been opened up either ... weird
> huh ?
>
> Well now I know I guess ... the pistons don't pop out the top of the block
> at TDC :)


It's quite possible that they did the same thing to the late 390's as
they did to the 360's (used the 390 piston to provide lower compression,
instead of making a piston that comes to the top with a dish) using the
piston from the 410 in the 390 to lower compression, as they would come
up .100 or thereabouts lower in the cylinder. Economies, you know, use
up all of those parts.

Would someone that has the 410 stamped piston measure the wrist pin location
from the top of the piston and compare it to one of the 390 stamped pistons, for
me. (If my calculations are correct, there should be .100" difference) I've
just purchased a set of "410" pistons from a fellow list member, and I was
certain in my own mind that the stampings was a correct way of ID'ing them.....
Now I have my doubts..

TIA

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:53:18 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 thermostat

>>I am not going to argue this point any more, but I will say this. If you
run a 180 you will still have plenty of heat. If you run a 160, you may
have a little less heat. I run a 180 through about march, and then I take
the thing out completely until about September.

I won't argue the point either. All I have to go by is experience. The
proper oil and a good maintenance schedule will lengthen your engine life
far more than any thermostat you choose. With my 160 I have plenty of heat.
At 40 below in Wisconsin etal, maybe not. Another consideration would be
the vacuum thermostats that open your timing advance signal and what not.
If these don't open properly you will suffer all sorts of performance
problems. This next sentence is in invisible ink: Mine have all been
creatively bypassed.


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:17:44 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Chrome interior trim Question

>> How do I keep
the insert from peeling any more?

Store your truck in a climate controlled storage area. Never take it out
for any reason. Seriously, I don't think you can prevent the glue from
deteriorating nor the wood grain from fading if you are going to use the
truck. The heat and sunlight kill that kind of stuff. You can diminish
sunlight with dark tint or folding sun shades. I have a louver on my rear
window to keep the sun out. Before I tinted my windows I cut a cardboard
windsheild shade to fit my door glasses and used another on the rear glass.
A friend of mine covers his 84 Camaro with a cloth cover during the day
while it is in the parking lot. The downside to shades is the hassle of
taking them down and putting them up plus storing them.

- -John

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1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:08:36 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - muffler

>>loud in Ohio
mc baker

mc,

Talk to your trusted independent muffler shop owner (not a chain shop like
Midas or Mieneke). There are a lot of good high flow mufflers with various
sound outputs. The loudest mufflers don't always flow the best. Personally,
with your setup, I would go with true duals all the way back. This is a
little more expensive, but performance wise is generally prefferred. We
regularly have a discussion about H-pipes or equalizers. I'm against,
others are for. I put a setup similar to what I am describing on my 88
Towncar which also has 2 cats. It is quiet, has lots of giddyup, and gets
about 22 mpg cruising at 70. It had a single muffler before and rarely got
above 19 mpg. On my truck, which has a single cat, they put on a high flow
single in dual out muffler. It has just a tad of a rumble, but not much. It
looks like true duals unless you crawl underneath. I am extremely pleased
with this setup also.

True duals may be a challenge because of the front gas tank if you have one.

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:27:38 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Computer Viruses

Ken,

I apologize for the off topic post but feel the wrath to be suffered
outweighs the potential aggravation saved.

List members,
These two sites will answer almost all of your virus questions:

Computer Virus Myths home page http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://kumite.com/myths/
SARC - Virus Hoaxes http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html

Please feel free to e-mail me off list if you have further questions about
viruses.

Lame attempt at FTE content: 61-79 Ford trucks have no onboard computer. I
know Henry will start the morning of January 1, 2000, along with all the
other FTE list member's trucks.



- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:39:38 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - carb spacer

Paul,

It sounds like you need to fabricate a thin spacer or gasket out of steel
that covers the exhaust gallery and leaves the intakes open. This spacer
would go immeditely on top of the manifold. The purpose of the exhaust is
to keep the carb warm, especially during cold start warmup cycle. If you do
away with the exhaust gallery, you may introduce a whole new set of
problems.




- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:52:24 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search

I have begun to search for a used 4X4 sport ute. What year did full size
Broncos start with the fuel injected 351? Did they also have FI 302's and
if so, what year did they start? Any stock FI 460's? What about auto OD
trannies?

Is there a web site that has this info?

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:15:58 -0500
From: "John MacNamara"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search

You can try www.bronco. com . I think they have a section on the full size
broncos and when they get their BBS going again, there will be people to
answer your questions.

Thanks
John MacNamara

805 577 2536 wk
805 577 2768 fx
805 526 3464 hm
ESN 495-2536
jmacnam nortelnetworks.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From:John LaGrone [SMTP:jlagrone ford-trucks.com]
> Sent:Friday, March 19, 1999 7:52 AM
> To:Ford Trucks 61-79
> Subject:FTE 61-79 - Bronco search
>
> I have begun to search for a used 4X4 sport ute. What year did full size
> Broncos start with the fuel injected 351? Did they also have FI 302's and
> if so, what year did they start? Any stock FI 460's? What about auto OD
> trannies?
>
> Is there a web site that has this info?
>
> -John
>
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com
> 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:22:35 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Piston stamping #'s

>Would someone that has the 410 stamped piston measure the wrist pin location
>from the top of the piston and compare it to one of the 390 stamped pistons,
>for
>me. (If my calculations are correct, there should be .100" difference) I've
>just purchased a set of "410" pistons from a fellow list member, and I was
>certain in my own mind that the stampings was a correct way of ID'ing
them.....
>Now I have my doubts..
>
Sorry Azie, mine are all gone, the guy at the machine shop did the
piston-rod connecting stuff for me, so I never saw them after I dropped
them off. When I saw the pistons and such I was pretty sure they were
sitting too far down in the bore, and fitting these new ones (390's) in,
they are definitley closer to the top of the deck (read: probably too high
of a compression ratio) ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:27:10 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Starter Heat Soak

I got this through a private email and can't remember the original
recipient, so I thought I'd pass it along to the list:

>I was looking through my Camping World catalogue recently
> www.campingworld.com ) and on page 100 of the hard copy, they sell a
>special Mean Green Heavy Duty starter ($299) for both GM 454 and Ford 460s
>(#14062) to specifically solve "Hot Start" (Heat Soak) problems in RVs.
>


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:22:10 -0500
From: Brad Smith
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 8" Rear End

At 10:44 PM 3/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I have some questions about 8" rear ends. Is it worth rebuilding a 8" or
>what do I gain anything by buying a 9" rear end. If it is better is a
>bolt on job or what is involved in the swap? Is it true that the 8" has
>a round pumpkin and the 9" has a place for the gear to protrude out of
>the back?.... My 8" is starting to leak at the input shaft when it sets
>for a day. I just had my driveline serviced and a new seal, bushing on
>my C6 & yoke on my driveline done yesterday. I still have a slight
>vibration around 60 mph. Could the vibration be from the rear end?
>
>Thanks,
>Art Verling
>64 F100
>AV ix.netcom.com
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As you probably know, the Ford 9" rear end is the standard for durability.
This is a "semi floating" rear end in which the entire gear cluster with
differential removes from the carrier. I am almost positive that you could
get a 9" on that truck, so it should be a relatively easy bolt on. You may
have to do some mods on the driveshaft end to get the U-Joints to work.
Now as far as the vibration goes, I would say it is more likely that you
have got U-Joint problems. You may want to angle shim your rear axle to
decrease the angle on the U-Joints. I have had pretty good luck with the
Super-Joints that you can buy at most parts stores, as well as Spicer
joints that can be hard to find, but are available at many heavy equipment
dealers. Good luck!
Brad
78 F150 4X4 429

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:45:20 -0600
From: "Michael Masse"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203

That's a divorced case isn't it? It would probably be real easy to swap =
in a 205 instead. No more chains to break!

Mike


>>> "Brett Yerks" 18-03-99 9:54:48 PM >>>
I broke the chain in my 203 transfer case last weekend, it ended up =
blowing
a hole out the bottom of the case. I found a 4x4 shop in the area that has =
a
tcase with a 30 day guarantee. I'm curious if theres anything special I
should look for when buying a used case. Is there a way to tell if the =
chain
is tight?

TIA
Brett
76 F250 4x4 460 38's
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:40:59 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search

John MacNamara wrote:
>
> You can try www.bronco. com .

Try this

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /4x4web/ford/bigbroncos/

and specifically this

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.Off-Road.com/4x4web/ford/bigbroncos/faq.html

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:57:47 -0600
From: "Brett"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP203

Yeah, its a divorced case. I plan on doing that conversion sometime this
summer, or when cash flow is a little higher anyway. Right now I've got all
new driveshafts and u-joints, which would all have to be replaced for the
205. I wish I had the cash to do it now but I think I'm just going to
replace the 203 and hope this one lasts til the conversion. Any tips on how
to tell if the 203 I'm buying is any good? It does have a 30 day warranty so
at least I'm covered for a bit.

Brett


>That's a divorced case isn't it? It would probably be real easy to swap in
a >205 instead. No more chains to break!
>Mike


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:21:10 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -429 head swap

Thanks for your message at 11:21 PM 3/18/99 PST, steve potratz. Your
message was:
>Question. I am planning a 460 swap into my 78 supercab 4wd and am
>concerned about valve cover clearance with the factory A/C. Has anyone
>advice on this? I have also been considering using the 71 429 block I
>have with the 78 460 heads. Is this a good move?

Won't the original '71 heads give you more compression? I have a '70 429
and am very interested in the response to this...
Dennis L. Pearson

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:22:37 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Thanks for your message at 07:54 AM 3/19/99 -0600, Lorin Missall. Your
message was:
>Is it possible without to many modifications to put a Ford body on a ch*y
chassis.

AARRGHHH!


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:21:10 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -429 head swap

Thanks for your message at 11:21 PM 3/18/99 PST, steve potratz. Your
message was:
>Question. I am planning a 460 swap into my 78 supercab 4wd and am
>concerned about valve cover clearance with the factory A/C. Has anyone
>advice on this? I have also been considering using the 71 429 block I
>have with the 78 460 heads. Is this a good move?

Won't the original '71 heads give you more compression? I have a '70 429
and am very interested in the response to this...
Dennis L. Pearson

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:59:57 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus

Dr Solomon and McAfee are owned by the same company. It figures they would
share info.

- -----Original Message-----
From: William S Hart
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Worm Vrs Virus


>>By the way, I manage a large computer network and we run a combination
>>of Norton's and McAfee... both caught many instances of happy99..
>>
>>Bill in Texas
>
>I'm fairly sure the latest version of Dr. Solomon (7.93) catches it too ...
>(same situation, different programs here )
>



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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:01:25 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Is it possible without to many modifications to put a Ford body on a
ch*y chassis.

AARRGHHH!

Make that double AARRGHHH...whats so appealing about the Che*y?
Just Curious
Chris
94 lightning #381
NLCO #238
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:11:08 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search

First of all you won't find any stock FI 460s in any broncos. Most of them
were FI 302s with a few 300s. The first year for the FI 302 was 1986 I
believe. I'm really not sure about the 351s I don't recall ever seeing one
when I was working in the dealership but that may have been a Ca emissions
thing. If they did come with FI it would have been 86 or 87. Same for the
auto OD trannies.

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From: John LaGrone
To: Ford Trucks 61-79
Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 7:57 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bronco search


>I have begun to search for a used 4X4 sport ute. What year did full size
>Broncos start with the fuel injected 351? Did they also have FI 302's and
>if so, what year did they start? Any stock FI 460's? What about auto OD
>trannies?
>



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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:21:59 -0600
From: "John MacNamara"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 -429 head swap

I've done this swap before and there was no problem with the A/C interfering
with the valve cover. The toughest fit is the front of the pan clearing the
front crossmember.
Thanks
John MacNamara

805 577 2536 wk
805 577 2768 fx
805 526 3464 hm
ESN 495-2536
jmacnam nortelnetworks.com

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>
> Thanks for your message at 11:21 PM 3/18/99 PST, steve potratz. Your
> message was:
> >Question. I am planning a 460 swap into my 78 supercab 4wd and am
> >concerned about valve cover clearance with the factory A/C. Has anyone
> >advice on this? I have also been considering using the 71 429 block I
> >have with the 78 460 heads. Is this a good move?
>
> Won't the original '71 heads give you more compression? I have a '70 429
> and am very interested in the response to this...
> Dennis L. Pearson
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:55:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Hot Starter

Shawn,

Pay close attention to your starter to solenoid connections. Clean
them completely, tighten them good (being careful not to turn the stud
on the starter), and put some grease on the connections to prevent
oxidation. When the starter engages it pulls a lot of current thru
those connections. A warm engine can require more current to turn than
a cold one if the oil has drained off the cylinder walls. A little
resistance and a lot of current equals heat. (P=I**2 X R). The heat
then causes oxidation of the metals in the connection. The oxidation
causes increased resistance, and more voltage drop (E=I X R). Since
more voltage is now across the connections, there is less across the
starter, hence slow starting. When it happens again feel the
connections to determine if any are hot. Also if you have a voltmeter
check the voltage at the starter terminal with the engine cold and
hot. You should find that there is less voltage when it's hot than cold.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:19:11 -0800
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

this might be slightly off topic but here goes anyway. First off I own a
89 f150 4x4 I6 300 4-sp and this is a great truck, however about four
years ago when my job had me working(living) in Rio Rancho (Intel
Site)New Mexico I would drive different makes of 4x4 rental vehicles
including a Ford Explorer, Toyota 4runner and a ch**y Blazer. I would
take these vehicles off road every chance I got, the ford had the best
power, the Toyota's suspension seemed to handle the terrain the best,
but the ch**y had the best overall performance. I expect to be flamed
for this so flame on!!!
ES

P.S. Even though This was my experience I still prefer the FORD products
based primarily on looks and durability.

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> Is it possible without to many modifications to put a Ford body on a
> ch*y chassis.
>
> AARRGHHH!
>
> Make that double AARRGHHH...whats so appealing about the Che*y?
> Just Curious
> Chris
> 94 lightning #381
> NLCO #238
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:23:28 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Back on topic

Let's try to steering back to trucks (pun intended). The virus
topic was an FYI for list members and should not be an ongoing
topic in our forums.

Thanks,
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:41:12 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Ok, I've stood by long enough. Why in the heck would anyone put a Ford body
onto a chassis that has several weakness? The Corporate axles down right
suck. If they didn't I wouldnt see so many 9 inchers under Camaros out at the
drag strip. And dont forget the countless # of steering boxes that have
fallen off the chevies from wheelin more than once a year. And dont say it
doesnt happen, because if it didnt there wouldnt be all these different Braces
and such for trying to prevent it from happening. I just dont see why anyone
would want to do this. And all of the technical stuff aside, this type of
Swap is downright dishonerable. I mean building 37 Ford Coupe and throwin a
350 in it is one thing. I happen to think it makes for a good combo. But to
Destroy a truck in the manner you are describing, It makes my skin crawl.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:47:03 -0500
From: Shawn Flaugher
Subject: FTE 61-79 - *HOT* Starter

Well,
The first time this happened, I replaced the
Coil, Batt, Volt. Reg, Solenoid, and all connecting wires,
and still had the same problem.
(The whole Distributor is only 2 months old).
I have had a few electrical problems in the cab, but nothing too
serious.
The starter cranks perfect, and the engine fires the first time, every
time when it's cold-- but as it heats up I'll get a slow start.

After I replaced the starter, It would crank hot just fine. But after 2
weeks it
is now starting to show signs of the same thing.

I got the first starter at Advance, and they replaced it for free when I
brought it in.

How should I check to see if the starter is disengaging all the way? I
figure the only way is to
take it off the block and crank it.

Thanks,
Shawn
(71 F100, 302)



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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:14:50 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Good brakes

Hello folks. I just wanted to let yall know that thanks to Fords great
brakes, Im now the proud owner of a new dog. I Was cruisin down the street
and the lil thing jumped out in front of me. But shes ok, and currently
sleepin under one of my tables. I even named her Effie.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"

PS I hope this is truck oriented. Ken???
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:16:10 -0800
From: MC
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap & Bronco codes

Hi guys. I have a couple of quick questions for you. A friend of mine
just bought a '79 Bronco and we looked up the vin # on a site, but it
didn't tell us anything that we didn't already know. I am wondering if
someone could look up the vin for us in one of your manuals and tell us
what the axles are(we think it is a Dana 44 and a 9") and also what the
gearing should be. We couldn't find a tag on the front. The vin # is
U15HLEH0891. There were a couple of other numbers on the tag, but we
couldn't figure out what they were for. Also, my friend's father-in-law
just bought an Econoline van with a 300 6 cyl. and he was asking if a
302 could be swapped in. I don't think it will work, but I told him I
would ask anyway. How about a 351w? Probably not enough room in the
engine compartment, but would it bolt to the tranny?

- --
Matt Cozad
1994 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 "Yoda"
1970 F100 4x4 "Jabba the Truck"
1969 F100 4x4 "Spare Parts"


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:20:50 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

this might be slightly off topic but here goes anyway. First off I own a
89 f150 4x4 I6 300 4-sp and this is a great truck, however about four
years ago when my job had me working(living) in Rio Rancho (Intel
Site)New Mexico I would drive different makes of 4x4 rental vehicles
including a Ford Explorer, Toyota 4runner and a ch**y Blazer. I would
take these vehicles off road every chance I got, the ford had the best
power, the Toyota's suspension seemed to handle the terrain the best,
but the ch**y had the best overall performance. I expect to be flamed
for this so flame on!!!





The Toyota seem to handle better do to the lack of weight...ie..no iron
block V-8 under the hood! While the Chevy independent suspension my ride
better than the the twin I beam(what doesn't) its is not as durable! No
flaming here just given an opinion
Chris
94 lightning #381
NLO #381
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:47:04 -0800
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Before I joined this list I had never heard of a lightning, Now I see
them or wanna be lightnings all the time. I now know what my next truck
will be! I think I heard that the new(99) Lightnings will be
supercharged, is this true?

ES

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> From:Garr&Pam [SMTP:garrpam netgsi.com]
> Sent:Friday, March 19, 1999 1:21 PM
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>
> this might be slightly off topic but here goes anyway. First off I own
> a
> 89 f150 4x4 I6 300 4-sp and this is a great truck, however about four
> years ago when my job had me working(living) in Rio Rancho (Intel
> Site)New Mexico I would drive different makes of 4x4 rental vehicles
> including a Ford Explorer, Toyota 4runner and a ch**y Blazer. I would
> take these vehicles off road every chance I got, the ford had the best
> power, the Toyota's suspension seemed to handle the terrain the best,
> but the ch**y had the best overall performance. I expect to be flamed
> for this so flame on!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> The Toyota seem to handle better do to the lack of weight...ie..no
> iron
> block V-8 under the hood! While the Chevy independent suspension my
> ride
> better than the the twin I beam(what doesn't) its is not as durable!
> No
> flaming here just given an opinion
> Chris
> 94 lightning #381
> NLO #381
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:59:13 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Green Sales Co.

Amen to Tracy Jones letter about Green Sales in Cincinnati, Ohio! I will
add though that the reason they get so "pissy" about looking up parts is
because of the use of their 800 number. The Toll free 800 line was set up
for people who know what they want, meaning the PART NUMBER. If you have
the number they will give you pricing and availability. If they have to
research and find the part number for you then your supposed to use the
direct line.

I have used Green's for some items that can't be found anywhere, but I have
paid the big bucks! If they have a huge quantity on hand then you might get
a fair price. If they only have one left, then Ohhh Boyyy!! Set down!!!

Always try the Ford dealer first, Ford still has many 60's & 70's Truck
parts still available! If not ask us here on the FTE, many of us members
still have source's. Autokrafters is a very good source also, as are the
many Ford swap meets. Any Obsolete Ford Parts Vendor is going to ask the
big bucks, but Green's will defiantly have your wallet gasping for air!!
GOOD LUCK!!

Green Sales company numbers are:
1-800-543-4959 (know your part number!)
1-513-731-3304 (for research and other questions)

Dan Herrmann
1964 F-100 Custom Cab
1966 F-100 Custom Cab
1969 F-100 Ranger
1975 F-150 Explorer
1979 F-150 Ranger XLT
1992 F-150 Custom Daily Driver
1992 Tempo GL wife's car

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:09:03 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Before I joined this list I had never heard of a lightning, Now I see
them or wanna be lightnings all the time. I now know what my next truck
will be! I think I heard that the new(99) Lightnings will be
supercharged, is this true?

Yep they are due out soon, and they will be supercharged making 360hp
and 440 ft lbs of torque...Its just a supercharged 5.4L! I myself prefer
the original Lightning...lots of aftermarket support and LOTS of Torque
across the entire band, the new ones are going to be hard to
modify...not that they are not nice I just prefer the original!
Good Luck
If you get one you should join the NLOC and Lightning list!
Chris
94 Lightning #381
NLOC #238
If on eof these big block guys drove a Lightning then they would have
second thoughts about having all that excess weight in the front of
there trucks... HEHE
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:22:09 -0800
From: "Brandt, Chris"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Been wondering what Ford did chassis wise to make the Lightnings handle so
well. Anybody want to enlighten the uninformed masses. I would love to
duplicate the package using a 78 or 79 short wide...... The performance of
the lightning with the looks and durability of a real Ford would be pretty
great. Horsepower is easy to find, brakes can be upgraded to the point of
absurdity, but good handling without being too low or giving up to much load
capacity is tough to do.

Chris Brandt
78 F250 Lariat (Snow Fighter... )
88 BMW M5 (good at everthing the truck isn't)

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>
> Before I joined this list I had never heard of a lightning, Now I see
> them or wanna be lightnings all the time. I now know what my next truck
> will be! I think I heard that the new(99) Lightnings will be
> supercharged, is this true?
>
> Yep they are due out soon, and they will be supercharged making 360hp
> and 440 ft lbs of torque...Its just a supercharged 5.4L! I myself prefer
> the original Lightning...lots of aftermarket support and LOTS of Torque
> across the entire band, the new ones are going to be hard to
> modify...not that they are not nice I just prefer the original!
> Good Luck
> If you get one you should join the NLOC and Lightning list!
> Chris
> 94 Lightning #381
> NLOC #238
> If on eof these big block guys drove a Lightning then they would have
> second thoughts about having all that excess weight in the front of
> there trucks... HEHE
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:03:47 PST
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square

Since I bought my 73 F100 I've wanted to put in a 79 grill. I have
always liked the look of the 79 with the square headlights, but a good
79 grill is very hard to find. I found a complete 78 grill (in a dead
U-Haul) but it has round headlights and I want the square ones. I've
heard of several people changing the round to the square. I obviously
would have to change the bulb and the trim around the lights, but my
question is, do I have to change the bracket that the bulb mounts to?
Is it different for the square bulb or can I make the round one work?

Thanks

Marty
73 F100 390
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:24:53 -0600
From: Timothy Lewis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new guy

Hello, everybody! I'm new to the list. I've got a 66 F100, short
bed(step side), 300/6, 2wd. I was wondering if six cyl. parts are more
expensive than V8? The truck has been my fathers since mid 70's, but
since he gave it to me a couple years ago I've never owned a ford
(sorry). Thanks, Spaz.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:34:37 PST
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - turn signals don't cancel

I have a 73 F100 with an aftermarket steering wheel. I always have to
shut them off after I turn, it's not that tough, but every now and then
I forget until I'm a few miles down the road (makes me feel kinda dumb).

Would it have to do with the switch in the column? Or is there
something on the back of the steering wheel that cancels the signals?
Could the adapter be missing something? I bought the pickup with this
wheel in it so I don't know if it was this way before the steering wheel
was changed.

I really appreciate any suggestions or things I can check to get this
fixed.

Marty Colman
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:56:05 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap & Bronco codes

Thanks for your message at 01:16 PM 3/19/99 -0800, MC. Your message was:
>just bought an Econoline van with a 300 6 cyl. and he was asking if a
>302 could be swapped in. I don't think it will work, but I told him I
>would ask anyway. How about a 351w? Probably not enough room in the
>engine compartment, but would it bolt to the tranny?

I'm not a technical wizard on this, but I had a '71 Econoline with a 302
and it was a nice fit. I believe it will bolt right up to the tranny
that's on the 300, also.


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:49:36 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square

Hey Marty!

Very simple swap-- and I'll even do you one better-- My buddy loves the
look of the round headlights instead of the square ones, Should you wanna
trade parts, we got ourselves a deal! 8-)

The only thing you have to change is the metal recieving cups that the
headlights mount to-- the headlight brackets (that bolt directly to core
support) are the same-- the cups (square ones) can still be bought at ford
brand new. Obviously we'd have to swap plastic headlight doors as well.

Any questions you can e-mail privately!

Tony
tony pscico.com
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At 02:03 PM 3/19/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Since I bought my 73 F100 I've wanted to put in a 79 grill. I have
>always liked the look of the 79 with the square headlights, but a good
>79 grill is very hard to find. I found a complete 78 grill (in a dead
>U-Haul) but it has round headlights and I want the square ones. I've
>heard of several people changing the round to the square. I obviously
>would have to change the bulb and the trim around the lights, but my
>question is, do I have to change the bracket that the bulb mounts to?
>Is it different for the square bulb or can I make the round one work?
>
>Thanks
>
>Marty
>73 F100 390

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:58:22 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square

Ohhh! BTW (by the way)

Should you go get the grill off the uhaul, there are some differences in
the core supports between 73-77 & 78-79 that need to be dealt with-- See if
you can take the core support with you!!! it'll save a HUGE headache if you
can, if you can't, make sure you take the headlight brackets that bolt to
the core support because you'll need to use them (and drill new holes in
your core you have now) in order to line up the headlights. Another issue
is what radiator do you have in your 73? the radiator openings are smaller
on the '73-77's and you'll need the spacer plate that goes in the core
opening (if the uhaul has a standard size radiator which it may not) that
is still attached to the core. I've done this swap-- TWICE!!! 8-)

Tony
tony pscico.com
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>>Since I bought my 73 F100 I've wanted to put in a 79 grill. I have
>>always liked the look of the 79 with the square headlights, but a good
>>79 grill is very hard to find. I found a complete 78 grill (in a dead
>>U-Haul) but it has round headlights and I want the square ones. I've
>>heard of several people changing the round to the square. I obviously
>>would have to change the bulb and the trim around the lights, but my
>>question is, do I have to change the bracket that the bulb mounts to?
>>Is it different for the square bulb or can I make the round one work?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Marty
>>73 F100 390
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:45:39 EST
From: Rollie H Hunt
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Green Sales Co.

I have been to all of the dealerships in my area and they don't stock or
sale any parts that old , (60's - 70's). I suppose you did mean dealers
of new cars and trucks ! Is this something new or something they can
choose to or not to do ? I would prefer to buy a part from the dealer if
I could . Give some more info on how to find a dealer that does this .
Thanks
R.H.Hunt ,King , N.C.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:45:39 EST
From: Rollie H Hunt
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Green Sales Co.

I have been to all of the dealerships in my area and they don't stock or
sale any parts that old , (60's - 70's). I suppose you did mean dealers
of new cars and trucks ! Is this something new or something they can
choose to or not to do ? I would prefer to buy a part from the dealer if
I could . Give some more info on how to find a dealer that does this .
Thanks
R.H.Hunt ,King , N.C.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:05:21 EST
From: Rollie H Hunt
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square

Hi Marty ! I like that grill also ,but I have to tell you that this grill
first appeared in 1978 . There were two different headlamps offered with
this grill in 78 . The custom trimmed truck came with round headlamps and
the higher level models came with rectangular headlamps that year . Then
in 1979 , all models were fitted with rectangular headlamps . Sorry , I
cant help with your swap though .
R.H.Hunt

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:05:21 EST
From: Rollie H Hunt
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - changing round headlights to square

Hi Marty ! I like that grill also ,but I have to tell you that this grill
first appeared in 1978 . There were two different headlamps offered with
this grill in 78 . The custom trimmed truck came with round headlamps and
the higher level models came with rectangular headlamps that year . Then
in 1979 , all models were fitted with rectangular headlamps . Sorry , I
cant help with your swap though .
R.H.Hunt

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:58:35 -0800
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Transmission Gear Ratios

Hi All, Can anyone provide the gear ratios on the Ford 3.03 3-speed, and the
Warner T-18 4-speed?? Also..I have a shot at a rebuilt/guaranteed T-18 Long
Tail for 600. Is this a GOOD deal??
Reason I'm asking is because I'm running a 3.03 with a 2.75 rear end and
it's a little slow off the line (up the boat ramp) HeeHee ;^)) The guy with
the T-18 says it'll bolt right in and all I have to do is scrounge a floor
pan for the 4-speed and cut a hole in the transmission hump. The outline is
already stamped in the cab floor. I shoulda asked him about the T-18 before
I went ahead and rebuilt the 3-speed. Oh well.......
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:58:35 -0800
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Transmission Gear Ratios

Hi All, Can anyone provide the gear ratios on the Ford 3.03 3-speed, and the
Warner T-18 4-speed?? Also..I have a shot at a rebuilt/guaranteed T-18 Long
Tail for 600. Is this a GOOD deal??
Reason I'm asking is because I'm running a 3.03 with a 2.75 rear end and
it's a little slow off the line (up the boat ramp) HeeHee ;^)) The guy with
the T-18 says it'll bolt right in and all I have to do is scrounge a floor
pan for the 4-speed and cut a hole in the transmission hump. The outline is
already stamped in the cab floor. I shoulda asked him about the T-18 before
I went ahead and rebuilt the 3-speed. Oh well.......
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"


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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:28:08 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford on ch*y chassis

Eric Sneed wrote:
> however about four
> years ago when my job had me working(living) in Rio Rancho (Intel
> Site)New Mexico I would drive different makes of 4x4 rental vehicles
> including a Ford Explorer, Toyota 4runner and a ch**y Blazer. I would
> take these vehicles off road every chance I got, the ford had the best
> power, the Toyota's suspension seemed to handle the terrain the best,
> but the ch**y had the best overall performance. I expect to be flamed
> for this so flame on!!!
> ES
>
I won't flame you, BIMHO, be very careful in taking rental vehicles
off road for any reason unless you are specifically sure that either
your insurance or their insurance covers you. In many cases I have
seen such activity is specifically banned by the rental agreements
(even though the vehicle is designed for the task).

Just a word of caution, it might save you a ton of money.

Tim Bowman, CPA
71 F100
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:05:43 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Slipper skirt pistons and purple striped bugs

Hey Stu. How do you know it's a 352 crank? What's the casting number?

I pulled a 360 out of mine, and it didn't have slipper skirts. I think the
casting number on the crank was 2T. When I pulled my 390 apart...uh...I
think it's a 390 :-)...it had slipper skirts, the pistons had 390 stamped
on them, and the crank was 2U.

I'm intrigued and corn-fused!!

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net



>Doctor Ballinger,

>Your welcome! I was hoping a brief and fleeting instant that I had an
>accidental 390 shoved
>in my truck from the factory but *I know*that is not the case......It is a
>352 crank.

>Stu
>Nuke GM!
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:54:45 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Duraspark II problems

In a message dated 3/18/99 11:28:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bigtracks hotmail.com writes:


concerned about valve cover clearance with the factory A/C. Has anyone
advice on this? I have also been considering using the 71 429 block I
have with the 78 460 heads. Is this a good move? >>

I do not know about the A/C clearance, I know 460s use A/C. But I would like
to understand the 429/460 thoughts. There would not be any enhanced A/C
clearance with a 429 since it is a 460 block. The blocks for both engines are
identical, in fact you will likely find 460 cast into the block used for the
429. If you were to use the 78 heads on the 71 block you would get some where
around 8.5:1 Compression Ratio instead of 8:1 with a 78 block. The deck
height is .012" shorter than the 1972 and up blocks. You will have a little
more pep with those heads and the 71 block, whether you build it as a 429 or
460, the only differences are the crank and pistons. The 429 is a remarkable
torque builder, but even with the higher compression would probably not out
pull the 460 with the slightly lower compression. Ether way you can have a
quality running truck. Do you have the heads that came with the 71 429?,
Those are ones that have small combustion chambers and when used with the
right pistons can kick compression into the mid 9s. Good luck
Burt Hill Kennewick Wa 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:36:27 -0800
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351C Tunnel Ram

I apparently have the need for a Tunnel Ram intake manifold for a 4BBL 351
Cleveland. It is funny how these things occur... I don't even own a 351
Cleveland! Yet!
In the interest of preserving our economy (list) and the Planet (used
parts), I'll ask you all if one of you might have such an item. I can get
one new for about $260.00, but if I can find a used one we might both just
come out ahead!-)
If you or a friend have this item and wish to part with it please contact me
off line.
Thankz all
Muel
79 Bronco



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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:52:36 -0600
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Slipper skirt pistons and purple striped bugs

At 08:05 PM 3/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey Stu. How do you know it's a 352 crank? What's the casting number?
>

Drew,

I assume it is a 352 crank (I shall not go into lessons on making
assumptions) because the engine is original to the truck (never opened up
either) and Ford never offered 390's as an option on 4x4's in 1971 - only....


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