61-79-list-digest Friday, February 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 064



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Thanks Ted re: '65 engine/tranny question (NMI)
RE: FTE 61-79 - Steeromg Col Rebuild
FTE 61-79 - emissions
RE: FTE 61-79 - ignorance and the driveshaft
FTE 61-79 - Adding Cruise Control - Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steeromg Col Rebuild
Re: FTE 61-79 - C6 Kick down
FTE 61-79 - cable push to kickdown C6
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re New list member/Front end looseness
Re: FTE 61-79 - C6 Kick down
FTE 61-79 - Steering Column Parts
FTE 61-79 - Philosophy and the Thinking Battery
FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Removal
FTE 61-79 - beer mapping
FTE 61-79 - Re: Air Conditioning in Winter
Re: FTE 61-79 - PoWeR SteeRing! ACK!
RE: FTE 61-79 - PoWeR SteeRing! ACK!
FTE 61-79 - Cyber Etiquette
FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Removal
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Air Conditioning in Winter
RE: FTE 61-79 - PoWeR SteeRing! ACK!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Column Parts
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re. Emissions and major model modifications
FTE 61-79 - Singing C-6 Trans
FTE 61-79 - Re: New list member/Front end looseness
Re: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Removal
FTE 61-79 - east texas trucks
FTE 61-79 - 70's model 1 ton trannys
FTE 61-79 - '66 front brake conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - '66 front brake conversion
FTE 61-79 - C-4 strength question
FTE 61-79 - Fwd: could you forward this
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re. Emissions and major model modifications
FTE 61-79 - Virginia shopping
FTE 61-79 - Re: NC Emission Testing
Re: FTE 61-79 - 70's model 1 ton trannys

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:10:29 -0500
From: "Harvey, Blaine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thanks Ted re: '65 engine/tranny question (NMI)

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:06:17 -0500
From: "John MacNamara"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Steeromg Col Rebuild

Os: So it looks like you went to a large bearing that just fits in the tube
and eliminated the plastic piece. How will you keep water and dust, etc off
the bearing. i assume that the cap's function was to keep the bearing
clean.

Thanks
John MacNamara

805 577 2536 wk
805 577 2768 fx
805 526 3464 hm
ESN 495-2536
jmacnam nortelnetworks.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From:luxjo thecore.com [SMTP:luxjo thecore.com]
> Sent:Wednesday, February 24, 1999 6:03 PM
> To:61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 61-79 - Steeromg Col Rebuild
>
> O'Connor wrote:
> >
> > On bearings,
> > Most medium to large cities have bearing houses.
>
> I got my lower bearing in tonight. It is a double sealed roller bearing
> with a 2-1/8 flange OD an a .75 ID. It fits perfect in the tube and the
> ID is perfect also. I tacked the flange part of bearing through the 3
> small holes on lower end of col. tube. The three small holes are what
> the lower plastic bearing housing used to click into. Play is almost
> nill now, probably clear up 10 degress of steering play.
>
> OX
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:07:55 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - emissions

>> less than fully functional Congress
>>She's just now getting over my theory that since a car battery has many
of the same elements as a human brain, it may possibly be as capable of
intelligent thought as many human beings are...

Diehard for Congress! Everstart for Senate! If it can outperform a middle
school student, serving in Congress should be a no brainer. I guess serving
in Congress already is a no brainer...............

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:16:21 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - ignorance and the driveshaft

Another option is to carefully drop the driveshaft, and grease them while
its out. Some driveshafts dont have greaseable u-joints. While its out,
you can check the nut tightness on the rear end yoke going into the
rearend.....


>>>>So, everybody go out,
>>grease your driveshafts while you are thinking about it.

I tried doing mine the other day but couldn't get the fitting into the
little space...
Any suggestions, anyone?

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:23:08 -0600
From: "John R. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Adding Cruise Control - Question

Anybody put an aftermarket cruise control on a '67 F100 or something
similar. I bought one, installed it, can't get it to work. Have talked to
the techs at the manufacturer about six times. Wiring all checks out but it
just doesn't work - even tried a new servo. Just checking to see if anyone
has any experience.



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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:27:02 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steeromg Col Rebuild

John MacNamara wrote:
>
> Os: So it looks like you went to a large bearing that just fits in the tube
> and eliminated the plastic piece. How will you keep water and dust, etc off
> the bearing.

The bearing is double sealed, so it seals itself from anything except
maybe being submeged.

> i assume that the cap's function was to keep the bearing clean.

Didn't look like it. The three plastic clips that hold the plastic
housing in the lower end of tube are not water/dirt proof and let crap
inside the tube. The inner hole on plastic housing is much larger than
the shaft, letting anything right past it into the bearing.
the plastic housing itself was much smaller than the tube, allowing it
to move back and forth 1/16. Maybe they are tighter when new???
There really is nothing to keep crap out of the bearing or tube. It
really is a horrible design for such an important component, IMHO.

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:25:02 -0600
From: sjacobi fd9ns01.okladot.state.ok.us
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C6 Kick down

I found a kickdown cable for my 460 and C-6 tranny from Lokar Products.
They can be reached by e-mailing skip lokar.com. They returned the
following information:

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks for inquiring about Lokar products. Yes, we have kickdown kits for the
Ford C-6 transmissions.


The part number is KD-20C6HT. It can be ordered from us direct, or you can
purchase it through one of our suppliers. Our suggested retail price is
$58.95.


In addition, you might want to purchase our carburetor bracket and return
spring kit. It mounts our kickdowns and our throttle cables. It retails for
$21.95.


If you are interested in purchasing these items, you need to just give us a
call at 423-966-2269 and we will be happy to assist you. We can also direct
you to a supplier in your area. You can also send us an e-mail, along with a
form of payment, i.e., C.O.D. cash, or a charge card along with expiration
date.
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I have not purchased a cable yet, so I can not attest to the quality,
but right now I am enjoying some manual shifting when I get into the
throttle.

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:34:37 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - cable push to kickdown C6

Regarding trying to kickdown a C6 with a cable, I wrote the following:

>>something? The reason I ask is that the Ford setup is a "push" deal where
>>the rod pushes down towards the engine. You can't get a cable to push.
>>

And here are some of the responses from our brain trust:
>
>Ok, so then how does one close a manual choke?
>
>What about my lawnmower throttle cable????
>
>On the contrary, so long as the cable is secured proberly it can push. My
>F-600 has a cable operated PTO. Pull to set, push to disengage. No return
>springs or anything.
>

In every case cited, these "cables" are really glorified rods. They are
single strand, not very flexible, and have a very tight metal casing made
of steel wrapped around them. Which means that the rod is prevented from
bending when pushing by the case. It also means they fit really TIGHT and
when you let go of the knob, they stay right where they are. Now ask
yourself, what is going to happen when you attach that sort of "cable" to
the throttle and then to the trans and mash the pedal to the floor to get a
kickdown? The throttle is going to STAY there and you are going to run off
in a ditch.

The bottom line is that sort of "cable" is not suitable for use as a trans
kickdown cable. The type cable you need for this has a very loose fitting
case and the cable itself is a multi-stranded, flexible type. You will not
get one of those to push.

I guess I walked into this by not being more specific but let's not get
this poor guy into an accident by telling him he can hook up a choke-type
cable and push his kickdown lever with it.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:01:02 -0600
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re New list member/Front end looseness

If you're not talking about 4w I have a 74 1 ton with TIB.

At 07:35 PM 2/24/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/24/99 2:17:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>SWeatherby uswest.net writes:
>
>
> axle. >>
>
>Not all, as I recall some 80-84??? model F-350s had a Dana 50 TTB.
>
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:39:35 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C6 Kick down

Does this line bother anyone else ?

>you to a supplier in your area. You can also send us an e-mail, along with a
>form of payment, i.e., C.O.D. cash, or a charge card along with expiration
>date.
>

Wait, lemme attach some cash ... or a COD ... to this email!


Sorry, just found some humor in it .....


Just my 2cents

wish

Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html
'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
'96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:52:26 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Column Parts

Hey Ox,

Do you have bearing number????? Even if we can't get that brand, maybe we can
cross-reference it....

CJ
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:52:39 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Philosophy and the Thinking Battery

Hey Stu,

I've been working on Daver to get back to real engines, but he's still holding
out for that M-Block stuff....gimme another few months and see what he says
after this 428CJ fires up....Dove heads, Blue Thunder Police Interceptor
intake....etc....I'll have to lock up these spare FE blocks I have laying
around....

CJ
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:12:06 PST
From: "Dane Berthelsen"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Removal

How do I remove the radius arm on my 77 F150 4wd ? The steering is
pretty loose on my truck, and I want to replace the C bushings, but I
can only get the front part of the radius arm off. The radius arm itself
is stuck between the front axel and the rear end of the radius arm,
where it's attached to the frame. I believe I need to push the axel
forward and the arm should fall out by itself (and I need to catch it so
it does not tear the brake lines) - but how do I do that with simple
tools. Actually I tried to knock it out with a hammer, but it didn't
move (maybe I didn't knock hard enough?). Once I get it off, will the
axel move backwards because it no longer is supported by the radius arm,
and will I then have even more problems getting the radius arm back on
again ?

Thanks,
Dane





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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:30:44 PST
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - beer mapping

> THREE SIX-PACKS? It's about 30 miles from FW to Dallas, at 60mph, you
will
> need to pound more than one beer every 2 minutes.
Hell, maybe I'm getting
> old, but count me OUT.
Dont you guys have backroads there??????
Its much more fun to make the length of the trip match the quantity of
refreshments available...
....unless of course your truck rides so rough that you cant keep the
bottles from breaking in the cooler..... :-(



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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:01:31 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Air Conditioning in Winter

On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Jeremy Stiffler wrote:
>
> It depends on where you are in winter as to how bad you need air
> conditioning. Down here in Texas the butterflys are starting to roam about
> and the flowers and starting to come into bloom. It's about to start
> getting hot again down here. But I can see where yall up in Canada and the
> north don't find much need for air conditioning in the winter. :)

Here in Northern California winter is still in full swing, but I would
still like my air conditioner to be working. Reason is, when anybody
rides in my truck and it is raining out, unless I open the back window
and run the fan on full blast, the windows all fog up. With this truck,
the AC is supposed to run to help dry the air when defrosting but with
no Freon it doesn't work so well...anybody know some backyard tricks to
finding the leaks so I can go have it charged?

Birken
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:26:59 -0500
From: Brad Smith
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - PoWeR SteeRing! ACK!

What you need is a smaller pulley... It will actually turn faster at lower
engine speeds. There are actually several pulleys available under the same
part number, with a letter attatched on the end. I think the A pulley is
the smallest one. That is the one I am running on my truck... Just
remember to bleed the system when you do your pump work, or you'll run into
some stiff driving!

The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
not...
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:43:35 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - PoWeR SteeRing! ACK!

Dumb question.... How do you bleed the power steering? Thanks, Rick


What you need is a smaller pulley... It will actually turn faster at lower
engine speeds. There are actually several pulleys available under the same
part number, with a letter attatched on the end. I think the A pulley is
the smallest one. That is the one I am running on my truck... Just
remember to bleed the system when you do your pump work, or you'll run into
some stiff driving!

The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
not...
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:03:41 -0500
From: "MICHAEL ROGERS"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cyber Etiquette

I am relatively new to the digest and have found it to be interesting =
and informative. Thanks to those who maintain it and those who =
participate. I previously posted two messages with their body all in =
CAPS. I was informed by one of our fellow ford enthusiasts that posting in
all CAPS is bad ju-ju. I tend to find the shift key very annoying and time
consuming, given my level of typing expertise. So, If any of you found my
posture in the previously mentioned messages offensive or rude, I apologize.
I have received replies to both my leaf spring and power steering conversion
concerns, once again thanks to those who responded. That's all for now.
Look forward to future interesting and informative reading.

Mike
65 F-100 Custom Cab
Norfolk, VA


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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:09:22 -0600
From: sjacobi fd9ns01.okladot.state.ok.us
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Removal

"Dane Berthelsen" on 02-25-99 12:12:06 PM
wrote:

How do I remove the radius arm on my 77 F150 4wd ? The steering is
pretty loose on my truck, and I want to replace the C bushings, but I
can only get the front part of the radius arm off. The radius arm itself
is stuck between the front axel and the rear end of the radius arm,
where it's attached to the frame. I believe I need to push the axel
forward and the arm should fall out by itself (and I need to catch it so
it does not tear the brake lines) - but how do I do that with simple
tools. Actually I tried to knock it out with a hammer, but it didn't
move (maybe I didn't knock hard enough?). Once I get it off, will the
axel move backwards because it no longer is supported by the radius arm,
and will I then have even more problems getting the radius arm back on
again ?

Thanks,
Dane


If i recall correctly, here's my experience with my 2 wd '67 pickup

with Twin I beams:



It took me about 3 hours to replace mine with the hinderance

of no air tools and no speedy jacks; just a little 3 ton hydraulic jack.

On the passenger side, the removal is fairly easy, remove the wheel, remove

the rear radius arm nut. On mine there was enough play to move the whole

assembly forward to replace the bushings. Be careful of the brake lines!

On the drivers side, the right side I beam is in the way which prevented me

from moving the assembly forward enough to clear the radius arm mount which

necessitated removal of the radius arm from the I beam too. I used

polyurethane bushings which I highly recommend.



Steve


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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:02:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Air Conditioning in Winter

Birken asks:
>
> Here in Northern California winter is still in full swing, but I would

Naw, winter left us a few weeks back. Remember those 20 and 30 degree
mornings? That was winter. Those showers out there now? Spring :-)

> still like my air conditioner to be working. Reason is, when anybody
> rides in my truck and it is raining out, unless I open the back window
> and run the fan on full blast, the windows all fog up. With this truck,
> the AC is supposed to run to help dry the air when defrosting but with
> no Freon it doesn't work so well...anybody know some backyard tricks to
> finding the leaks so I can go have it charged?

I suppose the only backyard trick available now is to look for oil
around the connections. The oil travels around the system disolved
in the freon, any freon leak brings oil with it. Although, if your
system has been discharged for a long time, and your AC has been
running, you may have other problems.

Now, what year did FoMoCo start running the AC in the defrost position?
I suspect late '70s, but that is just a guess. I picked up an AC retrofit
kit (pick'n'pull) last fall for my 70 F250, I'm pretty sure it doesn't
do this (under-dash factory/dealer retro unit).
- --
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:11:29 -0500
From: Brad Smith
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - PoWeR SteeRing! ACK!

At 12:43 PM 2/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Dumb question.... How do you bleed the power steering? Thanks, Rick
>
>
>What you need is a smaller pulley... It will actually turn faster at lower
>engine speeds. There are actually several pulleys available under the same
>part number, with a letter attatched on the end. I think the A pulley is
>the smallest one. That is the one I am running on my truck... Just
>remember to bleed the system when you do your pump work, or you'll run into
>some stiff driving!
>
>The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
>not...
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>
Just fill up the reservoir, and with the vehicle running turn the wheel
left and right, but don't hold it on the stops for more than a few seconds.
Leave the cap on while you are turning the wheel or you will get fluid
everywhere. Just keep an eye on the level and do it over and over, then
keep an eye on the level for several days... pretty simple actually...

The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
not...
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:18:07 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Column Parts

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey Ox,
>
> Do you have bearing number????? Even if we can't get that brand, maybe we can
> cross-reference it....
>

Lower bearing I used

COMPANY: McMaster-Carr
New Brunswick, NJ.08903
Phn: 732-329-3200

BEARING: Double Sealed flange bearing
PN 6384K371
ID- .75"
OD- 2"
Thickness-9/16" (overall)
Flange OD- 2-1/8
Flange thickness- 1/16
Dynamic Load cap- 672 lbs.
Price- 10.13$


I didn't look to see if there was a number on the bearing. Maybe
these guys can tell you who they get it from. They do mail order also.


OX
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:25:39 -0700
From: johnmicki oldwest.net (John Rollf)
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re. Emissions and major model modifications

The VIN number is stamped right into the frame on my truck. It is on the
passenger side frame rail, top side in the engine compartment

John Rollf johnmicki oldwest.net
1972 F-250 2wd, FE 360

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David Wadson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 12:18 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re. Emissions and major model modifications
>
>
> > If you wanted an older vehicle that had no emission stuff, how hard
> >> would really it be to change the VIN number of your truck. Don't even
> >> tamper with the VIN tag itself...swap the whole cab from an
> older >truck.
> >
> >Technically, it goes by the frame.
>
> By frame I take it that constitutes the two side rails and the few
> crossmembers holding them together? I went over mine with a a grinder and
> wire brush removing rust while rebuilding my truck (should have got a
> sandblaster...) and I didn't see any identification numbers on the frame
> itself.
>
> >> The only piece that didn't come off my '78 F100 was the cab - I could
> >> easily buy a beater '71 with a good cab, drop the cab and VIN
> number onto
> >> my 78 and register it as the 71. Heck, it wouldn't have to be an
> >> F100...didn't the F150's have looser emission regulations when
> they first
> >> came out?
> >
> >Quiet!!! :-), Don't want to give away all our secrets.
>
> I'd be shooting myself in the foot - the only way we can get half decent
> body parts is to head down south into the US for those trucks that are
> scrapped because they don't meet emissions. If everyone down there avoided
> the emissions headaches by swapping their trucks onto older
> frames, we'd be
> cutting off our supply!
>
>
>
> David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
> "PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4
>
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:44:10 -0700
From: johnmicki oldwest.net (John Rollf)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Singing C-6 Trans

Recently the C-6 Transmission in my truck (1972 F-250, FE 360) has started
get hi pitched "howling" or "whaling" sounds. The sounds are not constant.
They last for about 30 seconds to a minute and then go away. Increasing or
decreasing speed, unless I come to a stop, doesn't effect the noise much.
Shifting gears doesn't affect it either. I changed the fluid and filter.
The fluid I drained was in perfect condition, it was bright and clear with
no smell of being burnt, and there was no material in the tranny pan. The
sounds seem to happen more frequently and are louder when it is cold out
side (i.e. around freezing), although it still occurs when the Truck and air
temp are warm. The transmission has about 40,000 miles on it.

Any suggestions?

John Rollf
1972 F-250, 2wd, FE-360

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:35:24 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: New list member/Front end looseness

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, "sam weatherby" wrote:
>
> I prefer the solid axle, but the TTB wasn't that bad.
> At least it wasn't a car derived setup like they use now.
> I like trucks and cars. for different resons, with different expectations.
> If someone told me my truck rides like a car I would take offense!

I used to have a truck that rode like a car (4 wheel coil sprung Ch%,
you know the type). Now I have this $^! F-250 that rides more like a
dump truck. The other day I actually got whip lash from hitting a bump,
because my head was in the wrong position.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you. It sure is nice to drive a Ford
EVERY DAY. I they made a truck that rode like a Cadillac, but you could
still throw thousands of pounds of stuff in it, I would buy it. (If I
had money)

Birken
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:52:52 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Removal

Dane Berthelsen wrote:
>
> How do I remove the radius arm on my 77 F150 4wd ?

1. Remove one end of track bar
2. Remove lower end of front shocks.
3. Drop suspension down to full droop (jack stands on frame), then jack
up just enough to put light pressure on axle.
4. Remove 2 small bolts 9on each side) holding lower spring pad to
radius arm.
5. Let axle down, let springs/shocks dangle.(may need to disconnect
driveshaft)
6. Remove nut on rear of radius arm
7. Remove 4 bolts on front of radius arm.

OX




The steering is
> pretty loose on my truck, and I want to replace the C bushings, but I
> can only get the front part of the radius arm off. The radius arm itself
> is stuck between the front axel and the rear end of the radius arm,
> where it's attached to the frame. I believe I need to push the axel
> forward and the arm should fall out by itself (and I need to catch it so
> it does not tear the brake lines) - but how do I do that with simple
> tools. Actually I tried to knock it out with a hammer, but it didn't
> move (maybe I didn't knock hard enough?). Once I get it off, will the
> axel move backwards because it no longer is supported by the radius arm,
> and will I then have even more problems getting the radius arm back on
> again ?
>
> Thanks,
> Dane
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:03:52 -0600
From: Michael Ray Jones
Subject: FTE 61-79 - east texas trucks

Yah. I was living there when they passed the "no drinking and driving"
law, effectively eliminating the popular East Texas sport of driving
around the back roads in your pickup truck while drinking beer and
tossing the empties into the bed around the window pillar :).

Probably oughta add a few more smileys, since the above is a fond
tweak rather than a slam. :0 :0


Hey, from here in real live East Texas, I want you to know I RESEMBLE
THAT REMARK!

HICCUP!!

M JONES
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:10:04 -0500
From: Brad Smith
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 70's model 1 ton trannys

Hi, I've got a 78 F150 that I bouht with a Borg-Warner 4 speed in it. Th
guy told me that the tranny came out of a one ton truck, and I was
wondering if anyone out there knows what specific tranny this was. I am
planning on replacing bearings, seals and what not in the thing, but I need
to know what I am looking for. I've got it bolted up to a 429 if that
helps you to figure it out what tranny it is.... Any help would be
appreciated.

The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
not...
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:12:49 -0600
From: "Jack Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '66 front brake conversion

i've been reading the archives about the front brake conversion and it talks
about a '65 and not a '66 are they the same???
also am thinking about going to a C6 tranny if i can't get the 3 speed to
quit shaking the whole truck changed everything but the flywheel
which is next. question is what is involved with the swap outside of the
shifting linkage???

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:54:08 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '66 front brake conversion

At 09:12 PM 2/25/99 -0600, you wrote:
>i've been reading the archives about the front brake conversion and it talks
>about a '65 and not a '66 are they the same???
> also am thinking about going to a C6 tranny if i can't get the 3 speed to
>quit shaking the whole truck changed everything but the flywheel
>which is next. question is what is involved with the swap outside of the
>shifting linkage???
>

They are the same. There's a good 67-72 disc brake conversion
guide in the tech article sectio of the web site with a handy
65-66 supplement.

Ken Payne

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:29:31 -0800 (PST)
From: JP Morgon
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C-4 strength question

How much will a rebuilt stock C-4 with stand? I finnaly decided on a
351W that I expect to produce in the range of 375-400hp with a 2500
stall.

Thanks



_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:23:05 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: could you forward this

>>From wm_69 yahoo.com Thu Feb 25 23:16:56 1999
>Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:17:34 -0800 (PST)
>From: Scott
>Subject: could you forward this
>To: Ken Payne
>
>Hey Ken, could you forward this to the proper list for me for a
>friend? And if you could have them send repies to wm_69 yahoo.com
>Scott
>"i purchased a 1970 ford econoline that the factory sent out to Travel
>Equipment Corp. to be converted into an RV. i can't seem to find any
>information on this particular vehicle. any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks"
>
>

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:32:29 EST
From: Clemstang1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re. Emissions and major model modifications

While I was sandblasting my frame on my 73 I found the identification numbers
on the passenger side on the upper portion of the frame under the cab section.
Come to find out they didn't match my VIN number on my door! The owner that
had the truck before me had another door put on the truck when he painted it
and didn't change the VIN tag. Never had any trouble getting tags for it. Also
change my door off of my other 79 with a 75 door that I had. The 75 didn't
have to have a cat and had a lesser emission reading (hated to cut a $200
exhaust system up) never had a problem passing or getting tag's for it.

Jeff
73 F-150 (pro-street) 460
79 F-150 Lariat 460
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:40:39 -0700 (MST)
From: dsy_cby webtv.net (Tarry Harper)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Virginia shopping

I am relocating to Virginia in August and was wondering if anyone knows
of any good resto parts stores, machine shops, and clubs there are in
the Newport News-Williamsburg area.

Tarry

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:58:11 -0500
From: "HARLEY A PUTNAM"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: NC Emission Testing

> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:06:28 -0500
>From: Brad Smith
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re. Emissions and major model modifications

>I don't know what state you are from, but here in NC they require
emmissions inspections on all vehicles since 77. I have a 78 F-150 that I
have put a hopped up 429 P.I. in, so needless to say I have a terrible time....


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