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61-79-list-digest Saturday, January 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 004 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - surging FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Highboy Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:RE: '67 F100 FTE 61-79 - RE: '67 F100 FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE: 61-79 - Steering Shaft Specs FTE 61-79 - C6 2-3 shuft problems FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 FTE 61-79 - 1977 Ford Truck Brochures Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Highboy Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 FTE 61-79 - gasoline filler hose FTE 61-79 - tailgates FTE 61-79 - door seals Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates FTE 61-79 - carburator swap RE: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates RE: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift FTE 61-79 - Saddle tank on F-100 4X4? Re: FTE 61-79 - Saddle tank on F-100 4X4? Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates FTE 61-79 - Ful time - ish... RE: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift FTE 61-79 - Need 4.10 or 4.11 rear diff for '71 F100 Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap Re: FTE 61-79 - 427 Re: FTE 61-79 - Need 4.10 or 4.11 rear diff for '71 F100 Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 07:32:16 -0600 (CST) From: bkirking Subject: FTE 61-79 - surging >> >every couple of >weeks -- usually when the gastank gets low -- the truck either starts >jerking, or dying at stopsigns, or both. Then the problem disappears, >usually after I stop and restart it. Keep an eye on your fuel pump. Sometimes, when fuel pumps are getting close to failing, the poor engine performance occurs when the gas tank is near empty. When the tank is full, the hydrostatic pressure of the gas in the tank provides an additional push to the ailing pump and the engine runs as normal. You can test the pump by disconnecting the gas line at the carb and crank the engine and noting how much fuel volume is pumped. If you test with a full tank and an empty tank and see a noticable difference, you may have found the (a) problem. Bryan Kirking 66 Step Side 352 4 speed Houston, Texas == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:37:05 EST From: TBeeee Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Highboy Burt wrote: used I couldn't resist getting in on this one---I have wondered for a while now where this term "High-Boy" comes from. I have never seen any references to it in any Ford or related publications. Also I have never seen any F-250/350 4x4 which didn't have blocks on the rear. As Don Said: > "As far as I know there was no such thing as a Factory lift. No check box >on the order sheet. No comment on the dealer sticker window. The 4x4 models >were just built to stand higher." --Thom B-- 1967 F-250 4WD 390 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:37:41 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:RE: '67 F100 At 03:27 PM 1/7/99 , you wrote: >thanks bill ! >just timed it with a vac gauge and it's better. That's great, glad to hear it ... >pulling 15-20 but it wavers a little bit at idle. Mine does this to, I've always just chalked it up to an old engine, though it got better after a new timing chain. reading changes >as i increase the throttle (lower than higher at high rpms) >is this normal ? my book says steady reading across the throttle range. > Not sure exactly what you mean here ... when you step on it there should be a decided drop in vaccuum that will partially recover, don't know that I've ever seen it really come back to the same spot, but I don't have mine hooked up to drive on, and haven't for years, so I don't really remember. >should i stay at my old gap of 35 for the plugs or go to the >recommended gap for that year ignition ('75) ? I think '75 is >at 42. > With the higher power ignition system you should be able to get a wider gap, but that depends on what kind of revs you are pulling too, a lot of the newer cars are still coming with 35 gaps even though they have the electronic ignition systems ... I guess I'd stick between 35 and 40 until I got the thing running exactly the way I wanted it to, then I'd worry about playing with things ... since you know it'll run smooth with 35 gap and don't know for sure with 42 ... >thanks again everyone. i'm not there yet but thanks to you i'm No problem, that's what we're all here for right ? :) Laters Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:04:19 -0700 From: John & Iva McKay Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: '67 F100 Bill, Yes the PCV valve is on the passenger side. A hose goes from the valve to a fitting at the rear of the carb riser plate (between the carb and intake manifold). The "mechanic" (this point is debatable) claims it doesn't connect there but at the air cleaner so he plugged the hose off at the carb fitting and told me I needed to install a PCV breather on that side. My Ford book (Chilton's) shows some connected to the air cleaner but some connected to the plate depending on model ( I have a picture of a riser connection for the 300 6 cyl.) They also told me I needed a 4 bbl. because the 2 bbl. was too small for the engine. Everyone together. HUH ??????????????????? If he had any credibility left he lost it here. These guys never pulled a plug while diagnosing a rough running engine. Thanks for the help. John (az67) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:25:45 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Richmond Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE: 61-79 - Steering Shaft Specs Thanks Jeff, hopefully I'll be able to measure the shaft on my truck this weekend if it isn't too cold. I'll let you know what I find out. Scott == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:26:43 -0500 From: am14 Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 2-3 shuft problems John Strauss writes: >> I'll let y'all know how it goes this weekend with the servo. Please do. I'll need to file this away for future reference. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:36:04 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Richmond Subject: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 A while ago I read (I think on this list) that the gear ratios in the NP435 and T-18 are very similar. I have always heard that a T-18 is considered a very strong transmission, and I read in a 4-Wheeler magazine that the NP435 is great too. Could some of you experts give me your opinions on this please. Is there a way of telling the differences between these two trannys just by looking at them? Also, is it true that a T-19 is the same as a T-18, but has a syncro for first gear? Thanks in advance for the info. Scott 71 F100 4X4 79 F350 4X4 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:32:30 -0500 From: adam.hicks Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1977 Ford Truck Brochures If any of you ever use eBay (and I'm not affiliated, but you really should!) There's the following items up for auction: "2 mint condition 1977 Ford pick up dealer brochures. These brochures have 40+ color pictures featuring the full line of models from step sides to crew cabs." It shows some really great photos. This might be handy in solving those model disputes! There's often original shop manuals for any ford truck around posted, and things usually go pretty cheap. I think the high bid on the truck brochures is like 7.00. Just an FYI, Adam (Oh yeah, WWW.EBAY.COM - it's free to sign up, but you can browse without signing up) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 07:54:55 -0800 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Highboy TBeeee > Also I have never seen any F-250/350 > 4x4 which didn't have blocks on the rear. You can also include the F100-150 4x4's They also have the factory block in the rear. - -- Don Grossman duckdon == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:03:16 -0800 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift Let's turn this around a little bit. does someone have a 59-771/2 F250 with out the HiBoy option? A comparison picture would be worth a thousand words. - -- Don Grossman duckdon http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon ICQ# 19575234 99 Contour SE Sport 63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:08:58 -0800 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 Scott Richmond wrote: > A while ago I read (I think on this list) that the gear ratios in the > NP435 and T-18 are very similar. I have always heard that a T-18 is > considered a very strong transmission, and I read in a 4-Wheeler magazine > that the NP435 is great too. Could some of you experts give me your > opinions on this please. Is there a way of telling the differences > between these two trannys just by looking at them? Also, is it true that > a T-19 is the same as a T-18, but has a syncro for first gear? > > Thanks in advance for the info. > > Scott The T19 has a different set or sets of First gears. Higher if I remember right and does have the first gear sync. The dead giveaway is the aluminum shift tower on the NP 435. If you are looking at a pile of them. Both the NP and t 18 were used during the same years but the NP was used for a longer time frame from what I have seen. Both would be great for a swap from a 3 speed but if it is for your 71 make sure you get the 4x4 model with the transfer case if you can. - -- Don Grossman duckdon http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon ICQ# 19575234 99 Contour SE Sport 63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:02:45 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - gasoline filler hose Tim, I tend to get long winded on explanations. It's the teacher in me I guess. Getting your exhaust bend in a parts house is a good idea. JC Whitney and others offer the bends in stainless steel, too. A little more pricey, but that wopuld solve the corrosion problem. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:07:13 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - tailgates Andy, Well, I looked again at my tailgate. It is definitely not a quick release model. The procedure you describe is very similar to the GMs I had. I wonder if it was an option on Fords, possibly part of an XLT or Ranger package or maybe the Camper Specials for those big cabover slide ins. I am considering trying to convert mine to quick release so was looking for responses like yours to help me decide what would be involved and where to look. Thanks for the help. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:11:23 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - door seals Thanks for the warning Jeff. Now I remember you posting that before. My seals were so bad, especially after the door replacement, that I had to do something. Was your six months mostly winter or summer? My part of Texas goes to the opposite extreme from Colorado and might make a difference. Knowing JCW, I'm not going to coumt on it. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:44:21 EST From: JUMPINFORD Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift My Dad has a 75 Hi-Boy. Well at least the frame is a 75, we built it in our garage over a period of 2 years. It has the rear blocks, which I believe are 4 inches high, and good arches up front. With this setup we were able to fit 38.5/15/R15 Gumbo Mudders without any real lift, although we added one extra leaf up front, and trimmed and reformed the front fenders to give more clearance. But dad did a great job here, cuz the things look factory. We also set the bed back 3/4 of an inch, and made all the gaps up front a little wider so when we get out wheelin and the truck flexes, we can rest easy that the body is not destroying itself. If anyone has any questions, I can crawl under this thing abd answer em for ya. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:18:18 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates >>67 - 72 are direct swaps although there are a number of different trim combinations. I believe that the 73-79 will also fit but look strange. Tim Bowman 71 F100 Tim, Thanks for this bit of knowledge. I saw a 74-79 truck yesterday (only saw the side and back) that had 68 trim on the tailgate that had obviously been replaced. I wondered how he did that. It looked strange, too. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:58:36 -0600 From: "Wyly, Bryan K" Subject: FTE 61-79 - carburator swap I have a '65 F100 with a 240 engine and single barrel carb. The carb needs rebuilding, but I was curious if anyone could tell me if there was a double barrel carb that would bolt onto the current manifold...or do I need a new manifold to go this route. I was hoping a double barrel might give it a little more pep, but I didn't know if there would be that much benefit from a 240 engine. Thanks, Bryan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:20:51 -0500 From: TracyJones Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift > ---------- > From: Don Grossman[SMTP:duckdon > Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 11:03 AM > To: 61-79-list > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift > > Let's turn this around a little bit. > > does someone have a 59-771/2 F250 with out the HiBoy option? A comparison > picture would be worth a thousand words. > -- > Don Grossman > FWIW, I've been told by 'someone in the know' that all F250's before '78 are called HiBoys. '78 & '79 are called LowBoys. I've also seen these trucks referenced this way in an aftermarket suspension catalogue, maybe Superlift. Tracy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:43:56 -0700 From: "Michael Connor" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 Gang, Having run both of these trannies in a jeep I can tell you that Don is on the money about the 435 having an aluminum top cover. If the trans is in the vehicle however, you can tell by where reverse is. On the T18, reverse is to the right and UP (forward). NP435's reverse is to the right and DOWN (back). Both trannies are nearly bulletproof, with the NP435 having a slightly slower (6.69:1) first gear than the T18 (6.32:1)... Hope this helps, Uncle Mike Phoenix, AZ. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:51:43 -0700 From: "Michael Connor" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift >FWIW, >I've been told by 'someone in the know' that all F250's before '78 are >called HiBoys. '78 & '79 are called LowBoys. I've also seen these >trucks referenced this way in an aftermarket suspension catalogue, maybe >Superlift. > >Tracy Gang, The Hiboys were manufactured through February of 1977. In March of 77 they began producing the 77 1/2 (Lowboy). These had more of a straight or negative arch front spring and if I recall not much of a rear block at all. These were produced through 79 until the new design change came along in 1980. Hope this helps, Uncle Mike Phoenix, AZ. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:07:49 -0600 From: "Michael Masse" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP435 vs. T-18 About the T19's I recently read an article that said that all of the Ford = T19's had close ratio gear sets (ie, no granny) Apparently the only T19's = that had a low 1st comparable to a T18 or NP435 were the ones used in the = Scout II's. I have no idea of how difficult it would be to swap one of = these in. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:10:38 -0600 From: "James Petty" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates Once my rusted out... it became a quick release..... lol.... >>> John LaGrone 01/08 10:07 AM >>> Andy, Well, I looked again at my tailgate. It is definitely not a quick release model. The procedure you describe is very similar to the GMs I had. I wonder if it was an option on Fords, possibly part of an XLT or Ranger package or maybe the Camper Specials for those big cabover slide ins. I am considering trying to convert mine to quick release so was looking for responses like yours to help me decide what would be involved and where to look. Thanks for the help. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:25:01 -0500 From: TracyJones Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift > ---------- > From: Michael Connor[SMTP:mikec > Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 2:51 PM > To: 61-79-list > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift > > > Gang, > > The Hiboys were manufactured through February of 1977. In March of 77 > they > began producing the 77 1/2 (Lowboy). These had more of a straight or > negative arch > front spring and if I recall not much of a rear block at all. These were > produced through 79 > until the new design change came along in 1980. > > > Hope this helps, > Uncle Mike > Phoenix, AZ. > > > Sounds good to me except the bit about the rear blocks. My '79 has the same rear blocks as my friend's '76. The springs are totally different. The axles appear to be the same standard duty Dana 44 front (3800 lb.), 60 rear. His '76 has a GVWR of 8100 lb., my '79 GVWR is 7600 lb. Empty weight on my '79 is 5975 lb. with driver. I've had it loaded too 10950 lb. It's 3:30 and that means Beer Thirty!! Have a good one Tracy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:41:56 -0800 From: "sam weatherby" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift >> The Hiboys were manufactured through February of 1977. In March of 77 >> they began producing the 77 1/2 (Lowboy). That make sense to me. > It's 3:30 and that means Beer Thirty!! Where do you work? They don't give us beer here until 4:30!! My parents sold there '78 Bronco a few weeks ago. When I heard that I was kind of sad. I used to drive it in the winter when my car was hibernating. Used to race my friends '78 Scout a lot. He was much, much faster, but I could outhandle him easily, and didn't have to worry about body panels falling off. I also learned that in 4x it would pretty much spin around within it's wheelbase in the snow. It had that Strange pseudo full time 4x setup. Anyone know what T-case was responsible for that? Sorry for all the reminiscing... -srw Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy SWeatherby '70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang '93 F-150 XLT Lightning '98 HD FXD Super Glide '65 F100 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:59:15 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift >I also learned that in 4x it would pretty much spin around within it's >wheelbase in the snow. It had that Strange pseudo full time 4x setup. Anyone >know what T-case was responsible for that? > NP203 isn't it ? where you have 3 open diffs stock ... one on each axle and one in the middle to let you turn the corners ... it was always fun, took me a year to figure out the different settings though, then the next year I converted it to a part time case. But it was fun while it lasted ... Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:28:35 -0800 (PST) From: draco Subject: FTE 61-79 - Saddle tank on F-100 4X4? I was going to put the saddle tank from the F-250 (2WD Longbed Supercab) into the F-100 (4WD Longbed RegularCab) but it turns out it is too long and will not fit mainly because of the transfer case (NP203). A guy at a boneyard told me the saddle tanks are different for 4X4's. Now I am beginning to wonder if they had a saddle tank option at all. I think the NP203's are bigger than the 205's. Any one out there have a factory saddle tank on a truck like mine? If so, how many gallons does it hold? It is a 1974 F-100, Regular Cab, Longbed, FE/C6/NP203. Mark - -- '74 F-100 4X4 '74 F-250 Supercab == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:41:22 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Saddle tank on F-100 4X4? >A guy at a boneyard told me the saddle tanks are different for >4X4's. Now I am beginning to wonder if they had a saddle tank >option at all. I think the NP203's are bigger than the 205's. > Don't have one, but this sounds right from everything I've seen ... as far as the 203 vs 205 size (not weight, just dimensions) Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 15:17:12 PST From: "Andy D" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates >wonder if it was an option on Fords, possibly part of an XLT or Ranger >package or maybe the Camper Specials for those big cabover slide ins. My dads 76 truck is a plane jane 2 wheel drive w/300 six and 3 on the tree. No options at all and it has the quick release tailgate. My old 79 was a ranger and it had it too. As a mater of fact I can't remember seeing a 73-79 Ford without a quick release tailgate (I'll be looking at everyones now) Andy www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464 ICQ# 13179729 70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6 56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed 56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:20:36 -0800 From: "sam weatherby" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ful time - ish... I discoved that even when I put it in what I thought was 2x the fronts would still spin on ice. I figured I broke it... Then my dad told me what it was. Instead of selecting 2, 4, or 4low it was unlock, lock, and locked low. That Bronco did excellent in icy conditions. I would love to have the same setup again. -srw Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy SWeatherby '70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang '93 F-150 XLT Lightning '98 HD FXD Super Glide '65 F100 - -----Original Message----- From: William S Hart To: 61-79-list Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 1:05 PM Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift >>I also learned that in 4x it would pretty much spin around within it's >>wheelbase in the snow. It had that Strange pseudo full time 4x setup. Anyone >>know what T-case was responsible for that? >> >NP203 isn't it ? where you have 3 open diffs stock ... one on each axle >and one in the middle to let you turn the corners ... it was always fun, >took me a year to figure out the different settings though, then the next >year I converted it to a part time case. > >But it was fun while it lasted ... > >Bill >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 15:29:31 PST From: "Andy D" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift >I've been told by 'someone in the know' that all F250's before '78 are >called HiBoys. '78 & '79 are called LowBoys. I've also seen these >trucks referenced this way in an aftermarket suspension catalogue, maybe >Superlift. Just to add my 2 cents. I had a friend in school that said his truck was a HiBoy (75 or 76 I can't remember come to think of it I don't remember if it was a F-250 of F-100. I think it was a F-100 because it was a short bed). When looked at it, it had no visible blocks but cleared 36's easily. The frame on his truck looked taller about (3 to 4 inches) then my 79 4x4 i had at the time. I always thought the lift was in the frame height on the HiBoys not the suspention or body. Andy www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464 ICQ# 13179729 70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6 56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed 56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:56:22 -0800 (PST) From: m frank Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need 4.10 or 4.11 rear diff for '71 F100 Hey folks. I'm having a heck of a time finding a 4.10/4.11 rear differential for my '71 F100. I bought the truck with a 4.10 up front but a 3.25/28 spline axles in the rear. Before I go trying to build what I have, I thought I would see if anyone knew where to find one. I'm in Wichita and not too many hills to 4 wheel on. == If you can't fix it with duct tape, it's not broke. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:28:49 EST From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap while on 429-460 engine swaps: for those with automatics, keep in mind there is two different size pilot holes for the snout on the torque converter. i have ran into this twice. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:34:36 EST From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 427 wish i'd known someone would pay that much for a 427 mr, had a buddy that sold one a few months back. for 2500.00 and had it for sale for about a year, ended up trading for something. it was built to run but never fired. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:49:34 EST From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Need 4.10 or 4.11 rear diff for '71 F100 used ones are hard to find, if you buy a new one stick with a ford or dana made unit, i've heard some of the aftermarket units,like zoom, richmond etc are hard to set up and won't last as long as the other two i mentioned. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:24:15 EST From: JUMPINFORD Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates Well I tell ya, untill this thread came out, I didnt think that any of the Ford tailgates were quick release until 1980. My truck doesnt have it, my 73 doesnt, and my dads 75 doesnt. And all of these are even XLTs. Go figure, but since mine is shot, I'm gonna look for one that is, because it sure would be nice to have. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:46:28 -0800 From: "O'Connor" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates John wrote: My 69 f100 does not have a tailgate. Does any one know what years I can salvage from? My response: Assuming it is a styleside, 67 thru 72 are the same. You can get a repro from Mac's Antique Auto Parts (800-777-0948) for $195. If it's a stepside, all the antique places have then including Mac's. Tim 66F100/352 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:55:03 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tailgates My 67 F100 has it. At 08:24 PM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >Well I tell ya, untill this thread came out, I didnt think that any of the >Ford tailgates were quick release until 1980. My truck doesnt have it, my 73.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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