61-79-list-digest Friday, January 8 1999 Volume 03 : Number 003



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates
FTE 61-79 - VIN location 65-72 Effies
FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates
Re:FTE 61-79 - questions
RE: FTE 61-79 - 427
FTE 61-79 - Current C6 status, was C6 experts and wannabes
RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap
FTE 61-79 - Master cylinder
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering
FTE 61-79 - RE:67 F100
FTE 61-79 - Steering Shaft Stuff
FTE 61-79 - Fuel Inlet Hose
FTE 61-79 - Tailshaft
FTE 61-79 - Brake light switch
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion
FTE 61-79 - Re: questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - 427
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates
FTE 61-79 - surging
FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - Master cylinder
Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates
FTE 61-79 - Steering Shaft Specs
FTE 61-79 - RE:RE: '67 F100
Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift
FTE 61-79 - Behind the axle fuel tank
Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift
Re: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:04:13 -0500
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates

>Don't the Ford tailgates come off this way: Slightly open tailgate -
>remove the metal side folding contraptions(they have a slot to come off
>the stud thing sticking out from the outer portion of tailgate) that hold
>the tailgate level with bed when down - lower tailgate almost all way and
>lift the front - and bingo - it is in your hands-??????
>
>Shouldn't take more than 1 miniute, and probably less If I remember
>correctly ...

That's what I thought until I went to install the tailgate onto my truck. I
couldn't get it to fit over the two nipple-things on the box sides. No
matter how much jiggling and wiggling I couldn't figure out how the heck
the tailgate was supposed to slip over them. I ended up having to unbolt
one side and wrestle it back on with the tailgate on it.


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:00:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - VIN location 65-72 Effies

>From: Jason Eaton
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Frame ID #?
>
>Where on a the 65-72 trucks are the ID# that identifies the frame? I
>have heard
>two or three different answers on this one. Supposedly near the front
>bumper and under
>the cab are two locations.

This is correct for both locations. You will never see the one under the
cab unless
it (the cab) has been removed and even then on my truck, the number under
the cab was not the same number as under the front right fender. They
were one number off from each other.

F11YRK***52 under front fender, on door jam and on title

F11YRK***53 under cab

Go figure!! I was and still am confoosed by it!!

Stu
Nuke GM!
www.pscico.com/stu

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:34:33 -0500
From: "John Peck"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates

My 69 f100 does not have a tailgate. Does any one know what years I can
salvage from?

The spare tire valve has been drilled for a tire tube. Is welding the hole
closed and drilling for new valve stem feasible? The way my luck has been
running I need to fix it fast.

Thanks.

John Peck
johnpeck visuallink.com

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 05:41:19 PST
From: "eldon eversull"
Subject: Re:FTE 61-79 - questions

Brad: I also changed to power brakes and needed a new brake light
switch. I used a plunger switch for a 1967+ Ford vehicle. The next
problem was the bolt. I found an exhaust bolt in the help! section for
a Chr##ler would work, the shoulder on the bolt was just long enough to
space the gap for the switch.

Eldon
1964 f100 swb power disk brakes


You said:

Also,
I am changing to power brakes and no longer have a fitting to mount my
pressure actuated Brake Light switch. In your collective experience,
should I go to a plunger switch....

Any opinions/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
bjones snip.net
'65 f 100 shortbed (not stepside) modified with '68 f250 4WD drive
train.

and Don added:

Forget putting back the pressure switch. I also put in a pressure
switch when
I changed to power disk brakes. The extra pressure blows them out....

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:02:00 -0600
From: Rick_Thompson dell.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 427

Did it have heads intake and all? I would be interested if it's complete.

Rick Thompson
(512) 728-6294
rick_thompson dell.com


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From: The Freeman Family [mailto:oldparts ford-trucks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 7:23 PM
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Subject: FTE 61-79 - 427



Guys I found a 427 medium riser today sitting in a machine shop. Took my
block in to have it cleaned and bored and new bearing put in and there she
sat. From what my machinist told me was it came out of a Sprint Car and he
has just freshened it up. I asked if it were for sell and he told me that
for $4500 he'd drop it in my truck. Tempted but a little to rich for me at
the moment. But if any is intrested let me know and I'll get you hooked up
with him and you can talk.

Just thought you'd like to know. I don't think he charges extra for the
drool marks I left on it.

Later,

- -Ted


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:22:19 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Current C6 status, was C6 experts and wannabes

>I saw you recent post regarding delayed 2/3 shifts on your C6. It
>appears you've done everything involved already, so I dug out my ATSG
>service manual and checked the troubleshooting section: The only thing I
>found that is not on your list of already changed/checked items is the
>intermeadiate servo and its related parts. The servo is accessable on
>the outside for the transmission, passenger side toward the bell
>housing. The cover bolts on (4) and inside is a piston with seals. The
>book says air pressure check the servo and its check ball (in the valve
>body), since you've changed the valve body it unlikely that is the
>problem, unless you pulled the cover plate and dropped the check ball
>out during the swap. You might check the piston seals and case surface
>for the intermeadiate servo. All the other checks in the

Paul and Burt, I think you guys are onto the problem. With Burt's help, I
have deciphered that the problem is that the reverse-high clutch is trying
to engage but the intermediate band is not releasing until you let off the
gas. So Burt pointed out that the 2-3 backout valve is forcing the band to
release. Ok, so last night I get to studying the descriptions of all the
components in my Ford service manual. Here's the deal: When it is time
for a 2-3 shift, apply pressure is sent to the reverse-high clutch pack and
this same pressure is sent at the same time to the release side of the
intermediate servo. However, apply pressure is still present at the servo.
Since both sides are equal, the spring sort of "breaks the tie" and
releases the servo. But mine does not do this. Now, when you let off the
gas, the 2-3 backout valve dumps the apply pressure at the servo. So, it
seems my servo will not release until the apply pressure is releived. This
leads me to believe the spring is not doing it's job. Either it is broken
or worn or something like that. So this weekend I will take out the servo
and see what gives. It seems as though the problem HAS to be in the servo,
if it was the valve body the reverse-high pack would not be trying to
engage as the pressure for that and the release of the band comes from the
same valve.

>troubleshooting section are for vacuum related problems, did you check
>for vacuum at the modulator. Some of the tests in the book call for

Yes, I have 16 inches at idle at the modulator and up at the manifold. Not
as much as it should be but this motor is tired and especially needs a
timing chain in the worst way.

>applying vacuum (with a tester) directly to the modulator and checking
>the shift points with various values of vacuum applied. Last, reading
>between the lines, it would appear that the govenor is not even a factor
>in the 2/3 shift. It is only mentioned in regards to the 1/2 shift.
>The ATSG manual is available from transmission parts suppliers or JC
>Whitney for about $12. It is pretty much a copy of the Ford service
>manuals for C6's in most truck service manuals. It does contain some
>Tech service bulletins not found in Ford books. One last note, you did
>torque the valve body nice and evenly to 95-125 inch pounds right??? If
>not all bets are off!
>
OK, I admit I did not do this. I do not have an inch-pound torque wrench,
but I am pretty good at getting the bolts equal tightness and I used a 1/4"
rachet so as not to overtorque. I am fairly confident the problem is not
the valve body as I mentioned above. But I guess I really need to get me
one of those little torque wrenches.

Thanks to everybody for your suggestions, feel free to comment further on
this note and I'll let y'all know how it goes this weekend with the servo.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:00:49 -0500
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap

> ----------
> From: Boon40 aol.com[SMTP:Boon40 aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:08 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap
>
> Dear Gentlemen,
> I have found a 460 for 300 dollars. It comes from a 70 lincoln, and
> has 73
> heads on it. It has never been rebuilt. Does this sound good? I know i
> will
> have to change the oil pan and pick up. Will i need to use different
> exhaust
> manifolds? Thanks, boon
>
Too bad it doesn't have the DOVE heads still on it. The '73 heads
are 8:1 +/- compression but will make respectable power. I'm using '72
heads on a '69 429 block. I'm wondering why someone has changed the
heads. What else has been changed????


You will need a passenger side 'truck' manifold to simplify things
and they can be hard to find. I found one for $35 but had to drive an hour
each way and take it off myself. I paid $150 (I supplied the 3"
Flowmaster) for a welding/exhaust shop to bend up a new single exhaust from
the manifolds back, exiting before the right rear tire.

I done the swap on '79 F250 4x4 w/351M. I started with only short
block and had to scrounge/fabricate everything. Some other things to
consider:

A big-block torque converter.

All the car and 2x4 truck engines I've seen have the alt. and power
pump hung down low on the block, which won't work on a 4x4. Either
fabricate new brackets or take a severe butt f___n from L&L Products.

I had to lengthen the throttle linkage about 2" to reach the new
Holley 4bbl. A 3" long 1/4-20 stud, a few nuts and a small piece of sheet
metal makes a nice adjuster.

There are short shaft and long shaft water pumps. I used a short
shaft. Also, pay attention to the orientation of the lower hose snout.
Oh, don't forget to check the fan blade spacer. I had to get a shorter
spacer to keep fan-to-radiator clearance. I could write a book on this
area alone, so....


L&L Products motor mounts ~ $100 :-o) Should've made my own.

Probably a slew of other minor irritants. Good luck.

Tracy
tracyjones cinergy.com
'79 F250
429 C6 NP205
4" Superlift
8200 WARN with dual batts.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:02:43 PST
From: "b hp"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Master cylinder

Does anyone know if it is possible to replace the stock master brake
cylinder on my 65 F-100 and replace it with a dual master brake
cylinder?

The brakes are currently all drums and manual. I have a master cylinder
and proportioning valve from an early 70s F-100. It had drums all round
as well. Is it a straight swap or is it more complex than that?? I have
all new wheel cylinders and all the sketchy looking brake lines have
been replaced.


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:16:46 -0700
From: robchase
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering

Hello all,
I have 73 F-250 4x4 that doesn't have power steering. Can I just take
the pump and steering box off of another 4X4 and
have it bolt right up? Are there any parts or years that are
interchangeable? Has anyone done this before? I only ask as my arms are
getting tired !! Any help you can give is appreciated.

Thanks, Rob
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:22:50 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:67 F100

Is it idling rough, or is it under light throttle? Depending on how you
have your vacuam advance hooked up (manifold or ported vacuam)if the can
is leaking down it will run rough either at idle or at tip in.

Get a hand vacuam pump and draw on it and see if it holds vacuam and
observe whether the plate moves when you engage and disengage it. To
check your centrifigal weights move your rotor back and forth, it should
spring back to it's original position unless it's froze up.

Please explain further your PCV arrangement, I didn't quite understand
it. On my '65 I couln't find a grommet so I reversed my PCV system and
put a breather cap that holds the PCV valve in the drivers side valve
cover, and a closest fit grommet glued in with black RTV with an elbow
fitting with a hose on the breathing(passenger) side. It works great.
If I remember right yours is similar to my original arrangement. The
valve goes directly into the pass side valve cover grommet, with a
breather cap on the drivers side. With the PCV it's very important
that the grommet be tight, if it isn't it will be a vacuam leak at idle.

I don't raelly understand the mechanics reccomendation, did they say not
to run a PCV valve, but a cap instead(without a valve)? If they did
don't do it, you have to have a PCV valve.

>
> Haven't been able to get this thing to run smooth yet. Tried going back
> to my old gap and timing (32 and 6 btdc) and seemed a little better.
> Took it to a shop and they plugged the port at the rear of the carb
> riser plate (which I had always hooked up to my PCV valve) and told me
> to replace the PCV valve with a PCV breather since it shouldn't have
> been connected to that riser. And they adjusted the timing to about 10
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:25:54 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Shaft Stuff

I saw a few questions regarding the steering shaft fix that I'll try and
answer, but Tony M., feel free to jump in here anytime!

Scott, the parts should work for the 76 F-250 4x4 shaft....I'll double check
tonite and let you know. My stock 76 F-250 has that rinky-dink steering ram or
"power assist" setup (soon to be converted to the 79-79 setup), and my 69
F-100 4x4 did not have power steering stock, but does now have the 78-79 setup
for the half ton 4x4's. The Spicer parts that I listed (Tony M. found them)
did work on a 78 steering shaft. I have a hunch they will work on your 71' 1/2
ton 4x4 as well....What I'll do is count the splines on the steering column
shaft (coming out of the fire wall) and measure its diameter, and then measure
the diameter of the steering shaft (between the U-joint and box). This should
tell you if the parts will work for you or not....

Azie, I was actually able to get two of the parts from a regular parts house
here. They were unable to locate the last part, but my local "DriveTrain"
specialty house had it no problem....Anyone who can get Spicer parts should be
able to get these...

I then had a question for Wayne: I didn't need to replace the other
"collapsible" end, but the Spicer parts you found allow the "collapsing"? At
first, I was thinking you had put a U-joint at both ends....a no-no....

Thanks, I'll post the steering part dimensions tomorrow....

Colorado Jeff





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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:28:36 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fuel Inlet Hose

Hey John,

Good discussion on the inlet hose, that was me who was asking.....

Thats what I was looking for!

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:41:33 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tailshaft

Jimbo writes: >>Can the 2WD tailshaft on a C6 be substituted for the 4WD
tailshaft?

To change them, the output shaft has to be changed also, and this means you
have to empty the case of all its parts. Different lengths, and I think
different splines on the shafts. I know for sure that the tranny output
shaft on the Divorced type NP205's have a yoke similar to the rearend (Held
on by a nut to the output shaft) - not the splined slip yoke type.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:01:07 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brake light switch

Brad Jones writes: >>I am changing to power brakes and no longer have a
fitting to mount my
pressure actuated Brake Light switch. In your collective experience,
should
I go to a plunger switch on the pedal or does someone know of a Tee the
will
take the double flange fittings (JIC?) on the straight sides and what
appears to be a 1/4" pipe tap for the new switch on the third tee port?


I would prefer the plunger switch on the pedal. They tend to give less
problems, but either of your suggestions should work.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:55:56 -0600
From: "Michael Masse"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion

Where do you live and would you part with just the C6? I'm assuming it's =
a big block C6? Since it's got a 205 attached to it. What kind of =
condition is it in?


>>> 06-01-99 10:29:47 PM >>>
i have a c6 and a np205 for sale for 250.00, but can't find anyone that =
needs
it, the 205's hardly ever tear up. the local yards get 250.00 just for the =
t
case. if you buy just the tcase you have to have the tailshaft from the =
trans
and also the adapter.

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:51:19 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: questions

On Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:15:37 -0500, "Brad Jones"
wrote:

> I am changing to power brakes and no longer have a fitting to mount my
> pressure actuated Brake Light switch. In your collective experience, should
> I go to a plunger switch on the pedal or does someone know of a Tee the will
> take the double flange fittings (JIC?) on the straight sides and what
> appears to be a 1/4" pipe tap for the new switch on the third tee port?

I got a wiring diagram for my '61 that mentions that heavy trucks (like
F-600) used a pedal switch, so I went to the parts store and they had
it. I think I'd need to drill some holes for it though.

Birken
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:41:11 -0500
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 427

Rick,

It is all there. If you'd like, I'll send you a private e-mail with their
name and number.

Later,

- -Ted
- -----Original Message-----
From: Rick_Thompson dell.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 427


>Did it have heads intake and all? I would be interested if it's complete.
>
>Rick Thompson
>(512) 728-6294
>rick_thompson dell.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Freeman Family [mailto:oldparts ford-trucks.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 7:23 PM
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - 427
>
>
>
>Guys I found a 427 medium riser today sitting in a machine shop. Took my
>block in to have it cleaned and bored and new bearing put in and there she
>sat. From what my machinist told me was it came out of a Sprint Car and he
>has just freshened it up. I asked if it were for sell and he told me that
>for $4500 he'd drop it in my truck. Tempted but a little to rich for me at
>the moment. But if any is intrested let me know and I'll get you hooked up
>with him and you can talk.
>
>Just thought you'd like to know. I don't think he charges extra for the
>drool marks I left on it.
>
>Later,
>
>-Ted
>
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:49:28 EST
From: Pyrate951 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: questions

I have a 68 F-250 with power brakes and it has a switch on the brake petal.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:00:14 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates

>My 69 f100 does not have a tailgate. Does any one know what years I
can
>salvage from?

67-72 I know fit not sure what else.

>The spare tire valve has been drilled for a tire tube. Is welding the
hole
>closed and drilling for new valve stem feasible? The way my luck has
been
>running I need to fix it fast.

I have done this make sure you get a good weld to be air tight (not much
heat, mig welder is fine) and grind the weld smooth (not too much) so
balancing will be easy.


Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
ICQ# 13179729
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:10:04 -0600
From: Gene Gardner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - surging

Happy New Year, all -- I've had a recurring problem with my fuel supply
(pretty sure it's not electrical, but open to suggestion): every couple of
weeks -- usually when the gastank gets low -- the truck either starts
jerking, or dying at stopsigns, or both. Then the problem disappears,
usually after I stop and restart it. I've replaced the fuel filter twice in
6 months (seems to always have little scales or rust particles). Before I
pull the gastank and hose it out, any thoughts about possible carb probs?
It seems to change idle speeds (a previous mechanic said the butterfly
valve at the bottom is warped), though the engine runs smoothly. I've got a
Motorcraft 1V (manual choke) in a 70 F100 with a 300 six. Help -- this has
been driving me to distraction!

Thanks -- Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher
Hermosillo, Mexico

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:25:19 -0500
From: Jim Craig
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion

I have had several questions about the conversion I am doing. Here's how
it's going.

- --The magazine this conversion was in is "Off Road" issues: Dec. '97, Jan.
'98, and Feb. '98.

To do the swap, you'll need the 4WD front crossmember with the side box
plates that were welded on. This is by far the hardest part--to cut it
free from inside the other frame. I didn't use any kind of torch for fear
of heat stress (and inaccuracy on my part). I got a dozen metal cutting
blades for the circular saw. Then comes the most accurate part--drilling
holes to mount the spring towers. I took the measurements from the 4X4
frame and *hope* the wheels will sit in the center of the wheelwells. My
measurements came well within a sixteenth of origional, so I am confident I
will be pleased with the results.

On the 2WD frame you will have to cut out the front crossmember, which is
about as time consuming as seperating the 4WD frame was, and maybe even a
shade harder. I completely cut out the crossmember with the frame inline
with the inside of the framerail. I then had to go back and finish cutting
the rest of the framerail where it was welded inside the frame with a small
air cut-off tool. Same goes for the steering box bracing because the inner
4WD framerails extend into that area. 2WD spring mounts are riveted on,
and I began to remove them by grinding off the head of the rivets and
punching them out. I realized there is no need to actually punch them out.
Rather, grind off the heads of all the supporting rivets and whack the
spring tower off with a sledge. The rivets come out easier this way :-)

All frame parts were sandblasted and painted prior to assembly.

--This is as far as I have gotten--

The 4WD crossmember will have to be welded into the 2WD framerails.
The 4WD steering box will now need to mount on the outside of the frame
where the "hump" in the frame is. I have to cut out the top of the hump
and weld it back together flat.
Again, I will drill the mounting holes in accordance with measurements I
take from the 4WD frame. Same goes for the locating arm for the axle, 4WD
radius arm brackets, and transmission crossmember. I plan to use the brake
line brackets riveted to the 2WD frame.

Jimbo
'77 Supercab 466






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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:42:57 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Master cylinder

b hp wrote:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to replace the stock master brake
> cylinder on my 65 F-100 and replace it with a dual master brake
> cylinder?

Yep, it is practically a bolt on. You will have to add some lines for the
front or back and adjust the push rod between the booster and master
cylinder or between the master cylinder and the pedal, but that is about
it.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon
ICQ# 19575234

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:04:03 -0500
From: "Humanhunter (Blake Barr)"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering

I have a '71 F-250 4x4 and my manual steering works great but I want PS
for offroading so
i'd like to hear something a little less vauge than the usual answer (I'm on
17 and I'm not the best with cars yet)

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From: robchase
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 10:16 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering


>Hello all,
> I have 73 F-250 4x4 that doesn't have power steering. Can I just take
>the pump and steering box off of another 4X4 and
>have it bolt right up? Are there any parts or years that are
>interchangeable? Has anyone done this before? I only ask as my arms are
>getting tired !! Any help you can give is appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Rob
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:59:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Spare tires and tailgates

At 08:34 AM 1/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>My 69 f100 does not have a tailgate. Does any one know what years I can
>salvage from?
>
>The spare tire valve has been drilled for a tire tube. Is welding the hole
>closed and drilling for new valve stem feasible? The way my luck has been
>running I need to fix it fast.
>
>Thanks.
>
>John Peck
>johnpeck visuallink.com
>

67-72 if you want the correct gate. Anything from 61-79 will fit.


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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:39:14 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Shaft Specs

OK, I have a little info on the steering shaft that those Spicer parts I
listed fit:

Steering Column Shaft (out of firewall w/splines) = 23/32" (best I could
measure)
Steering Shaft between box and U-joint = 3/4" diameter.

I'm hoping to hear back if these fit on that 71 F-100 4x4.....

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:27:37 -0700
From: John & Iva McKay
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:RE: '67 F100

thanks bill !
just timed it with a vac gauge and it's better.
pulling 15-20 but it wavers a little bit at idle. reading changes
as i increase the throttle (lower than higher at high rpms)
is this normal ? my book says steady reading across the throttle range.

should i stay at my old gap of 35 for the plugs or go to the
recommended gap for that year ignition ('75) ? I think '75 is
at 42.

thanks again everyone. i'm not there yet but thanks to you i'm
closer.

john (az67)
'67 F100

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:16:20 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift

A friend of mine had a "High Boy" 4x4, that was a Ford option. Never looked
at the paperwork but it did sit higher than other stock 4x4's.

Jeff

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> From: Don Grossman
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Factory lift
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 3:41 PM
>
> This is my second try at commenting about the Factory lift. The first
one sounded
> a little irate.
>
> As far as I know there was no such thing as a Factory lift. No check box
on the
> order sheet. No comment on the dealer sticker window. The 4x4 models
were just
> built to stand higher.
>
> Sorry I'm fresh out of matches.
>
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon
> ICQ# 19575234
>
> 99 Contour SE Sport
> 63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:30:57 -0800
From: "Steven Salas"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Behind the axle fuel tank

I have a '69 F250 2wd. Does anyone know if there was ever, a behind the
axle fuel tank , put in these trucks ? If not, is there a tank from
possibly a newer truck that will work. I already have the long one that runs
alongside the driveshaft, but I'd like to get rid of the tank in the cab.
Thanks, Steve '69 F250/390 4V '57 T-Bird E code (312 8V)

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