61-79-list-digest Wednesday, January 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 027



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - RE: reman parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights
FTE 61-79 - Re: Varner Gets Into the 90's
FTE 61-79 - shells or skins???
Re: FTE 61-79 - lubricants&fluids
Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission Cooler
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: reman parts
FTE 61-79 - Where's Marko
FTE 61-79 - Need help quickish
FTE 61-79 - San Fran F250
FTE 61-79 - floor pan
Re: FTE 61-79 - Need help quickish
FTE 61-79 - RE: Ignition problem
FTE 61-79 - Re: bolt in oil pan?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Need help quickish
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Varner Gets Into the 90's
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: bolt in oil pan?
FTE 61-79 - stray bolt in oil pan
Re: FTE 61-79 - 302 carb problems
RE: FTE 61-79 - stray bolt in oil pan
FTE 61-79 - front brakes on a 75, F100
FTE 61-79 - Oil Debate & 3.03 RAT
FTE 61-79 - Re: Rear drum help needed!!
FTE 61-79 - 4x4 conversion...
FTE 61-79 - Tranny cooling
FTE 61-79 - 460 conversion
FTE 61-79 - Dist calibration
FTE 61-79 - calling all cent.Florida FTE's
FTE 61-79 - 460 pan for 4X4
FTE 61-79 - Realigning doors / new hinges.
Re: FTE 61-79 - calling all cent.Florida FTE's
Re: FTE 61-79 - calling all cent.Florida FTE's
FTE 61-79 - fire extinguisher rant
FTE 61-79 - RE: locking hood latch cable
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Realigning doors / new hinges.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny cooling
FTE 61-79 - liquid wrench, etc.
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79- Transmission Cooler
FTE 61-79 - Lockers
Re: FTE 61-79 - shells or skins???
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lockers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lockers
FTE 61-79 - Tire Jack for a 66 F100
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79- Transmission Cooler
FTE 61-79 - Oil Smoil
Re: FTE 61-79 - Realigning doors / new hinges.
FTE 61-79 - 1978 ford f150 supercab 4x4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ford f150 supercab 4x4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lockers
FTE 61-79 - AODE
FTE 61-79 - Parts truck found!!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights
FTE 61-79 - Oil Smoil / 300 ignition hop-up
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lockers

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:09:04 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: reman parts

You got a couple too, eh? I knew it wasn't chance or bad luck. Did you find
another remanufacturer for these boxes? I couldn't find one, at least in
this city.

Later,

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net

>Hi Drew,
>I'm glad to hear you got satisfaction out of Cardone.

>I won't bore everyone with the details, but after my steering gear horror
>with them, I swore over a 12 pack that I'd never, EVER use another part
>reman. by Cardone.

>Tracy

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:35:01 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights

Count me in on that hot august nights, Renos just a hope skip and a jump...

Mike in Seattle

Art Verling wrote:

> Darrell
> Sounds like fun. When the time gets here I would be happy to help find
> places for others to stay. Lodging gets pretty crazy during the event.
> This will be the first year that I am going to get involved in the
> event. How do we get the FTE behind this event?
> Art Verling
> AV ix.netcom.com
> 64 F100
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:39:08 -0600
From: "James Elliott"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Varner Gets Into the 90's

>I see where ol' Marino had to drag you kicking and screaming into 90's by
>getting you set up with a PC at home!

I know. Ken is probably lying awake at night sweating, thinking about what
that means for list traffic now that Stu can post freely instead of sneaking
around at work.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:59:13 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - shells or skins???

>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:28:11 -0500
>From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Door shells
>
>Mac's Antique Auto Parts has them for $59.25 and are for the '67-'72. I
>think they are one of the advertisers of this site.
>
>Later,
>
>- -Ted

Ted,

I have never seen door shells for 67-72 models ever listed. However, I have
seen door *skins* listed with several obsolete companies for about $59.00 as
you suggested. Door shells for 73-79 models are listed in either
Carpenters or Melvins for about $179 I think.

Stu
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:00:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "Sean O'Malley"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - lubricants&fluids

Thanks for asking--the same question has been on my mind, too.
Especially since my synchros seem a bit balky, esp when it's
cold....

- --sean

> Everyone has been talking about
> oil,oil,oil,mineral,synthetic,gear,etc. Im kinda wondering about my
> service manual I use 80w90 gear oil in my tranny and it seems to be
> to heavy.Some of yous have been talking about 50w mineral oil in man
> transmissions seems logical my manual says to use sae 140w gear
> oil(ford no.ESO-M2C83-C) in all manual transmissons and transfer
> cases is this a heavier oil than 80w90? i would think so I dont know
> what to use? it goes on to say use sae90w gear oil in dana and ford
> (non locking)differentials.Dana limited slip add friction modifier
> and ford traction-lok use sae90w gear oil(ford no. ESW-MZC 119-A) NOTE.
> DIFFERENT PART # whats the diff between sae90w and sae90w doesnt seem
> much different to me !! someone enlighten me on this ...
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:04:27 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission Cooler

>Thanks man. Well, the thermostat on my truck is new, so I don't know
>really what is wrong. My truck is misfiring a lot, so that could be some
>of the problem, and I think the original cap is on teh radiatior.

The misfiring is definitley a bad thing, try tracking that down first, then
worry about the overheating problems ...


I took
>it up on some logging trails today, and had to reverse up one real steep
>muddy hill, and it almost overheated completely when I reached the top.
>
hmmm...it sounds like maybe your cooling system isn't quite up to par, most
likely you're running at low rpm's for extended periods...this can be hard
on the cooling system because your fan isn't turning fast enough to pull
cold air through ... you might try switching to an electric fan to help out
with the cooling chores, especially at low speeds. Did you say if you had
a fresh radiator in ? Also for the cap, its a cheap try ... the only thing
that can go bad with them is not allowing the pressure to build like it
should, but if that were the case you'd hear it hissing out when it was hot
....


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:08:42 -0500
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: reman parts

> ----------
> From: Drew Beatty[SMTP:dcbeatty rmi.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 8:09 AM
> To: 'Ford Truck List'
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: reman parts
>
> You got a couple too, eh? I knew it wasn't chance or bad luck. Did you
> find
> another remanufacturer for these boxes? I couldn't find one, at least in
> this city.
>
> Later,
>
> Drew Beatty
> dcbeatty rmi.net
>
Hi Drew,
This was for a '76 E-150 Club Wagon I had at the time, which is a common
site at the local junk yards. After giving up on Cardone, I bought several
steering boxes from local bone yards and swaped them until I found the best
one.

BTW, I actually sent Cardone my original steering box (twice) for rebuilding
and all I got in return was a $300 paint job. #%*! B_stards!

Tracy

> >Hi Drew,
> >I'm glad to hear you got satisfaction out of Cardone.
>
> >I won't bore everyone with the details, but after my steering gear horror
> >with them, I swore over a 12 pack that I'd never, EVER use another part
> >reman. by Cardone.
>
> >Tracy
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:18:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Where's Marko

Mark,

I think Mr. CJ (Colorado Jeff or 428 Cobra Jet) is refering to Marko
Maryniak (One of the old timers on the list) in Vancouver, British Columbia
with his mouth watering 1967 Mercury M-250 4x4 powered by a Maruader 4V 410
FE Merc engine and an NP 435 tranny! THE Stuff dreams are made of!

Been wondering if you are still alive too big boy! Let us hear from you!!

Stu
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:22:15 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need help quickish

Well all, I'm finally makin a run to the boneyard today ... gonna try and
get an underhood wiring harness for my truck to convert it to elec.
ignition. Is there anything I should be looking for when I go to pull one
? I was told they're the same for all engines, so I shouldn't have a
problem finding one ....

Is there anything else I should pick up while I'm out there ? Anyone need
anything from a 4x2? Funny out here the 4x4's never seem to get to the
junk yard, they just get new bodies put on them again...

Anyway if someone can clue me in to whether I need a specific type of
harness or not, that would be great ....


Thanks
Bill (wish)
7? F1?? 4x4 360--->390 :)


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:26:40 -0500
From: William King
Subject: FTE 61-79 - San Fran F250

Hi all,
Was in San Fran over the weekend for work and I saw
an awesome green 1970(?) F250 crew cab parked downtown.
It was in very nice shape (had the spare tire mounted
to the front bumper like Lorne Greens "Wild Kingdom"
Range Rover). Does a list member own this nice truck?
Ohio Bill
1968 Torino GT (429 4V 4speed)
1968 F100 (360 4V 4speed)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:37:42 -0500
From: "J. Doss Halsey"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - floor pan

For Kevin in Virginia Beach:

Mill Supply in Cleveland, Ohio sells a piece of sheet metal they call "rear cab floor support."

Their address is:

19801 Miles Road
Cleveland, OH 44128
1.800.888.5072

I'm still trying to figure out the main cab mounts for my '68 F-250 Camper Special. All I really need is a cab mount exactly like the original (oval flange mabye 12" X 6"). All I can find is these huge pieces that "entomb" the old mount. I am thinking about cutting the pieces I need off an old truck.

Doss Halsey
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:51:44 EST
From: Pyrate951 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Need help quickish

I went with a Pertronic electric ingnition and it it working great. Save a lot
of time and money.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:52:48 -0500
From: "Parsons, Raymond"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Ignition problem

Thanks Burt! I ran the compression check last night, 7 cyls were 120 and
one was 119. I rechecked all plug wires and found one was not seating on
the plug all of the way. Wow, what a difference it makes when all 8 cyls
are firing!
Ray


disconnect the #5 plug wire. >>

Burt Hill wrote: >
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:55:09 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: bolt in oil pan?

The first time I fired up my 390 I had the distrubutor out to prime
the oil pump. When I went to put it back I dropped the bolt for the
distrubutor hold down clamp down the hole. I looked around in there
with a flashlight and couldn't see it so I assumed it was sitting in
the oil pan. I wasn't going to pull the pan so I just left it there.

Because I am currently swapping the engine from a 2X4 to a 4X4 I had
to change oil pans and I found the bolt. I had forgotten about it.

I don't know what size this bolt is on a 460 but it sounds about
right. I can't be the only one who has ever done this.

Mark in Southwest Washington
- --
'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:08:32 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Need help quickish

At 08:51 AM 1/26/99 , you wrote:
>I went with a Pertronic electric ingnition and it it working great. Save a lot
>of time and money.

Well it would, except I already have the electronic ignition, that came
with the old 390 I bought to rebuild ... and since I'm going to have the
engine out ... replacing the wiring harness will be a cake job with the
motor out ... and give me a good base to start modifying if I decide I want
a stronger spark.

wish

Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:11:41 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Varner Gets Into the 90's

At 07:39 AM 1/26/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>I see where ol' Marino had to drag you kicking and screaming into 90's by
>>getting you set up with a PC at home!
>
>I know. Ken is probably lying awake at night sweating, thinking about what
>that means for list traffic now that Stu can post freely instead of sneaking
>around at work.
>
>Jim E.
>

Not terribly worried. Majordomo 2.0 is due to be released
shortly. Its going to automate many of my current chores
and will filter out MIME/UUENCODE attachments (yes!!!).
We'll just grow the lists (again). Sooner or later, I'll
have to put up another list split vote. The BBS seems to
have taken much of the pressure of list growth.

Besides.... I like reading his posts! (Call me selfish!)

Ken

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:13:30 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: bolt in oil pan?

>The first time I fired up my 390 I had the distrubutor out to prime
>the oil pump. When I went to put it back I dropped the bolt for the
>distrubutor hold down clamp down the hole. I looked around in there
>with a flashlight and couldn't see it so I assumed it was sitting in
>the oil pan. I wasn't going to pull the pan so I just left it there.
>
>I don't know what size this bolt is on a 460 but it sounds about
>right. I can't be the only one who has ever done this.
>
I was helpin a buddy replace the head gasket on his 87 F150 5.0 ... first
thing I told him when we pulled the distributor "Don't ever drop anything
down here" ... just as we're getting the final bolts back on the intake ...
he drops one down that hole ... I gave him one of those looks and did the
same thing you did (really didn't want to pull the pan, and didn't hear the
clunk) ... he managed to stand the thing straight up on the timing chain!
A chunk of heater hose, some duct tape, and a good strong vaccuum managed
to pick the thing up, but man I was worried about havinto pull the front
cover or something like that ...


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:29:11 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - stray bolt in oil pan

Boon,

What you describe sounds lke a body bolt. It probably fell in some time
during the manufacturing process and has been laying in the bottom of the
sump ever since. If you aren't missing any rod, main, oil pump, etc. bolts,
don't sweat it. Have you ever heard of the "It's not my job syndrome?" Even
if someone saw it in there, they probably wouldn't retrieve it. I knew a
guy many years ago whose job was to drive new cars off of the assembly line
to the first staging area. On one a steering wheel came off in his hands. I
asked if he reported it. "Heck, no, that's not my job."

- -John

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:42:01 -0700
From: "Richard Currit"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 302 carb problems

>the 77. She fires right up now. The >problem that I'm having now is she =
idles >real fast and when I put it in gear it stalls >out. I've tried to =
mess with the idle
>screws with no luck. I'm sure I have a >vacuum line hooked up wrong or =
>something, but I really don't know
>where I need to hook those up. Is there >something out there that makes =
it bone >stupid for someone like me?

Just something to mess with here. If your idle is set high, messing with =
the idle mixture screws will have no affect. Also, your vacuum advance is =
ported or "timed". If the idle is to high, you will always be at full =
vacuum advance. My elcheapo method for playing with it is this. Hook up =
a Tach. Start slowing down the idle with the idle adjustment screw on the =
throttle linkage. Do it a little at a time. Slow it down a bit and then =
back out the idle mixture screws like a 1/4 turn at a time. Repeat over =
and over again. You will finally reach a point that backing out the idle =
mixture screws will no longer increase the RPM. This is the spot you =
want. There are much more sophisticated ways to do this but this works =
pretty good. Now you can time it with the vacuum advance hose disconnected=
and plugged. Hope this helps.
High Plains Richard
'72 F-100



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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:59:20 -0500
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - stray bolt in oil pan

> ----------
> From: John LaGrone[SMTP:jlagrone ford-trucks.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 10:29 AM
> To: Ford Trucks 61-79
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - stray bolt in oil pan
>
> Boon,
>
> What you describe sounds lke a body bolt. It probably fell in some time
> during the manufacturing process and has been laying in the bottom of the
> sump ever since. If you aren't missing any rod, main, oil pump, etc.
> bolts,
> don't sweat it. Have you ever heard of the "It's not my job syndrome?"
> Even
> if someone saw it in there, they probably wouldn't retrieve it. I knew a
> guy many years ago whose job was to drive new cars off of the assembly
> line
> to the first staging area. On one a steering wheel came off in his hands.
> I
> asked if he reported it. "Heck, no, that's not my job."
>
> -John
>
I was thinking along the same lines. Maybe a gift from the factory
assembler?

Tracy

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:05:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Sweeter
Subject: FTE 61-79 - front brakes on a 75, F100

I have a 1975 F100 4x4. I had to replace the hub encasing on it and
the only ones I could find in the small town I live in were about a
1/3" bigger, which caused my drums not to fit properly. I can't find
a drum to fit and am thinking it would be nice to convert to disc
brakes in the front. Would it be possible to pull the disc brake
system off a 76 and put it on my 75.

Thanks,

Mike




_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:49:20 -0600
From: Steve Schmeckpeper
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Debate & 3.03 RAT

I have been following the transmission oil discussion with great interest.
After a complete re-build ~ 30k miles back, I was using 90wt out of habit. Had
the same symptoms some of you were reporting........So I switched to straight
50wt Valvoline this morning and noticed that it's MUCH quieter now. Also it
doesn't grind into second anymore :)) Thanks to all for the tip!!!
Smeck

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:01:53 -0600
From: "Jamey Moss"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Rear drum help needed!!

sam weatherby wrote:

> It seems that drums for my '65 are over $100!!!
> That is crazy. does anyone knoe what makes them different from other years
> with a 9" axle?
> I wonder what else is interchangeable or easy to swap out?

I recently put new drums all around on my 67 F100, and I called
everywhere looking for decent prices. Autozone had the drums for $35
each (with a lifetime warranty), while everyone else wanted $80-$100
each.

I also noticed that the front hubs had a Ford part code that started
with C4TZ (well, I'm not sure about the TZ, but the C4 is right). I
believe that means that the 67 F100s use the same hubs as the earlier
trucks, so maybe they used the same rear drums as well. Sorry I don't
have any more data on the rear parts, but when I was checking prices, I
noticed that the 67 shared most of the brake hardware with the 65 and 66
trucks. See if you can get the parts guys to check the measurements on
the 67 drums and compare those to the 65 specs, and maybe you can use
those if you can find them cheaper.


Jamey Moss
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:24:02 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 conversion...

I am looking for info about converting a '65 F100 to 4 wheel drive.
Specifically:
Do I need to modify the fame?
What axle (fromwhat vehicle) can I use?
Are the radius arm mounts the same?
Thanks,
-srw

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'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'98 HD FXD Super Glide
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:30:35 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tranny cooling

William Hart writes: >>I need some transmission cooling/engine cooling info,
don't think it'll be
>too difficult. Anyway, I have a 79 F150 460 4x4 with a 3 spd C-6. My
>tranny fluid keep getting REAL hot, and burning up, breaking seals. The
>tranny coller seems to be hooked up - 2 lines come from it to the middle

Those transmission lines should not stop at the bellhousing. They should run to
the front of the vehicle and enter into the radiator and exit the radiator (some
are on bottom at each side and some are on one side - one high and one low.)
You gotta have cooling or yes you will burn the tranny up. If your truck
doesn't have these then go look at someones of similar year and similar
equipment and check it out. (even checking a car will give you a general idea)

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:44:09 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 conversion

Jim Stewart writes: >>I'd like to have all the torque I can get in it. I have a
re-built 460
sitting on a stand that I would like to put in this truck. I've done a fair
amount of research on what needs to happen to make this work, and it
appears I just need to spend a lot of money. At this point I'm mostly
concerned with the exhaust system and clutch. I'd like to hear from anyone
who has found a way to do either with out spending big bucks for the
aftermarket conversion stuff. I want to keep the exhaust system inside the
frame.

I've done this a few times. Since your truck was originally equipped with a 6
I'm not sure about motormounts, but I suggest L&L. A little pricey, but they
work.
Your 400 bellhousing will work. Use the spacer from the 460 that you have. Get
a 360/390 flywheel from your favorite junkyard and take it and the auto flywheel
off the 460 to your favorite speed shop and have the 360/390 flywheel balanced
to the auto 460 flywheel. Get a new clutch for whatever vehicle you take the
flywheel off of or use the one from the 400 you currently have. The
pressureplate from the 400 will bolt to the 360/390 flywheel. Go to your local
muffler shop and have custom exhaust made to your personal taste. The
bellhousing and starter off the 400 will bolt up. The passenger side exhaust
needs to be from a late model 460 truck or van, or you will have to notch (very
slightly) the frame for clearance.
You will be pleasantly pleased with the torque these engines make - bone
stock.
Have I missed anything???Feel free to e-mail me direct if you wish.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:51:08 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dist calibration

Bill Beyer writes: >>By "set up" are you talking about the mech adv weights &
springs? Do you
think that the cam profiles are that much different on a stock 400 and a
stock 460? Even if they are I'd be willing to bet the stock distributors all
come out of the same place and are setup identically. Every aftermarket dist

Wouldn't argue the point, but yes I believe the cam difference and compression
differences is enough to warrant different advance curves between the 351M/400
and the 460. I've never seen a STOCK 351M/400 that developed very much
torque/hp. All seem to be very weak compared to the 429/460's.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:01:58 -0500
From: "Mike & Carrie Elmer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - calling all cent.Florida FTE's

I know pigeon forge is a ways off but is there anybody from central Florida
that wants to make plans for an FTE group trip up their,if so email off list
so we can hook up.As always thanks Mike Elmer

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:08:50 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 pan for 4X4

John Mc. writes: >>Has anyone bothered to call the dealer
to see if you can still get the pan for the van model?

That is also where I got mine. Can't remember the price, but I got dipstick and
pan for '82 van w/460.

I just wrote a post to someone (Stewart, maybe) about installing the 460 into a
'79 F250 4X4 and forgot this little piece of information. I hope he reads this.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:16:39 -0800
From: "Jeff Hannon"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Realigning doors / new hinges.

I have a '79 F150 that has sagging doors. From looking
at the hinge bolt locations, it looks impossible to get
at the hinges without taking off the front fenders. And
it looks like I'd have to remove the grill (around the
head lights) and a few other pieces to get the fenders
off.

I really don't want to dissassemble my entire truck just
to put some new hinges on the doors. Has anyone done this
an easier way?

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:28:24 -0500 (EST)
From: jdklaers mailhost.magicnet.net (PredFan)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - calling all cent.Florida FTE's

>I know pigeon forge is a ways off but is there anybody from central Florida
>that wants to make plans for an FTE group trip up their,if so email off list
>so we can hook up.As always thanks Mike Elmer
>

Mike, I can't make the trip up there this time but I just wanted to let you
know that I'm here. I live in Orlando and have a '71 Flare-side. Maybe next
year.

Is there a Ford Pick Up club here in Cent. Fla?

Feb 7th I'm heading out to Webster for the auto show and swap meet. Ever been?

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:29:40 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - calling all cent.Florida FTE's

At 01:01 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I know pigeon forge is a ways off but is there anybody from central Florida
>that wants to make plans for an FTE group trip up their,if so email off list
>so we can hook up.As always thanks Mike Elmer
>

Did you see any of the posts recently about the Pigeon
Forge mailing list we have? We have lots of people
on it who are planning to go.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:35:11 PST
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - fire extinguisher rant

>>My point is that those 2-1/2 lb units most people carry in vehicles
>>are not large enough to handle vehicle fires, imho. I have 5 lb.
>>units in the trucks now and hope I don't have to find out if they
>>are big enough. Also, time and vibration can pack down the powder,
>>I am told. A prudent person would get a new unit every few years.
>>All the more reason to help some stranger put out his vehicle fire.

Maintinance on a fire extinguisher is to turn it upside-down and hit it
with a rubber mallet to loosen the powder that may be compacted at the
bottom of the cylinder. Then check the pressure gauge or weigh the co2
cylinder, depending on which type you have. Do this twice a year and
your ready to go. Most pressurized extinguishers should be recharged or
replaced every 10 years.
One or two of those 5 lb boxes of baking soda make a good backup for a
small extinguisher, too.

A while ago we were called to a fire in a late 80's f-150. the fire was
wiring related and the plastic in the dash was burning. We used two 10
lb extinguishers on it and finally ended up using foam to put it out.
The truck was repairable, but the fire sure was stubborn to put out.



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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:35:26 -0500
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: locking hood latch cable

Mark,
I worked in the service department at a Ford
dealer back in the mid-eighties and installed
a couple of those locking cables in trucks. I
can't remember if it was a Ford or aftermarket
item. Believe it or not, things other than Ford
factory parts are often installed on Fords,
even on new ones. Of course, the customer
isn't supposed to think so... . Anyway, you =

might just stop at your local Ford dealer to =

see if that cable assembly is available there.
Good luck.

Tim in Anchorage
67' F-100 (it's Y2K compliant!) =

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:01:06 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights

At 05:35 AM 1/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Count me in on that hot august nights, Renos just a hope skip and a jump...
>
>Mike in Seattle
>
>Art Verling wrote:
>
>> Darrell
>> Sounds like fun. When the time gets here I would be happy to help find
>> places for others to stay. Lodging gets pretty crazy during the event.
>> This will be the first year that I am going to get involved in the
>> event. How do we get the FTE behind this event?
>> Art Verling
>> AV ix.netcom.com
>> 64 F100
>>

I can't do anything in an official capacity since I won't be
able to be there. You are, however, welcome to discuss it on
this list and get the blessing to say you're a gathering of
FTEs (does that make sense?). Wish I could be there. When we
get the club going (its ***really*** close) you can start your
own chapter so long as you have at least 3 people in your area
willing to join. Then it won't be a problem to use the FTE
name for a public gathering so long as you give the club steering
committee prior notice.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:46:23 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Realigning doors / new hinges.

The doors On my companies F-600 were sagging when we got it. We found that
the brass bushings had wallowed out. We just re-peened them, and they've been
working fine ever since. In case your not sure what Im talking about, the
pivot pin goes through theses bushings, not just the other half of the hinge.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:51:12 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights

Sounds real good Ken, But by area do you mean state, or City? Cuz as far as I
know, I'm the only guy in Vegas. I know of 2 (?) in Reno, so I guess that
makes 3 if your areas consist of states. Oh well, We'll hafta see how it
goes. I'm lookin 4ward to it though.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:50:03 -0600
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny cooling

Azie is right about going to the rad.. But if the radiator
does not have the connections don't go out and buy a radiator. $$$$'s

Just take it to a radiator shop and they can braze them into the lower or side
tank or exchange the tank with one that has them. They usually have a pile
of cores out back they can use, at a lot cheaper price then another radiator.

Larry

At 12:30 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
>William Hart writes: >>I need some transmission cooling/engine cooling
info,
>don't think it'll be
>>too difficult. Anyway, I have a 79 F150 460 4x4 with a 3 spd C-6. My
>>tranny fluid keep getting REAL hot, and burning up, breaking seals. The
>>tranny coller seems to be hooked up - 2 lines come from it to the middle
>
>Those transmission lines should not stop at the bellhousing. They should
run to
>the front of the vehicle and enter into the radiator and exit the radiator
(some
>are on bottom at each side and some are on one side - one high and one low.)
>You gotta have cooling or yes you will burn the tranny up. If your truck
>doesn't have these then go look at someones of similar year and similar
>equipment and check it out. (even checking a car will give you a general
idea)
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:11:14 EST
From: "bill comstock"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - liquid wrench, etc.

Hi all,
I have also used several of Zep corporation's products, seems they
cater to utilities. Not sure of the product number, but the one
penetrating spray is amazing to watch in action, it reminds me of the
way you can clean bolts by soaking them in vinegar, only happens before
your eyes leaving a grey film(rust conversion????). Not sure of my
redox reactions but looks like fizzing of peroxide on a cut.

I'm not yet convinced of the merits of synthetic oil: Although though i
agree with the increased longevity of the synthetic, I prefer to change
my oil at the first sign of discoloration, seems that oil that hasn't
been allowed to break down is all that is needed for proper lubrication,
regardless of the chemical origins of the lubricant. This is just my
personal preference. .I do have to concede that the effects of swelling
would come into play regarding older seals. That is the main reason
i've shied away from using synthetics in my '78 F150's 302: lower seals
are original. i run 10w-30 in summer and 5w-30 in winter. Another
thing i use is magnets for drawing particles out of the oil. Maybe i
need to start a project motor to test synthetics--------.

Question---any opinions on what type of sealant to use on machined
aluminum valve covers?

I believe that we should stay away from directories or listings of
members, e-mail miners can be very resourceful. I would think that a
posting for private responses would be more appropriate and concise for
whatever topic being considered.

fire extinguisher ready----

I am glad to have found such a good community here on FTE, the depth of
knowledge continues to amaze me. My hat is off to you Ken!

long live FTE!
bill



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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:01:06 -0600
From: lwblumjr juno.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79- Transmission Cooler

Bill,

A transmission cooler functions best if the transmission line runs
through the cooler in the radiator first and then to the aux.
transmission
cooler and then back to the transmission. Bypassing the radiator
trans. cooler will almost certainly affect the cooling ability of the
aux.
cooler. The purpose of an aux. cooler is to help cool the trans fluid
in addition to what the stock radiator cooler does. Bypassing the
stock radiator cooler is defeating the purpose.

Larry W. Blum, Jr.
lwblumjr juno.com
Pensacola, Fl.

>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:38:32 -0600
>From: William S Hart
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission Cooler
>
>At 04:58 PM 1/24/99 , you wrote:
>>I need some transmission cooling/engine cooling info, don't think
>it'll be
>>too difficult. Anyway, I have a 79 F150 460 4x4 with a 3 spd C-6.
>My
>>tranny fluid keep getting REAL hot, and burning up, breaking seals.
>The
>>tranny cooler seems to be hooked up - 2 lines come from it to the
>middle
>>of the bell housing. Could it be faulty? Or is it attached wrong?
>>
>Are you running your lines against or really near to the exhaust ? I
>would
>check for places that the heat may be getting into the system such as
>this
>... what kind of shape is the tranny in ? maybe its slipping and
>creating
>so much heat the cooler can't dispel it ?
>
>
>
>>My other question is about the radiator, which I just had
>reconditioned.
>> It doesn't seem to want to cool very well, sometimes it does, others
>it
>>doesn't. Could it be that my ignition and timing are off so bad that
>it
>>cools bad too? Or is it the pressure cap? I have a new water pump
>on
>>it, and the hoses are fine. Also, the two fittings at the bottom of
>the
>>radiator, what are they for?
>>
>Have you checked the thermostat ? A sticky one of those can do this
>too ...
>
>As for the two line fittings at the bottom, that's for your standard
>transmission cooler, since you have an external it shouldn't be
>necessary I
>wouldn't think ... though maybe someone else knows for sure ...
>
>
>
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>Bill
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:54:08 -0600
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lockers

I've got a 76 F250 with an open Dana60 frontend. Anyone have any
suggestions on which locker to buy? Any personal experiences? I'd like to
be able to install it myself and also still be able to drive it on the road.
How does each type affect steering (when in 4wd or 2wd)? I guess I'm really
interested in the pros and cons of each type of locker.

Thanks
Brett

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:17:41 -0500
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - shells or skins???

You're right! I was looking at skins! Sorry about that.

- -Ted
- -----Original Message-----
From: Stu Varner
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 8:59 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - shells or skins???


>>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:28:11 -0500
>>From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
>>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Door shells
>>
>>Mac's Antique Auto Parts has them for $59.25 and are for the '67-'72. I
>>think they are one of the advertisers of this site.
>>
>>Later,
>>
>>- -Ted
>
>Ted,
>
>I have never seen door shells for 67-72 models ever listed. However, I
have
>seen door *skins* listed with several obsolete companies for about $59.00
as
>you suggested. Door shells for 73-79 models are listed in either
>Carpenters or Melvins for about $179 I think.
>
>Stu
>Nuke GM!
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:25:42 -0800
From: "Brandt, Chris"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lockers

Brett, I bought a Torsen a few years ago with hopes of putting it in the
front....it was the wrong one so in the rear it went. Works really well,
kinda like the rear axle has a brain. I run a Powerloc in the front with
clutch packs in new condition. I can feel it on ice but it is not repulsive.
I have driven a full size truck with Detroits front and rear and found them
scary in icy conditions. The rock guys will tell you a full locker is the
only way to go but I don't see that many F250's in the rocks.... I would
recomend a Torsen but they are only available used or OEM, the next best bet
is the trutrac which doesn't feel as smooth as the torsen but is better than
a clutch type unit. The best clutch unit is the Powerloc, they use the
torque bias to load the cluth packs which makes them a bit better than the
tracloc. I have no personel experience with the air locker which seems to be
the desired, but way to costly choice these days. Now for the dumb
question...are you sure you have a 60 front end. Or is it a 44 with the big
ends ? The 60's are ultra scarce in that year and I have heard of more than
one guy getting them mixed up. If it is a 44 go with the trutrac.

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Brett Yerks [SMTP:yerk0002 tc.umn.edu]
> Sent:Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:54 PM
> To:61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:FTE 61-79 - Lockers
>
> I've got a 76 F250 with an open Dana60 frontend. Anyone have any
> suggestions on which locker to buy? Any personal experiences? I'd like
> to
> be able to install it myself and also still be able to drive it on the
> road.
> How does each type affect steering (when in 4wd or 2wd)? I guess I'm
> really
> interested in the pros and cons of each type of locker.
>
> Thanks
> Brett
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:39:37 -0600
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lockers

>Now for the dumb
>question...are you sure you have a 60 front end. Or is it a 44 with the big
>ends ? The 60's are ultra scarce in that year and I have heard of more than
>one guy getting them mixed up. If it is a 44 go with the trutrac.
>
>Chris

Yeah, it's for sure a Dana 60, it's been swapped in. ;)
Is the trutrac recommended for the 60 also? Is it available for a 60?

Brett

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:49:53 -0800
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tire Jack for a 66 F100

Hi FTE,
I have a 66 F100 and the tire jack is missing. Were was it stored on the
vehicle and what years would have the same jack and handle?
Tim
66 F100 w/352
3 on the tree w/O.D.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:01:36 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79- Transmission Cooler

All I have on my 351C C4 is an external transmission cooler and I haven't
had any trouble. I'm still running the original '62 radiator with no
tranny inputs. It gets pretty hot here in the summer, too. Maybe my
cooler is larger than standard. I haven't examined it that closely since I
haven't had problems.

I am planning on pulling the old radiator for an overhaul soon. It has a
very small pinhole leak on a seam I can't seem to seal no matter how much
I solder it. Think I should find another radiator with the AT inlets? I
imagine there should be a number of newer radiators that would fit pretty
easily.

Darn. Now you've got me thinking again...$$$$

Thanks for your message at 04:01 PM 1/26/99 -0600, lwblumjr juno.com. Your
message was:
>Bill,
>
>A transmission cooler functions best if the transmission line runs
>through the cooler in the radiator first and then to the aux.
>transmission
>cooler and then back to the transmission. Bypassing the radiator
>trans. cooler will almost certainly affect the cooling ability of the
>aux.
>cooler. The purpose of an aux. cooler is to help cool the trans fluid
>in addition to what the stock radiator cooler does. Bypassing the
>stock radiator cooler is defeating the purpose.
>
>Larry W. Blum, Jr.
>lwblumjr juno.com
>Pensacola, Fl.

Dennis L. Pearson

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:52:34 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Smoil

OK, I replaced the 90wt gear lube in my NP 435 with Pennzoil 50wt engine oil
today and took it for a drive....it really made a big difference!

The "rock crusher" is quieter and shifts both up and down much smoother. In
fact, at 65mph, I can slip it into reverse with no effort at all....well, not
quite.....

Anyway, Marino had the right idea here....again...is this guy ever wrong?

It made such a big difference for me, that now I can hardly wait to try it on
my cereal tomorrow morning!

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:21:09 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Realigning doors / new hinges.

Im going to add to your question, since it just made me think about my
truck. The plate inside the body of the cab where the hinges bolt too, are
messed up on my truck, the bolts are broken off, and I have tried
everything, re-driiling and tapping, cant get the drill started over a
bolt! No way for an easy out to work, too much rust/mud/whatever. So I
figured on replacing the little metal plate, but I cant find a way to get
into the cab, I took off the vent, and couldnt get ito it from that. Is
there any way to fix this besides welding the hinge to the body????

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 01:27 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>I have a '79 F150 that has sagging doors. From looking
>at the hinge bolt locations, it looks impossible to get
>at the hinges without taking off the front fenders. And
>it looks like I'd have to remove the grill (around the
>head lights) and a few other pieces to get the fenders
>off.
>
>I really don't want to dissassemble my entire truck just
>to put some new hinges on the doors. Has anyone done this
>an easier way?
>
>Jeff
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:19:54 EST
From: DR11AGON aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ford f150 supercab 4x4

Hey,
Simple question. I want to put add-a-leafs on the front OE leaf springs to
add height. Can i stack more then one add-a-leaf on top of another? and will
this increase my height over just one set of add-a-leafs?
thanx
Derek
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:26:56 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights

Thanks Ken, getting excited about the club idea...also waiting on my t-shirts
and stickers..

Mike in Seattle

Ken Payne wrote:

> At 05:35 AM 1/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >Count me in on that hot august nights, Renos just a hope skip and a jump...
> >
> >Mike in Seattle
> >
> >Art Verling wrote:
> >
> >> Darrell
> >> Sounds like fun. When the time gets here I would be happy to help find
> >> places for others to stay. Lodging gets pretty crazy during the event.
> >> This will be the first year that I am going to get involved in the
> >> event. How do we get the FTE behind this event?
> >> Art Verling
> >> AV ix.netcom.com
> >> 64 F100
> >>
>
> I can't do anything in an official capacity since I won't be
> able to be there. You are, however, welcome to discuss it on
> this list and get the blessing to say you're a gathering of
> FTEs (does that make sense?). Wish I could be there. When we
> get the club going (its ***really*** close) you can start your
> own chapter so long as you have at least 3 people in your area
> willing to join. Then it won't be a problem to use the FTE
> name for a public gathering so long as you give the club steering
> committee prior notice.
>
> Ken
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:20:01 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ford f150 supercab 4x4

DR11AGON aol.com wrote:

> Hey,
> Simple question. I want to put add-a-leafs on the front OE leaf springs to
> add height. Can i stack more then one add-a-leaf on top of another? and will
> this increase my height over just one set of add-a-leafs?
> thanx
> Derek

Yes and Yes.

Here is the bad side. You can add leaf after leaf after leaf and each one you
add will lift the truck and your ride will get stiffer and stiffer and stiffer.
I once had 17 or so leafs in the rear of my truck. The largest load that I
carried was 3500lbs of rock. total deflection was about 3". The empty ride was
shall we say harsh. An add-a-leaf is 1 thick heavily arched leaf spring that
carries most of the weight of the truck. Put two of them together and you now
have 2 springs carrying most of the weight of the truck. As you add each spring
to the pack the ride will get rougher and rougher. If you considering more than
1 add-a-leaf, you might want to look into a set of lift springs.


- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:09:07 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lockers

i have a standard dana track lock in the front of my 78, and i love it,
lockers won't turn worth a flip with the hubs locked. i do have a detroit
locker in the rear, and i like it, sometimes your bark the inside tire when
turning but its not bad at all in a truck. track locks (clutch type) in the
rear wear out clutches pretty bad with bigger tires than stock.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:43:56 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - AODE

Bill,
Thanks for the link!
Someone had mentioned $1300 for the premier performance "black box". Had me
thinking that by the time a guy spent that much for the controller and then
bought a transmission it would be more practical to just find a complete
later model efi 460 driveline and swap the whole works.
The Baumann TCS sells for $399.....that gets things down to a resonable
level for putting a E4OD behind a 400.

What's the going rate for a junkyard E4OD?

later,
dale c
'79 f-150
351M

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:40:04 -0500
From: Forest New
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Parts truck found!!!

I was scouring the southern Georgia area looking for a parts truck for
my 72 XLT after not getting any reponses from my posts and low and
behold I finally hit pay dirt! I found a f-250 Camper Special 390
4-speed. PB,PS,AC. twin tanks! I thought I would never find one of the
manual dual tank switches for my truck. Im taking all the body for
myself and probably keeping the engine too, but Im going to get rid of
the factory AC in cab unit, sorry the compressor was gone. saddle tank
with sheild and mounting hardware, don't know what else anyone might
need but if you email me we can discuss it.
Question: Did the 390 and 360 share the same crankshaft damper?
Converting a 360 to a 390 wouldn't you also need the flexplate/ flywheel
and harmonic balancer for the 390 crank since your changing the rotating
mass weight?

Forest New
racer23 mindspring.com
72 Ranger XLT
89 Ranger XLT
69 Mach1


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:44:56 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot August Nights

In a message dated 99-01-26 21:38:36 EST, you write:


shirts
and stickers..
>>

Ditto, ordered em as soon as they were available

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:12:34 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Smoil / 300 ignition hop-up

At 07:52 PM 1/26/99 EST, you wrote:
>OK, I replaced the 90wt gear lube in my NP 435 with Pennzoil 50wt engine oil
>today and took it for a drive....it really made a big difference!
>
>The "rock crusher" is quieter and shifts both up and down much smoother. In
>fact, at 65mph, I can slip it into reverse with no effort at all....well, not
>quite.....

Man! You're insane to try to put that tranny in reverse at that kind of
speed!!! 8-)

>Anyway, Marino had the right idea here....again...is this guy ever wrong?

Oh yeah! Quite a bit as a matter of fact!! My diploma says I graduated 543
out of 560!! He he he- that give you a clue?!

>It made such a big difference for me, that now I can hardly wait to try it on
>my cereal tomorrow morning!

Oily-O's? Wonder if they would still float... hmmm.. Maybe we should argue....


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