61-79-list-digest Sunday, January 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 024



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - SAE 50wt. Tanny Lube Debate
FTE 61-79 - RE: 16.5 inch wagon wheels
FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: 16.5 inch wagon wheels
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE Database
FTE 61-79 - 360 to 390 rebuild
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 16.5 inch wagon wheels
FTE 61-79 - Re: Starter Relay
FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79 list GOOD PRICE OR NOT?
Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE Database
FTE 61-79 - J arnolds wheels he wanted
FTE 61-79 - reman parts-kinda long
FTE 61-79 - 61-79 List: Wheels n' Hubcaps
FTE 61-79 - 302 carb problems
FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
FTE 61-79 - FE Oilpan
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Oilpan
FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap
FTE 61-79 - Re: DANA 24 Ratio
RE: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap
FTE 61-79 - Leaf Spring Bushing Installation Q
FTE 61-79 - Re: Truckin Down Under
Re: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE's 2nd anniversary

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:29:51 -0600
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - SAE 50wt. Tanny Lube Debate

Arial
same thing yours did. I suppose I'd

probably spring a few leaks if I just drained it and refilled it with

SAE 50. May try it anyway, what kind of oil did you use?

>>



numbering

system than the gear oil. It just so happens that Engine SAE 50 is the
same

viscosity as Gear SAE 90. But he did change the oil at least every 2
years

and of course his story to me was I've always used gear lube and I do not
have

problems, so there kid.

Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

>>


Okay Big Burt,

I hate to bring this up, *but*, I object!!! SAE 50 wt engine oil and SAE
90 wt gear oil may have the same viscosity - I am not a Chemical
engineer so I won't argue that point. However, here's the poo poo.

I just changed the oil in my 1971 NP 435 tranny after replacing the seals
/ gaskets with the exact part spec *(ESE-M2C39A) Ford Part Number
*(C6TZ-19C547-A) all info from my 1971 Ford owners manual. I talked with
the parts guy at my local Ford dealer. His response matched the owners
manual specs..........you guessed it..............SAE 50 wt engine oil -
which exceeded 1966 part number for the application...........I used
Valvoline 50 wt.


*(1) form number 3651-71-1 (1971 Ford Truck 100 thru 350 & P-Series
Operators Manual)



8^)


Stu

Nuke GM!

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:10:49 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 16.5 inch wagon wheels

Wow! Deja-vu all over again. You getting this Jeff??

Good luck in your search

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net

>Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:22:09 -0500
>From: j arnold

>Hello, i was wondering if anyone has a set of 3 of the "newer" style wagon
>wheels lying around they would be willing to part with...surface rust okay,
>as i plan to sandblast and paint them...need to be 8 lug, 16.5 inch, around
>9.50 wide or so...have a picture of the 1 i have, if anyone is unsure of
>weather they have the "older" style or the "newer" style. thanks.

>- --Bud (son of Stoney)
>1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18
>1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale)

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:15:23 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

My '67 F-100 Ranger 2wd was apparently delivered without paint originally, but now it's an odd mix of Maroon and primer red :-).

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net


Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:01:18 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com

At 08:39 AM 1/22/99 -0500, TBeeee AOL.com wrote:
>..........I am conducting a little informal survey on how many FTE members
>have 1967's and whether or not it's "Holly Green" like mine.
>Please e-mail me privately as I don't know if Ken or the other
>members would appreciate this type of mail traffic on the
>list. Thank you.
>
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:14:10 -0500 Ken Wrote:
>>I wouldn't mind, I have a 67! Ragoon Red.
>>Ken

>>Allright then...its official....let the tally begin......

~~Thom B~~
1967 F-250 4wd

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:32:54 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

- -snip-
>
>
>Seems like a good idea! I have a 65 & a 66 but I thought that it seems a
>good idea to know who, at FTE, has what.
>
>Would it be a good idea if every one that visits FTE could fill out a form
>asking for their model/make/year of Ford truck and then that information
>could be kept in some sort of FAQ or database for viewing by other FTE
>members? That way we know who to ask for help on our particular F100, F150,
>etc., etc.
>
>Just a thought...what do ya think?
>

The club will have a truck registry which should cover most of this.

- -Ken

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:32:38 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: 16.5 inch wagon wheels

Is it like this wheel????? Colorado Jeff is looking for this wheel, it is
different than the ones I have. I have two 16.5 8 lug wheels you can have
for free, just cost of shipping.

Look here for pic of wheel!!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com/co/goldhunter/spoker.html

Let me know. p.s. Jeff is looking for wheels as pictured.


> >From: j arnold
>
> >Hello, i was wondering if anyone has a set of 3 of the "newer" style
> wagon
> >wheels lying around they would be willing to part with...surface rust
> okay,
> >as i plan to sandblast and paint them...need to be 8 lug, 16.5 inch,
> around
> >9.50 wide or so...have a picture of the 1 i have, if anyone is unsure of
> >weather they have the "older" style or the "newer" style. thanks.
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:46:04 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

Will the regestry ty in to the photo album, or have pics with it?

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> From: Ken Payne[SMTP:kpayne ford-trucks.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 1999 8:32 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
>
> -snip-
> >
> >
> >Seems like a good idea! I have a 65 & a 66 but I thought that it seems a
> >good idea to know who, at FTE, has what.
> >
> >Would it be a good idea if every one that visits FTE could fill out a
> form
> >asking for their model/make/year of Ford truck and then that information
> >could be kept in some sort of FAQ or database for viewing by other FTE
> >members? That way we know who to ask for help on our particular F100,
> F150,
> >etc., etc.
> >
> >Just a thought...what do ya think?
> >
>
> The club will have a truck registry which should cover most of this.
>
> -Ken
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:03:14 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

At 08:46 AM 1/23/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Will the regestry ty in to the photo album, or have pics with it?
>

It will be just information, no photos. I've got my hands pretty
full maintaining the web site pictorial. It might be a possibility
though if someone volunteers to do it.

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:47:18 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE Database

Id fill it out, I think its a good idea. Kinda like a member profile on AOL.
It'd also be a good way to find out who is in your area. Ken???

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:07:21 -0600
From: JOHN E DOLSON
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 360 to 390 rebuild

Soon I am going to start rebuilding an engine for my 1976 F150. Since
this is going to be my first rebuild, I have a few questions.

The engine is a 360, but while I'm going to the trouble of rebuilding it,
I'm going to build it as a 390. What different parts will I need to do
this? Where would I get them?
The engine originally had a 4speed , will I need a different flywheel or
anything else to use my c6 auto?
what kind of camshaft should I use, I don't want a racecar, but I do like
power?
Are there any special rebuilding tips for "FE"s you could share with me?

Any help would be appreciated

I'm going to be doing this rebuild in my Highschool autoshop class so
it's likely to take a couple of months. I might not get the engine into
my truck until summer, do you think it's likely the engine I have now
will last till then?

360, 2v
says 95000 miles but I'm thinking probably 195000
taps and vibrates pretty bad
uses or loses about a quart of oil a week
smokes really bad on startup
spits black stuff out of exaust on startup
sometimes smokes blue smoke while Idling

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:08:56 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 16.5 inch wagon wheels

Actually, funny you should mention that. I just sold Jeff 2 of the type
that he is looking for, but i am looking for the other style! hehehe,
get's confusing, doesn't it?!

- --Bud (son of Stoney)
1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18
1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale)

At 08:10 AM 1/23/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Wow! Deja-vu all over again. You getting this Jeff??
>
>Good luck in your search
>
>Drew Beatty
>dcbeatty rmi.net
>
>>Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:22:09 -0500
>>From: j arnold
>
>>Hello, i was wondering if anyone has a set of 3 of the "newer" style wagon
>>wheels lying around they would be willing to part with...surface rust okay,
>>as i plan to sandblast and paint them...need to be 8 lug, 16.5 inch, around
>>9.50 wide or so...have a picture of the 1 i have, if anyone is unsure of
>>weather they have the "older" style or the "newer" style. thanks.
>
>>- --Bud (son of Stoney)
>>1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18
>>1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale)
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:21:31 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Starter Relay

Mark in Southwest Washington wrote:
> Subject: Starter Relay Question

> After reading Bill and Burt's posts I pulled all the wires off
> the relay and measured resistance to ground. One of the small
> terminals measured less than 10 ohms to ground, The other three
> infinite. This must be relay coil.
>
> I then connected the battery cable to the closest big terminal,
> which is not the one next to the coil terminal, and measured
> voltage on the other three. O volts. I used a clip lead to
> energize the relay and could then measure battery voltage on
> all four terminals.
>
> This is one big relay. When I connected the clip lead it
> arc-ed from about a 1/8 inch away and made a loud "clunk" as
> the contact closed. If I measure
> that mean it is drawing more than an amp? Wow.
>
> Anyways, back to my trucks. From what Burt said, the relay
> coil terminal is next to the battery terminal and the battery
> terminal is toward the front of the truck. This would mean the
> relay mounts with the round end up and the one I am doing all
> this measuring on is upside down. Is that right?


With those great diagnosis skills, you don't need our help.
You have it
"dialed" The answer is YES.

- -Marv-
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:01:11 -0800
From: "Jacques and Barbara DeKalb"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79 list GOOD PRICE OR NOT?

I agree that $3500 is probably a lot to pay for the truck as described. In
beautiful, sunny Central Oregon, you can find good, rust free Ford trucks
every day in the range of $1,000 to $2,000. I went through the local
advertiser last night and found three. Personally, I wouldn't buy one for
$3,500 because I would rather spend $1,500 or less on the truck and then
spend the difference on building it the way I wanted. My thoughts on the
subject, anyway.

Jacques, Bend, Ore



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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:26:34 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE Database

At 11:47 AM 1/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Id fill it out, I think its a good idea. Kinda like a member profile on AOL.
>It'd also be a good way to find out who is in your area. Ken???
>
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"

Part of what the club is going to offer is a membership
directory with contact and location information. You'll
be able to omit information from it if you desire. I'm
waiting on approval for the club charter right now.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:40:32 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - J arnolds wheels he wanted

The 16.5 8 lug wheels that J Arnold (stoney ) wanted can be seen at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com/co/goldhunter/jarnold.html

Email him at stoney ford-trucks.com




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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:51:41 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - reman parts-kinda long

Hello listers I thought I might relate this story. As we are all probably
consumers of remanufactured parts, I thought this might help somebody out.

Back in May, I replaced the Bendix power steering gear in my '67 F100. I
got a reman unit from Napa, at the cost of $314. By July, fluid was leaking
out of the top cap around the adjustment nut, and then it began leaking
directly out of the sector shaft seal. I figured it was just bad luck.

So I got another gear ordered on Napa's lifetime warranty, and was able to
put it in the truck on December 28. This gear leaked right away out of the
sector shaft seal. Fluid SPEWED out of it. Needless to say I was pretty
reeked off.

Back to Napa I go. I speak about the problem with the store manager, and he
was pretty apathetic about it. All he offered me was another gear. I
pictured myself doing this 7 or 8 times before I got a decent unit, and
decided it wasn't an option.

As Napa's only function is to sell the parts, I found out the company who
does the rebuilding-- Cardone Industries out of Philadelphia. I found them
on the web, and emailed the Manager of Steering products and their customer
service people. I kept the email firm and angry, but tasteful (i.e. I let
the original email sit for a couple of days and then edited all the violent
threats and cuss words out of it). They called me the next morning from
Philadelphia. They did exactly as I asked them to do in the email---get a
gear, build it, test it, make sure it is 100% perfect, put it in a box,
write my name on the box, and send it to my Napa store.

They were very apologetic, and were more than happy to make it right. Why
they couldn't do it right in the first place is anybody's guess, but I
digress. The first guy I talked to a couple of weeks ago made sure that I
was going to get a gear that didn't leak and functioned perfectly--I just
put it in the truck this week and it doesn't leak yet, and it steers kinda
stiff like a new unit should. So far I'm happy. A week or so later, I heard
from another higher-up manager type guy, who is also going to refund my
money. This guy even asked me if I had submitted any labor costs, so I
assume that if I had, they would have paid that too just to make me happy.

So, I put this out on the list for two reasons: one, these guys stood
behind their stuff, took responsibility and did the right thing, which I
find rare these days. They went out of their way to make sure that I was
taken care of, they always called me back right away when I left phone
messages for them, and they did exactly as I asked as far as getting the
gear to me. Further, I didn't even demand my money back. They just did it
of their own accord. Truthfully, pessimist that I am, I was expecting
nothing but trouble and was preparing to bash them big time on the list. As
they stood up and took care of business, it's only fair that I praise them.

Two: don't put up with shoddy remans. I understand that it's factory work
and their workers are probably pretty low paid and don't care if a seal is
in right or not, but that's not my problem as the consumer. I need quality
stuff for my cash, and this steering gear, for instance, certainly isn't
available new. If you keep getting bad parts, and the parts outlet isn't
willing to do anything for you, jumping right over their heads to whoever
did the reman just might be the solution to the problem.

I guess the moral of the story is, bitch and ye shall receive.

Thanks for letting me rant, and I hope this helps somebody. Please trim
this if you send a response to the list.

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net

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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:23:51 -0800
From: "Jacques and Barbara DeKalb"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 61-79 List: Wheels n' Hubcaps

This is in response to some recent requests for parts.
Stoney: I have two 16.5 by approx 9 inch chrome wheels in the newer spoke
pattern. They are not perfect, but if you are going to sandblast and paint
them, it shouldn't make any difference. I don't know where you are, but if
you can figure out how to get them, you can have them.
John: I have two of the '63 style 15" wheels with tires. Hubcap lugs face
inward, right? I'll trade them to you for a pair of newer stock 15" wheels.
I get to Klamath Falls regularly and could leave them there, or I could come
further sometime when I am down there.
Someone else asked about small stock hubcaps for the early wheels. Sorry I
don't remember your name, I delete the digest after I've printed the tech
stuff. Anyway, I have two sets of the small, flat hubcaps with FORD in the
center and a gear pattern around the edge that fit the wheels described
above. These are argent (silver), not white and red.
E-mail me privately if any of this is what you are looking for.

Jacques, Bend, Ore



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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:20:37 -0500
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 302 carb problems

Thanks to everyone who helped with my previous carb
problems. I ended up swapping the carb of the 79 to
the 77. She fires right up now. The problem that I'm
having now is she idles real fast and when I put it in
gear it stalls out. I've tried to mess with the idle
screws with no luck. I'm sure I have a vacuum line
hooked up wrong or something, but I really don't know
where I need to hook those up. Is there something out
there that makes it bone stupid for someone like me?
TIA

74 F100 RANGER SUPER CAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 EXPLORER SUPER CAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:38:58 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

"myshop" Wrote:

>>Would it be a good idea if every one that visits FTE could fill out a form
>>asking for their model/make/year of Ford truck and then that information
>>could be kept in some sort of FAQ or database for viewing by other FTE
>>members? That way we know who to ask for help on our particular F100, F150,
>>etc., etc.
>>
>>Just a thought...what do ya think?

Ken already has a thorough survey form you may submit from the FTE Home Page.
Posting the data may pose some privacy concerns. I simply want a rough head
count from the 1967 owners in FTE Land. Thanks to everyone who has responded.
Seems there are quite a few of us.

~~Thom B~~
1967 F-250 4WD 390
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:48:01 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

In a message dated 1/23/99 4:38:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, TBeeee writes:

> 61-79-list ford-trucks.com

Just so there is no concerns raised as to my last post in regard to
Privacy---The FTE survey pageorm clearly states "Your name and email address
will not be given out to anyone" as is consistent with my understanding of the
FTE site policy in general re: member information. Some interesting data is
posted there already which I was not aware of...kinda gives you a sense on how
big the FTE list really is.....and in the spirit of celebratory
congratulations....thank you to the hosts of this site for the excellent work
they do.

~~Thom B~~
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:28:07 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Oilpan

Here is a picture Stu Varner sent in of an fe oilpan.
This was in reference to the earlier discussions a few weeks ago. It was
about dipstick location.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com/co/goldhunter/71fepan.html

Rick

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:50:02 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Oilpan

Milodon makes a stock replacement oil pan for the 58-71 390-428. It's
available from PAW for $86.95 + shipping. They also make a deep sump 8 qt.
4X4 pan for $269.95.

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From: Miska, Richard L (Rick)
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 2:33 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Oilpan


>Here is a picture Stu Varner sent in of an fe oilpan.
>This was in reference to the earlier discussions a few weeks ago. It was
>about dipstick location.


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:11:14 -0500
From: "Brook and Katie Bearden"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap

Someone on the list posted that a 400 dist would interchange with a 460
dist. This is not the case as the deck heights are different! A 351C,
429, and a 460 all use the same dist. 351M and 400 use a different dist.

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:15:42 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: DANA 24 Ratio

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:06:42 -0600
ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger) wrote:
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gear Swap

>> I have a 6.68 low and 1.86 reduction in my T-case. Someone a while >>back
(Tony?) said that the Dana 24 high range is actually not 1:1 but slightly
>>underdriven. Does anyone know the ratio?

According to my 1967 Ford 4-Wheel Drive F-100/250 promo brochure, it states:
"F-250 4x4's have a two-speed transfer case (1.86 and 1.00 to 1 ratios)..."

~~Thom B~~
1967 F-250 4WD 390
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:19:43 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap

I am currently running a distributer from a 351m on my 460. Pulled it
myself. Rick

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> From: Brook and Katie Bearden[SMTP:bbearden poseidon.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 1999 4:11 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap
>
> Someone on the list posted that a 400 dist would interchange with a 460
> dist. This is not the case as the deck heights are different! A 351C,
> 429, and a 460 all use the same dist. 351M and 400 use a different dist.
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:20:58 -0800
From: Steve & Rockette Leitch
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap

At 06:11 PM 1/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Someone on the list posted that a 400 dist would interchange with a 460
>dist. This is not the case as the deck heights are different! A 351C,
>429, and a 460 all use the same dist. 351M and 400 use a different dist.
>
BzzzzzT, Sorry thats incorrect. The 351C/M, 400, 429, and 460 use the same
distributor. The deck height on the 351C(9.206) are not even close to the deck
height on a 460(10.322). All they did to make up the difference is cast the
dist mounting pad at the same reference height to the camshaft in all 3
engines......

Steve & the Rockette

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:01:24 -0000
From: "Jeff Carver"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Leaf Spring Bushing Installation Q

Thanks for the responses on the leaf springs
bushing removal. To sum up the responses:
use a flame.

The springs I got from a wrecking yard were
removed my my dad & I, so we know the brute
force, sweat, & blood techniques. A lot
easier to do with a wrecked truck, less to
worry about.

What about installation? Are they pressed in,
just slid in place, or what? Any lube on them?

Jeff
'64 F100 CrewCab





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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:54:10 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Truckin Down Under

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:20:39 -0800, kerr parkes
wrote:
>
> Sorry to Darrell Duggan - whoops! We didn't mean to put you off New
> Zealand, it's a great place to live. There's bound to be heaps of other
> Fordies around, we just live in the wrong place (quite a small town) -
> there's probably heaps of them in the larger cities. We saw an awesome
> display of Ford trucks in a hot rod show a while ago but we have no idea
> where they all went to (not here anyway). We took our '75 down to
> Christchurch (approx 400 miles away) to a Ford show, there were Fords
> for miles - but not one of our year, mostly cars or earlier trucks, 50's
> to 60's. But we might advertise and see if we can't pull some truckies
> out of hiding. It must be great over there, we can only hope one day
> we'll get to the F100 Supernationals.

Nice to hear from somebody down there. I had family in NZ, in Temuka
until they moved here. Still, I'd like to go back someday. Also nice
to hear that you live on the South Island. Perhaps I should look you up
when I go. Maybe I should take a boat ride over with my '61 F-100 4x4!
I'd be interested in seeing you at the SuperNats if you were to take the
boat this way. Tell us, what nifty things did NZ Fords get that
American ones didn't?

Birken
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:46:54 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap

Best check your facts 'fore you post. There's allot of good info on Ford
engines at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/cleveland.html

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brook and Katie Bearden
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 3:12 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400 / 460 distributor swap


>Someone on the list posted that a 400 dist would interchange with a 460
>dist. This is not the case as the deck heights are different! A 351C,
>429, and a 460 all use the same dist. 351M and 400 use a different dist.
>


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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:05:10 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE's 2nd anniversary

>Someone just sent me an email asking me about FTE's 2nd
>anniversary. The earliest archived email I have is from
>January 16, 1997
>first archiving of email so that means our anniversary
>is on January 2.

Has it been 2 years? Man time flies! Though our members are great, the
success of FTE is do to your leadership Ken. Thank you bro! You are more
than just a friend.
Yes, I have been berry berry busy lately. I have been told they will not
start on the house for another month. then it will take 5 to 6 months to
complete. They're trying to find a house for us to stay in but there aren't
many people willing to do a short term rent without strings. Most want us to
show the house for them. That's not something I'm willing to do. Only
because I don't like insurance companies. I paid for the coverage and I'm
not giving them any breaks. Plus, I just don't have the time.
I couldn't take not having a garage so I turned on the electricity to
the garage at the house. They told me I wasn't allowed to use it but I'm....


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