61-79-list-digest Saturday, January 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 023



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Proportionong valve trouble
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dura Spark II
Re: FTE 61-79 - Question about Unibody truck
FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
FTE 61-79 - 400/460 distributor swap?
FTE 61-79 - guess it's my turn
Re: FTE 61-79 - 240 cu. in.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
Re: FTE 61-79 - Question about Unibody truck
Re: FTE 61-79 - 400/460 distributor swap?
Re: FTE 61-79 - GOOD PRICE OR NOT??
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE engine parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
Re: FTE 61-79 - SAE 50 gear lube
FTE 61-79 - Yes, it is time for Congrats
FTE 61-79 - Duraspark Query
FTE 61-79 - FE 4X4 Oil Pan
FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-digest - 240 cu. in. inline
FTE 61-79 - Re: Starter Relay Question
FTE 61-79 - Re: FE 4x4 Oil Pan Search
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: FTE's 2nd anniversary
Re: FTE 61-79 - GOOD PRICE OR NOT?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Congratulations
Re: FTE 61-79 - Yes, it is time for Congrats
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Synthetic Oil
Re: FTE 61-79 - guess it's my turn
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE engine parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Yes, it is time for Congrats
FTE 61-79 - 16.5 inch wagon wheels
FTE 61-79 - SAE 50 WT Engine Oil
Re: FTE 61-79 - SAE 50 gear lube
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners
Re: FTE 61-79 - Question about Unibody truck
FTE 61-79 - Truckin Down Under

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:28:15 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Proportionong valve trouble

Ok folks, I'm in Dire need. Tweety's proportioning valve decided to go out
today. I need one bad, but I dont want to pay the 175 that the dealer wants.
I need you!!!!
I'm lookin for the valve for a 74 F-350, 2wd, auto, and I have a part#.
d4tz2b257a
If any of you can help, or have one PLEASE let me know. TIA

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety" (temporarily perched)
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:27:45 -0800
From: Steve & Rockette Leitch
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dura Spark II

At 08:01 AM 1/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>1978 Ford F-150 351M Symptoms: Runs good at 16 below but runs ragged
at 40
>>and rainy until completely up to temperature. Voltage at coil with engine
>>off/ignition switch on was 8 volts. With engine running was 12 volts. Gone
>>through 3 coils in 5 years. Would appreciate any help.
>
>Hmmm...it shouldn't be 12 volts I don't think, sounds like the ballast
>might be out ?

Sounds like the wires on the selonoid are hooked up wrong, the wiring
to the coil should be 12V when you're cranking it' then drop to 6-8V
when running.....

Steve & the Rockette


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:28:07 -0800
From: Steve & Rockette Leitch
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Question about Unibody truck

>>2) Are they considered unpopular by most truck enthusiasts? I haven't
>>seen any at shows
>I don't know about unpopular. I find that people who know about them or
>who get one, like them. There was a discussion awhile back on FTE that
>surprised me in the sense that so many FTE's didn't know much about them.

The biggest "problem" the Unibodies had was the bed floor at the cab
was the first place they rusted away. If the truck you're looking to buy
is in good shape in that area, buy it.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:01:18 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

At 08:39 AM 1/22/99 -0500, TBeeee AOL.com wrote:
>..........I am conducting a little informal survey on how many FTE members
>have 1967's and whether or not it's "Holly Green" like mine.
>Please e-mail me privately as I don't know if Ken or the other
>members would appreciate this type of mail traffic on the
>list. Thank you.
>
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:14:10 -0500 Ken Wrote:
>>I wouldn't mind, I have a 67! Ragoon Red.
>>Ken

Allright then...its official....let the tally begin......

~~Thom B~~
1967 F-250 4wd
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:02:32 EST
From: Boon40 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400/460 distributor swap?

Hey Guys,
Can i swap my distributor from my 78 400 to my 70 model 460? The 460 has
points and i want to use my jacobs ignition system on the 460. By the way, the
jacobs system does not do what it says it will do. Don't waste your money on
one. Thanks, Boon
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:51:16 -0500
From: "Mike & Carrie Elmer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - guess it's my turn

Hi to all,I've been reading all the congrats posts so I'll jump in here and
take a turn.In '95 I was run over by a semi on my Harley,up to that point
all I ever knew was how to restore antique bikes.Pretty good too.Then all
that came to an abrupt halt in about 40 seconds.With the purchase of my'69
Custom Cab C/S all I knew was where to put the key.Then I discoverd the LIST
and was a born again restoration guy,a little slower but I can still do
it.My point to all this is,this group is the most helpful and knowledgeable
bunch I've come across in a long time.I also made some friends and bought
some parts mostly from the names that have already been mentioned.But most
of the thanks go's to the Paynes for making it and keeping it happen.As
always THANKS. Mike Elmer

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:55:08 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 240 cu. in.

In a recent issue of MM or F&M there was an article on hopping up
6's. Also Mr. FOMOCO at FOMOCO.COM has a collection of articles on
the topic that he'll sell you for $10 postage paid. Just tell him Tim
Bowman sent you (I don't get a commission!).

Hope this helps.

Tim Bowman
71 F100 360
65 Mustang 6 cylinder
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:06:44 -0800 (PST)
From: brian michael logan
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

~Thom B~ (and all interested)

Add one more '67 to the list.

I really enjoy this group. I've been lurking for a few weeks now and have
run across some new solutions to my old problems. Thanks everyone. I
bought a 1967 F-100 2WD SWB back in 1986 (while in high school) for $800.
Straight and original, It's a 240 I-6 with a four speed. Manual steering,
manual transmission, manual air. It's the best truck I've ever had...
probably why I still have it.

And Thom... It's an old US Forest Service truck, so it's green. Not
factory green, but USFS green. I'll try to get a photo posted soon.

Keep up the good work.. Kudos to the ADMIN.

-- Brian Logan
'67 F-100 SWB
'68 F-100 Stepside
(Both I-6)
_____________________________________________________________________________
B r i a n M i c h a e l L o g a n




> At 08:39 AM 1/22/99 -0500, TBeeee AOL.com wrote:
> >..........I am conducting a little informal survey on how many FTE members
> >have 1967's and whether or not it's "Holly Green" like mine.
>
> Allright then...its official....let the tally begin......
>
> ~~Thom B~~
> 1967 F-250 4wd
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm




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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:18:14 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Question about Unibody truck

Robert Hill wrote:

> I am looking at a 63 Ford Unibody that a friend has for sale. I am not
> extremely familiar with the unibodied trucks and was wondering a fw
> things;
>
> 1) I assume while not extremely rare, that they are not readily available
> so I wonder about parts availability for the unique areas of the truck

Extremely rare, not really but they are not as common as the regular cab
trucks. The small widow is the standard. If it was the wrap around big
window you might have something a little more exclusive.

>
> 2) Are they considered unpopular by most truck enthusiasts? I haven't
> seen any at shows

I still have my eye out for one. They would make a cool street truck.

>
> 3) What is the typical value of a unibody, small rear window, 6 cylinder,
> 3 speed , running but needing total restoration? I know this is a loaded
> question, but a ball park would do

That answered part of 1. I'm not going to even try to put a $ on it. It is
kind of like it you really want it the price doesn't matter. I wouldn't go
out on a limb to get it. Not seeing it either doesn't help much.

>
> 4) Anything about the unibody that I should be aware of verses a standard
> PU of the same vintage?

Someone mentioned rust inside the cab and that can go for al 61-64 trucks.
The big problem with the unibodies that I have seen are between the cab and
bed. The body is of a ridgid construction while the frame is allowed to
flex. The first thing you will see is small cracks in the metal and eventual
tearing if used continuouly off road or extreme conditions where the body is
forced to flex. The force of twisting can also wrinkle the side pannels of
the bed. Give it that wavy texture. Like I said I keep my eye out for one
for a street project. Some one else talked about putting it on a 4x4
chassis. I think that would look cool (show truck) but wouldn't last very
long if used hard. A nice metallic paint job, chrome grill and door handles,
front and rear sway bars, air suspension, 351C, C6, 3.55LS gears 17" wheels
and your choice of tires.

>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
> Bob
>
> Robert Hill

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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon
ICQ# 19575234

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:22:05 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 400/460 distributor swap?

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Yyyyyyeeeeesssss.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Boon40 aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 5:11 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400/460 distributor swap?


>Hey Guys,
> Can i swap my distributor from my 78 400 to my 70 model 460? The 460
has
>points and i want to use my jacobs ignition system on the 460. By the way,
the
>jacobs system does not do what it says it will do. Don't waste your money
on
>one. Thanks, Boon


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:19:12 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GOOD PRICE OR NOT??

I don't the price is even in the relevant range. About $1,500 may be
right depending upon body condition.

To give some perspective, if you were in the Seattle area I would sell
you a stock 68 Ranger with a reman 360 (probably a 390 but I can't
prove it barring a full teardown) with less than 20K, a chassis with
125k, automatic, factory chrome rear bumper, great tires (traction in
the rear), P/S, manual brakes, passed emissions, sea foam green in
color, needs some right side body work due to an unfortunate incident,
no cancer rust, nice appearing truck. Driveable anywhere. All of this
for $1,100, firm. It was my Dad's truck and it's an estate situation.
If interested contact me offlist.

I would keep the truck as it has many sentimental memories, but I
already have a decent 71 F100. I considered pulling the engine/tranny
but I decided the truck is too good to part out and I don't want to
store the engine/tranny.

Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
71 F100 & many other Fomoco's
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:22:22 EST
From: LouviersFr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE engine parts

Try PAW (Performance Automotive Warehouse) in california. Their catalog is
about $6 or $7 but well worth it.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:25:14 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

Heh...heh...manual air, that's pretty good.

- -----Original Message-----
From: brian michael logan
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners


>
>~Thom B~ (and all interested)
>
>Add one more '67 to the list.
>
>I really enjoy this group. I've been lurking for a few weeks now and have
>run across some new solutions to my old problems. Thanks everyone. I
>bought a 1967 F-100 2WD SWB back in 1986 (while in high school) for $800.
>Straight and original, It's a 240 I-6 with a four speed. Manual steering,
>manual transmission, manual air. It's the best truck I've ever had...
>probably why I still have it.


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:38:48 -0700
From: "bertolin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SAE 50 gear lube

It's probably time to change the oil in the 3 speed manual tranny on my 1965
as I have no idea when the previous owner last changed it. The owner's
manual calls for "Rotunda standard transmission lube". Would this be SAE 50
engine oil or 90 W gear oil?
Thanks in advance, Roberta with 1965 custom cab

>
> probably spring a few leaks if I just drained it and refilled it with
> SAE 50. May try it anyway, what kind of oil did you use?

>>>>>snip

>The reason Ford and others say to use SAE 50 engine oil is that the gear
oils have a sulfur >compound that you can smell and it attacks the bronze
and brass parts in the tranny. But, >as you can see it does not cause your
tranny to fall apart immediately, primarily it attacks >the syncro rings and
tabs making them brittle.


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:11:19 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Yes, it is time for Congrats

Who can forget someone who does the whoops at 80 mph!!! Actually I'm a
little worried about you :-)

> member tuut sweet. I'm glad I'm here, and I think some of you are too. I was
> quite surprised to see my name mentioned by Mr Ballinger. Ok Time to cut this
> off, but thanks to Ken, Peggy, Azie, Sleddog, Dave R, all the Bills, CO Jeff,
> and Stu (cant forget Stu, NUKE GM right?) and everyone else out there. Yall
> are great!
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:24:53 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Duraspark Query

Doesn't the Duraspark run 12V in the primary? I don't know much about
the Duraspark, but Brand X ignitions carry 12V. Can anyone enlighten
me? I'm considering an ignition upgrade, if it carries 12V you'd
definitely want to bypass the original ignition wiring if it contains a
resistor wire wouldn't you?

> Hmmm...it shouldn't be 12 volts I don't think, sounds like the ballast
> might be out ? I don't know for sure, but the other problem you describe
> is symptomatic of a leaky connection. It sounds like the box might be
> letting the dampness in, you might try a different box and see if things
> improve. Since at 16below its pretty dry (the air that is) and at 40 and
> rainy its pretty moist, I'd bet that you are just getting condensation in
> there. My old GT used to do this .. actually idled at 50 RPM once! Yep,
> between 0 and the first notch on the tach.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:38:03 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE 4X4 Oil Pan

$75-$100 is the going rate around here too.

> If you found somebody who will take $75, and its in good shape, you might be
> better off to bite the bullet and pick it up. These pans have been
> discontinued by Ford, and are difficult to find. You might try to see if
> Milidon or someone like this make one, they seem to make quite a few "stock"
> units....
>
> Colorado Jeff
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:53:23 EST
From: IRLobuck aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-digest - 240 cu. in. inline

You are in luck. Everything you need to know, and all of the support you need
is in Inliners International club. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://inliners.org/ I've been a member
for 2 years and I really dig it. They have a great newsletter, and the
membership roster put you in touch with other inliners with the answers.
Yeah, I use Clifford stuff on my inlines. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cliffordperformance.com
What part of the country are you in? Good luck, and stay inline.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:30:45 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Starter Relay Question

After reading Bill and Burt's posts I pulled all the wires off
the relay and measured resistance to ground. One of the small
terminals measured less than 10 ohms to ground, The other three
infinite. This must be relay coil.

I then connected the battery cable to the closest big terminal,
which is not the one next to the coil terminal, and measured
voltage on the other three. O volts. I used a clip lead to
energize the relay and could then measure battery voltage on
all four terminals.

This is one big relay. When I connected the clip lead it
arc-ed from about a 1/8 inch away and made a loud "clunk" as
the contact closed. If I measure
that mean it is drawing more than an amp? Wow.

Anyways, back to my trucks. From what Burt said, the relay
coil terminal is next to the battery terminal and the battery
terminal is toward the front of the truck. This would mean the
relay mounts with the round end up and the one I am doing all
this measuring on is upside down. Is that right?

Mark in Southwest Washington
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'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:33:31 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FE 4x4 Oil Pan Search

Colorado Jeff wrote:
> If you found somebody who will take $75, and its in good shape,
> you might be better off to bite the bullet and pick it up.

I think you're right. When the guy told me I couldn't have the
pan, he said he would look for one and to call him back today.
When I called he said he couldn't find one but if I give him $75
up front, he would pull the motor and I could then have the pan
so I am going back tomorrow.

Mark in Southwest Washington
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'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:35:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: FTE's 2nd anniversary

At 05:40 AM 1/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Congratulations, Ken! Looking forward to as many more years as you will
>give us!
>

When I die they'll have to pry my fingers from my FTE
keyboard.

Ken

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:40:12 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GOOD PRICE OR NOT?

i have a friend here in georgia that has a good 69 for sale 390, 4v, alum
valve covers, dp distributor, power steering, ac, automatic and i think power
brakes, the truck is very solid and straight, but the paint is faded, he's
asking 2000.00 for it. it is a lwb.
if anyone is interested email me.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:39:02 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Congratulations

At 10:51 AM 1/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Ken and Peggy and all my good friends here,
>
>Thank you for all of the hard work you have put in on this list. I can
>honestly say there is nothing like it in any genre on the Internet. The
>diversity of communicants is unmatched by any forum on the planet. We
>have just about every occupation, type of personality, and type of
>experience represented here among our friends.

Thank you!

>I had to leave the list for a while because of work(I went on a
>whirlwind crusade to try to save our division, HA, HA ) and man I missed
>it! It's funny, I have a mental picture of most of you and I wondered
>what you were up to. Is Darrell going to take Tweety across the Grand
>Canyon? Is John Strauss still fighting down in Texas? Is Azie going to
>put Daimler in his e-mail address? Is Dr. Hess still scooping out
>brains? Where's Deacon? Does everybody have their FE pushrods in
>order?

Everyone is still here. Deacon still jumps in with a comment every
now and then to lighten up the mood. He's had a lot going on with
the house fire.

>The information and discussion on this list is as good as it gets. We
>all contribute something, whether it be information or humor. Ken and
>Peggy, I can't say enough about what you've done here. I hope my next
>job affords me some spare time to contribute more to the list (in a
>helping capacity, I don't seem to have a problem writing stuff)and
>eventually to the club. I'd be looking forward to it.

Isn't it amazing where this has all gone? I never expected more
than 100 list members!


Ken

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:40:53 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yes, it is time for Congrats

- -snip-
>to put this together. Everywhere I go I spread the word of FTE. I've introd
>new members, first person I can think of is Wayne Foy. We were talkin Fords
>for awhile, and as soon as I found FTE, I mailed him a link and he was a
>member tuut sweet. I'm glad I'm here, and I think some of you are too. I was
>quite surprised to see my name mentioned by Mr Ballinger. Ok Time to cut this
>off, but thanks to Ken, Peggy, Azie, Sleddog, Dave R, all the Bills, CO Jeff,
>and Stu (cant forget Stu, NUKE GM right?) and everyone else out there. Yall
>are great!
>
>Thanks
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"

I'm hoping I can see the whole gang at Pigeon Forge and get to meet
many newer members too. That F100 show is incredible.

Ken

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:44:48 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Synthetic Oil

i checked my mileage today and it seemed to improve by approx. 2mpg and that
was pulling a piece of equipment, i can get a more accurate estimate after a
few tank fulls. i put about 500 miles a week on it without pulling anything.
and today just happen to be one of those days i had to tow something.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:44:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - guess it's my turn

At 08:51 PM 1/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi to all,I've been reading all the congrats posts so I'll jump in here and
>take a turn.In '95 I was run over by a semi on my Harley,up to that point
>all I ever knew was how to restore antique bikes.Pretty good too.Then all
>that came to an abrupt halt in about 40 seconds.With the purchase of my'69
>Custom Cab C/S all I knew was where to put the key.Then I discoverd the LIST
>and was a born again restoration guy,a little slower but I can still do
>it.My point to all this is,this group is the most helpful and knowledgeable
>bunch I've come across in a long time.I also made some friends and bought
>some parts mostly from the names that have already been mentioned.But most
>of the thanks go's to the Paynes for making it and keeping it happen.As
>always THANKS. Mike Elmer
>

Real bummer about the bike. I've been in two bike accidents.
One of them was actually a caged cop doing about 70 in a 35.
He came out of nowhere and I ditched it to get out of his
way. He never even slowed down. Are you going to the Pigeon
Forge show this year?

Ken

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:47:31 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE engine parts

summit and jegs both can get the fe parts, they just don't list them in the
catalog because they are becoming more and more extinct for performance use.
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:22:56 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yes, it is time for Congrats

In a message dated 1/22/99 8:49:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, kpayne ford-
trucks.com writes:


newer members too. >>

As much as I'd love to go, and believe me I'd sell an arm if I thought it
would help, I aint gonna make it. I just live to far away for it to be
practical this time around. But I will be there in Spirit. On the way there
just think of me everytime some wacko passes you on the freeway at 120+ with
no turn signal. Just kiddin folks, but I am lookin forward to new photos,
stories, and hopefully a club to be started. I'd really like to see that
happen. I'd also like to see some events head my way, although I think Hot
August nights is the closest I ever get. These folks just have no taste here.
If it isnt lowered, covered in metallic paint, sporting wire wheels and
hydraulics, it isnt worthy. Darn it I'm ramblin again. See ya

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:22:09 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 16.5 inch wagon wheels

Hello, i was wondering if anyone has a set of 3 of the "newer" style wagon
wheels lying around they would be willing to part with...surface rust okay,
as i plan to sandblast and paint them...need to be 8 lug, 16.5 inch, around
9.50 wide or so...have a picture of the 1 i have, if anyone is unsure of
weather they have the "older" style or the "newer" style. thanks.

- --Bud (son of Stoney)
1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18
1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale)

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:36:38 -0600 (CST)
From: VARNERS ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us
Subject: FTE 61-79 - SAE 50 WT Engine Oil

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:36:33 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SAE 50 gear lube

Would this 50 weight be the proper lubrication for a 71 F100 with a
truck 4 speed? I'm considering changing the gear oil.

Thanks for your help.

Tim Bowman
71 F100
Burien, WA
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:52:59 -0600
From: "myshop"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Calling All 1967 Owners

>>I am conducting a little informal survey on how many FTE >>members have
1967's and whether or not it's "Holly Green" like >>mine.

>>
>>Please e-mail me privately as I don't know if Ken or the other
>>members would appreciate this type of mail traffic on the
>>list. Thank you.
>>
>On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:14:10 -0500 Ken Wrote:
>>>I wouldn't mind, I have a 67! Ragoon Red.
>>>Ken
>
> Allright then...its official....let the tally begin......


Seems like a good idea! I have a 65 & a 66 but I thought that it seems a
good idea to know who, at FTE, has what.

Would it be a good idea if every one that visits FTE could fill out a form
asking for their model/make/year of Ford truck and then that information
could be kept in some sort of FAQ or database for viewing by other FTE
members? That way we know who to ask for help on our particular F100, F150,
etc., etc.

Just a thought...what do ya think?

+
+al+ (65/66 F100)

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:58:56 -0600
From: "myshop"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Question about Unibody truck

>> 4) Anything about the unibody that I should be aware of verses a
standard
>> PU of the same vintage?
>
>The big problem with the unibodies that I have seen are between the cab and
>bed. The body is of a ridgid construction while the frame is allowed to
>flex. The first thing you will see is small cracks in the metal and
eventual
>tearing if used continuouly off road or extreme conditions where the body
is
>forced to flex. The force of twisting can also wrinkle the side pannels of
>the bed. Give it that wavy texture.

About that uni-body, I was talking to someone who told me that the unibody
was made specially for the utility companies and when they would go into the
ditch and 'twist' - the rear windows would pop-out and that was the main
reason they stopped making them. (Just what a friend said)

+
+al+ (65/66 F100)

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