61-79-list-digest Thursday, January 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 002



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 61-79 - Frame Running Gear Swap?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Premier Performance email address??
Re: FTE 61-79 - 292 Intake Manifold Q's
FTE 61-79 - door seals and tailgate paint
FTE 61-79 - Steering parts
FTE 61-79 - Tailgates
Re: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4X4 Steering Shaft
FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion
FTE 61-79 - Frame ID #?
FTE 61-79 - gasoline filler hose
FTE 61-79 - 302 heads on a 351W
FTE 61-79 - '67 F100
Re: FTE 61-79 - '67 F100
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates
FTE 61-79 - Crewcab frame wheels
Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame ID #?
FTE 61-79 - 62 windshields
FTE 61-79 - 460 swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 windshields
FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock H2O Pump
FTE 61-79 - 427
Re: FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock H2O Pump
Re: FTE 61-79 - 427
FTE 61-79 - c6 wannabes
FTE 61-79 - Holes
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap
FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 460
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering parts
FTE 61-79 - Re: Steering Shaft
Re: FTE 61-79 - gasoline filler hose
FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 parts interchanges
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - 427
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 460
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 460
FTE 61-79 - questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - questions

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:12:10 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Frame Running Gear Swap?

My dad put a 1966 body on a 79 3/4 4x4 running gear. As for the difference
in the rear fenderwell position, he cut the box, moved the well (back or
forward, I dont remember) and redid the fender lip. It looks stock, but it
aint. While he had the cab off, he replaced the rusty cabmounts. Rather
than buying new ones, he made his own, and made them so it lifted the cab 3
inches. Its nice, no body blocks. As for the column, he put in a late
model tilt column. He has no trouble fabricating/adapting stuff, and is
real picky about doing things the right way, and safe, and looking stock
even though it may not be.

Also, a note for you guys that do body lifts on 1966 and similar body
styles: Not sure what its called, but, that piece of metal that goes across
the front of the truck below the grill, and bolts to the bottom of the
fenders, Ford used a taller one for the bigger trucks (f500 maybe?) with the
widend front fenders. It bolts up the same way, covers up the gap between
the frame and bottom of grill, not too hard to find one in junkyard. I
can take a picture in the next week or so if anybody wants one to see what I
mean. Sorry about the long note. Did some snipping.
Colorado Rick

> > If I want to convert a 65 F100 2WD to a 4WD truck, what are my
> > options as far as years of trucks to look as donors for the frame
> > and running gear?
>
> As far as the cab is concerned you can go all the way up to 79 but you
> will
> have a problem with the bed between 73-79 as the frame width is wider in
> the back. One project I was going to do was a 65 on a 77 F-150 frame and
> running gear. That was before time and money ran out :(
>
> Almost everything on the 65 will bolt right up to the newer stuff. The
> only thing that will need modification will be the steering colunm. From
> what I remember the brake booster and other wiring bolted or pluged right
> in. Even the clutch rod was in the correct place. I just found a 75
> F-250
> 4x frame and running gear in a local yard. Now if I can only find a clean
> 65-66 cab.....
>
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 06:28:05 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Premier Performance email address??

Check out his:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.baumannengineering.com/tcs.htm

They make a controller for the E4OD.
-srw
Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'98 HD FXD Super Glide
'78 Monarch
'65 F100


>Azie,
>Awhile back someone mentioned that Premier Performance built a black box so
>you can run a E4OD without the EEC computer. I ran a web search without
any
>luck, if they have any web presence or email I couldn't find it.
>Good luck!
>dale c
>


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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:36:19 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 292 Intake Manifold Q's

>Rookie error number two was also found during
>this exam. I had failed to remove the cover
>over the sticky stuff on the gasket. I had
>never seen a gasket come with sticky stuff,
>so didn't notice.
>
I'm not sure I'd call this a rookie error, I'd never seen this before
either, but my last gasket had it on there. Guess what ... didn't work,
not sticky enough ... course it was barely above 0 ...

Bill in balmy 24F w/snow
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:10:52 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - door seals and tailgate paint

Hey John,

Glad to see you back on board...

I did the same as you with the JCW door seals....keep an eye on them and let
us know how they go. Mine started cracking in about 6-8 months....so I ended
up replacing them again, but this time with seals from Obsolete Ford....

Lets hope they hold out!

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:04:33 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering parts

Yo Colorado Jeff>> You write: >>

SP 10-4-431-SX (yoke w/splines)
SP 10-4-13 (yoke w/threaded hole)
SP 5-170X (greasable U-joint)

What type parts house did you find that carried a Spicer parts catalogue???
I really need to know. I seem to have the same problem.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:13:06 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates

John LaG. writes: >>Did Ford ever put on a quick release
tailgate like GM from the mid 70s on? On my 76, 79, and 83 GMCs I could
take the tailgate off in about 30 seconds.

Don't the Ford tailgates come off this way: Slightly open tailgate -
remove the metal side folding contraptions(they have a slot to come off
the stud thing sticking out from the outer portion of tailgate) that hold
the tailgate level with bed when down - lower tailgate almost all way and
lift the front - and bingo - it is in your hands-??????

Shouldn't take more than 1 miniute, and probably less If I remember
correctly ...

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:28:21 -0700 (MST)
From: Scott Richmond
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4X4 Steering Shaft

Hi Colorado Jeff,

A while back I found a 76 F250 4X4 being parted out and grabbed the
steering shaft with u-joint for my 71 F100 4X4. Both the donor truck and
mine do not have power steering. Does your truck have power steering?
I'm just wondering if the Spicer part numbers might be different. Also
what did you use the yoke with splines for, does it attach on the other
side of the u-joint ie. coming out of the fire wall?

I sure would like to fix this permanently since the one I put in from the
76 likely won't last too long.

Thanks for your help,
Scott

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:30:53 -0500 (EST)
From: James Craig
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion

Well, I finally did it--well at least started to do it... Ever since I
bought my '77 Supercab 2WD, I have wished I could make her into a four-by.
And now as I get into tougher trails, I wish I was the one helping my
buddies up the hills. A few months ago, Off Road Magazine did a story on
swapping the frame innards of a 4X4 into a 4X2 Supercab w/a 460. That
sparked my interest, and I finally found a derelict '76 F100 4X4 in the
local boneyard that was all up for grabs--less the Xfer case and the front
driveshaft :-( I plan to have stronger driveshafts made, so the missing
front is not a problem, but two questions:

- --What does a NP205 go for $$ ??

- --Can the 2WD tailshaft on a C6 be substituted for the 4WD tailshaft?

Thanks

Jimbo
'77 Supercab 466
Closer to 4WD

It's never as easy as the magazines make it look!!

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 10:06:24 -0800
From: Jason Eaton
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Frame ID #?

Where on a the 65-72 trucks are the ID# that identifies the frame? I
have heard
two or three different answers on this one. Supposedly near the front
bumper and under
the cab are two locations.

Also does anybody have a quick break down of how to disect this number?
( ie. year, model,
4WD/2WD )

Thanks.

- --
Jason Eaton
jeaton cybersource.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:25:46 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - gasoline filler hose

I finally read all of the back digests, but now can't remember exactly who
was doing what. I do remeber that someone was going to be replacing their
gas tank filler hose in addition to whoever was working on this project
currently.

Don't use radiator hose. It will deteriorate very quickly. FoMoCo doesn't
make the fuel filler hoses anymore or at least my dealer didn't have them
for my 79 back in about 92. Gasoline hose that size can be acquired at any
good parts house, but it will be in a straight run, usually sold by the
foot. At that time my HiLo would cut it off in the desired length to the
nearest foot. Figure out how much you will need, then add a little extra.
After you get your new piece of hose, go to a muffler shop with it and your
old hose. Tell them you want a piece of exhaust pipe that will just fit
inside the new hose bent to the angle of the old hose. If you are in doubt,
get them to bend you a couple of pieces. A ten foot piece of exhaust pipe
shouldn't be more than $5 or $6. Don't worry about overall length of the
metal pipe at this point, that's what ye olde hack saw is for. Get four
stainless steel hose clamps. Saw off one exhaust bend to what you think is
right. Cut your hose runs to length remembering that one has to slip far
enough down and back to complete the run. Put a split piece of the old hose
across the frame as a cushion. Don't let metal rub on metal. Clamp it all
together. I did this to my front tank three years ago and it works
wonderfully.

Tim Bowman suggested exhaust tubing also. The flexible type will probably
work well, but the little corrugations will allow gasoline to puddle and
may create corrosion problems in some climates. Don't try to simply take a
straight piece of the gasoline hose and force bend it around the frame. It
will take you the better part of half an hour to pump your tank full. Ask
me how I know.

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:32:51 -0600
From: "Smith, Brian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 302 heads on a 351W

I'm doing this because I can get the heads for FREE so I don't neeed
everyone telling me don't do it. I know you can do the reverse (ie 351W
heads on a 302) by using longer head bolts. Should I used shorter bolts for
the reverse.

Brian H. Smith
1959 TR3
1972 Spitfire IV
1977 TR7
Lake Charles, LA

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:13:21 -0700
From: John & Iva McKay
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '67 F100

Hey guys,

I've seen a lot of good info from you guys and hope
you can help me. Here's the story:

I own a '67 352 F100 Custom Cab. Engine went bad so I
bought a remanufactured 360 and stuck her in. While I was
in the process I decided to do it right and increase my
chances of success, so nothing old went back on the truck.
Every nut and bolt and accessory is new from top to bottom.
I also decided to go "pointless" and installed a stock
'75 HEI distributor, coil and module. Splitfire plugs
(gapped at 42)and new wires. A tach. (okay i didn't need it,
but i wanted it) New carb. I installed the carb out of the box making no
adjustments.

Here's the problem. Fired it up, timed it by "feel" since I
couldn't find any timing info. (books say to refer to the decal
I don't have) and it seemed to run pretty good for about 50 miles.
Then I took it on the freeway and ran it pretty good. Too good I
guess as I bent a pushrod. Read the tech article on FE's and bent
pushrods, followed their install procedure and had no problem.

Haven't been able to get this thing to run smooth yet. Tried going back
to my old gap and timing (32 and 6 btdc) and seemed a little better.
Took it to a shop and they plugged the port at the rear of the carb
riser plate (which I had always hooked up to my PCV valve) and told me
to replace the PCV valve with a PCV breather since it shouldn't have
been connected to that riser. And they adjusted the timing to about 10
btdc.
They also said my 2 barrel carb was too small for the engine. My gut
feeling is they didn't know what was wrong or what to do.

Again, it's better but still not what I would expect from a new engine.
Still seems a little rough. Finding a decent mechanic here is the needle
in the haystack thing. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

I want to thank everyone who contributes to this site. I couldn't have
gotten this far with this project without it. In particular the tech
articles on points to breakerless conversion and the Why FE's bend
pushrods.

Sorry for the length, but I figured you'd want some history.

John (az67)
'67 F100 Custom Cab
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 16:27:46 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '67 F100

>Haven't been able to get this thing to run smooth yet. Tried going back
>to my old gap and timing (32 and 6 btdc) and seemed a little better.
>Took it to a shop and they plugged the port at the rear of the carb
>riser plate (which I had always hooked up to my PCV valve) and told me
>to replace the PCV valve with a PCV breather since it shouldn't have
>been connected to that riser. And they adjusted the timing to about 10
>btdc.
>They also said my 2 barrel carb was too small for the engine. My gut
>feeling is they didn't know what was wrong or what to do.
>
>Again, it's better but still not what I would expect from a new engine.

I was fighting my old engine with this sort of thing for quite a while, the
solution was to hook up a vaccuum gauge and tune it using that. Try and
get the idle set as low as possible and adjust the carb and timing to
achieve maxiumum vaccuum. My tired old 360 can pull about 17 or 18 in
(can't rem if its water or hg, but its a standard ...). Before I put in a
timing chain and bumped the timing to about 12 it would run a little rough,
but now its just purring. I set timing first, then do the carb thing, but
you don't want the timing so far advanced that it pings. Also check the
needle and see if it is wavering or not. If you can't pull much you've
probably got a vaccuum leak somewhere. Also try running off of both
manifold vaccuum (directly from the manifold tree) or ported (may be on the
carb, may not), check the gauge, give it some revs and see if it rises then
drops or just drops, that'll tell you if its ported or not. It took me 5
years, but now that I'm ready to put a 390 in (well in a month or two) its
finally running perfectly ... grrrr ... email me privately if you would like

Bill
wish iastate.edu
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:52:27 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates

>John LaG. writes: >>Did Ford ever put on a quick release
>tailgate like GM from the mid 70s on? On my 76, 79, and 83 GMCs I could
>take the tailgate off in about 30 seconds.
>
>Don't the Ford tailgates come off this way: Slightly open tailgate -
>remove the metal side folding contraptions(they have a slot to come off
>the stud thing sticking out from the outer portion of tailgate) that
hold
>the tailgate level with bed when down - lower tailgate almost all way
and
>lift the front - and bingo - it is in your hands-??????
>
>Shouldn't take more than 1 miniute, and probably less If I remember
>correctly ...
If I remember right Ford did not start that till 73. My 70 un bolts but
my dad's 76 and the 79 I had came off easily


Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
ICQ# 13179729
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:04:26 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Crewcab frame wheels

Gentlemen and Ladies,

Just asking again in case somebody missed previous. Does anybody have or
know of a crewcab 4wd frame or running gear that is for sale?

I have a 1976 crewcab 2wd that I would like to find a frame for!!!

Also, my friend Jeff is looking for Jackman spoke wheels. Go to:
www.angelfire.com/co/goldhunter/index/spoker.html to see picture of wheels
he is looking for.

Thanks, Rick
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:47:29 EST
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame ID #?

The Illinois State Police found mine on the top flange if the right frame rail
behind the 3rd crossmember (under the box) The was one also up closer to the
front before the 1st cross memeber, but area gets alot of salt, mud, etc from
the road spray and it usually cant be found.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:02:09 -0800
From: "Wiltzius, Tom"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 62 windshields

Hi gang,
I found a windshield on a truck that looks like it will fit my 62 F113.
Do all of the windshields for the early 60's body styles fit each other?
Or is there something I need to look out for. I would hate to spend the
time removing this glass only to find that it did not fit.
Thanks,
Tom
Reno,NV
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:08:33 EST
From: Boon40 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap

Dear Gentlemen,
I have found a 460 for 300 dollars. It comes from a 70 lincoln, and has 73
heads on it. It has never been rebuilt. Does this sound good? I know i will
have to change the oil pan and pick up. Will i need to use different exhaust
manifolds? Thanks, boon
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:22:17 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 windshields

"Wiltzius, Tom" wrote:

> Hi gang,
> I found a windshield on a truck that looks like it will fit my 62 F113.
> Do all of the windshields for the early 60's body styles fit each other?
> Or is there something I need to look out for. I would hate to spend the
> time removing this glass only to find that it did not fit.
> Thanks,
> Tom
> Reno,NV

All the widshield openings that I have seen are the same. The rear widow
on the other hand I have seen two sizes.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:16:21 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock H2O Pump

Has anyone tried out one those aluminum Edelbrock H20 pumps for an FE?

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:23:07 -0500
From: "The Freeman Family"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 427

Guys I found a 427 medium riser today sitting in a machine shop. Took my
block in to have it cleaned and bored and new bearing put in and there she
sat. From what my machinist told me was it came out of a Sprint Car and he
has just freshened it up. I asked if it were for sell and he told me that
for $4500 he'd drop it in my truck. Tempted but a little to rich for me at
the moment. But if any is intrested let me know and I'll get you hooked up
with him and you can talk.

Just thought you'd like to know. I don't think he charges extra for the
drool marks I left on it.

Later,

- -Ted


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:24:24 -0500
From: "The Freeman Family"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock H2O Pump

Colorado Jeff,

No...but I'm curious too

- -Ted
- -----Original Message-----
From: BDIJXS aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:22 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock H2O Pump


>Has anyone tried out one those aluminum Edelbrock H20 pumps for an FE?
>
>Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:32:28 -0500
From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 427

Dang, I did graduate from the 8th grade with honors....sorry for the bad
grammer.

- -Ted
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From: The Freeman Family
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:28 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 427


>
>Guys I found a 427 medium riser today sitting in a machine shop. Took my
>block in to have it cleaned and bored and new bearing put in and there she
>sat. From what my machinist told me was it came out of a Sprint Car and he
>has just freshened it up. I asked if it were for sell and he told me that
>for $4500 he'd drop it in my truck. Tempted but a little to rich for me at
>the moment. But if any is intrested let me know and I'll get you hooked up
>with him and you can talk.
>
>Just thought you'd like to know. I don't think he charges extra for the
>drool marks I left on it.
>
>Later,
>
>-Ted
>
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:20:33 -0500
From: paul vanpelt
Subject: FTE 61-79 - c6 wannabes

I saw you recent post regarding delayed 2/3 shifts on your C6. It
appears you've done everything involved already, so I dug out my ATSG
service manual and checked the troubleshooting section: The only thing I
found that is not on your list of already changed/checked items is the
intermeadiate servo and its related parts. The servo is accessable on
the outside for the transmission, passenger side toward the bell
housing. The cover bolts on (4) and inside is a piston with seals. The
book says air pressure check the servo and its check ball (in the valve
body), since you've changed the valve body it unlikely that is the
problem, unless you pulled the cover plate and dropped the check ball
out during the swap. You might check the piston seals and case surface
for the intermeadiate servo. All the other checks in the
troubleshooting section are for vacuum related problems, did you check
for vacuum at the modulator. Some of the tests in the book call for
applying vacuum (with a tester) directly to the modulator and checking
the shift points with various values of vacuum applied. Last, reading
between the lines, it would appear that the govenor is not even a factor
in the 2/3 shift. It is only mentioned in regards to the 1/2 shift.
The ATSG manual is available from transmission parts suppliers or JC
Whitney for about $12. It is pretty much a copy of the Ford service
manuals for C6's in most truck service manuals. It does contain some
Tech service bulletins not found in Ford books. One last note, you did
torque the valve body nice and evenly to 95-125 inch pounds right??? If
not all bets are off!
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:19:06 -0800
From: Jake and Dee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Holes

Thanks for the answer.I had another suggestion that it might have been
for water or sewage tanks that were held between the camper and the box
forward of the fenders.This seems possible as I don't think the older
campers had their own. Any one else hear of this?
Jake in B.C.
65 Camper Special 351c
Flat black and still going
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:33:54 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 swap

>Dear Gentlemen,
> I have found a 460 for 300 dollars. It comes from a 70 lincoln, and has
73
>heads on it. It has never been rebuilt. Does this sound good? I know i will
>have to change the oil pan and pick up. Will i need to use different
exhaust
>manifolds? Thanks, boon
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Boon,

Re: exhaust manifolds

On the 460 I put into my 77 F250 4WD, I used the passenger car exhaust
manifold on the drivers side. It points out and downward in the proper
direction. On the passenger side however, the passenger car exhaust
manifold points too far outward, necessitating having to notch the frame.
Check your local wrecking yards for an exhaust manifold that came off of
a 460 that was originally in a truck; they follow a straighter line to the
rear
of the engine, thereby clearing the frame. The truck 460 manifolds were a
little
tough to come by, so if you find one hang onto it. Don't forget to check the
mid to late 70's Ford vans as well; some of those had 460's too.

Hope this helps,

Uncle Mike
Phoenix, AZ.


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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:35:39 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 460

I was just wondering if I could get some info on my engine. Its a 460 of a
Lincoln Cont, and I was just wanting to get some information on it. Like
what kinda heads it might have on it, the compression, etc. I dont know
where to look on the heads for the numbers, so.. All i know is it put in
2nd place at the country truck pull, just behind a severly built 351c.. Oh
well.. :)

Thanks,
Cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:53:49 -0500
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering parts

>
>What type parts house did you find that carried a Spicer parts catalogue???
>I really need to know. I seem to have the same problem.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>

I found that hick's 4x4

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hicks4x4.com

carried the dana 60 grease cap without steering arm I was looking for which
the sales guy (Vince) said he was "ordering out of the Spicer catalog."
The part hasn't arrived yet, just placed the order, so I have no past or
additional information on Hick's 4x4.

Good luck,
John


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:19:39 EST
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Steering Shaft

OX.....I did it to both ends of my 1979 Bronco. The guy at the Driveshaft
shop said that he thought that there was a joint with more splines. Sure
enough he was correct!!! The Splines on both the steering box & steering
coloumn are the same. The larger of the stock two piece "collapsible" shaft
has a 1" outside.....The smaller (solid shaft) has a 3/4" outside. I cut the
stock steering shaft....Mocked the shaft in place.....set screwed the joints
on.....and preheated the cast iron (to prevent cracks)....and did a full weld
around the joints. It steers like a new truck now..and has serviceable zerk
fittings too!!! I do not have any part numbers, because I saved on NJ Tax
that way. I do think that a good local driveshaft company (with a good
counter person) can help you out. If there are any questions...just ask!!!
Wayne Grabley

PS....The parts are really used for the PTO (Power Take Off) shafts on
towtrucks!!!
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:33:12 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - gasoline filler hose

John:

Your explanation was much longer than my simple one. But I agree with
you. If a bend is needed, get a mandrel bent one. Sometimes those
are even available in parts stores.

Tim Bowman
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:08:55 -0500
From: dale rimkunas
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '65 F-100 parts interchanges

Hey all!
in the bone yard yesterday and saw a '62 or '63. Guess what, the
last piece of metal that i need before going to the body shop was in
beautiful condition waiting there for me. I think. Question: will a '62 or
63 fender fit on a '65, or am i ridiculously optimisstic ?
Also, what is the trick to removing the vent window from the door?
It is absolutely driving me nuts. I am trying so hard not o destroy it. Any
tips would be really appreciated.

in Ford we trust,

dale rimkunas
daler atlantic.net
gainesville, fl


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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:29:47 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion

i have a c6 and a np205 for sale for 250.00, but can't find anyone that needs
it, the 205's hardly ever tear up. the local yards get 250.00 just for the t
case. if you buy just the tcase you have to have the tailshaft from the trans
and also the adapter.

jeff grant
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:33:58 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 427

typical price for a rebuilt medium riser.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:35:02 -0600
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion

Where are you located? What year are they? What engine does the tranny bolt
too and do you have the driveshafts?

Thanks,
Brett
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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4WD Conversion


>i have a c6 and a np205 for sale for 250.00, but can't find anyone that
needs
>it, the 205's hardly ever tear up. the local yards get 250.00 just for the
t
>case. if you buy just the tcase you have to have the tailshaft from the
trans
>and also the adapter.
>
>jeff grant
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:40:24 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 460

the casting number is just above the exhaust ports, parallel to the valve
cover rail.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:52:30 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 460

In a message dated 1/6/99 6:36:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
cannandale netpointe.com writes:


Lincoln Cont, and I was just wanting to get some information on it. >>

The casting numbers for the heads are located on the ledge just below the
valve cover but above the exhaust ports on both heads. If engine has leaked
oil from the covers these numbers are some times caked over in black gummy
stuff. If you have any of the following three numbers and this is the same
block they were originally assembled on, then you have the strongest Lincoln
engine produced: (C8SZ-B, D8VE-E, or DOVE-C). If you look at the front right
hand upper corner of the block just below the head and next the timing chain
housing you will see an area that is machined smooth. In this area the build
date of the engine is stamped. It could be something like 3M6, in this case 3
stands for 1973, M for December, and 6 for the day of the month. M stands for
12th month as the letter I is not used. With the head casting numbers and the
build date on the block, I could give you what my book (How to Rebuild Your
Ford V-8) says the ratings are for the engine.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:15:37 -0500
From: "Brad Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - questions

Hello All,
Does anyone have suggestions on how to prep and paint the inside part of the
"Cowl".
(the area at the outside bottom of the windshield where there are slots for
air intake
near where the wipers mount.) There is no reasonable way to get it apart
but since I am changing colors I need to fix this so it does not show the
wrong color.

Also,
I am changing to power brakes and no longer have a fitting to mount my
pressure actuated Brake Light switch. In your collective experience, should
I go to a plunger switch on the pedal or does someone know of a Tee the will
take the double flange fittings (JIC?) on the straight sides and what
appears to be a 1/4" pipe tap for the new switch on the third tee port?

Any opinions/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
bjones snip.net
'65 f 100 shortbed (not stepside) modified with '68 f250 4WD drive train.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:06:31 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - questions

Brad Jones wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am changing to power brakes and no longer have a fitting to mount my
> pressure actuated Brake Light switch. In your collective experience, should
> I go to a plunger switch on the pedal or does someone know of a Tee the will
> take the double flange fittings (JIC?) on the straight sides and what
> appears to be a 1/4" pipe tap for the new switch on the third tee port?

Forget putting back the pressure switch. I also put in a pressure switch when....

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