61-79-list-digest Tuesday, June 8 1999 Volume 03 : Number 195



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Hot Starting
Re: FTE 61-79 - Repair Books
Re: FTE 61-79 - Alternative fuels, anyone?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Repair Books
FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
FTE 61-79 - 302 Head Swap - Thanks
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Headlight switch knob
FTE 61-79 - Part needed for 67-72 Pickup
FTE 61-79 - Salt Lake City List Members?
FTE 61-79 - hoisting points
FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
FTE 61-79 - More info on hot starts
Re: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 engine ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
Re: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - hoisting points
Re: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
FTE 61-79 - fan shroud for a 76 390
Re: FTE 61-79 - PCV for 69 F250 with Holley 1850
Re: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud for a 76 390
Re: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud for a 76 390
FTE 61-79 - RE: Dizzy Update, Timing Specs

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:44:00 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hot Starting

Guys,
This is my latest update:

HOT START- SLOW TURNING FIX
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -
| Antifreeze Buildup in Rings | Replace the head gasket & clean rings
|
| Bad ground at starter | Clean block and/or replace cable
|
| Warped Flywheel??? | Repair or replace flywheel
|
| | |
| Hot START- NORMAL TURNING | FIX |
|------------------------------|--------------------------------------------|
| Vaporizing Fuel | Add a spacer/insulator under carburator |
| Warped Flywheel??? | Repair or replace flywheel |
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please, if anyone has experienced hot starting, report in and let me know
what the problem was, the fix and if it turned over slow or normal.

Thanks
Tim 66F100 w/SWB, stock P/S, Custom Cab and O/D
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:52:48 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Repair Books

Tim wrote...

> Someone gave us the ISBN# for Steve Christ's Book "How to rebuild your big
> block engine". It was 0-89586-070-8. I called my local bookstore and she
> said it must be out of print because it isn't listed. Can onyone give me
> more information?
..........

I'd try another book store. I recently purchased a copy of Steve
Christ's book from Barnes & Noble. They did have to order it, and it took
about a week or so.

The page at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ contains a search form. You can
order the book by searching for the authors name "Steve Christ".


Danger


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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:08:41 -0700
From: Jeffrey Osier-Mixon
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Alternative fuels, anyone?

John Lord wrote:

> Propane is more commonly found than natural gas (at least where i am) It
> is only 10% less powerfull than gas, compared to natural gas at 25%.
> the 10% can be made up for by bringing up your compression to 10 to 11.5
> to 1. Because propane is about 105 octane.

I'm curious, though, isn't propane just as damaging to the environment?

Also, how much did your conversion cost? Did you perform it yourself?

Thanks again

Jefro
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Impossibilium nulla obligatio est.


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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:26:05 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Repair Books

At 06:21 PM 6/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Someone gave us the ISBN# for Steve Christ's Book "How to rebuild your big
>block engine". It was 0-89586-070-8. I called my local bookstore and she
>said it must be out of print because it isn't listed. Can onyone give me
>more information?
>
Tim,

Try www.amazon.com

I know they have it! Saw it listed the other day.

Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:38:08 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

Hey y'all! Well, y'all know I gotta 4x4 and I haven't gotten a chance to use
it sice I got it, but this weekend I did and
it was so much fun! My friend and I took a back road
nowhere> to get to a rodeo and we had a blast! I didn't go very fast cuz the
road was a washboard with some hella big potholes in it, but nuffin mah baby
couldn't handle! LOL I didn't even use the 4x.....I am hoping to take it
4xing this summer! Wish me luck y'all! Just thought I'd let y'all know that
my baby got to stretch her legs a lil this weekend! LOL OH! I found out
somethin purty nifty today...today in shop my truck wouldn't start when it
just started a few minutes ago, so my shop teacher said to pull up on the
shifting lever thingy while I turned the ignition and POOF it started right
up! Whether that's a well known trick of the trade or what, but just thought
I'd pss it along, I thought it was nifty! Bye y'all!

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:51:34 +0000
From: "James Holland"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 302 Head Swap - Thanks

Thanks for all the great info. I'm getting the heads back this week and
I'll keep you updated to how it goes.

As far as the valv covers go. I rebuilt a 302 (83) about 4 years ago and
went to roller rocker arms. I orderd 302 valve covers and they were too
short! I had to order 351w valve covers, that's why I was asking.

Thanks again everyone!!!!

- - Brian
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:38:32 -0700
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

How did yo go off-roading on a road??
-srw
Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'65 F100

- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ;
Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!


> Hey y'all! Well, y'all know I gotta 4x4 and I haven't gotten a chance to
use
> it sice I got it, but this weekend I did
and
> it was so much fun! My friend and I took a back road
> nowhere> to get to a rodeo and we had a blast! I didn't go very fast cuz
the
> road was a washboard with some hella big potholes in it, but nuffin mah
baby
> couldn't handle! LOL I didn't even use the 4x.....I am hoping to take it
> 4xing this summer! Wish me luck y'all! Just thought I'd let y'all know
that
> my baby got to stretch her legs a lil this weekend! LOL OH! I found out
> somethin purty nifty today...today in shop my truck wouldn't start when it
> just started a few minutes ago, so my shop teacher said to pull up on the
> shifting lever thingy while I turned the ignition and POOF it started
right
> up! Whether that's a well known trick of the trade or what, but just
thought
> I'd pss it along, I thought it was nifty! Bye y'all!
>
> *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
> *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:54:23 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

In a message dated 06/07/1999 11:53:15 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
SWeatherby uswest.net writes:


-srw
Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'65 F100 >>
OK would you like me to re-phrase that? I went "ON-ROADING" OK????

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:15:04 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Headlight switch knob

sure can, there is a little button on the switch itself. Push it in, and
pull the knob out.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:46:28 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Part needed for 67-72 Pickup

Hey Brian,

Are there any junkyards near you? Bet you could pick one up (the whole pedal
assembly) for five or ten bucks.....should be plenty of these around. Kind of
funny, this same thing happened on my '69 several years ago...

CJ
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:46:47 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Salt Lake City List Members?

Hey There,

Its time for CJ to buy someone breakfast in Salt Lake, I'll be out there next
week.

Any takers?

CJ
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:01:54 -0700
From: Mark Flynn
Subject: FTE 61-79 - hoisting points

Been lurking for a while and this is my first post to this group. And
quite a busy group it is ;^)

I have a '66 F250 w/352 and 4spd on the floor; which I use whenever I
can't ride my motorcycle, (more than 2 people, or hauling). Being in the
SF Bay area; it only gets used about once a week.

Anyway; I'm getting ready to pull the engine for a rebuild; and noticed
that there doesn't seem to be threaded holes in the front/ back on both
heads, to attach my nifty new adjustable tiltbar for the hoist. So; I'm
thinking of using a carb lifting plate instead of just wrapping chains
around the block.

Has anyone had problems using a carb lift plate on these heavy FEs?
Should I remove the studs for the carb, and use bolts to attach the lift
plate to the intake manifold?

Also; a carb question. I can't tell what carb is on this engine. It's a
two barrel; and doesn't match any of the pix in my shop manual. There
are no ID tags on it; and the parts store wants the information to sell
me a rebuild kit.

thx for any help,
Mark
San Jose, CA

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:44:07 CDT
From: Daniel Hansen
Subject: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!

Does anybody think it is nescessary to put a high performance oil pump shaft
on an engine. It is a 390. Some people have told me that they break quite
often so they told me to get a high performance one. Please somebody help me
i need to get it soon if i do. Thanks for all of the your input.

Enduroman


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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:05:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: loustrk ix.netcom.com (louis sirio)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

All of us off-roaders have a lot to deal with. You have states
wanting to close trails everyday. If it wasn't for truck clubs
along with everyday 4X4 owners, holding events and cleaning up
trails all over the country, the sport would be dead.
So please, don't drive your truck off road.
Don't even drive it on road. Why, because your the perfect
stereotype for all of those bad adds.



You wrote:
>
>In a message dated 06/07/1999 11:53:15 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>SWeatherby uswest.net writes:
>
>
> -srw
> Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
> SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
> '70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
> '65 F100 >>
>OK would you like me to re-phrase that? I went "ON-ROADING" OK????
>
>*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
>*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:43:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: loustrk ix.netcom.com (louis sirio)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - More info on hot starts

Someone wrote in that they also solved the problem
by cleaning the ground connections. Feels good right?
You also wanted to know if anything else can go bad do
to a bad ground. The answer is yes. That bad ground killed
three of my starters and one battery before I found the
problem. Think about it, If you don't have a good connection,
the battery is putting all the power to the starter, with no
place to go. you will burn out starters every few months, then
your battery will go.
A bad ground in any circuit of your truck, will
cause something to fry, sooner or later.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:23:46 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!

Enduroman wrote...

> Does anybody think it is nescessary to put a high performance oil pump
shaft
> on an engine. It is a 390. Some people have told me that they break quite
> often so they told me to get a high performance one. Please somebody help
me
> i need to get it soon if i do. Thanks for all of the your input.
...............

I wouldn't worry about using a high performance oil pump hex shaft
(stock is probably hardened steel) as much as I'd worry about the pickup
tube screen, and the pump being jammed with fragments of timing chain teeth
or valve stem seals.


Danger



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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:29:12 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 engine ?

82 and later 5.0 engines were externaly balanced, the early flywheel may not
fit the late model bellhousing.

jeff grant
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:39:15 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

In a message dated 6/7/99 7:12:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
loustrk ix.netcom.com writes:

>
Id like to know who this was directed at. Either way I cant say I agree. If
your comment was to Lisa, the only thing I can think of is maybe you don't
think an inexperienced driver should even own a 4x4. I think this is nuts,
as all of us were inexperienced at one time.
If this was directed to Sam's comment that poked a lil fun at Lisa's trip
down a dirt road, Then I ask you to take several things into consideration.
First off I've never heard ANYONE on this list doing anything irresponsible.
Most posts to this list (mine included) talk about a fun wheeling trip, along
with some good advice and a lil responsibility. Such as cleaning up Litter,
and making sure to not cause any environmental damage. The second thing to
consider is maybe you don't think any one should drive off of any road. Then
I ask about those of us that cruise the desert over sand dunes and dry lakes,
or those folks that go tearin through mudholes that are nothing like a road.
Then of course there are trails that are FAR from being considered roads. I
could go on, but first I ask for you to clarify the comment, so I can know If
I've jumped to a conclusion. Secondly, I ask that if this statement was
indeed derogatory, that you keep it to yourself, as that negative attitude
plain sucks. Once again, If I've misunderstood you, I apologize, but I doubt
I have, which is why I sent this.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:42:33 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!

i have seen several break, and have seen some that looked like a twisted
piece of wrought iron, usualy happens when pcs of valve seals or other
foreign object gets into the oil pump, or from high rpm use.

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:40:46 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hoisting points

Mark wrote...

> Anyway; I'm getting ready to pull the engine for a rebuild; and noticed
> that there doesn't seem to be threaded holes in the front/ back on both
> heads, to attach my nifty new adjustable tiltbar for the hoist. So; I'm
> thinking of using a carb lifting plate instead of just wrapping chains
> around the block.
...........

If removing the engine it's easier to use a chain bolted to the drivers
side front and the passenger side rear of the heads.

If installing the engine then you may want to use you're nifty new
adjustable tiltbar and attach it to the four corners of the intake manifold
using the rear bolts (with spacers removed to allow for chain), and 2 longer
bolts for the front.

I always use grade 8 washers at all locations just to be on the safe side.


Danger





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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:06:13 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - High Performance Oil Pump Shaff!!

a ford motorsports pump shaft is about 40.00, thats cheap insurance, but i
say YES, install a new oil pump pu tube, definely cheap insurance.

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:05:08 -0700
From: Dennis Dellinger
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

Hi Lisa
When you pulled up on the shift lever you caused the neutral safety switch to
make a good contact, thereby allowing current to travel from your ignition switch
to the solenoid. This is a symptom that over the years there has been enough wear
and tear on the switch to make it less reliable, so what you need to do is take
the switch apart and clean it (if possible) or replace it. Yes I said YOU not
your dad or your shop teacher or anyone else. They can show you what parts to
work on tell you how to do it and check that it is correct when finished. But the
point is you have a vehicle that is over 20 years old, and it will break down so
you have to be able to fix it ( even at the risk of breaking a nail).
If you go 4xing PLEASE go with someone who knows what they are doing and listen
to them.
Good luck
Dennis Dellinger

Bad4dFilly aol.com wrote:

> Hey y'all! Well, y'all know I gotta 4x4 and I haven't gotten a chance to use
> it sice I got it, but this weekend I did and
> it was so much fun! My friend and I took a back road
> nowhere> to get to a rodeo and we had a blast! I didn't go very fast cuz the
> road was a washboard with some hella big potholes in it, but nuffin mah baby
> couldn't handle! LOL I didn't even use the 4x.....I am hoping to take it
> 4xing this summer! Wish me luck y'all! Just thought I'd let y'all know that
> my baby got to stretch her legs a lil this weekend! LOL OH! I found out
> somethin purty nifty today...today in shop my truck wouldn't start when it
> just started a few minutes ago, so my shop teacher said to pull up on the
> shifting lever thingy while I turned the ignition and POOF it started right
> up! Whether that's a well known trick of the trade or what, but just thought
> I'd pss it along, I thought it was nifty! Bye y'all!
>
> *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
> *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:07:03 -0700
From: Dennis Dellinger
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

She's a girl there were bumps
Dennis Dellinger

Sam Weatherby wrote:

> How did yo go off-roading on a road??
> -srw
> Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
> SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
> '70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
> '65 F100
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: ;
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:38 PM
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!
>
> > Hey y'all! Well, y'all know I gotta 4x4 and I haven't gotten a chance to
> use
> > it sice I got it, but this weekend I did
> and
> > it was so much fun! My friend and I took a back road
> > nowhere> to get to a rodeo and we had a blast! I didn't go very fast cuz
> the
> > road was a washboard with some hella big potholes in it, but nuffin mah
> baby
> > couldn't handle! LOL I didn't even use the 4x.....I am hoping to take it
> > 4xing this summer! Wish me luck y'all! Just thought I'd let y'all know
> that
> > my baby got to stretch her legs a lil this weekend! LOL OH! I found out
> > somethin purty nifty today...today in shop my truck wouldn't start when it
> > just started a few minutes ago, so my shop teacher said to pull up on the
> > shifting lever thingy while I turned the ignition and POOF it started
> right
> > up! Whether that's a well known trick of the trade or what, but just
> thought
> > I'd pss it along, I thought it was nifty! Bye y'all!
> >
> > *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
> > *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:12:12 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

In a message dated 06/08/1999 4:30:56 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
dsd74ta earthlink.net writes:


you have to be able to fix it ( even at the risk of breaking a nail). >>

OK look I may be a girl and I may not know as much as some guys know about my
truck, but I take offense to that comment cuz ya are classifying us gals in
general sayin we ain't willin to get our nails dirty! Now granted after I get
my nails done of course I wear gloves cuz I ain't gonna
ruin a 15$ manicure job, but that in no way stop me from getting my hands
dirty, ya got that?



How did yo go off-roading on a road??
-srw>>
She's a girl there were bumps
Dennis Dellinger

Umm...Ok was I the only one who found that chauvinistic and not the least bit
funny? I HOPE y'all are just pokin fun, but ya really need to watch what ya
say in the future cuz that wasn't funny. Now I don't dish out anything I can
handle, keep that in mind. I just thought ya would show a lil more maturity
then that.....

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 01:15:08 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MY FIRST OFFROADING TRIP!

" Why, because your the perfect stereotype for all of those bad adds."

I'm going to have to agree with Darrell on this one. Not only were
those comments derogatory towards Lisa, they were derogatory towards all
four wheel drive owners and women. I have never seen any kind of biased,
chauvinistic, or rude comments on this list untill now, and I, for one,
am ashamed that Lisa (and anyone else that took offense) has been
treated this way.
I would hope that in the future, rude comments such as what I've seen
tonight, will not be seen on this list. Remember, we are all here for
the same reasons, and not to make fun of, or put down other people.

Jason
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:29:20 -0800
From: "Matthew Schumacher"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud for a 76 390

Anyone know where I can find a fan shroud for my 76 F-150. The dealer
says he can't get it anymore and all the junkyards here in Alaska don't
have any. The truck has a 390 with the bigger radiator


Thanks

schu

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:30:48 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - PCV for 69 F250 with Holley 1850

>
> These spacers may be helpful in keeping carb temps under control. If you
> live in the mts I know people are running larger spacers because its
easier
> to boil the gas in the carb at higher elevations ... so while my gf's
> brother is runnin a 2" phenolic spacer, I'm running only the stock 3/4"
(?)
> spacer, he's in WY I'm in IA ... neither of us have vapor lock problems...
>
> I also have the coolant lines on my 390, got the intake/carb/spacer from a
> 65 galaxie, hooked those lines up when I put the 390 in. I'm anticipating
> great performance this winter as the carb should stay warmer once things
> get up to temp ... maybe between that and the 180 deg thermostat (instead
> of 160), I'll actually get my choke to shut off this year !
>
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> wish
.........

Thanks for the info.

I'm going to get a stock spacer with the coolant lines the next time I visit
the salvage yard.

Danger



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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 01:41:02 -0500
From: Johannes Fluetter
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud for a 76 390

Obsolete Ford Parts, Inc. sells them for $114.95. A little pricey, but if
you want it, they've got it.

Their phone # is 405-631-3933.

John F.

Matthew Schumacher wrote:

> Anyone know where I can find a fan shroud for my 76 F-150. The dealer
> says he can't get it anymore and all the junkyards here in Alaska don't
> have any. The truck has a 390 with the bigger radiator
>
> Thanks
>
> schu
>
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:53:03 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud for a 76 390

> schu
> Anyone know where I can find a fan shroud for my 76 F-150. The dealer
> says he can't get it anymore and all the junkyards here in Alaska don't
> have any. The truck has a 390 with the bigger radiator
>
........

I got so desperate for a fan shroud on my 69 F250 with a new 390 that
after searching all the salvage yards, I ended up at the hardware store
buying a sheet of alluminum and some alluminum 3/4" corner stock and built
my own shroud. Mimicing aircraft design, I had 4 corner sections pop rivited
together via a 1/2" flange. The perimeter was framed with the corner stock,
and all pop rivits were siliconed to prevent rattling. It looks a bit crude
but it works great, it will never rust, and it doesn't get brittle over time
like the original shroud does.

Doh!... If I only had a 3' bender, I could of made a great looking shroud!


Danger


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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:49:06 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Dizzy Update, Timing Specs

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:59:34 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Dizzy Update, Timing Specs

>If you don't spin the distributor back, then the engine pings and knocks
>and is hard to start (slow cranking, too much advance) Spin it back, no
>problem.

How far back are you spinning from this point ?

Timing is adjusted about 20 degrees I'd say, between the two settings.

If you work your way back
slowly til you don't get the ping/knock or hard start then that's where you
should leave it.

I move it forward till it pings, then back off a little, check for starting
problems, then back off a litttle more if there are any starting problems.
I drive it and make sure the engine is not running warm (temp guage really
comes in handy here) If timing is too far advanced, then the truck will
run at the top end of the guage.

Judging by wrecked trucks while handy for initial,
probably isn't the greatest for final settings (you have to wonder why
they're there ...)

Not just trucks, but cars were checked, and many had frozen distributors,
so the timing must have been ok for some time, or else the car would not
have run. (And some were still running) I wasn't really using the info for
settings, but I noticed my dist points in the direction the recycling
center ones did, which couldn't hurt.

Invest in a vacuum gauge or tach and timing light,
you'll feel much better about the results then ... and you can use the....

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