61-79-list-digest Sunday, May 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 165



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - fte 61-79 where's the fe info
FTE 61-79 - heads revisited
FTE 61-79 - 351W Saga
Re: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud.
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351W Saga
RE: FTE 61-79 - dual exhausts
FTE 61-79 - cleaning dash pads
FTE 61-79 - Re: heads
FTE 61-79 - 1979 351M valve clatter
FTE 61-79 - GLOVE BOX LINER?
FTE 61-79 - Dana 60 swap

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 07:37:17 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - fte 61-79 where's the fe info

> To give you an idea of what you can do to a 390, I just dropped mine in
> and was VERY pleased. It's a lil over 400 ponies. 401 c.i. 750 Holley
> vaccum secondaries, Edlebrock Perfprmer RPM "dual plane" intake, just a lil
> head work done.adjustable rockers, valve job, a lil porting & poilishing.
> Put a lunati cam in, duration .050 is 230 gross dur is 292 gross lift is
> .554 lope separation is 109. It has a healthy lope to it. Forged pistons
> 9.5 compression. MSD billet distributer, MSD 6A box, MSD Blaster coil with
> MSD 8.5 plug wires to go with. Headmen Headers followed with 3" exhaust
> (Flowmasters). If you have any questions let me know, I did a lot of
> researching before I built the motor.

Sounds like pretty sweet engine to me!
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 05:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: chinacat sun
Subject: FTE 61-79 - heads revisited

heads I would like to redo my heads on a 72 f-100 w\ a 390,4 brl
carter carb, duel exaust w\ headmen headers and two cerry bombs(no
leaks), i am also running w\ points
and c6 trans. I dont know if harden seats have been done. the
truck sometimes backfires through the carb when getting on
it.(espeacialy when its cold) people
have sead it could be running to lean but by the look of the tail pipe
I do not think it is lean..witch makes me think its the heads. how
often do older heads like mine need harden seats? and what else could
cause my beast to act like this? I have not done a compesion check
yet that is my next step. damon



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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:02:34 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351W Saga

> By the way, I never used the timed spark port on the carb. but manifold
> vacuum. You will notice a common problem with timed spark port, and that is
> that during very low speeds in the city the engine gets to late ign. to
> keep clean. At idle you will need to run very lean mixture, which is good
> ok, but the timed spark port is not the best solution I have seen. I let my
> engine have full ign. advance all the time, ok when I started the engine it
> sounded a little like a diesel, but never problem with dirt building up
> during slow speeds.


Yesterday we put a "65" power valve in place of that weird thing that
was the OEM style. (It's an OEM '87 heavy-duty emissions Holley) The
pinging improved considerably, but was still there 10d initial w/
manifold vacuam advance. We backed it back to 7d, and plugged into the
spark ported port, and ended up with 35d total, all in at 2200 rpms. It
still pings very lightly as you step lightly into it. If you step into
it with a little more authority it doesn't ping at all. I think we need
to try an "85" power valve, and try to get that initial timing back up
to 10. I'd really like to get 10d initial and 38d total. The
centrifugal curve is perfect. The vacuam advance is coming in right
where it needs it, but it's a seems to be a little much for the fuel (93
octane Amoco Premium) it has to work with. And the total timing is
close to where it ought to be. I wouldn't want to push it up any higher
in the power band because at 55 mph it's turning about 2200. The
economy should be good on the highway. I just think that if it had more
fuel in the power circuit it may cure it. I hope it does. With 10d and
38 total it's stout, not an FE, but mighty good for a Windsor...:-)
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:15:13 -0500
From: "John R. Austin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud.

Corey,
Can't answer your question directly, just a little saga. I'm also in Texas
and was constantly having overheating (no shroud). Bought one of the
universal shrouds from JCW. It fit OK but really didn't help overheating.
Had radiator "rodded". Still didn't help. Finally had an oversized radiator
installed by a radiator shop - $300. Now it works.
John
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From: Corey Johnson
To: Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 6:39 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - fan shroud.


> Are most of the 60's Ford fan shrouds interchangeable?
> Its not too hot here in Texas yet but my '66 F100 is already running
> pretty hot.
> I noticed a "universal" shroud at JCWhitneys' but not sure it I should
> use it or not.
>
>
> Corey Johnson
>
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:01:20 -0400
From: Bryan G Sheffler
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351W Saga

On Sat, 15 May 1999 08:02:34 -0500 ballingr ldd.net (William L.
Ballinger) writes:
>> By the way, I never used the timed spark port on the carb. but
>manifold
>> vacuum. You will notice a common problem with timed spark port, and
>that is
>> that during very low speeds in the city the engine gets to late ign.
>to
>> keep clean. At idle you will need to run very lean mixture, which is
>good
>> ok, but the timed spark port is not the best solution I have seen. I
>let my
>> engine have full ign. advance all the time, ok when I started the
>engine it
>> sounded a little like a diesel, but never problem with dirt building
>up
>> during slow speeds.
>
>
>Yesterday we put a "65" power valve in place of that weird thing that
>was the OEM style. (It's an OEM '87 heavy-duty emissions Holley)

The OEM Holleys use a two-stage power valve, that although may be good
for emissions, is not really good for performance. These power valves
start to kick in at 10.5 - 12.5" depending on which one you have. They
are all the way in at 5.0 - 5.5". Also, as you've mentioned a little
further down in the posting, an 85 powervalve would be a good choice.
Holley secondary carbs (non-emission) come that way new. One other
thing, since this is an emiisions Holley, they are meetered very lean.
Holley uses it's "close limits" jets in these emission carbs. The
primary jet is probably a number 612, a number 61 jet size. For point of
comparason, the 1850 holley Universal 600 cfm carb, has a number 66 main
jet size. You might want to jet up the primary side a little, since I'm
sure it is pretty lean. I hope some of htis helps.

Bryan


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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:05:04 -0700
From: "bertolin"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - dual exhausts

John, I visited Henry's web site. Henry is a great looking truck!
Roberta with 1965 custom cab
> If you go to the site listed in my signature line, you can sort of see how
> my pipes exit the rear. The front view of the truck has the best
> light. The
> rear view is a little dark down around the exhaust pipe.
>
> -John
>
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> 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: rustytruck webtv.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - cleaning dash pads

I have used Murphy's Oil Soap on dash pads with good luck, also
furniture polish from SWMBO's cleaning supplies is great.

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: heads

Damon,

I think your carb may be lean. Does it backfire
through the carb when the engine is less than fully
warm? If so then it is lean. When the choke is closed
it will be OK. After the choke opens and the engine
partially warm, it will backfire. What size carb do
you have? If it's too large the same effect. Get a
Carter or Edelbrock tuning kit, change the metering
Rods(richer). Also you may want to change the step-up
springs to get quicker step-up.

Dan Lee
'53 F-100
351C-4V


> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:05:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: chinacat sun
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - heads
>
> I would like to redo my heads on a 72 f-100 w\ a
> 390,4 brl carter
> carb and c6 trans. I dont know if harden seats have
> been done. the
> truck sometimes backfires through the carb when
> getting on it. people
> have sead it could be running to lean but by the
> look of the tail pipe
> I do not think it is lean..witch makes me think its
> the heads. how
> often do older heads like mine need harden seats?
> and what else could
> cause my beast to act like this?
> I have not done a compesion check
> yet that is my next step.
>
> damon
>

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:33:42 -0500
From: "Nate Doelling"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1979 351M valve clatter

Dazed and confused--- my 79 F150 is chattering like a tambourine when
accelerating at speeds above 60 mph! I have adjusted the timing, currently
at 6 degrees, but it hasn't helped. Anyone have any suggestions?

Nate


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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:43:05 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - GLOVE BOX LINER?

Hey y'all! What's up? I need a glove box liner for my '77 Ford. Anyone know
where I can snag one? The one I have in there now is carboard and it's all
ripped so all my stuff falls into other parts of the dash! EEK! Y'all
wouldn't believe some of the old stuff I found in there from the previous
owner when I cleaned it out. So please write back if ya know where I can get
one and how much it will cost! Thanks y'all!

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys....trucks are for GIRLS!!!~*~*
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:46:45 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dana 60 swap

I found a 72 F250 in the scrapyard with a Dana 60 limited slip (3.73), and
was wondering if the dif. will fit into the housing of a Dana 60 from a 69
F250 2wd (which currently has 4.11 regular).

Can these chunks be swapped or do I need the housing also?

The limited slip was missing the drivers side axle, Is this a major problem
or easily solved?


Danger
danger csolutions.net
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