61-79-list-digest Wednesday, January 20 1999 Volume 03 : Number 016



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: A/C in 79
Re: FTE 61-79 - Burnt main wiring harness
Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - 2v -4v swap
FTE 61-79 - oil loss in 460
FTE 61-79 - PB boosters
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"
RE: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap
FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: FTE T-shirts answers
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
FTE 61-79 - C-6 wannabe
FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
FTE 61-79 - C6 woes continue
FTE 61-79 - Leaky rear main
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?
Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 wannabe
FTE 61-79 - Another PacNW yard
FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
FTE 61-79 - 2v -4v swap
FTE 61-79 - Fuel tank filler problem
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
FTE 61-79 - 2v to 4v; heavy intake
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?
FTE 61-79 - Thanks
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
FTE 61-79 - Re: Dash repair kits (Armor All)
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Leaky rear main
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Dash repair kits (Armor All)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
FTE 61-79 - Pacific Northwest wrecking yards
RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 wannabe
Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?
FTE 61-79 - I HATE my taillights...
FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:54:49 -0600
From: "J Elliott"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"

My name is jeffrey orkin and i am 14, i found a 69 ford f100 truck, "all
orginal", rebuilt motor less than 10,000
>miles on it (the rebuilt one), new tires less than 10,000 miles, A/C (he
said factory but i dono about that) "3on >the tree", 264 straight 6, new
starter, original bed needs redone (new wood), no power steering, paint O.K.
>i've seen it, (red) $3,500 good deal or not???
>i'm only 14 and having to pay for this myself so i don't wana get ripped,
thanx alot

Well, I dunno about anyone else on the group, but I would have to pass on
this one without much thought. I will question, are you asking in U.S.
dollars or Canadian? If Canadian, then the price is not as outrageous as it
first sounds, but still too high. First of all, if the trurck was in
ABSOLUTELY PERFECT condition as far as structural rust, and NEAR PERFECT
condition for cosmetic rust, the BED necessarily pretty, but structurally
sound to the point of needing NO REPAIR repair to let it work, HAD POWER
STEERING, and had every piece of literature, window sticker, etc. from
original sale, had all service records, HAD ALL RECEIPTS FOR THE ENGINE
REBUILD, from a firm that showed that at least to the purchaser of the
rebuild there was a warranty, and if I knew the rebuilding firm was okay, I
WOULD STILL HAVE TO THINK HARD ABOUT PAYING HALF THAT PRICE.
In U.S. dollars that is. If all that were true and you were talking Canadian
dollars, I would say it would be a good deal.

Jim E.



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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:35:58 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: A/C in 79

The radiator core will have to
>have a hole installed (around 1-3/4" dia. for rubber grommet with A/C lines)

Don't you mean radiator support ? The core of the radiator is the part
that has the liquid flowing in it, I think it would be bad to run hoses
through that ...


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:42:04 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Burnt main wiring harness

>There were these purple wire loops in there that had
>printed on them "RESISTOR - DO NOT CUT OR SPLICE". I
>thought it was neat that Ford would bother to have them
>labeled like that.
>
These were probably the "Fuseable links" where they are designed to burn
out and protect the rest of the circuit in the event of a short. Cutting
and splicing these could lead to a fire if you short things out some how ...

Just a warning. Oh yeah, unless you know the ratings on those, there's not
many parts houses that can look up direct replacements and you'll end up
putting a regular fuse in.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:50:19 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap

The same exhaust system
>that fits the 429 also fits the 460. The 390 system will not.

I believe what he means here is that the engine has different exhaust
manifold connection points, either a wider block, or better manifolds so
they sink lower. From the H-pipe (ypipe or whatever you happen to have)
back all the exhaust systems should be the same (different for 4x4 and 4x2
of course)

I have not seen the JC Whitney stuff, but I would guess that a muffler shop
can make the h pipe you need to hook the rest of the system up... not sure
how much $$ though.

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:01:56 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 2v -4v swap

>I have a 67 F100 with a 2v 352 and am converting to 4v. Is this a hard
>swap to do? I consider myself a wannabe gearhead with intermediate
>automotive skills. My truck is a camper special with a 4.56 gear ratio
>and am considering swapping to higher gears so I can at least make the
>highway speeds. I would appreciate any thoughts or advice you all might
>have.
>
The gear swap might not be a bad idea, especially with a 4V, you'll be in
the back 2 all the time, which is never good for mileage. The swap, as
someone mentioned is fairly easy. An engine hoist or big friends are a
good idea for that manifold (75lbs was it ?) If you go with aluminum check
that the middle hole for the valve covers isn't stripped, and don't
overtighten and strip it yourself or you'll probably get an oil leak up
there. When I did this swap I got a Holley carb to put on it, it bolted
right on, only had to worry about locating the likage properly (either too
long of a throw or to short, but that was easily fixed)

If you want/need any more information, go ahead and send me an email
privately. I can probably help you out.

Bill
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:22:16 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - oil loss in 460

Justin,

I have been following your oil loss tale for the past weeks. I have several
thoughts.

First, get your tune up. Not only are you wasting an incredible amount of
fuel, but it is very hard to isolate oil burning from rich mixture. Plus,
if you are burning oil along with the rich mix, you are building carbon
deposits on your valves. This is a recipe for burnt valves at the least and
possibly a broken valve head through a piston or worse.

Second, if this engine was really rebuilt, and it is leaking by the rings
then either several cylinders have broken/mising rings allowing blow by or
whoever rebuilt the block didn't bore out the cylinders to round but left
them oval.

Third, oil can only go three places besides the crank case. Into the water
jacket, into the combustion chamber, or leak to the outside. To tell what
an oil leak is, stick your finger into some of the oil where it is about to
drip off of the truck. Engine oil will be brown, gray or black depending on
its condition and it will have a mild odor. Auto trans fluid and PS fluid
are red no matter how dirty they get. Manual trans gear lube will be dark
brown, heavier and stink. What the oil is dripping off of is not as
important as where it is initially leaking from.

Fourth, bad valve cover gaskets will leak your oil out of your engine fast
as will a leaking pressure sending unit. I would bet that the oil drip is
engine oil, probably coming from your valve covers. A common valve cover
mistake is to over torque the bolts. Valve cover bolts should only be tight
enough not to fall out. Any tighter will warp the cover and guarantee a
leak.

I hope this helps. I also hope you have an external leak. I lean towards a
leak as your oil loss problem. If your rings weren't set, you would be
fouling spark plugs one after another. Good luck!!


- -John

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1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:35:52 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - PB boosters

Jimbo,

I worked on a PB booster for a friend once. He wanted to go the cheapest
route possible (I was donating the labor) so we got a rebuild kit first.
Big waste of time. If your booster is bad, replace it with a known good
one. The most common reason for PB booster failure is that the master
cylinder leaks onto the diapraghm and causes it to fail. The next reason is
a small imperfection during manufacture that eventually tears. Either way,
replacing the whole thing is by far the best way to go. When we bought his,
it came with a new master cylinder whether you wanted it or not. BTW, to
get it apart you have to uncrimp the locks, then twist it apart. Unless you
want to see what's in there, it isn't worth the effort and if you do, be
careful so that you don't lose your core charge.


- -John

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:31:47 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"

What part of the country are you in where trucks are so cheap???
I think when I buy a new truck it will start with a road trip to someplace
drier than here...
-srw

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'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'98 HD FXD Super Glide
'65 F100

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From: J Elliott
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 4:53 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"


>ABSOLUTELY PERFECT condition as far as structural rust, and NEAR PERFECT
>condition for cosmetic rust, the BED necessarily pretty, but structurally
>sound to the point of needing NO REPAIR repair to let it work, HAD POWER
>STEERING, and had every piece of literature, window sticker, etc. from
>original sale, had all service records, HAD ALL RECEIPTS FOR THE ENGINE
>REBUILD, from a firm that showed that at least to the purchaser of the
>rebuild there was a warranty, and if I knew the rebuilding firm was okay, I
>WOULD STILL HAVE TO THINK HARD ABOUT PAYING HALF THAT PRICE.
>In U.S. dollars that is. If all that were true and you were talking
Canadian
>dollars, I would say it would be a good deal.


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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:48:05 -0500
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap

> ----------
> From: William S Hart[SMTP:wish iastate.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:50 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap
>
> The same exhaust system
> >that fits the 429 also fits the 460. The 390 system will not.
>
snip
> I have not seen the JC Whitney stuff, but I would guess that a muffler
> shop
> can make the h pipe you need to hook the rest of the system up... not sure
> how much $$ though.
>
> Bill
>
The new exhaust for my 429 swap was bent/welded by a local welding
shop and cost me $150 (not incl. the Flowmaster) which included the
following: (All aluminized pipe) 2.5" Y-pipe into a 3" in/out 3 chamber
Flowmaster ($60 from Summit) into a 3" pipe turned out just in front of the
right rear tire. The guy bending the pipe knew what he was doing and the
finished job looks almost factory. BTW The sound of a slightly pumped
bigblock FORD breathing thru a Flowmaster is enough to scare any ch*vy
truck into hiding. :)

Tracy
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:54:20 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

Chris:

You need to keep the pushrods in order. They must go back in in the same
locations they came from. Punch holes in a cardboard box and label the
holes if you need to.

You will need to mark the position of the distributor and make sure it goes
back in the same as it came out. You'll need to re-time the motor, etc. I'm
assuming you know how to do this.

When you get the gasket set there will be two strips of cork gasket for the
front and back of the intake. Carefully, very carefully, take these two
pieces and throw them in the trash! Use RTV black to seal the front and
rear of the manifold. Apply about a toothpaste size bead, let it get stiff
for about 20 minutes, then apply a thinner bead on top of this, and make
sure the intake fits on there perfect the first time. If you have to slide
it around a-lot to get it into position you will corrupt the seal, and you
need to clean all the sealer off and start again. If you are using a stock
4v intake it will have a little alignment pin on the front rail to help
align it. If you are using aftermarket this pin won't be there.

Have a friend help you. This intake is about 80 lbs. and there is no way
one guy can get it in and out of there without hurting himself.

Also, when you swap to 4v, it is likely that you will have to
fabricate/modify carburetor linkage to make it fit the 4v. Just something
to think about.

Good luck, and above all, have fun!!

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net


>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:56:53 PST
>From: "Christopher Denson"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - 2v -4v swap

>Calling all FE experts,
>I have a 67 F100 with a 2v 352 and am converting to 4v. Is this a hard
>swap to do? I consider myself a wannabe gearhead with intermediate
>automotive skills. My truck is a camper special with a 4.56 gear ratio
>and am considering swapping to higher gears so I can at least make the
>highway speeds. I would appreciate any thoughts or advice you all might
>have.

>Thanks,
>Chris in San Diego
'>67 F100 C/S 352/C4
'>84 Bronco II
'96 Ford Taurus

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:00:10 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: FTE T-shirts answers

After yesterday's posting about the new Ford Truck
Enthusiasts t-shirts, I received about a dozen emails
asking about security of ordering over the Internet.
I'm going to outline the measures taken:

1. If you use a browser that handles secure transactions
(Netscape and Internet Explorer are amoung these)
then your order from your browser is sent to our server
using either 128 or 40 bit encryption. Your browser
should indicate with a lock or key symbol somewhere on
the screen (usually the bottom) when you get to the
final order page that the transaction is secure.

2. The transactions are then further encrypted with PGP
using 1024/512 bit RSA encryption and stored on our
server.

3. Each evening these transactions are downloaded to our
system in encrypted form and we decrypt them on our
system. At no time is your personal information sent
over public lines unencrypted.

4. Nova, the Visa/Mastercard/Amex processor, runs a credit
check on both Ford Truck Enthusiasts and my personal
credit. Credit requirements for an Internet business
are tighter than non-Internet businesses to help insure
ethical transaction practices.

5. Nova requires a publically stated return and shipping
policy and we supply this on our order form.

Concerning the Ford truck club that is being formed (still
working on the Constitution for it)... if you join the
club and have ordered a t-shirt, the club member t-shirt
discount will be applied to your club membership fee. More
on this later....

Ken Payne



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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:13:32 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

Is there something about FEs that requires the pushrods to be put back in
the same locations?

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From: Drew Beatty
To: 'Ford Truck List'
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 7:01 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap


>Chris:
>
>You need to keep the pushrods in order. They must go back in in the same
>locations they came from. Punch holes in a cardboard box and label the
>holes if you need to.
>


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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:15:51 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C-6 wannabe

Have you tried adjusting the intermediate band? Maybe it's off enough
to cause a bind, that requires force to release it. Also, are you using
type F or ATF? All the C-6's I've had preferred type F. ATF is
supposed to work, but type F is a little bit different hydraulicly, and
might make a difference in your case.
>
> Well, I have done just about everything I can think of externally to this
> trans, checked the intermediate servo, replaced the modulator, unhooked the
> kickdown lever, replaced the valve body, checked the governor, and it still
> is not wanting to go to 3rd. It is trying to engage the reverse/high
> clutch but will not release the intermediate band unless you let off the
> gas. I noticed this weekend it is doing the same thing in reverse (not the
> gear) when you slow down on a corner and then give it gas. It is supposed
> to kickdown to 2nd but it is again doing it halfway, I guess the
> intermediate band engaging like it should but not releasing the
> reverse/high clutch unless you pull it down to "2" manually. So, unless
> anybody here can come up with something else to try, I will pull the trans
> at my next convenient weekend and take it to my rebuilder for diagnosis.
> I'll let y'all know what we find.
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:40:30 -0700
From: "Richard Currit"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

Thanks for the info all!!! I have been away so I apoligize for not =
responding to all the good info sooner. My fear of the cheapo sway bars =
was that I would get used to them and one would snap on a corner, I've =
never had this happen but it would be very interesting I'm sure. But from =
the sounds of it this is an unwarrented fear. Thanks again. And to all =
you Norwesters don't forget the east side of the mountains when your =
thinking about junkyards. I grew up in Eastern Washington. As you are =
aware it is a desert. The yards aren't as big, but there is much less =
rust and they tend to hold on to things forever. =20

High Plains Richard
'72 F-100

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:51:35 -0500
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 woes continue

>Well, I have done just about everything I can think of externally to this
>trans, checked the intermediate servo, replaced the modulator, unhooked the
>kickdown lever, replaced the valve body, checked the governor, and it still
>is not wanting to go to 3rd. It is trying to engage the reverse/high
>clutch but will not release the intermediate band unless you let off the
>gas. I noticed this weekend it is doing the same thing in reverse (not the
>gear) when you slow down on a corner and then give it gas. It is supposed
>to kickdown to 2nd but it is again doing it halfway, I guess the
>intermediate band engaging like it should but not releasing the
>reverse/high clutch unless you pull it down to "2" manually. So, unless
>anybody here can come up with something else to try, I will pull the trans
>at my next convenient weekend and take it to my rebuilder for diagnosis.
>I'll let y'all know what we find.

Sounds like you might need to readjust the tension on the bands. A good
repair manual like Chilton's or Haynes should have the information regarding
the torque readings necessary for how tight the adjuster screws should be,
and
where to find them. I think the C6 has the adjustment externally, like the
C4, so
you probably won't have to take the transmission out or dismantle it.



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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:30:01 -0500
From: adam.hicks ppctx.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Leaky rear main


I have a leaky rear main (sounds like something I should speak to a
proctologist about) It's been this way since I bought the truck (77
F150 460/C6) My simple question is: How hard is this going to be
to fix? Pull the drive shaft and drop the tranny,etc? It's
something I've never done, but between me and a few of my
mechanically inclined friends, I think we can do it (?) Please
help with any info!

Thanks in advance!
Adam Hicks
Ft. Worth(less), TX

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:56:40 -0500
From: "Serian"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?

>Anyone who could tell me where my trouble spot is with this oil, I would
>greatly appreciate it.

I would suspect the rear main seal.


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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:50:15 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 wannabe

At 09:15 AM 1/19/99 , you wrote:
>Have you tried adjusting the intermediate band? Maybe it's off enough
>to cause a bind, that requires force to release it. Also, are you using
>type F or ATF? All the C-6's I've had preferred type F. ATF is
>supposed to work, but type F is a little bit different hydraulicly, and
>might make a difference in your case.
>
Isn't F the same as ATF ? I mean isn't ATF, just Automatic Transmission
Fluid, then under that it should say Type F or Dexron III or whatever you
happen to be looking at ? Type F would just be ... well a Type of ATF ....


Maybe I'm confused again ..
Bill
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:46:42 -0800
From: Sean Hess
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Another PacNW yard

All you PacNW types should check out a little yard called "All Ford Used Truck
Parts," which is located in Portland near the corner of 19th and SE Pershing.
They sometimes advertise in the back of the Truck Trader, and you can reach
them at (503) 234-5591. I was able to pick up a horn button for my '69, and
they also cover all of the later body styles. They had about 10 partially
disassembled engine blocks when I was there (primarily 351s and 400s), a whole
bunch of suspension parts, windows, doors, etc. I was looking mostly for 4x2
stuff, not 4x4, so I don't know about that stuff. Prices seemed reasonable,
and the service was friendly.

Dr. Hess

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Mazama Cultural Resource Services (MCRS)
10910 N.E. Knott St.
Portland, Oregon 97220
(503) 261-8591
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:51:12 -0800
From: Sean Hess
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

With all of the recent traffic on PacNW Fords and FTE-ers, I was wondering if a
Portland/Vancouver area get together wouldn't be good. I don't have the time
to go to hear the speaker that coming to Seattle, but I could definitely find
time to rendezvous some weekend if it was more local.

Beaches, a quasi-hip grill/restaurant in Vancouver, seems to cater to
automotive enthusiasts. Does anyone know when we might be getting enough sun
shine to justify washing our trucks and taking them for a drive? March?
April?

Dr. Hess

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:06:05 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

>that I would get used to them and one would snap on a corner, I've never had
>this happen but it would be very interesting I'm sure. But from the sounds
>of it this is an unwarrented fear.


Not to reinstill that fear, but the new Mustang Cobra's and maybe GT's have
had problems with snapping rear sway bars ... hmmm ... haven't read about
those in months (quit reading that website), so I'm fuzzy on it, but as it
turns out they dont' suffer any adverse affects. There is more of a push
in the corners, but I have a hunch they're cornering a bit quicker than you
(hope they are anyway!). Its good that they aren't overly affected too
because it seems like those sway bars are backordered a couple of months or so!

Anyway good luck, and have fun with the rust free stuff, all we find is
rusted over rust

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:12:21 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

I'm up for a get together but just what exactly is sunshine? I notice every
morning that the color outside changes from black to gray but I seem to have
a vague recollection of seeing a real pretty blue color in the sky awhile
back...maybe it was just my imagination.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Sean Hess
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 7:58 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?


>With all of the recent traffic on PacNW Fords and FTE-ers, I was wondering
if a
>Portland/Vancouver area get together wouldn't be good. I don't have the
time
>to go to hear the speaker that coming to Seattle, but I could definitely
find
>time to rendezvous some weekend if it was more local.
>
>Beaches, a quasi-hip grill/restaurant in Vancouver, seems to cater to
>automotive enthusiasts. Does anyone know when we might be getting enough
sun
>shine to justify washing our trucks and taking them for a drive? March?
> April?
>

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:19:49 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 2v -4v swap

Hi Chris,

You're on the right track! The 4V will make a huge difference in performance.
Have you looked at manifolds yet? You'll most likely end up with an aluminum
Edelbrock Performer or something like this if you want to go with 4 barrel.

Its going to take a day or so to do the job between gasket scraping, setting
up new throttle linkage, etc. Regarding linkage, I remember (this is about 18
years ago now) I had to slightly modify the stock "pull" rod. You'll also want
to keep track of where the pushrods came from since they have to come out
before the manifold can come off.

You'll want to chuck the cork end gaskets and use just silicone there. Also, I
think you have to remove an alignment stud from the top of the block, but this
is easy with a pair of vice grips. This is indicated in the instructions with
the manifold.

Like Grant said, the stock manifold is heavy....so watch your back if you
don't have some kind of hoist!

Let us know how it goes.

Colorado Jeff




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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:19:55 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fuel tank filler problem

Hi Ray,

What year truck are you working on? Sounds like one with the tank in the cab?
If so, you should be able to pull the pickup tube out real easy, just 5 or 6
screws and removal of the fuel line. Be sure your ignition is off first and
your sending unit wires are all disconnected...Once you pull it out, you can
see what the problem is. I think there is some kind of filter deal on the end
of the tube that gets plugged or comes loose or something....

I vaguely remember having to braze this filter deal back together...something
any welding shop should be able to easily handle....

Let us know what you find out!

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:24:53 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

At 10:12 AM 1/19/99 , you wrote:
>I'm up for a get together but just what exactly is sunshine? I notice every
>morning that the color outside changes from black to gray but I seem to have
>a vague recollection of seeing a real pretty blue color in the sky awhile
>back...maybe it was just my imagination.
>
We had that for a couple weeks here, but the last two days have made up for
it. A bit chilly by southern standards, but great weather for a native
Iowan (well W. IL, but who's gonna quibble over a few miles?) ... want me
to take a picture of the huge glowing ball in the sky turning all the snow
a beatiful white? Its quite blinding ... both literally and figuratively ...

:) 4wheeling and Sun don't usually mix around here


Laters
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:27:24 -0600 (CST)
From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 2v to 4v; heavy intake

If the hood is off, you can climb up in the engine compartment, one foot on each of the
side supports, bend your knees really good, then lift with your legs. hardest part is
getting out of the truck with it, but if you put some cardboard/cloth on the side, you can
set the intake down, climb out, then lift again.

The hoist sure sounds much easier.
Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 4 speed
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:34:30 -0800
From: "James A. Doty"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

Hi Sean:

That sounds like a good idea. I doubt that I'll be washing mine
befor spring though.

I watched the weather last night and it looks like we're in for
rain for the foreseable future.

Sean Hess wrote:
>
> With all of the recent traffic on PacNW Fords and FTE-ers, I was wondering if a
> Portland/Vancouver area get together wouldn't be good. I don't have the time
> to go to hear the speaker that coming to Seattle, but I could definitely find
> time to rendezvous some weekend if it was more local.
>
> Beaches, a quasi-hip grill/restaurant in Vancouver, seems to cater to
> automotive enthusiasts. Does anyone know when we might be getting enough sun
> shine to justify washing our trucks and taking them for a drive? March?
> April?
>
> Dr. Hess
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Sean Hess, Ph.D.
> Mazama Cultural Resource Services (MCRS)
> 10910 N.E. Knott St.
> Portland, Oregon 97220
> (503) 261-8591
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:35:12 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

>I'm up for a get together but just what exactly is sunshine? I notice every
>morning that the color outside changes from black to gray but I seem to
have
>a vague recollection of seeing a real pretty blue color in the sky awhile
>back...maybe it was just my imagination.


It's a big lie. Sunshine is just an old wives tale.
Don't believe any of it...
-srw

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:57:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Farcas
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?

Well...
Could be the rear main seal, but I don't think there's that much oil
leaking. I checked my spark plugs, as I said, and they appeared to have
carbon deposits, not oil. There is a small hint of blue occasionally
from the exhaust when I rev it, and I think the smell of either unburnt
gas or oil is present. I can't figure ooooout whcih one it is...


-Justin Farcas


> > In a
message dated
1/18/99 9:44:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > ae571 seorf.ohiou.edu writes:
>
>
> is a leak for engine oil. >>
>
> It does take a long time to lose oil through a small drip. However, it does
> not take much going by the rings or valve seals it make oil go away fast. Do
> you have blue smoke occasionally from the exhaust? Not black, brown or white
> any blue indicates oil burning. If you had half a quart per week of oil going
> out of rear main seal you likely would have most of the underbody coated in
> oil and dripping from several places. As for the distributor, in my opinion
> this might be a line to follow. Most Fords built in the 60's and 70's unless
> we are dealing with a dual diaphragm require the distributor to be connected
> to the spark port on the carburetor. This port has no vacuum when the engine
> is idling. Sounds to me like you plugged it into the manifold vacuum, in
> which case the idle speed would increase because you just advanced the timing
> about 10 degrees. But, if the diaphragm on the distributor is leaking then it
> would idle rough. Let me add, having the distributor unplugged probably
> contributes a great deal to the poor mileage.
>
> As an oh by the way, most Chevys have their distributors connected to manifold
> vacuum. So you have maximum advance from the diaphragm at an idle and as
> manifold vacuum drops you get a spark retard while the centrifugal advance
> continues to advance spark. The conventional Ford set up has no diaphragm
> advance at idle and as RPM increases the centrifugal advance increases spark
> and so does the diaphragm from the spark port on the carb when the throttle is
> just slightly open such as when you are cruising. I have set Ford engines up
> to operate in the GM mode and have found the Ford method gets better mileage.
> To confirm this I set my 1978 Chevy Van to run in the Ford mode and it gets a
> little better mileage with my style of driving.
> Burt Hill Kennewick, WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 (Pacific Northwest)
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:01:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Farcas
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?

I'd say that's about fair, maybe a little pricey. About 3k would be a
good deal for that one.
>
> hi, i dono who you are and i'm sure u dono who i am, and this has nothing to
> do w/ oil leaks but... please help. My name is jeffrey orkin and i am 14, i
> found a 69 ford f100 truck, "all orginal", rebuilt motor less than 10,000
> miles on it (the rebuilt one), new tires less than 10,000 miles, A/C (he
> said factory but i dono about that) "3on the tree", 264 straight 6, new
> starter, original bed needs redone (new wood), no power steering, paint O.K.
> i've seen it, (red) $3,500
> good deal or not??? send this to your friends see what they think, i'm only
> 14 and having to pay for this myself so i don't wana get ripped, thanx alot
> and look foward to hearing from you...
> ~jeffrey~
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?
>
>
> >In a message dated 1/18/99 4:03:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >cannandale netpointe.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:45 PM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > >your rear-main crack seal is bad... >>
> >
> >Classic case of a Freudian Slip my friend. By the way, has that pulley
> showed
> >up yet?
> >
> >Darrell Duggan
> >74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:39:49 -0600
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thanks

Hi,

Thanks again for all the help with my power steering gear box and pulley

change on the pump on my 74 F350. Got her back on the road and drives like

a dream. My wife can drive it now, which in turn got me the go ahead to paint

it. Momma didn't raise no fool.

Later

Larry


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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:17:02 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

In a message dated 1/19/99 7:02:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, dcbeatty rmi.net
writes:


one guy can get it in and out of there without hurting himself.
>>

Now I feel good. When I was tearing apart the 390 I was gonna build for the
F-250 I bought, I tore that off myself. Used the carb as a handle and up we
went. Hardest part was stepping from the core support, down to the bumper and
then the ground without killing myself. I'm still not sure how I did it. I
dont even eat spinach.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:04:58 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

>
> one guy can get it in and out of there without hurting himself.
> >>
>
>Now I feel good. When I was tearing apart the 390 I was gonna build for the
>F-250 I bought, I tore that off myself. Used the carb as a handle and up we
>went. Hardest part was stepping from the core support, down to the bumper and
>then the ground without killing myself. I'm still not sure how I did it. I
>dont even eat spinach.
>
Wow, that is impressive, though off is easier ... when you're putting it
back on you need at least one friend. I always use 2 (well not use, but
you know what I mean) ... anyway the easiest I've found (other than engine
hoist, which I haven't tried yet) is to put a chain on opposite corners of
the carb flange, then put a pole/rod/lifting utensil through the chain with
one guy on either end, then a third guy (or gal, even my mom, who's tall
but very thin did this part) just lines the manifold up and hooks on the
water pump hose (if the water pump is still on) while everyone else slowly
lowers and holds as necessary.

Hope this helps some of you sometime ... done this a couple of times, just
need to be sure you're tall enough and strong enough (mine was 4x4, the
shortest working on the truck was 5'9" so we didnt have a problem, but I
could see one if you were much shorter and trying to lift over the sides of
the fender...)




Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:57:10 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Dash repair kits (Armor All)

If you intend to use any plastic/vinyl paint, or do any
painting for that matter, the silicone is near impossible
to remove and will cause fisheyes. Best to just keep it
away from your truck entirely.

Thanks for the URL, Jeff.

Mark in SW Washington
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'74 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:42:24 -0500 (EST)
From: CLARE WATERMAN
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

c'mon guys...I'm 5'4" and 115 lbs and i did the swap myself on my
f250/360 with no pulleys, hoists, or helpers...it's not muchmore than
80-90 lbs or so. put a foot on either frame rail, and lift! ;-)



although it is the truth, dont get bent- i just
mean a little friendly ribbing......

clare

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, William S Hart wrote:

> >
> > one guy can get it in and out of there without hurting himself.
> > >>
> >
> >Now I feel good. When I was tearing apart the 390 I was gonna build for the
> >F-250 I bought, I tore that off myself. Used the carb as a handle and up we
> >went. Hardest part was stepping from the core support, down to the bumper and
> >then the ground without killing myself. I'm still not sure how I did it. I
> >dont even eat spinach.
> >
> Wow, that is impressive, though off is easier ... when you're putting it
> back on you need at least one friend. I always use 2 (well not use, but
> you know what I mean) ... anyway the easiest I've found (other than engine
> hoist, which I haven't tried yet) is to put a chain on opposite corners of
> the carb flange, then put a pole/rod/lifting utensil through the chain with
> one guy on either end, then a third guy (or gal, even my mom, who's tall
> but very thin did this part) just lines the manifold up and hooks on the
> water pump hose (if the water pump is still on) while everyone else slowly
> lowers and holds as necessary.
>
> Hope this helps some of you sometime ... done this a couple of times, just
> need to be sure you're tall enough and strong enough (mine was 4x4, the
> shortest working on the truck was 5'9" so we didnt have a problem, but I
> could see one if you were much shorter and trying to lift over the sides of
> the fender...)
>
>
>
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> Bill
>
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Department of Biology
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC, 27599-3280

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:04:18 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

>c'mon guys...I'm 5'4" and 115 lbs and i did the swap myself on my
>f250/360 with no pulleys, hoists, or helpers...it's not muchmore than
>80-90 lbs or so. put a foot on either frame rail, and lift! ;-)

Okay, my girlfriend might be able to do that, but there is no way I'm
getting my 6'3" frame in there and keeping my head on. I may be thinnish
(not the country, the weight), but there is no way I can keep the hood, my
head and stand on a frame rail ... and I don't want to dent an inner fender....

Did I say I had problems taking it out ? Oh I meant putting it in by
myself ... the next one I plan to put in while the engine is on a stand in
the middle of the garage (well a little to the one side of a parking stall
anyway :) That will probably be with the water pump off too ...

Not sayin it cant be done, just that its fun to watch short people try and
reach in there :)

> although it is the truth, dont get bent- i just
>mean a little friendly ribbing......
>
no problem ... tryin to picture someone that small straining trying to
break it loose ... then picturing that person sittin hard on the radiator
when it lets go.... :)

Laters
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:34:12 -0500
From: "Clare Waterman-Storer, Ph.D."
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 2v -4v swap

> tryin to picture someone that small straining trying to
> break it loose ... then picturing that person sittin hard on the radiator
> when it lets go.... :)
>



yep- thats the picture--good thing i didnt lose my grip or i would have launched
myself out from under the hood and across the yard!

> Laters
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:38:00 -0600
From: "Jeffrey Orkin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil leaks...?"

i am in jackson MS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: sam weatherby
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil
leaks...?"


>What part of the country are you in where trucks are so cheap???
>I think when I buy a new truck it will start with a road trip to someplace
>drier than here...
> -srw
>
>Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
>SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
>'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
>'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
>'98 HD FXD Super Glide
>'65 F100
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: J Elliott
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 4:53 AM
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 14 and not wanting to be ripped was "Oil
leaks...?"
>
>
>>ABSOLUTELY PERFECT condition as far as structural rust, and NEAR PERFECT
>>condition for cosmetic rust, the BED necessarily pretty, but structurally
>>sound to the point of needing NO REPAIR repair to let it work, HAD POWER
>>STEERING, and had every piece of literature, window sticker, etc. from
>>original sale, had all service records, HAD ALL RECEIPTS FOR THE ENGINE
>>REBUILD, from a firm that showed that at least to the purchaser of the
>>rebuild there was a warranty, and if I knew the rebuilding firm was okay,
I
>>WOULD STILL HAVE TO THINK HARD ABOUT PAYING HALF THAT PRICE.
>>In U.S. dollars that is. If all that were true and you were talking
>Canadian
>>dollars, I would say it would be a good deal.
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:48:53 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil leaks...?

nope, not yet.. :)

cannandale
'78 F240 4x4, 460

At 07:55 PM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 1/18/99 4:03:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>cannandale netpointe.com writes:
>
>
>
>
> At 05:45 PM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >your rear-main crack seal is bad... >>
>
>Classic case of a Freudian Slip my friend. By the way, has that pulley
showed
>up yet?
>
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:32:50 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Leaky rear main

Well, if you have a two piece neoprene seal then all you have to do is take
off the pan, remove some of the main bearing caps, and slide the new seal
into the block, and put the new ones into the rear main bearing cap. Im
pretty sure that its a two piece, but if not, you might have to remove the
tranny, im not sure. I'll let another fte give you advice if its not a
2piece.. :)


cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460



At 10:49 AM 1/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
> I have a leaky rear main (sounds like something I should speak to a
> proctologist about) It's been this way since I bought the truck (77
> F150 460/C6) My simple question is: How hard is this going to be
> to fix? Pull the drive shaft and drop the tranny,etc? It's
> something I've never done, but between me and a few of my
> mechanically inclined friends, I think we can do it (?) Please
> help with any info!
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Adam Hicks
> Ft. Worth(less), TX
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:43:01 -0800
From: Steve & Rockette Leitch
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

At 07:51 AM 1/19/99 -0800, you wrote:
>With all of the recent traffic on PacNW Fords and FTE-ers, I was wondering if
a
>Portland/Vancouver area get together wouldn't be good. I don't have the
time
>to go to hear the speaker that coming to Seattle, but I could definitely
find
>time to rendezvous some weekend if it was more local.
>
>Beaches, a quasi-hip grill/restaurant in Vancouver, seems to cater to
>automotive enthusiasts. Does anyone know when we might be getting enough
sun
>shine to justify washing our trucks and taking them for a drive? March?
> April?
>

What about the swapmeet weekend??
My truck won't be able to attend, but the Rockette will......

Steve & the Rockette


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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:45:53 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Dash repair kits (Armor All)

Yes, but there is a way to fix the fish eyes.... smoothe works wonders..

draco pacifier.com wrote:

> If you intend to use any plastic/vinyl paint, or do any
> painting for that matter, the silicone is near impossible
> to remove and will cause fisheyes. Best to just keep it
> away from your truck entirely.
>
> Thanks for the URL, Jeff.
>
> Mark in SW Washington
> --
> '74 F-100 4X4
> '74 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:49:39 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

Sounds real good to me, are we going to listen to the weather men to decide when its
going to be clear, if we are, count me out, they can't predict anything.
Mike

James A. Doty wrote:

> Hi Sean:
>
> That sounds like a good idea. I doubt that I'll be washing mine
> befor spring though.
>
> I watched the weather last night and it looks like we're in for
> rain for the foreseable future.
>
> Sean Hess wrote:
> >
> > With all of the recent traffic on PacNW Fords and FTE-ers, I was wondering if a
> > Portland/Vancouver area get together wouldn't be good. I don't have the time
> > to go to hear the speaker that coming to Seattle, but I could definitely find
> > time to rendezvous some weekend if it was more local.
> >
> > Beaches, a quasi-hip grill/restaurant in Vancouver, seems to cater to
> > automotive enthusiasts. Does anyone know when we might be getting enough sun
> > shine to justify washing our trucks and taking them for a drive? March?
> > April?
> >
> > Dr. Hess
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Sean Hess, Ph.D.
> > Mazama Cultural Resource Services (MCRS)
> > 10910 N.E. Knott St.
> > Portland, Oregon 97220
> > (503) 261-8591
> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/schess/index.html
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:09:09 -0800
From: "Jacques and Barbara DeKalb"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pacific Northwest wrecking yards

> BTW, the wrecking yard that you can see off I-5 just north of Centralia,
had
> a '70 crewcab SNB the last time I was by there. The frontend and front
> sheetmetal was gone but you can get that off a parts truck. All the rest
> was there.
>
> Jacques, Bend, Ore.

Was this truck a 4x4?

Not a 4X4. I agree with the earlier comment that any 4X4 that makes it to
the wrecking yard is going to be nothing but scrap.

Jacques, Bend, Ore
"Long on Crewcabs"



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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:31:09 -0500
From: "Ken Schneider"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 wannabe

ATF = Type F, ATF stands for Automatic Transmission Fluid.

Dexron/Mercon III is the other kind, I believe for 77 and up.

Although when I had my 68 rebuilt this past spring, they said not to use
type F or ATF since it was not needed. I asked why and they said that the
tranny was rebuilt using modern parts designed for Dexron III style fluid...
4k over last summer, no problems yet other than leaks... another story...

Ken Schneider
68 F-100 360/C6/3.25

> Isn't F the same as ATF ? I mean isn't ATF, just Automatic Transmission
> Fluid, then under that it should say Type F or Dexron III or whatever you
> happen to be looking at ? Type F would just be ... well a Type
> of ATF ....
>
>
> Maybe I'm confused again ..
> Bill

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:58:49 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Time for a Portland/Vancouver meet?

The Pacific NW Chapter of the Ford Galaxie Club of America is having
an event in Portland area in May. Cool Ford trucks and Galaxies might
be a match. For details, contact Joe at galaxiesNW aol.com. All of
my reference materials is packed due to a major house remodel that is
coming to an end. Otherwise, I'd give you the date directly.

You might want to keep the last Sunday in July open for a really neat
show at Kelson's in Kent, Wa. My generic car club puts it on at a
location that has a complete antique gas station. We get over 100....


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