61-79-list-digest Tuesday, May 11 1999 Volume 03 : Number 159



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - I know it is a repeat!
Re: FTE 61-79 - C5AE-A an FE what??
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 Oil schematics
Re: FTE 61-79 - 65 F-100 with alternator light
FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust
FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - 351M noise
FTE 61-79 - Cleaning up after your truck
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - 428 Pistons?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Let's all do a 410 swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Intro
RE: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust
FTE 61-79 - 410 Mercury
FTE 61-79 - carb..Size???Whats it from???
Re: FTE 61-79 - Distributor Question ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M
Re: FTE 61-79 - 428 Pistons?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 Mercury
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - Distributor pin whoes
FTE 61-79 - oil pressure sending unit location
FTE 61-79 - Vibrating 429
FTE 61-79 - 385series balance
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 Mercury
Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance
Re: FTE 61-79 - Let's all do a 410 swap
FTE 61-79 - Shifter Boot Mystery Solved
Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance
FTE 61-79 - Carb
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - oil pressure sending unit location
Re: FTE 61-79 - Carb
Re: FTE 61-79 - Carb
Re: FTE 61-79 - Carb
FTE 61-79 - Carb
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - RE:cleaning up after your truck
FTE 61-79 - 410 questions
Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance
Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 questions

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:23:36 -0400
From: "Upchurch, Jason"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - I know it is a repeat!

Hey yall just thought I would fill ya in on my full time burning alternator
light, yet the baby is charging great. For all of you that said check the
stator wire, you were absolutely correct! It appears that when the old girl
sat up for "X" amount of years the stator wire coming from the alt. had
become engorged with crud and simply broke free of itself. Fixed it
yesterday with the help of the wiring diagram I was sent, as well as a good
volt/ohm meter! I just want to say thanks! What do you guys think of a 300
inline 6 out of a 77 hooked to a c-4 out of a 72 LTD? What do you think
about it overheating when you dare to go above 60mph? Done all the
essentials, fan shroud, thermostat, new hoses, and even made sure my heater
core wasn't clogged. The cap has a rating of 13lbs. Any ideas would
greatly be appreciated because I drive my beauty to work on an interstate-
I-40 for those of you around Raleigh NC, and that just will not do!

I would like to thank you all in advance because I am sure we can fix this
the same way we did the alternator light!!
E-mail me please at :
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:52:14 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C5AE-A an FE what??

> Jason & Kathy are correct I was asking about the 330 FT block. Why would I even
> think of such a combination? A 3.875 bore with a 3.98 stroke makes the engine
> under square, this makes torque while minimizing the displacement. While such an
> engine would peak early in the RPM band and probably not even touch 5000 RPM it
> should make a great deal of torque at low RPM and get good gas mileage perfect
> for a work truck that needs to traverse construction sites loaded. But if the
> parts to try it are that high it is an experiment that won't happen.

IMHO you'd be wasting your money.

That block will bore out to 4.05 +.030 or even .060. If it's an FT
block it'l usually go out to 4.13. Some standard FE blocks can too, but
I'd rather build a 410 for a truck. The 410 is the perfect truck
engine.

It has big enough bores to breathe well, and with the right piston,
usually a dished piston that comes up very close to .000 deck, resists
pinging well. The extra stroke doesn't drop the LR ratio below what's
considered to be acceptable at 1.63, same as a 428 of course. And the
main thing is that nowhere in it's design is it stretching it's limits.
the bore size doesn't stress the limits of the block or the head bolts
to clamp the cylinders tight. The heads flow the perfect velocity and
volume to fill and empty those cylinders. The stroke doesn't make it
ponderous, it will still zing with headers and the right cam. It can
be a big brawny truck engine for a very long time, like a 390 but with
more power. I wish I had one. I'm looking for a crank for the FE I'm
hoping to get on the stand as soon as I get back to work.

I'm not trying to tell you what to build at all, just my advice. Ford
made the best truck engines on the planet. The 410 is one of the
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:02:03 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 Oil schematics

>of "Normal", then I changed the oil and it went to no oil >pressure. I know
>the pump works (just replaced it and it's new from >Ford) so my next step is
>that something is blocking one of the passages >from the filter housing. It
>seems that the oil filter had come apart >and rubber pieces from something
>inside the filter were missing (fram >filter). So I think I have some rubber
>blocking the passages on the >left side of the motor.
>
>> Any ideas? Does anyone have an oiling schematic? It came out of a '72
>>Lincoln Conti. The motor is a brand new rebuild about 5000 miles ago.
>
>shanev adelphia.net

Have you checked the pickup screen on the oil pump ? If it gets clogged it
can starve the pump, a problem with high mileage later 302's for anyone
looking at those ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:05:54 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 65 F-100 with alternator light

What do you guys think of a 300
>inline 6 out of a 77 hooked to a c-4 out of a 72 LTD? What do you think
>about it overheating when you dare to go above 60mph?

bummer's what I think ....

Done all the
>essentials, fan shroud, thermostat, new hoses, and even made sure my heater
>core wasn't clogged. The cap has a rating of 13lbs. Any ideas would
>greatly be appreciated because I drive my beauty to work on an interstate-
>I-40 for those of you around Raleigh NC, and that just will not do!
>E-mail me please at :
>jupchurch imps0014.us.dg.com

Are you sure its overheating ? My 360 "overheated" every time I'd sit at
a stoplight or drive over 65mph ... turned out to be a bad sending unit, it
was a steady 170 unless I romped on it, then idled for 5 minutes, at which
point it would creap up to 175.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:32:28 -0700
From: John & Iva McKay
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust

need some help with a '78 F-150 4x4. On the top of the steering box is a
slotted bolt with a lock nut. What is the adjustment for and what's the
proper way to adjust it ? Thanks

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John L. McKay
Mesa, Arizona
'67 F-100 Custom Cab
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:43:32 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

I need some advice for my '78 F250 400M.... I want to put duel exhaust
on it with something that has a nice, tasteful rumble. I don't want
anything that will set off car alarms and rattle the neighbors windows.
Just a slight rumble that gets attention from other people. Are glass
packs too loud? My friend has a '78 Bronco with glass packs the exhaust
pipes come out to each side of the truck so you don't get the true sound
of the exhaust. I want my pipes to come straight out the back.
If anyone can understand what I'm talking about.... a response would be
greatly appreciated !! ! !

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Rob
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:47:33 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M noise

Nick,

My engine had a noise that turned out to be the water pump bearing. I was
sure that I had a slapping piston. Just an idea.


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:47:27 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cleaning up after your truck

Daniel,

Your local parts house will have professional cleaning products. I'm cheap
so more common useful items are:

To soak up oil spills: cat litter. Don't put it in the garbage, though.
Very illegal. It has to go to the recyclers.

To clean other messes on concrete floors, soak in Simple Green. SG is a
little expensive, but you can mix it for different strengths and it works
great.

Oil and grease in clothes: dab a little Goop hand cleaner on the spot, then
wash. Simple Green works good here, too.

Hope this helps to keep you out of the dog house. :-)

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:02:33 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

>I need some advice for my '78 F250 400M.... I want to put duel exhaust
>on it with something that has a nice, tasteful rumble

Do you have headers ? How about 4wheel drive ? Hard to run duals with 4wd.


. I don't want
>anything that will set off car alarms and rattle the neighbors windows.
>Just a slight rumble that gets attention from other people. Are glass
>packs too loud?

Depends on pipe size and how well your engine is running and all kinds of
neat things. I'm running Super Turbo's on my truck with I think 2" exhaust
(been several years), all through the stock exhaust. Inside it sounds
really tame, but when I do occasionally get to hear it from outside I get a
nice meaty rumble. I have set off car alarms though. 'Course so has our
69 Cougar, its running full stock exhaust, so I think a lot of it has to do
with the sensitivity of the alarms. I've never had anyone complain about
my truck being too loud. Well Mom did, but it was in the attached garage
with the door between the house and the garage open, so I don't think that
counts :)


My friend has a '78 Bronco with glass packs the exhaust
>pipes come out to each side of the truck so you don't get the true sound
>of the exhaust. I want my pipes to come straight out the back.

Mine do come straight out the back, but with the 4x4 the routing is
actually quite a bit more complicated than that for me. If you are working
on a 4x4 you might look at Marc's exhaust page ...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/SandersonHeaders.html


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:03:28 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 428 Pistons?

Hey Marko,

Did you say stock 428 pistons give about 9:1??? I keep hearing that they are
closer to 10:1??? Or, were you talking about 410 pistons???

CJ
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:16:24 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Let's all do a 410 swap

In a message dated 5/10/99 8:56:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ballingr ldd.net
writes:

> The 410 is the perfect truck engine.


Let me say first that from what I have been reading here lately about the 410
(and on and off periodically over the last several weeks) "I want one!"

However, if the 410 is the greatest thing since Stu's NOS lifter
springs......how come it was not in production for more years and offered in
more car lines and/or trucks?

Stock Man
(a/k/a Thom B.)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:16:27 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

No it doesn't have headers.... stock exhaust.
And it's 4x4


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Rob
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:35:02 EDT
From: Mikerenf aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Intro

Hi I'm mike
Just bought a 66 f-100 custom and getting ready to restore it. Have 2 side
tanks on it. There is some rust pockets inside the cab, just below the
drivers seat. and on passenger side bed panel
if you have nay suggestions for fixing these would love to hear it.

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:39:44 -0400
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust

> ----------
> From: John & Iva McKay[SMTP:djspaints earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:32 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Cc: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust
>
> need some help with a '78 F-150 4x4. On the top of the steering box is a
> slotted bolt with a lock nut. What is the adjustment for and what's the
> proper way to adjust it ? Thanks
>
> --
> John L. McKay
> Mesa, Arizona
> '67 F-100 Custom Cab
>
It sets the preload on the sector gear. The proper thing to do is nothing,
don't touch it!

Tracy




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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:35:08 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 410 Mercury

I'll agree with William in that the 410 is a perfect truck motor with
gobs of torque-it's just too bad Ford didn't pick it up and put it into
full production! And 428 cranks are kinda rare and expensive, if you can
find one! A friend of mine had a 410 in a 67 Galaxie. It had an RV cam,
and it'd really move that car! I'd like to put a 428 crank in a 427
block for about 440-450 cubes! Oh well. Happy driving!
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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 08:39:06 -0700
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - carb..Size???Whats it from???

Can anybody tell me what this carb is from and size from this part #
Its an autolite 4 bbl # C1AE-9510-AH...thanks
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Joe 1968 F-100 4x4 302 NP435 "Its not pretty but its gets me there"
1969 F-250 4x4 390 NP435 "Undecided Future"
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:37:39 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Distributor Question ?

>From: "don"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Distributor Question ?
>
> I have a 1971 Ford 400 M that I am putting in
>a 1979 Ford F-150. As the 79 had a electronic
>ignition in it and I want to put an electronic
>ignition in the 71 engine Can I just get a
>electronic distributor from a 79 400,429,460
>and will all the rest of the wiring be the same
>so I can just plug it in. any help is appreciated

Yo Don:

In a word, yes! All engines in the 335 series (351C/351M/400) and 385 series
(429/460) use the same distributor. It is actually a distributor that was
originally designed for the 460 in 1968 Lincolns.

If you have all the rest of the DuraSpark II wiring harness and control box
(from your '79), all you need to do w/ the '71 engine is drop in a DSII
distributor and use a DSII-compatible coil. (Any standard coil can be used, if
you're willing to modify the coil's primary circuit connectors. Otherwise, just
get a coil set up for the standard DSII "horseshoe" connector.)

>also, what years distributor can I use that
>would be the same ?

Any 335 or 385 series DSII distributor will work. The DSII system was
introduced in 1975 on 351M, 400, and 460 engines. It was used on M-blocks until
production ended in 1982. It was still used on 460s in HD trucks through 1984,
maybe later.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:46:36 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M

>From: Nick Jessee
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M
>
>i have a '77 with the 351 M.
>At about 2200rpm I have a knocking sound
>its too light to be a rod or main. It sounds to
>me like a lifter/valvetrain noise. It only
>happens under little or no load if you step
>on it the noise goes away. A friend has a
>truck with the same engine and it makes
>an identical noise.does
>anyone know what it is?

Yo Nick:

How many miles are on the engine in your truck?

I think that any internal engine sound that goes away w/ the application of
power means big trouble. I'm thinking rod knock or piston slap. There is
nothing you can do to fix these short of rebuilding the engine. Sometimes, you
can use a heavier oil to slow down (or mask) the deterioration of rod knock, but
either of these problems will keep getting worse until you rebuild the engine.

I also saw John's suggestion about the water pump, and I would certainly
recommend you do everything you can to isolate the noise and hope for the best.
The most damning evidence, however, is that the noise goes away when you apply
power. Generally, accessory noises don't do that.

Good luck w/ your truck.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:48:51 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 428 Pistons?

At 10:03 AM 10/05/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Hey Marko,
>
>Did you say stock 428 pistons give about 9:1??? I keep hearing that they are
>closer to 10:1??? Or, were you talking about 410 pistons???
>
>CJ

410 ones. I don't know what 428 ones do, except go up and down.


marko :^]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:50:39 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 Mercury

At 09:35 AM 10/05/99 -0500, you wrote:
I'd like to put a 428 crank in a 427
>block for about 440-450 cubes! Oh well. Happy driving!

That motor I affectionately call "Stu's Revenge", in other words, it works
out to
a 454 Ford.


marko :^]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:37 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

At 09:43 AM 10/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I need some advice for my '78 F250 400M.... I want to put duel exhaust
>on it with something that has a nice, tasteful rumble. I don't want
>anything that will set off car alarms and rattle the neighbors windows.
>Just a slight rumble that gets attention from other people. Are glass
>packs too loud? My friend has a '78 Bronco with glass packs the exhaust
>pipes come out to each side of the truck so you don't get the true sound
>of the exhaust. I want my pipes to come straight out the back.
>If anyone can understand what I'm talking about.... a response would be
>greatly appreciated !! ! !
>
>--
>Rob

In my experience, if you're on a budget, just get cheap Turbos, like Thrush
ones. They sound awesome (I've had some, albeit on an FE) and they're dirt
cheap. Unless you want to go the opposite and get some flowmaster or
something...


marko

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:44:28 EDT
From: JefriHansn aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Distributor pin whoes

I'm always a few days behind in reading all this mail - but wanted to
add my 2 cents to the guy with the distributor pin that keeps shearing and
advise he was given. My truck did the same thing a couple weeks ago on the
interstate the instant I left off the gas - 79 F-150 4WD 429CU/NP435.
I rad a bit of advise you were given about replacing the pin, and
putting another smaller one inside that one. That will work, but only try it
if your ready to do that rebuild! A number of years ago, my mom had a 68
Falcon wagon with a 289. One day it up and died on her. Dad tracked it down
to the distributor pin sheared. We spent all night one night taking the oil
pan off and found it full of the old valve seal pieces. how, to this day we
have never been able to explain it - but one of those pieces about the size
of your pinky fingernail was in the oil pump - past the full screen. Cleaned
her all out - and thinking like the advise you were given, dad replaced the
pin, AND put another inside that one. Driving home that night at about O
dark thirty, the motor began making the tick tick tick of a main knock.
"Couldn't be" dad thought. Made it 17.5 miles out of the 18 to our house
when it froze up. Another peice, again, the size of a finger nail was in the
oil pump - again, How? Bottom line is - because he beefed up the pin,
instead of it shearing again - the oil pump shaft twisted in two and we just
keep go'n until it could go no more.
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:21:49 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - oil pressure sending unit location

Matt writes: >> but i cannott for the life of me find
the oil pressure sending unit on my truck(im trying to fix the oil pressure
guage)

Look on top of engine at the very rear(with air cleaner off). It is located
rearward of the intake, top center of block.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:45:55 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibrating 429

Jeff Hanson: Since you have a bad vibration roughly 2 grand and you've
replaced the rear seal 2ce for leaks, I'd bet you have the wrong flywheel
balance. You probably wound up with a 428 flywheel.(I don't know of another
flywheel that will bolt up to the 385 series engines other than the FE/FT and I
know nothing about the balance of the FT.)
I'd take the flywheel off and inspect it for a large cast in counter weight
around approx 1/16th of the circumference near the outer edge.

Good luck at any rate.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:14:22 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance

Stoney writes: >>Up
until 1979/80 the 460's were externally balanced, the 390 flywheel will
need to be balanced to this. From 79/80 on the 460 was internally balanced
and a neutral 390 flywheel should hook right up.


I've heard about this externally balanced 385 series, but I've yet to see one of
them. I have a '73, a '70, and a '68, and all are running 390/360 flywheels
with no balance and no vibration. Those externally balanced jobs must have been
special CJ's or SCJ's or police or something special. The run-of-the-mill 460's
and one 429 ('70) that I've spent most of my time on are all internally
balanced.

No argument - just stating what I've encountered.
I agree with the bit about balancing the standard flywheel to the auto flywheel.
I had this done, but the shop told me they were balanced the same, so he didn't
do anything to them(didn't charge me either).

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:33:56 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 Mercury

At 10:50 AM 5/10/99 -0600, you wrote:
>At 09:35 AM 10/05/99 -0500, you wrote:
> I'd like to put a 428 crank in a 427
>>block for about 440-450 cubes! Oh well. Happy driving!
>
>That motor I affectionately call "Stu's Revenge", in other words, it works
>out to
>a 454 Ford.

How sweet of you Marko! Think Ford would call it that???? PLEASE???????

Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:34:59 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance

Azie writes:
>Stoney writes: >>Up
>>until 1979/80 the 460's were externally balanced,
>>the 390 flywheel will need to be balanced to this.
>>From 79/80 on the 460 was internally balanced
>>and a neutral 390 flywheel should hook right up.
>
>I've heard about this externally balanced 385
>series, but I've yet to see one of them. I have a
>'73, a '70, and a '68, and all are running 390/360
>flywheels

Yo Azie:

I think Stoney has it backwards. From what I've read, the 385 series (429/460)
was internally balanced until sometime in the early '80s. Yours are all earlier
engines, internally balanced.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:43:25 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Let's all do a 410 swap

At 10:16 AM 5/10/99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 5/10/99 8:56:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ballingr ldd.net
>writes:
>
>> The 410 is the perfect truck engine.
>
>
>Let me say first that from what I have been reading here lately about the
410
>(and on and off periodically over the last several weeks) "I want one!"
>
>However, if the 410 is the greatest thing since Stu's NOS lifter
>springs......how come it was not in production for more years and offered in
>more car lines and/or trucks?

Thom B and guys, I want one too in my next project truck so I am compiling
parts for one now.
(No NOS valve springs on this one, only hot rod parts) Gotta have a real
wicked Ch*bby eater even if it does give me indigestion sometimes.

Me thinks I have located a nice set of Mercury FE valve covers with the
name embossed in them.
I think I have an non bored 352.......right Tony? And that 4
speed toploader......

And the crank, well since they are rare and expensive, I shall not share
all my sources
for (Nuclear)HOT FE parts just yet. (ssshhhh, CJ!! Don't tell anyone)
Remember boys and girls, FEAR begins with FE!!!!


8^)

Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:29:31 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Shifter Boot Mystery Solved

OK, just for completion, I figured I would pass this on. I was looking for a
shifter boot (tranny) for a 78 F-250 4x4. Ford ordered one, but when it came,
it was the wrong part. Well, after a serious effort by my parts guy there, we
found out that he did indeed have the right part number, but the boot that
came was in the wrong package!

So, the wrong part was in the package that had the correct part number
stamped on it....

Anyway, if anyone needs this number, I'll try and dig it up.....

CJ


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:57:11 PDT
From: "barry mitchell"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance

Guys,Did I read right a 360 flywheel will fit on a 429/460? Is there
anything special I need to know about?
We're gonna put a 460 police engine in a 76 4X4, it currently has a 360
4spd,we already have the bellhousing
and I take we can use the 360 fly wheel? 460 has an auto
behind it.

Barry Mitchell


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:39:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ford76 webtv.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carb

What should be done to a carberator before long term storage. I do not
want it to get punky and if I don't have to work on it when I put it
back in service all the better. Thanx in advance

Julia

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:07:20 EDT
From: ICEMAN1952 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjust

YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF HOLD OF A HAYES OR CHILTON BOOK FOR YOUR TRUCK, THE
ADJUSTMENT IS CALLED A SECTOR ADJUSTMENT, IT REQUIRES SOME SPECIAL STEPS AND
TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT FIRST CHECK ALL THE STEERING COMPONENTS FIRST.
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:11:10 EDT
From: ICEMAN1952 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

TRUSH OR CERRY BOMBS PLACED AS CLOSE UNDER THE CAB AS POSSIBLE WITH AT LEAST
1 3/4 TO 2'' PIPES GOING TO THE REAR, I, AM, CERRYS NOW AND THERE REALLY HEAD
TURNERS.
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:18:37 EDT
From: ICEMAN1952 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - oil pressure sending unit location

What type of engine?
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:22:32 EDT
From: ICEMAN1952 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carb

Are you storing just the carb?
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ford76 webtv.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carb

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:24:21 EDT
From: ICEMAN1952 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carb

as far as the metal on the carb, just try to get all the gas residue
completely, however the gaskets present another problem, don't know of
anything short of replacing them before the next use, carbs do not store
well, I'll keep asking around and see what i can dig up.
bill
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:48:50 -0700
From: Eric
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carb

Friends;
Rolls Royce recommends draining the gas and placing the carb in a can
filled completely with paraffin (kerosene) and sealing the can with a
tight-fitting lid. This should take you half way through the cleaning job,
too.
Eric

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:30:57 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

glass packs are noticable, but i really dont think that thery have a good
rumble (i run them). I personally would put single chamber flowmasters (or
dynomax, same thing, cheaper because of the name), with about 2 1/4, or 2
1/2 pipe straigt out the back with some nice tips on them.

Just one warning, you didnt say, but if your truck is a 4wd and you do any
offroading you dont want them to come straight out the back, i had that
when i first got it, backed down a hill and the bumper hit the ground,
drove the pipes into the ground and bent them up pretty bad, so i went to
side exits..

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


At 09:48 AM 5/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I need some advice for my '78 F250 400M.... I want to put duel exhaust
>on it with something that has a nice, tasteful rumble. I don't want
>anything that will set off car alarms and rattle the neighbors windows.
>Just a slight rumble that gets attention from other people. Are glass
>packs too loud? My friend has a '78 Bronco with glass packs the exhaust
>pipes come out to each side of the truck so you don't get the true sound
>of the exhaust. I want my pipes to come straight out the back.
>If anyone can understand what I'm talking about.... a response would be
>greatly appreciated !! ! !
>
>--
>Rob
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:39:11 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

also.. Just some info for anybody wanting to run dual exhaust on a 4wd.
To properly tune the exhaust from side to side, you have to run both pipes
out on the side on the transfer case, opposites the front drive shaft, then
the right side exhaust has to go out the left, and the left goes out the
right. Thats to equal up the pipe length enough to make it sound right,
but if you dont care like me, dont worry about it.. :)

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


At 10:07 AM 5/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>I need some advice for my '78 F250 400M.... I want to put duel exhaust
>>on it with something that has a nice, tasteful rumble
>
>Do you have headers ? How about 4wheel drive ? Hard to run duals with 4wd.
>
>
>. I don't want
>>anything that will set off car alarms and rattle the neighbors windows.
>>Just a slight rumble that gets attention from other people. Are glass
>>packs too loud?
>
>Depends on pipe size and how well your engine is running and all kinds of
>neat things. I'm running Super Turbo's on my truck with I think 2" exhaust
>(been several years), all through the stock exhaust. Inside it sounds
>really tame, but when I do occasionally get to hear it from outside I get a
>nice meaty rumble. I have set off car alarms though. 'Course so has our
>69 Cougar, its running full stock exhaust, so I think a lot of it has to do
>with the sensitivity of the alarms. I've never had anyone complain about
>my truck being too loud. Well Mom did, but it was in the attached garage
>with the door between the house and the garage open, so I don't think that
>counts :)
>
>
>My friend has a '78 Bronco with glass packs the exhaust
>>pipes come out to each side of the truck so you don't get the true sound
>>of the exhaust. I want my pipes to come straight out the back.
>
>Mine do come straight out the back, but with the 4x4 the routing is
>actually quite a bit more complicated than that for me. If you are working
>on a 4x4 you might look at Marc's exhaust page ...
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/SandersonHeaders.html
>
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>wish
>
>Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html
>'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:45:54 -0400
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:cleaning up after your truck

Daniel,
you wrote: "I'm a dead man if I don't get that
garage cleaned !!"
Wow, I didn't realise that a dirty garage could
be fatal! Guess I've been living on borrowed
time. But if I have to clean up after my Ford
truck (FTE content) I find that kitty litter and time
work well. In a hurry? I bought some stuff at
Costco called Oil Eater that works well too.
On the off chance that you have any, carbon
tetrachloride is the finest spot remover ever
but has been banned due to its carcinogenic
nature. Too bad, that stuff was great!
Your other options would be to stain all of the
floor (my choice) or, if it's really bad, paint.
It just sort of depends on whether your concerns
stem from SWMBO or a landlord. Good luck!

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:59:37 -0400
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 410 questions

Marko,
I've been debating a 410 build for awhile now.
I've got a 428 crank and a .060 (fresh bore) 390
block. However, the list I saw did'nt show 410
pistons larger than .030. Also, it listed stock
410 compression at 10.5-1. Which heads did
you use to get that 9.0-1 ratio? Are 410 pistons
available in .060 over? Thanks for any info you
can send my way.

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:36:07 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance

i used a 390 flywheel behind my 72 429 PI, later model 460's "i think after
82 "used a
counter balancer, on the harmonic balancer. someone else may be more familiar
with the balance than i am.

jeff grant
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:37:30 -0400
From: j arnold
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 385series balance

At 04:14 PM 5/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Stoney writes: >>Up
>until 1979/80 the 460's were externally balanced, the 390 flywheel will
>need to be balanced to this. From 79/80 on the 460 was internally balanced
>and a neutral 390 flywheel should hook right up.
>
>
>I've heard about this externally balanced 385 series, but I've yet to see
one of
>them. I have a '73, a '70, and a '68, and all are running 390/360 flywheels
>with no balance and no vibration. Those externally balanced jobs must
have been
>special CJ's or SCJ's or police or something special. The run-of-the-mill
460's
>and one 429 ('70) that I've spent most of my time on are all internally
>balanced.
>
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Hey Azie,

Just happens that I've got a 429 in the garage floor right now I just
picked up that is internally balanced (I think), spacer has counter weight
and so did flywheel. I'll write down numbers and bring them with me to the
Forge, see you there and compare notes. Probably won't have time between
now and thursday to break into it, would like to have the crank to look at
and compare numbers.

Stoney

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:53:25 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Exhaust

If you go with side exits , be sure to turn them out behind the rear tires to
prevent premature tire heating & wear...............
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