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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - EGR
FTE 61-79 - Aluminum
Re: FTE 61-79 - Point ignition
FTE 61-79 - Back on the list
FTE 61-79 - P.S. Pump color
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny troubles
FTE 61-79 - EGR
Re: FTE 61-79 - EGR
FTE 61-79 - Aluminum
FTE 61-79 - T-18
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach terminal on 360 with electronic ignition
Re: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement
[none]
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: anti sieze
Re: FTE 61-79 - Good Times
FTE 61-79 - Re: Status of radiator replacement
FTE 61-79 - Re: Blocked off EGR
RE: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement
FTE 61-79 - Tool box
FTE 61-79 - Re: Good Times - Van
FTE 61-79 - RE: Killer stereo
Re: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F-150 4WD TRANNY
Re: FTE 61-79 - T-18
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Status of radiator replacement
FTE 61-79 - bed classifications
FTE 61-79 - Electronic ignition wiring
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck For Sale
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering

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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:04:43 -0400 (EDT)
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Thankyou!! I think I am going to ram air it, richen the mixture and
disable the EGR since I have no trouble getting anything inspested
thanks again!!

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Yo Gang:

A couple more notes/thoughts about EGR.

In a carbureted vehicle with the EGR spacer under the carb, the exhaust gas is
displacing both fuel and air (i.e., the fuel/air mixture) since the mixture is
created in the carburetor before the exhaust gas is inserted. In that case, the
EGR effectively dilutes the fuel/air mixture, but it does not affect the
fuel/air ratio (i.e., rich/lean), which is set w/in the carb.

In an EFI engine, in which no fuel/air mixture travels through the manifold, the
EGR does displace the O2 in the fresh air in the manifold *before* the fuel is
injected, but the computer that figures the amount of fuel to inject compensates
for the exhaust gas (since it has a sensor that "reads" the EGR valve position),
so the fuel/air mixture (rich/lean) is unaffected in that system as well.

My understanding of the purported benefit of EGR is that, in essence, combustion
temps normally produced by lean mixtures are reduced because the fuel/air
mixture is diluted by a more-or-less inert gas. (Exhaust gas should contain
little or no O2, rendering it inert in the combustion process.) With reduced
combustion temps, a leaner mixture can be run without producing excess NOX
emissions. Of course, the leaner mixture is desired to reduce the emission of
unburned hydrocarbons.

Obviously, increasing the amount of fuel/air mixture that gets into the cylinder
will increase the engine's power output, which is why most engines will give a
little better performance when the EGR is disabled. Since the carburetors and
EFI computers designed to work w/ EGR are calibrated for a leaner mixture than
would otherwise be optimal, the fuel/air mixture should be enriched if the EGR
is disabled. If you do that, the engine will give even more power and be less
prone to the problems created by excessive combustion temps.

Am I right? Does this make sense?

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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:09:57 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Aluminum

> was referring to the $800 a friend of mine had to pay to get a head
> gasket put on her year and a half old Neon. One dealer claimed they'd
> never heard of that, the one she took it to said they do like 15 or 20 a year!


My brother-in-law has done a few also. Chrysler is dragging their feet
to issue a TSB(there may be one now), though it is becoming a wide
spread problem. It took them forever to acknowledge the problems they
had with the Mitsubishi engines in the 80's early '90's, they finally
had Fel-Pro develop a special Printoseal gasket for it as I understand
it.

People are going to get sick of it and all want to drive '61-'79 Ford
trucks, we'd better start hoarding parts. I have my requisite spare
hood, fender, door, starter, heads...
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:45:32 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Point ignition

In a message dated 4/29/99 9:28:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
whdjr cyberhighway.net writes:


increased the voltage to the plugs" but it does it by preventing the
arc, not by adding to the overall field of the primary winding.
>>
Yes, the condenser stops the points from arcing. But, the way it enhances
the ignition is by absorbing the current that would have arced at the points.
This allows the primary windings to drop the magnetic Flux very rapidly.
This collapsing flux is now moving faster because current flow was stopped
almost instantaneously and therefore it will generate a higher voltage in the
secondary winding due to the increased speed of the collapsing magnetic lines
of flux as they cut through the secondary winding. As you know the faster
you spin a generator or alternator the higher the output voltage, until the
regulators take over. -- Condensers are used on many things to help keep them
form becoming RF transmitters (as you pointed out), such as generator,
voltage regulators, and etc. where they have nothing to do with increasing
the voltage. Good Point
Burt Hill Kennewick Wa 1972 F250 4x4 460
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:31:20 -0400
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Back on the list

Hi guys (and gals),
I just got back from a brief trip to southern
California. Wow, I've never seen so many
rust-free ford trucks before, it was great!
I was hanging out near Edwards AFB and
saw dozens of older pickups that had a few
dents or faded paint but were otherwise fine.
Even the old beater trucks from the 60's had
rust-free cab supports and floors (I did get
some funny looks from folks when I got down
to look under their trucks though). Yep, makes
me wish I had a flatbed truck, lots of money,
and lots of time to go and buy a few of those
beauties. Forget California girls, give me
some of those fords from the high desert!
Too bad it's so far from there to here. Sigh!
There's a guy here in Anchorage who has
a '66 side-oiler 427 w/the H.D. toploader, all
complete and never overhauled for 7500.00.
Is this an unreasonable price? Don't know
how many miles are on it but I assume it
would need an overhaul. Yeah, that engine
in my '67 is the stuff of dreams... useless...
but dream fodder nonetheless. SWMBO
would never know it wasn't my trusty 352.
Thanks for any input you all might have.

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (in reassembly mode)
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:57:10 -0400
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - P.S. Pump color

Wish,
While speeding through several FTE digests
I saw that you had enquired about the origional
color of P.S. pumps on FEs. The two I've had
(both were origional) used natural, unpainted
cast pump bodies/mounts and engine-color
cans. These were the old round-body pumps,
one on a 69 390 and the other on a 69 428 PI.
Also, if anyone is interested, the 428 PI was
equiped w/ a Thermactor sys., while the 390
did'nt even have the bosses cast into the heads.
The 428 was in a Texas Highway Patrol car.
I've never seen a Thermactor on any FE other
than on 428s or California vehicles. Were they
used on smaller-displacement FEs in other
states? May it rest in peace. There's nothing
quite like the screaming, chirping, wail of a
dying Thermactor pump with the hoses off.

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (in reassembly mode)
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:52:47 -0700
From: Dennis Dellinger
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny troubles

The fifth gear has a chipped tooth
Dennis Dellinger

CLARE WATERMAN wrote:

> I just got a note from my friend asking about tranny troubles with her
> jeep. i am not too fluent in transmission, so i thought you guys may be
> able to help out a bit. this is the note she sent me:
>
> "When I shift into 5th gear, my Jeep makes a real funny
> noise---like that little clicker thing that kids used to put on their Big
> Wheels, do you remember those things? Anyway, I can drive in any other
> gear and it sounds fine. What do you think the problem is?"
>
> I can go pick up tranny parts in my 71 f250/360/c6/dana 60 (FTE
> content;))
>
> Thanks for any and all advice--
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Clare M. Waterman-Storer, Ph.D.
> Department of Biology
> University of North Carolina
> Chapel Hill, NC, 27599-3280
>
> T: (919)-962-2354
> F: (919)-962-1625
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:52:05 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - EGR

> Not a big fan of EGR and never really messed with it, but I'm having
> trouble convincing myself it will run cooler .... any help ?

It really does lower combustion temps, and make an engine more tolerant
to spark advance. By displacing oxygen, it makes the chamber mixture's
combustability shrink as though it were a smaller, less volitile
charge. Thus, when it burns, it doesn't make as much heat, reduces
emissions of certain gasses, and unfortunatly reduces power to a
degree. To make up for the power loss, the manufacturers build in more
spark advance to bring some, but not all, of it back. And has been
said, if you lose the EGR, you'll have to reduce the timing a bit, as it
will ping. If you have an EGR equipped engine that suddenly starts to
ping, suspect the EGR. They usually are sprung internally to stay
closed, most of the time if they are inoperable it will be closed. If
the diaphram fails, you have a vacuam leak (and usually a surge) under
the condition that your EGR is meant to operate. I can't remember
running across one stuck open, but I'd imagine it's possible.

A technician, or anyone else, can't legally give advice on how to
disable emissions devices. By the same token, there are "testing
procedures" that include isolating or temporarily eliminating the device
for the purpose of testing. They will be specific to the logic of your
application, and need to be fully understood to get the most from the
"test" and avoid damaging other components. Once you understand the
device and it's place in the scheme of things, then isolate it and
temporarily disable (in the case of EGR block it and plug the vacuam) it
to measure it's effect on the drivability problem. If there's no
effect, hook it back up. If there is then there is a choice to be
made. I'm going through this on an '84 Ranger right now. The exhaust
manifold cracked and the only manifold I could come up with is plumbed
differently for both the AIR and EGR. I'm trying to get the right
manifold or the plumbing that will work and make it all operate again.
I am in a "testing " mode right now. By next inspection I need to have
something done.
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From: Ford76 webtv.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EGR

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Thankyou!! I think I am going to ram air it, richen the mixture and
disable the EGR since I have no trouble getting anything inspested
thanks again!!

Julia


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Yo Gang:

A couple more notes/thoughts about EGR.

In a carbureted vehicle with the EGR spacer under the carb, the exhaust gas is
displacing both fuel and air (i.e., the fuel/air mixture) since the mixture is
created in the carburetor before the exhaust gas is inserted. In that case, the
EGR effectively dilutes the fuel/air mixture, but it does not affect the
fuel/air ratio (i.e., rich/lean), which is set w/in the carb.

In an EFI engine, in which no fuel/air mixture travels through the manifold, the
EGR does displace the O2 in the fresh air in the manifold *before* the fuel is
injected, but the computer that figures the amount of fuel to inject compensates
for the exhaust gas (since it has a sensor that "reads" the EGR valve position),
so the fuel/air mixture (rich/lean) is unaffected in that system as well.

My understanding of the purported benefit of EGR is that, in essence, combustion
temps normally produced by lean mixtures are reduced because the fuel/air
mixture is diluted by a more-or-less inert gas. (Exhaust gas should contain
little or no O2, rendering it inert in the combustion process.) With reduced
combustion temps, a leaner mixture can be run without producing excess NOX
emissions. Of course, the leaner mixture is desired to reduce the emission of
unburned hydrocarbons.

Obviously, increasing the amount of fuel/air mixture that gets into the cylinder
will increase the engine's power output, which is why most engines will give a
little better performance when the EGR is disabled. Since the carburetors and
EFI computers designed to work w/ EGR are calibrated for a leaner mixture than
would otherwise be optimal, the fuel/air mixture should be enriched if the EGR
is disabled. If you do that, the engine will give even more power and be less
prone to the problems created by excessive combustion temps.

Am I right? Does this make sense?

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:09:57 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Aluminum

> was referring to the $800 a friend of mine had to pay to get a head
> gasket put on her year and a half old Neon. One dealer claimed they'd
> never heard of that, the one she took it to said they do like 15 or 20 a year!


My brother-in-law has done a few also. Chrysler is dragging their feet
to issue a TSB(there may be one now), though it is becoming a wide
spread problem. It took them forever to acknowledge the problems they
had with the Mitsubishi engines in the 80's early '90's, they finally
had Fel-Pro develop a special Printoseal gasket for it as I understand
it.

People are going to get sick of it and all want to drive '61-'79 Ford
trucks, we'd better start hoarding parts. I have my requisite spare
hood, fender, door, starter, heads...
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:11:38 EDT
From: SMOKEY5209 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - T-18

Hello all. I am looking for a book about rebuilding the T-18 any suggestions.
Thanks in advance
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:58 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach terminal on 360 with electronic ignition

Yes, tach terminal is the same as minus (ground) side of the ign. coil.
Each time the points are closing it will be like ground, and when they open
it will give 12 volts.
This on and off is understood as engine speed by the tachometer. You could
sy it calculates how many 12 v pulses it gets in a defined time, and that's
how fast the engine spin.

Hope this helps.

Bill Brox


>
> REALLY dumb question--I bought a tach for my '74 F100 and can't figure
out
> where to attach it. The instructions said that there SHOULD be a tach
> terminal to attach it to. Any guesses?
> Marty
>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:29:20 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement

Sorry my ignorance. What is a Custom cab, if I understand correct there may
be some other cab too.... and I wonder what is the difference.

Bill

> Roberta with 1965 F-100 custom cab.
>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 09:43:07 -0500
From: "John R. Austin"
Subject: [none]

In the AutoKrafters catalog there is a "Rotunda" compass listed. Anybody
know if this is something that was available from the factory in the 60's?
Thanks,
John

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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 17:08:00 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: anti sieze

On lug nuts I use a mix of tare and kerosene. It gets thin, easy to move
the nuts, and after some days the tare dries, and the lug sits.

Bill Brox

>
> Howdy folks,
>
> Regarding anti sieze - ever since I broke two sockets and a ratchet,
bent a
> breaker bar, and eventually broke the lug stud off on my folks car back
in
> the seventies trying to get a stuck lug nut off, I have always put a
small
> bit of heavy grease (wheel bearing is best) on each stud as I put the
nuts
> back on. I've never had another stuck one. I have also never had one come
> loose. Another practice I have is if anyone (another shop or whatever)
puts
> the lugs on with an impact wrench, I loosen all nuts back home and re
torque
> by hand so I can get the #$% #$ things off out in the middle of nowhere.
>
> Also I have never used anti sieze on sparkplug, just be careful of
> crossthreading, stripping, and over tightening.
>
> Tom
> Reno,NV
> 62 F113 4x4
> 97 FXD
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 17:15:53 +0200
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Good Times

OUCH,,,, oh my oh dear,,,,,,,, his got himself a hoodless,,,

The most important thing on my car will in the future be the hood. It is
under there I am giong to work if I need to repair anything.

Bill



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> From: pickup65 juno.com
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Good Times
> Date: 30. april 1999 13:09
>
> Well I never thought this would happen to me but I am now the owner of a
> Conversion Van!!! Don't get me wrong but had this not fallen into my lap
> I would not actively sought to buy one. No offence to other van owners. I
> must say though the more I think about it the more I like it. I have a
> three week old daughter so I guess I can consider this the family
> vehicle.
>
> I got the van from a friends father. He gave it to me in exchange for
> helping him rebuild the 351C in his 70 Mach 1. We are going to start the
> rebuild this fall but he wanted to get the van out of his hair now so we
> towed it to my house this past Tuesday. Yes towed! Unfortunately the
> engine is blown. Other than that it is in great shape.
>
> It is a "Good Times President" leisure van with lots of features. Such
> as; captains chairs, fold out bed, curtains, rear a/c, clothes closet,
> TV shelf, CB, rear ladder, full carpeting and lots of storage. In the
> drivers compartment there is; power steering, power brakes, tilt
> steering, cruse control, automatic transmission, AM/FM cassette radio and
> the control for the dual tanks.
>
> The van is an 82 model with a 302 which leads me to my question. (I know
> Ken this belongs on the other list) What is the best way to pull the
> engine? The engine is shoe horned in and my engine lift will not go low
> enough to work. Any tips?
>
> Thanks
> Jon E. Purut
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:09:52 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Status of radiator replacement

"bertolin" said:
> Guys, I want to thank each of you who advised me on what repairs I
> should request of the a/c shop that put a hole in my almost new
> radiator...(snip)
> The shop has thus far been fully cooperative with my request. They
> tried calling the U.S. Radiator factory (L.A.,CA) --no answer so
> they ended up calling a Phoenix, AZ branch (other # I gave them)
> and were told the factory had large fire and would not be able to
> supply a replacement radiator for a while. They patched the current
> radiator with a commitment that as soon as the factory is back in
> business, they would replace the radiator.

That's the same excuse I use ...
"We were expecting a proposal yesterday. Where is it?"
"Uh, we had a ... uh, fire."
"A fire? Didn't you have a fire last week?"
"Um, yeah, we had another one."
*click*
:^)

That's quite a story. It's good to hear that everything is going as well as
can be expected otherwise.

- -don

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Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Deluxe Club Wagon
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Blocked off EGR

If you block off your EGR you will have to compensate
for a lean mixture by rejetting your carb. The best
thing to do is to buy an Edelbrock manifold and carb
along with a tuning kit and follow their instructions
to calibrate the mixture. However you will never again
pass any emissions test.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:44:44 -0700
From: "bertolin"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement

A custom cab in the early to mid 60's is a truck with a few more deluxe
features. Custom cab for 1965 and 1966 have chrome strips along the side of
the truck & a "custom cab" emblem on each of the doors. On the interior, the
instrument panel is different. I'm not sure about the other differences. My
truck has a two tone dash, radio and zippered pockets in each of the doors.
I'm not sure if those items were offered standard with the custom cab
version or if they were offered as accessories at an additional cost. I
believe "custom" in later years was a truck with less than average features
but I could be wrong on this. A picture of my truck is in Ken's pictorial on
the website if you would like to see what the exterior looks like. Hope this
helps. Roberta

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Bill Brox
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 7:29 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement
>
>
> Sorry my ignorance. What is a Custom cab, if I understand correct
> there may
> be some other cab too.... and I wonder what is the difference.
>
> Bill
>
> > Roberta with 1965 F-100 custom cab.
> >
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:10:39 -0700
From: Eric
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tool box

Friends;
My '66 Merc has the tool box. The Ford-Mercury trucks brochure states
that it was included in the "Deluxe Camper Package No. 3 for 250 Styleside
Pickup". That option also included padded visors, chrome front bumper and
body side moldings. The "Custom Cab" option was included in package No. 2,
although any of these things might have been available as stand-alone options.
Darrell wondered if a left side box was available. I did too, and thought
I found one in an old box leaning against a neighbour's garage.
On closer inspection I saw that it was homemade, and nicely done. He had
used the same door, but had fabricated the box, as the right side
compartment interferes with something (spring perch?) if moved to the left
side. I've concluded that a left side box wasn't offered.
I'd like a gasket, too.

Eric

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:57:04 -0600
From: "James Draughn"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Good Times - Van

I just rebuilt the engine in my 79 1/2 van with a 351W. It was kinda a pain
to get the engine out and in. You have to remove everything on the front of
the van like the grill, radiator, ac condenser, everything but the bumper,
although it might be a tad easier if you took the bumper off too. As far
as the van being to low for your engine lift, what I would do (if I
understand correctly) is just raise the van higher. I had to raise mine
pretty high with a jack and then keep it up with a couple of pretty good
blocks. Thats what did it for me. BTW a little tip - when you pull the
engine pull the tranny out with it still attached to the engine. Don't
remove the tranny from the engine while the engine is still installed its a
big PAIN. Same vice versa. put the tranny on the engine while its out of
the van then install the whole thing as a unit. Good luck JD

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>
>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:09:25 -0400
>From: pickup65 juno.com
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Good Times
>
>Well I never thought this would happen to me but I am now the owner of a
>Conversion Van!!! Don't get me wrong but had this not fallen into my lap
>I would not actively sought to buy one. No offence to other van owners. I
>must say though the more I think about it the more I like it. I have a
>three week old daughter so I guess I can consider this the family
>vehicle.
>
>I got the van from a friends father. He gave it to me in exchange for
>helping him rebuild the 351C in his 70 Mach 1. We are going to start the
>rebuild this fall but he wanted to get the van out of his hair now so we
>towed it to my house this past Tuesday. Yes towed! Unfortunately the
>engine is blown. Other than that it is in great shape.
>
>It is a "Good Times President" leisure van with lots of features. Such
>as; captains chairs, fold out bed, curtains, rear a/c, clothes closet,
>TV shelf, CB, rear ladder, full carpeting and lots of storage. In the
>drivers compartment there is; power steering, power brakes, tilt
>steering, cruse control, automatic transmission, AM/FM cassette radio and
>the control for the dual tanks.
>
>The van is an 82 model with a 302 which leads me to my question. (I know
>Ken this belongs on the other list) What is the best way to pull the
>engine? The engine is shoe horned in and my engine lift will not go low
>enough to work. Any tips?
>
>Thanks
>Jon E. Purut
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:52:48 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Killer stereo

The amp I had in the Bug (and still have) was a brand called Proton which
has about .2 Farad capacitance built in, and I added a 1 Farad Cap (a big
one) this made the problem worse actually, because after the bass note, it
would take even more power to refill the capacitors. (you could hear the
bug from 1/2 mile away if I was coming toward you in the country) And the
stock bug generator is only 25 amps. Anyway I sold the bug a long time ago
and thus don't have the problem anymore. In fact I now have a 140 amp
alternator from Wrangler Power Products that I need to install on my Ford.
Along with the same amp I've always had. Only have 2 10" subs to go in the
Ford, my tastes in bass have become subdued in my old age. I read down a
little farther, yes, the capacitor is actually bigger than a coke can,
almost like a shampoo botle, cost about 100 bucks. I found that the bigger
alternator did the trick much better, but the cap helped on the bass peaks,
allowed more in a row bofore they all started to get muddy.

George

78 F-150 400, 4 on floor, 4x4
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 17:15:25 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Status of radiator replacement

I know on the '64 the hubcap was different. On the standard cab they were white with red block "FORD" letters. The Custom Cab was more of a brushed stainless with black block letters.

Ted Wnorowski
"ON STRIKE"
Bellevue,OH
bertolin wrote:

> A custom cab in the early to mid 60's is a truck with a few more deluxe
> features.
> I'm not sure about the other differences.


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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:42:53 -0700
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F-150 4WD TRANNY

Try http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/Shifter2/mantrans.html
New Process is now New Venture Gear.
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"
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From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:18 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F-150 4WD TRANNY


> Anybody out there in or around the North Chicago/Great Lakes Naval
> Base know where a guy can get a new or rebuilt NP435 tranny? I've
searched
> the world over and thought I had found one, I saved my pennies and
........
> they went outta buisness (Cherry Hill Automotive in Mundeline - or at
least
> thier phone's been disconnected - not a good sign). I found a used one in
> the bone yard today - went to look at it, been sitt'n, opened, in the dirt
> "since about 95". Guy actually wanted 250 bucks for all that rust. Told
him
> he could keep "want'n".
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 20:25:40 -0700
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - T-18

Smokey, Give me a fax # and I'll send Mon. ~ 8 pages or so......
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"
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From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 7:11 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - T-18


> Hello all. I am looking for a book about rebuilding the T-18 any
suggestions.
> Thanks in advance
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:47:57 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Status of radiator replacement

good thing, any good shop would acknowledge a mistake and fix it for you,
glad to see you found a honest one!

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


At 11:23 AM 5/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>"bertolin" said:
>> Guys, I want to thank each of you who advised me on what repairs I
>> should request of the a/c shop that put a hole in my almost new
>> radiator...(snip)
>> The shop has thus far been fully cooperative with my request. They
>> tried calling the U.S. Radiator factory (L.A.,CA) --no answer so
>> they ended up calling a Phoenix, AZ branch (other # I gave them)
>> and were told the factory had large fire and would not be able to
>> supply a replacement radiator for a while. They patched the current
>> radiator with a commitment that as soon as the factory is back in
>> business, they would replace the radiator.
>
>That's the same excuse I use ...
>"We were expecting a proposal yesterday. Where is it?"
>"Uh, we had a ... uh, fire."
>"A fire? Didn't you have a fire last week?"
>"Um, yeah, we had another one."
>*click*
>:^)
>
>That's quite a story. It's good to hear that everything is going as well as
>can be expected otherwise.
>
>-don
>
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>Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA | 66 Deluxe Club Wagon
>Visit Falconaut: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fedora.net/falconaut | and classic scooters
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Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:41:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - bed classifications

hey guys,
one question????
how come most people refer to bed types as style sides and flare sides
???
call me old fashioned but I myself, refer to
those as fleet side and step sides!!!!
your flare side didnt come out until mid -90's and were one peice
construction...
some have referred to this when they have 61 to 79 trucks and it really
bugs me.... If I recall step sides had removable
fenders . Basically FORD came up with those flashy name to appeal to the
yuppie crowd . But please dont get mad but it just doesnt sound right to
me
SORRY
Eric aka
The FORDMAN
75 F100 4x4

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:36:52 -0400
From: "Brad Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Electronic ignition wiring

My truck has a '69ish 300 with electronic ignition. While doing some body
work the wires going to the Duraspark unit were pulled loose and the are not
marked. The previous owner cut the connector off and just used spade....

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