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61-79-list-digest Thursday, April 29 1999 Volume 03 : Number 144 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - thanks for the heater help Re: FTE 61-79 - Colors and being A.R. FTE 61-79 - 61 tailgate Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion FTE 61-79 - Checking compression FTE 61-79 - Dealer installed A/C FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? FTE 61-79 - --shocks-- Re: FTE 61-79 - Checking compression Re: FTE 61-79 - Interpreting vacuum gauge readings FTE 61-79 - anti-sieze FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness FTE 61-79 - truck bed FTE 61-79 - type camshaft FTE 61-79 - Pwr steering Re: FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness Re: FTE 61-79 - Web pages Re: FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness FTE 61-79 - truck info Re: FTE 61-79 - anti-sieze Re: FTE 61-79 - 61 tailgate FTE 61-79 - Smog Pump FTE 61-79 - Neutral switch FTE 61-79 - 428/390 power FTE 61-79 - Oil coolers Re: FTE 61-79 - Neutral switch FTE 61-79 - No turn signals FTE 61-79 - switch FTE 61-79 - Overbored 390 Re: FTE 61-79 - Overbored 390 FTE 61-79 - Factory or other limited slip for dana 60 rear. FTE 61-79 - 410 not an FE FTE 61-79 - The other 410 FTE 61-79 - Re:Re:Rusty Coolant (FE Leak) FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? FTE 61-79 - Bondo on the valve covers? FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-sieze Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion Re: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request Re: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request FTE 61-79 - bronco swap Re: FTE 61-79 - P/S conversion FTE 61-79 - Better Power Steering FTE 61-79 - HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around Re: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request Re: FTE 61-79 - bronco swap FTE 61-79 - Engine Balance ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:16:07 PDT From: "eldon eversull" Subject: FTE 61-79 - thanks for the heater help Thanks to all of you for the help on my heater. I have a shop manual, but nothing is original under the hood as there is a 302 from and 1970 Torino residing there. There is pressure on the lower hose to the heater core, but the water is not returning to the water pump. I tried to have the core charged with water when I installed it, but most ran out. I like the suggestion of using a garden hose on the installed core to charge it and see water running out of the hose to the water pump. I will try this on Friday and update the list. Eldon 1964 F100 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:14:28 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Colors and being A.R. Well since I know Stu and a few others know what colors things are supposed to be, I thought I'd ask about my 390 I'm puttin together. I've already got the blue too dark for the year, but I'd like it to at least look close to original. I'm wondering what color the power steering pump and all the bracketry is supposed to be. It seems like the ps pump is supposed to be blue adonized (sp?), but I doubt I can find that in a spray can, so anyone know a color that is close ? I was also thinkin of puttin a satin finish black on the pulleys and brackets ... any suggestions ? Also wondering about the carb spacer ... blue ? Natural ? The motor should look pretty good, lets just hope it runs as good! I've got chrome valve covers and oilpan, everything else (not mentioned above) is the darker ford blue, and I've got a stainless bolt kit for everything (though the front cover bolts wont all be right). Also gonna stick with the natural color for the fuel pump I think ... Thanks, wish 73ish F-1?? 4x4 360-->390 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html 96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:39:49 -0400 From: Brian Roczen Subject: FTE 61-79 - 61 tailgate Hi I'm looking for a tailgate for a 61 (or its applicable twin years) ford P/U. Something in fair to excellent shape. The real constraint is that you be either in the up-state New York area OR be within 50 or so miles from I-81 between knoxville, TN and Syracuse NY. The idea is that I'll be traveling I-81 in May, (home for the summer, yeh!!) so I could stop and pick it up. please reply personally to: roczen math.utk.edu thanks a lot! Brian Roczen Dept. of Mathematics University of Tennessee Brewer, Patriot == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:03:13 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote: > > I went through this very shortly before I got my F-350. An easy way to ID a > 60 from a 70 is to clean the crud off the upper portion of the passenger side > of the pumpkin. If you see a 60, you have a 60, if you see a 70, you have a > 70. But I have also seen a 60 with no marks at all, so I cant help ya if > there are no marks. It was probably a dana 61, same as 60, but carrier is offset about 5/8 of an inch. Not much aftermarket support for it. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: draco pacifier.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Checking compression I have an old 390 in the Supercab I am getting ready to sell. When I checked the compression it had been sitting for a several hours. I checked the cylinders in this order 5-6-7-8-1-2-3-4. They all read between 165 and 185 except for #6 which was 125. I checked #6 again. This time it was 160. I assume the crank had turned enough times to slop some oil into the cylinder, upping the compression reading. I heard you are supposed to check compression on a warm engine. If the engine had been recently running I probably would not have gotten the 125 reading. Obviously, something is amiss with #5, but is it as bad as it seems? Should I take 125 as the accurate reading? Should I just do it all over again with the engine warmed up? The motor starts every time and runs fine (after I replaced the condenser). I don't know the history of this motor because it came out of the F-100 I just bought. How should I describe the condition of this motor to a potential buyer? Tired? Worn out? Just rebuilt? :) Mark in Southwest Washington www.pacifier.com/~draco - -- '74 F-100 4X4 '74 F-250 Supercab == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:23:27 -0700 From: John & Iva McKay Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dealer installed A/C I have one of these units if anyone is interested. - -- John L. McKay Mesa, Arizona '67 F-100 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~djspaints/ford.htm Email: djspaints earthlink.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:30:12 EDT From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? Hey Jeff, Just try to resist the tendency to turn that 78 F-250 you get into another pull truck!!! Good luck! CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:30:22 EDT From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - --shocks-- Hey Rob, Just bought a set for this 78 I'm working on from Superlift.....they have them for all different lifts... Give them a try... CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:35:43 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Checking compression >The motor starts every time and runs fine (after I replaced the >condenser). I don't know the history of this motor because it >came out of the F-100 I just bought. How should I describe the >condition of this motor to a potential buyer? Tired? Worn out? >Just rebuilt? :) > Around here they'd say it was rebuilt by the p.o. I'd probably tell them it starts and runs fine, seems to have good power, and if everything checks out on a warm compression test, then I'd tell them that. If they ask, definitely tell them you had trouble with the#5 cylinder, if they don't and they aren't that concerned with the motor, then don't mention it ... 'course I've never sold a car either ... :) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:49:36 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Interpreting vacuum gauge readings Thanks for your message at 07:17 PM 4/27/99 -0400, j arnold. Your message was: >I've been told that the tool box in the passenger side of the bed was on >the Ranger models in the mid to late '70's. I have one on my '66 250. Not a very secure lock...I wouldn't put anything very valuable in there. Dennis L. Pearson http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ctc.edu/~dpearson.index.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ctc.edu/~dpearson/popcult.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/lyrics.htm http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/dlp.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:13:52 -0500 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - anti-sieze >>Clean threads and lots of torque are the hot ticket in my book. Not a flame, just my .02 Bill, Not taken as a flame. I agree with almost all of the above quoted statement. Let's change 'lots of torque' to 'proper torque' and you get my vote. Over torque can stretch a lug bolt and cause premature failure. I guess I don't realize the impact of road salt etc. and am spoiled by the good roads in Texas. I have read warnings in several places specifically against putting any form of lubricant on lug nuts or lug bolts. While it is true that the face is designed to maintain the grip, the fit of the threads is important in slowing the departure of lug nuts should they come loose. Cars used to have left hand threaded bolts on the left side so that the forward turning motion of the wheel when transferred to the bolt or nut would cause them to tighten, not loosen and fall off or out. The same was true for spindle nuts. As a person who has had garage mechanics fail to tighten all lug nuts and wound up with them rattling around in the hub cap, I pay particular attention to them. I have also watched a reputable garage mechanic put a lug nut in an impact wrench and proceed to destroy the nut and stud. No thank you. I may be old and slow, but I can trust my methods. As my previous tirades have well represented, about the only piece of aluminum I will tolerate on an engine is an intake manifold/injection manifold, carb, and a thermostat housing, maybe pistons. Aluminum is good for making beverage containers, not engine components. My not so humble opinion gained from owning aluminum engines. I am sure there are lots of list members who disagree. I can live with that. If we all agreed with each other all the time, I'd leave as soon as I finished throwing up :-). Don't take the tone of this message wrong. I am simply trying to state my reasons clearly so that anyone who is undecided can make an intelligent choice. That's why I'm here. What anyone does with/to their truck is their business, just be prepared for the possible consequences. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:32:56 -0700 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness My 79 4X4 F250's power steering has morning sickness. About 3 weeks ago it started getting hard to steer when I first started it up, but only in certain spots, almost like it was binding but it feels like it's losing power assist. It wouldn't return well through those spots either. It would be fine after it warmed up. It has been getting progressively worse and taking longer and longer to go away. It it were rack & pinion I would say it was the rack since I've seen this on allot of "newer" pass. cars when the piston eats into the cylinder. But this is an integral Ford box. The fluid is full and in good shape and the pump isn't making any abnormal noises. The linkage looks good and I've lubed them all. I crawled underneath and checked for any binding/interference. Some of you must have encountered this before, do I have a bad box or a bad pump? "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:34:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Hurley Subject: FTE 61-79 - truck bed Recently purchased a 69 f100 which is in dire need of a replacement bed. Does anyone know which model years beds will fit on the truck with out major modification? There ya go. Robert Hurley p001393b pb.seflin.org == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:50:22 -0700 From: "Barry Renfro" Subject: FTE 61-79 - type camshaft Want to know best type of cam for a 300 w/3on tree, have a heavy camper thanks 69f100-300,4x2 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:50:07 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pwr steering I've had a week off, so that is why the late response; J S H writes: >>From what I understand, installing 77-79 F-250 4x4 box is the way to go but I have not done this swap on my 76.(yet) Should read '78 - '79. My '77 F250 4X4 has the Ram cylinder. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:53:28 -0400 From: Rob Long Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness Bill, I have a '78 f250 4x4 and my seems to be doing something similar to what you described except mine only does it when I'm menuvering. If you find out the problem I'd appreciate if you let me know also. Thanks! Rob http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4249/78.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:05:05 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Web pages >Let me know what you think. I've found the info very useful. > Looks great, I'll probably link to it if I ever get the tuning the carb and things with vacuum gauges done :) Just gotta get that motor in so I can get some pics.... and practice, just doesn't work as well with SEFI and no dist. ... >Got a toolbox from a bed out at my brother-in-laws'. Someone told me >the camper specials had these. It mounts on the passenger side, lower Sounds like a neat addition to an old truck. I read something on it in my Ford Truck Red Book, but don't remember what now. There was a year or two that the spare tire was stored behind a similar door, I think that was the camper special thing, maybe the box was too, can't remember right now. Also on the web side of things, many of you won't care that I updated my web page about my 'stang, but some will. A few more of you may want to note that there has been progress made and noted on the rebuild page for my truck motor. Still no pictures yet though, haven't used all the film up, but probably by the end of the week. Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:06:54 -0700 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness Yep that's how mine started too. At first I could only really feel it when it was cold and I was doing very low/no speed turning. It was fine when driving after it warmed up. It's just been getting progressively worse especially cold. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" - -----Original Message----- From: Rob Long To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:57 AM Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Morning sickness >Bill, >I have a '78 f250 4x4 and my seems to be doing something similar to what >you described except mine only does it when I'm menuvering. If you find >out the problem I'd appreciate if you let me know also. >Thanks! > >Rob >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4249/78.htm > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:33:40 -0800 From: Alex C Subject: FTE 61-79 - truck info Does anyone have the following info ?: I have a 1979 F-250 Supercab. It says F-250 custom on both sides on the fenders, it also has the word 'custom ' on the glove box door, and it says 'Explorer' on both sides on the rear of the bed. What do CUSTOM and EXPLORER signify? Thank you in advance. Alex == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:29:31 -0700 From: Marko Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - anti-sieze >As my previous tirades have well represented, about the only piece of >aluminum I will tolerate on an engine is an intake manifold/injection >manifold, carb, and a thermostat housing, maybe pistons. Aluminum is good >for making beverage containers, not engine components. My not so humble >opinion gained from owning aluminum engines. I am sure there are lots of >list members who disagree. I can live with that. If we all agreed with each >other all the time, I'd leave as soon as I finished throwing up :-). > Would you leave by, say, hopping in your V*ga and driving away??? marko :^] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:25:34 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 61 tailgate Thanks for your message at 09:39 AM 4/28/99 -0400, Brian Roczen. Your message was: >I'm looking for a tailgate for a 61 (or its applicable twin years) ford P/U. >Something in fair to excellent shape. The real constraint is that you be >either in the up-state New York area OR be within 50 or so miles from I-81 >between knoxville, TN and Syracuse NY. The idea is that I'll be traveling I-81 >in May, (home for the summer, yeh!!) so I could stop and pick it up. This wouldn't happen to be a Unibody, would it? If so, Happy Dreams! Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:46:49 -0700 From: "J.S.H." Subject: FTE 61-79 - Smog Pump "My big concern would be the heads... Do they have the air injection tubes on them to hook the smog pump up to? If not do they at least have the air injection boss on the exhaust ports so you could drill them yourself and install the air tubes? If not then you'll need a different set of heads to be able to hook the smog pump up. )-:" I'm real familiar with a guy who had a similar problem.Truck failed visual portion of smog test due to no smog pump.Installed the brackets, pump etc.and ran a hose from pump along top of intake but instaed of hooking hose to engine he ran it down back of engine and pointed it toward back of truck.Truck passed visual and sniffer and is on the road. I certanly wouldn't recommend this proceedure I'm just passing along information. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:00:23 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Neutral switch Wish writes: >>Which reminds me I need to get my neutral starter safety switch fixed one of these days ... someone said that the piece in the steering column just pops out ... looks more to me like they are soldered in ... oh well, I'll come up with something ... Don't remember your trucks year of make, but on the '76 thru'79, that little switch is held in by two very well hidden short sheatmetal type screws. Once you get them out(need a philips stubby), you'll wonder how you could have missed them. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:03:35 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 428/390 power Wish writes: >>unless you're going for the "I have a 428" awe inspiring phrase, then I would bet a well built 390 would do you just as well Not if they are equally built. No substitute for Cu in. Azie Ardmore, Al == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:30:33 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil coolers Cannondale writes: >>I was out looking through some of my junk today and noticed I had a couple of old a/c condensers off a '74 F100 and a VW Rabbit, basically the same size and all. anyways, i know that they are both still good and was wondering if possibly these could be used as BIG tranny or oil coolers. 1st off it ain't J U N K!!! It's unsightly T R E A S U R E. They work great, BUT once they are left open to the atmosphere for a long period of time they tend to get pinholes in them(corrode from inside). Be sure to flush them out really good and pressure test them for leaks. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:33:05 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Neutral switch >Wish writes: >>Which reminds me I need to get my neutral starter safety switch >fixed one of these days ... someone said that the piece in the steering column >just pops out ... looks more to me like they are soldered in ... oh well, I'll >come up with something ... > >Don't remember your trucks year of make, but on the '76 thru'79, that little >switch is held in by two very well hidden short sheatmetal type screws. Once >you >get them out(need a philips stubby), you'll wonder how you could have missed >them. > The switch itself is held in this way, but I'm talking about the little pin that moves the switch around ... is this also what you're talking about ? My steering should be from a 74, and it was a 74 in the junk yard that I was tryin from ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:34:55 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - No turn signals Terry Pendegrass writes: >>Does anybody know why when I turn on my turn signal and then step on the brake the turn signal quits signalling turns? ;) It works fine as long as I keep my foot off of the brake, it's just pretty hard to master that. Either a bad ground on that side or shorted elements within the bulb(front or rear) on that side. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:02:21 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - switch John Klaers writes: >>There is a switch of some kind fastened to the top of my steering column on its base near where it enters the fire wall (inside the cab). I don't know what it is but I think I've tracked it down to be the source of my electrical problems. It has a sliding switch that goes from left to right. Anyone know what it is? Backup lights and Park/Neutral switch. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:08:26 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Overbored 390 Jeff Grant writes: .>>i have seen several 390 blocks bored .080 over, and have never seen one have a heating problem, and that down here in the dry hot south. I bored 2 into the water jacket before I got one to overbore enough to accept the 428 pistons.(.080") I will admit though.... No overheating problem on either of them. They went to the scrapyard. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:12:40 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Overbored 390 >I bored 2 into the water jacket before I got one to overbore enough to accept >the 428 pistons.(.080") I will admit though.... Were these the 105 blocks or the 352 blocks ? Hey Azie, you just gettin caught up on everything ? :) don't go too fast, you'll be seein computer screens in your sleep and end up with fried eyeballs... havin to take another week off, then gettin caught up again ... its a vicious cycle that took years to perfect... That old Ford's sure fast on the draw Outrun the Chevies and outrun the law ... ---Days of Thunder sung by Brooks&Dunn wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:06:25 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: FTE 61-79 - Factory or other limited slip for dana 60 rear. Hi all I'm considering a dana 60 limited slip in the rear. Is the factory limited slip rebuildable? Anyone know the price on a factory limited slip. What other limited slips should I be looking at. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:33 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 410 not an FE Marco writes : >>Yeah, maybe, but my 360 looks, well, like a 360. Really. It doesn't look anything like my 410. (Not the 410 Mercury of early 60's which is not an FE motor, by the way, but the later FE 410 Mercury). Ok Marco!!!! !!! You got me confused now. ( I know that ain't too difficult B U T). The 410 was only used in late '66 and all of '67 and only in Mercurys, according to all my sources. Where do you get this early '60's 410 stuff??? Did they make the 410 in something other than the FE??? I know there was a 361(?) of the Y block design and then there was the 383 and 430 of ? design(the combustion chamber was in the block - not in the heads)..(these make good boat anchors) But I know of no other block other than the FE until the 385 series (429/460/and 371 in trucks). Educate me please!!!! All FE's look alike to me. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:16:32 -0700 From: Eric Subject: FTE 61-79 - The other 410 The MEL 410 was a new engine for Ford for '58, and is closely related to the 383,430 and 462 (and maybe the earlier Lincoln OHV V8s). To the best of my knowledge, the MEL 410 was available only in the '58 Edsel Citation. ( When that car came out I thought it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen! Maybe I was too young yet to have developed any taste.....) Eric == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Twichel Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Re:Rusty Coolant (FE Leak) Thanks Pat Brown, Dennis Dellinger, William Hart and J.S.H. for your replies. Sorry it took so long to write back, I just got busy. It sounds as if I've got nothing to worry about. I just did not know if it was normal or not. (Coolant color for new engine and cooling system.) Dennis told me that when an engine shop hot tanks an engine it doesn't remove the rust. (This makes sense.) Pat reminded everyone to make sure the PH is correct by using distilled water. (I already had done that but it's still good advice.) William suggested that the dis-coloration might be due to the sand used in the casting of the water jackets. (I don't know if there would be any left considering the age of the engine, but then again, it was overhauled so that may have "stired things up." J.S.H. told me how his engine shop used a syringe of silicone to fix the intake to head seal. ( I think I can live with the leak for a little while but thanks for the info.) Again thanks everyone. Josh _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:19:03 EDT From: REvans8341 aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request Does anyone on the list know of any vendor(s) in the country who sell specialized parts, such as tail and signal light lenses, door weatherstrip, etc. for Ford trucks in our age range here. I have a 72 F-100 in need of lenses and door weatherstrip, among other things, and am trying to avoid going to my friendly, helpful, price gouging Ford dealer to order the parts. Any info would be greatly appreciated..........Bob == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:44:02 +0200 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? I think I will be in tears the day I have sold my 1988 Aerostar and prolly get the money to buy an old pickup truck with gas engine,,, NO FUEL INJECTION..... I hope for ever. I really look forward to the day..... In other words, diesel has it's benfits, but those older gas engines is so much easier to fix. So, James and I seems to be agree here.... Bill > > I ran a fuel injection shop for 9 1/2 years. We specialized in the systems > on diesel engines, but also did full engine work. You have to tune up a gas > engine several times in its life, but one single diesel injection system > tune-up can cost a whole lot more than all the gas tune-ups combined. Also > compare the costs of rebuilding the engines, even though I have seen 6.9/7.3 > diesels with over 350,000 miles on them, it still costs 3 times as much to > overhaul them. The last time I saw a 6.9/7.3 in a wrecking yard they wanted > $3000 for it. > I can still remember 90% of what I ever knew about diesels, but I recently > bought a 78 F350 crewcab with a 460 because I can easily fix anything that > goes wrong with it when I am out in the boonies. No computers, no governors, > no injectors, no glowplugs, no O2 sensors. What a joy it is to work on. > Just my opinion. > James > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:58:57 -0400 From: Brent Cole Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bondo on the valve covers? I have made a decision to reuse my stock "Powered by Ford" valve covers on my 460. (I couldn't find the aftermarket ones I wanted) But I have one question. Can I use Bondo to fill any of the small dents in the valve covers? I have beat them out the best I can. Has anyone tried this? Will it take the heat of the engine compartment? How about the Bondo with fiber glass? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Brent == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:45:19 -0700 From: Vogt Family Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-sieze On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, John LaGrone wrote: > > >> Amen, I believe there should be a small amount included with every set > >>of spark plugs that are sold!!!!! > > Ted, Marko, and anyone else interested in anti-sieze: > > No offense intended here, but a lot of people don't realize that there are > torque specs for spark plugs. Under torque and they will fall out. Over > torque and you widen the gap changing your ignition timing and spark > characteristics in the process. All plugs should be started by hand and > then screwed in with your fingers until they touch the seat. If you cannot > turn them by hand, the threads should be chased with the proper tap. I > guarantee that if you follow this procedure you can always get them out and > you will never cross thread one. You will also eliminate an often > overlooked tuneup problem. Two places where anti-sieze shouldn't be used > are spark plugs and lug nuts. I disagree strongly here, those are the two places where I am most likely to use it. If it is anti-sieze you are using, then it should not affect the torque readings. Oil and grease will, however. I can't seem to keep lug nuts from binding and snapping no matter how well I clean them and the studs. For me, anti-sieze there is the only way I have to keep them from *falling off*. If they are torqued in a binding situation, the torque does not represent the clamping force applied, and as soon as the bind is relieved, the nut may come loose. The bottom line is, I use anti-sieze on anything I may want to remove later. Birken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:32:39 EDT From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion In a message dated 4/28/99 7:07:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, luxjo thecore.com writes: > there are no marks. It was probably a dana 61, same as 60, but carrier is offset about 5/8 of an inch. Not much aftermarket support for it. >> now this is interesting, any way I could find out for sure? This is on the rear of my dads 75 F-250 4x4. It was built piece by piece so were not sure of everything on it. For the longest time he argued it was a 44 till I showed him the size difference in the covers. All he cared about was the 4.11 gears and posi unit. If you can help, lemme know. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:27:07 -0500 From: "Ted Stringfellow" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request How about J.C. Whitney or Obsolete Ford? I've seen door weatherstrip kits for older trucks in the JC Whitney catalog and other special old parts in my Obsolete Ford catalog. - -----Original Message----- From: REvans8341 aol.com To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 4:24 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request > > Does anyone on the list know of any vendor(s) in the country who sell >specialized parts, such as tail and signal light lenses, door weatherstrip, >etc. for Ford trucks in our age range here. I have a 72 F-100 in need of >lenses and door weatherstrip, among other things, and am trying to avoid >going to my friendly, helpful, price gouging Ford dealer to order the parts. >Any info would be greatly appreciated..........Bob >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:30:37 -0500 From: "charlest" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Parts Vendor Request > Does anyone on the list know of any vendor(s) in the country who sell >specialized parts, such as tail and signal light lenses, door weatherstrip, >etc. for Ford trucks in our age range here. I have a 72 F-100 in need of >lenses and door weatherstrip, among other things, and am trying to avoid >going to my friendly, helpful, price gouging Ford dealer to order the parts. >Any info would be greatly appreciated..........Bob Try www.73-79 fordtrucks.  com and www.partsvoice.com (if you know the part number) and www.ford-obsolete-parts.com and www.jcwhitneyusa.com Im sure there are others too, but these come to mind. Charles 79 F150 4x4(460 swap) soon to have 1 ton running gear == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:47:36 PDT From: "barry mitchell" Subject: FTE 61-79 - bronco swap Has anyone attempted to put a 390 in a 1975 body style bronco Barry Mitchell _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:42:04 -0700 From: sparky mail.island.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - P/S conversion >> I am in the final stages of writing down the "instructions" and required >>parts list. It is fairly long so maybe it would be better to email me >>privately for a copy. I dont want to make the list too long and probably >>not everyone cares about this conversion. >> If the "List Mom" doesnt mind I will post it. It is going to be about 4 >>pages in Word Perfect. >> >>Sparky > >Sparky, if you want to send me a copy of this (wish iastate.edu), I can >convert it to HTML and put it up on the web if you like. Then everyone on >the list can pull it up at their leisure .... > >Sound good to everybody ? > > >Just my 2cents > >wish Thanks alot for the offer, but I have already sent a copy to Ken for posting to the Technical Articles. He must have low standards for accepting articles as apparently he is going to post mine. :) :) :) LOL The offer still stands for an email copy to anyone that cant wait for it to be posted. The only thing I ask you to remember is that I am by no means a PS conversion expert for all Ford trucks. The only truck I have done is mine. Sparky 73 F250 4x4 390FE 4v "New and Improved with Power Steering" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:45:23 -0500 From: George Ramsower` Subject: FTE 61-79 - Better Power Steering I have a '78 F-150 400/C6 A/C PWR and all that nice stuff, >>2WD The steering box is worn out, and I have been wondering if there is a later model box that has variable ratio and can fit, with few mods, into my truck. If so, what would be involved in making this upgrade? Any help will be appreciated. George Ramsower San Antonio(Little Mexico), TX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:01:21 EDT From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? Howdy again y'all! Well, my question this time is: How much is too much? I just got 2 specialty horns for my truck that I am installing tomorrow a wolf whistle and the other has a bunch of different animal sounds, melodies etc.> and I am really wanting to get a small blacklight inside the cab, a CB radio, offroad lights on my sportbar etc. ain't made of money LOL> all of which use power and I am wondering how this all will affect my battery, alternator or overall power load etc. Will too many accessories overload my system? How can I prevent this? Not go accessory crazy? LOL Thanks y'all..any help would be appreciated! *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys....trucks are for GIRLS!~*~* == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:09:35 EDT From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around In a message dated 4/27/99 5:46:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdelanty sonic.net writes: On the FE's, the thermactor tubes went into bosses on the exhaust ports of *the heads*, not into the exhaust manifold. )-: >> Steve is correct, the bosses are cast as part of the heads. I have the factory manual on a 1967 ThunderBird. They offered 2 engines that year the 390 and 428. One of the factory modifications to these engines (was this for California?) was the thermactor. From reading the book it implies that other Ford car models came with it also. It did not say why they offered it..... 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