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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, April 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 143 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - police interceptor FTE 61-79 --shocks-- FTE 61-79 - Wiring Diagram for 1970 F100 FTE 61-79 - Anti-Sieze FTE 61-79 - Re: FORD COWGIRL HERE FTE 61-79 - speaking of rare 4x4 f250 FTE 61-79 - my heater doesn't FTE 61-79 - FOMOCO Re: FTE 61-79 - P/S conversion FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- FTE 61-79 - Free 360 Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FORD COWGIRL HERE Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 FTE 61-79 - Fred's heater doesn't work FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Code Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FORD COWGIRL HERE Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 FTE 61-79 - anti-seize [none] Re: FTE 61-79 - was serious question...just nonsense now Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow valve springs? FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 FTE 61-79 - Clutch chatter FTE 61-79 - Carbs, tune-ups, vac Re: FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 FTE 61-79 - Dealer installed A/C Re: FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- FTE 61-79 - Interpreting vacuum gauge readings Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow valve springs? Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- Re: FTE 61-79 - Interpreting vacuum gauge readings FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams Re: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams Re: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow valve springs? Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 Re: FTE 61-79 - anti-sieze Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around Re: FTE 61-79 - This guy wants off--Ha! Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? FTE 61-79 - vibration Re: FTE 61-79 - Anti-Sieze Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:27:25 -0500 From: "James Elliott" Subject: FTE 61-79 - police interceptor Well,I have been very busy, so have a lot of digest reading to catch up on. Thought I would let everyone know this tho - the engine guy that I use, and that Stu permitted to NOT use yellow valve springs is doing some work for a fellow that acquired, and then decided not to use, a 429 police interceptor. Price unknown, it has not been rebuilt, if someone is interested, email me and I will give the machinists phone number. It is in middle TN. Jim E. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:35:21 -0400 From: Rob Long Subject: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- Hey guys! Has anyone ever heard of having a problem with trying to get a set of shocks for a 78 F250 with a 4" lift (blocks). I've tryed calling several different stores and they all seem to just scratch their heads and tell to go measure the shock. Well...I'm at college and my truck is back home. This isn't rocket science! I'm surely not the first person in the world to ever need a set of shocks for that type of setup. If anyone has any suggestions.... please let me know. Rob http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4249/78.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:48:57 EDT From: SMOKEY5209 aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wiring Diagram for 1970 F100 Anyone interested, Autocrafters has the wiring diagram available for the 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 70, and 72 pickups. They can be contacted at 1-800-228-7346. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:57:48 -0500 From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger) Subject: FTE 61-79 - Anti-Sieze > you will never cross thread one. You will also eliminate an often > overlooked tuneup problem. Two places where anti-sieze shouldn't be used > are spark plugs and lug nuts. I must respectfully disagree with your final statement, though anti-sieze isn't necessary in every case it doesn't hurt. Aluminum heads must have it, without fail. And you have to get them torqued to specs, or they wont ground right. Anti-sieze isn't as necessary on cast iron, if you get the plugs tight and the threads and seats are clean and paint free, they'll ground fine and wont collect moisture. Failure of the plug to seal and ground prpoerly is what usually makes them hard to get out. Anti-sieze is a great lubricant and moisture resistor and will make the plugs seal better, as long as they are tight enough. I use it on lug bolts too. It works especially well in the winter when they are exposed to a lot of salt, or if I'm going to be in the mud. It will save your lug bolts from an early demise. You just have to get them tight enough. The relationship of the face on the nut and seat of the wheel is what will keep them from loosening up. Thread resistance (even rusty ones) wont keep your wheel on. Clean threads and lots of torque are the hot ticket in my book. Not a flame, just my .02 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:06:53 PDT From: "MARTY COLMAN" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FORD COWGIRL HERE I might be interested in a "Ford,PRCA" sticker, my brothers would problably like one too. How big is it, what does it look like, and about how much does it cost. A local tack shop can order PRCA mudflaps - about $50 a pair. Haven't gotten a pair yet, but plan to. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:24:05 -0500 From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger) Subject: FTE 61-79 - speaking of rare 4x4 f250 > My understanding of this situation is that there were F250 Unibodies, but > only in 2WD. I also think there were no 4x4 Unibodies. The Ford Red Book > says that the Unibody was available on F100 and F250, but was not available > on the F350. Unfortunately, they don't say whether or not 4x4 was a factor. The main reason for the mis-matched bed on the '61-'66 F250 4X4's was because the unibody wasn't flexible enough. I doubt there were any built on the unibody chassis, but maybe they built a few before they got the bad news. I've never seen or heard of one. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:40:05 -0500 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - my heater doesn't >I suffered through the winter, but am now tackling the >problem of a non-functioning heater. I took it out and poured water (snip) > >And, no it is not the diverter valve, as there is none, just hoses >direct to the core. Help, what am I overlooking? > >Eldon, 1964 F100 > I hope you will not be offended by me asking this very simple question, but on my '64 there was a valve in the fitting on the intake that was sort of a manual heater valve. You shut it off in the summer so your heater core would not be radiating heat. This was the factory setup, my dad's '64 had the same thing on it when it was new. Does yours have this and, if so, are you sure it is open? They tend to freeze up due to rust. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com \( Texas Fight! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:52:40 -0400 From: "Mike & Carrie Elmer" Subject: FTE 61-79 - FOMOCO Hi all,not really a question but a little current events news.In business section of this AM's Orlando Fla. paper,an artical w/the heading" Used parts to another spin"the jist of it FOMOCO is buying up salvage yards to sell parts and recycle whats left to repair shops and consumers.It's est.to be a 1billion per year buss,their recent purchase a salvage yard in Tampa Fla.pretty soon we'll be buying new and used pasts from the big guy.Just thought you'd all like to know.Hope to meet some of you at PF. Later Mike Elmer == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:53:37 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - P/S conversion > I am in the final stages of writing down the "instructions" and required >parts list. It is fairly long so maybe it would be better to email me >privately for a copy. I dont want to make the list too long and probably >not everyone cares about this conversion. > If the "List Mom" doesnt mind I will post it. It is going to be about 4 >pages in Word Perfect. > >Sparky Sparky, if you want to send me a copy of this (wish iastate.edu), I can convert it to HTML and put it up on the web if you like. Then everyone on the list can pull it up at their leisure .... Sound good to everybody ? Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:44:41 -0400 From: David Henderson Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion For the list: I had to change the rear diff fluid in my '79 F250 this weekend and while I was at it, I cleaned off the tag and lo and behold the confusion started. On the tag is written 3 54 D7 which at first glance tells me that this rear-end is a 3.54:1 GR, but it drives like a 4.10:1 (really high RPMs at highway speeds with a top speed of about 80 MPH-gas pedal all the way own). I came into work and went to the VIN decoder listed (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/~mrm/bronco/vinform.html) and it tells me what I had suspected before, that I have a 4.10:1 GR. It did say one thing I had not suspected, that the rear-end is actually at Dana 70 instead of a Dana 60. Do I have a replacement/salvaged rear diff cover? Do I indeed have a Dana 70 rear-end (would be nice)? Does anybody know what was supposed to come in a 1979 F250 4x4 with 300 I6 Custom? Does anybody care? I can say that the rear-end in this truck is a whole heck of a lot larger than the rear-end in a previous truck I owned, a 1985 F250 heavy duty 4x2 with a 460cid, larger both inside and out. Also larger than the first and last Chevy I'll ever own, a 1983 K20 4x4 (also a previous truck). Any information would be greatly appreciated!!! Dave H - -- _ _| ~~. David Henderson \, _} DHenders VT.Edu \( Gig 'em Aggies! '93 Currently at: Interdepartmental Genetics Program 2010 Litton Reaves Hall Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)231-4773 (540)231-5014 DHenders VT.Edu http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dasc.vt.edu/henderson/dhenderson.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:54 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- >Hey guys! Has anyone ever heard of having a problem with trying to get a >set of shocks for a 78 F250 with a 4" lift (blocks). I've tryed calling >several different stores and they all seem to just scratch their heads and >tell to go measure the shock. Well...I'm at college and my truck is back >home. This isn't rocket science! I'm surely not the first person in the >world to ever need a set of shocks for that type of setup. >If anyone has any suggestions.... please let me know. > You might check with the offroad list as well as they may have some experience. The other thing you could possibly do would be to go to a parts store, get the specs for the STOCK shocks, then add the appropriate lift values where they need to be ... if you've lengthened the travel, then add some in there, or possibly just overall length.... you just want to be sure your shocks are sitting pretty much centered in their travel so you don't over extend them or compress them too far... >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4249/78.htm Loved the pics of the truck :) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:03:21 -0500 From: Don Yerhot Subject: FTE 61-79 - Free 360 SWMBO says I've got to clear out the garage so she can actually park her car in it!! I've only got 4 engines in there, geez, but don't really want to have to sleep in the doghouse either. So here's the deal, one ill 360 (I think it is anyway, has 352 casting mark on the front left of the block and has 1968 #'s on the intake) It was in my 74F100 when I got it, had water in the oil, a compression check showed one totally dead cylinder. I'm keeping the carb, bellhousing/flywheel. But if anyone on the List want's this thing, it's your's free of charge, just come and pick it up. I live in the Minneapolis, MN area. Please contact me off the list through e-mail. DonY 65F250-351W-NP435 74F100-351W-3 Speed == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:06:36 EDT From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FORD COWGIRL HERE *Perk* Did I hear PRCA mudflaps?? How cool! I WANT SOME! *Pout* Could ya maybe E-mail me the address of the tack shop so they can order them for me? Thanks! =) *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys....trucks are for GIRLS!~*~* == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:10:17 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 At 08:51 PM 4/26/99 , you wrote: >William >The inspection station told me, the referee station told me, then I called Ford >gave them the VIN number and they said yes it came with an air pump. >Dennis Dellinger > Bummer ... maybe someone on the list knows something about this ... I think some of the 428's and such from the late 60's early 70's might have had them, so they may be available for the FE if you dig enough, finding the bracketry could be a problem though ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:11:01 EDT From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fred's heater doesn't work Hi Eldon, Since it sounds like you have pressure in the heater hoses, I'm with whoever said the return location might be plugged. I too have seen these little manifold fittings about rusted shut. Check where the outlet hose connects to the manifold or where ever it ends up....and then the thermostat..... I'm sure curious to see how this one turns out, so please keep us informed! CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:11:27 EDT From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 Hey Bill, Figured you would get a kick out of this. The 67 F-100 I just picked up was a California truck, equipped complete with air pump and Thermactor setup.....I'm sure Stock Man would love to get his hands on this stuff..... CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:13:56 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny Code >I assume that this code means it is a C6 but just >wanted to check. On my 77 Flairside the tranny has >Stamped on the right side of it. The tranny code on the >side of the door is K. Could be, dunno, don't have my book, can look it up tonight though ... Also I can not find any markings >on the rear end. My axle code on the side of the door >is 46J with a GVWR 04900. When I turn the rear wheel >the other wheel goes in the opposite direction. Open, no trac-lok or anything... Also >the play that I have seems to be in the diff, is there >anyway I can fix this? Have to pull the rear apart and see what's worn, if its ring and pinion, and you have some time/patience, you could probably do this yourself, at least that's what they tell me, haven't actually done it myself yet though .... Realize I'm down here in GTMO >without a machine shop let alone any shadetree's that >know much more then me. You shouldn't need a machine shop, unless something's really busted. As far as doing it yourself, most of the time I find that some instructions mixed in with a bit of patience will let me muddle my way through about anything, and if it gets too deep, I can usually put it down for a bit and come back to it with no problems ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:05:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Dixon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FORD COWGIRL HERE The "Ford PRCA" sticker I have is about 5"x6 1/2" , and for you whom it concerns I am still trying to remember the name of the town where I got it. TEXAS - ---MARTY COLMAN wrote: > > I might be interested in a "Ford,PRCA" sticker, my brothers would > problably like one too. How big is it, what does it look like, and > about how much does it cost. A local tack shop can order PRCA > mudflaps - about $50 a pair. Haven't gotten a pair yet, but plan to. > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:24:15 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 >Figured you would get a kick out of this. The 67 F-100 I just picked up was a >California truck, equipped complete with air pump and Thermactor >setup.....I'm sure Stock Man would love to get his hands on this stuff..... > Wow, that's cool ... now I've heard it all .... naw, probably not, but that's a new one. I'd have never expected a truck that old to need/have that emissions stuff on it ... bet its pretty hard to find some of that stuff ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:34:14 -0500 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - anti-seize >> I've ever talked to has used anti-seize when replacing spark plugs in aluminum heads. I'll concede this point. I was speaking of Dearborm iron. Anytime you have two unlike metals joined, there will be unique problems. I'm with wish on leaving them in for 100K without checking them. I would (and do as I run platinum plugs) check them at least once a year. The condition of the spark plugs is a direct indicator of your overall engine condition. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:08:11 -0500 From: "John R. Austin" Subject: [none] Just put a new starter on '67 F100 with 300. The starter doesn't disengage cleanly, kind of rattles around for a few seconds after the motor starts. What do you think? Could a put a couple of washers in to back it off a little? Thanks, john Our Savior Lutheran Church 1101 Old Cleburne Road Granbury, TX 76048 (817) 573-5011 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.itexas.net/~oslc/ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:38:49 EDT From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - was serious question...just nonsense now In a message dated 4/27/99 10:22:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com writes: > Figured you would get a kick out of this. The 67 F-100 I just picked up was a > > California truck, equipped complete with air pump and Thermactor > setup.....I'm sure Stock Man would love to get his hands on this stuff..... > I presently don't have any plans for a move to the left coast although I have family there. In my younger days....it was determined that many thermactor set-ups affixed themselves to the exhaust manifold with a standard NPT fitting. I won't go into any details. Stock Man (a/k/a Thom B.) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:51:16 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around >> Figured you would get a kick out of this. The 67 F-100 I just picked up was >> California truck, equipped complete with air pump and Thermactor >> setup.....I'm sure Stock Man would love to get his hands on this stuff..... >> >I presently don't have any plans for a move to the left coast although I have >family there. In my younger days....it was determined that many thermactor >set-ups affixed themselves to the exhaust manifold with a standard NPT >fitting. I won't go into any details. > So does anyone around have one of these manifolds and pumps to help this guy out ? I imagine a pump can be purchased new, but that doesn't help with the bracketry at all ... anyone have any brackets they can spare for this ? Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:43:33 -0700 From: "Danger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow valve springs? earlier, James wrote...... > the engine guy that I use, > and that Stu permitted to NOT use yellow valve springs is doing some work > for a fellow that acquired, and then decided not to use, a 429 police > interceptor..... My question is this:) What is wrong with the yellow valve springs? Danger danger csolutions.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/danger == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:03:38 -0500 From: "Eric Washburn" Subject: FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 I just got this 400M and a C6. I would like to know how to identify what year this stuff came out of. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:48:48 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clutch chatter Gene Gardner writes: >> Also had some end-play in the pivot arm for the clutch adjusting rod (the part that moves the rod back and forth when you push the pedal). Those 2 corrections seemed to have eliminated about 85% of the clutch chatter problem I wrote about last year (see archives). The rest of the chatter -- mostly in reverse -- I'm going to attribute to the design of the clutch, the infamous 3-finger Chatterbox that Marko so aptly named. Get a diaphram-type clutch, my friends! Thanks for the update, Gene. Have a good safe trip this summer. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:12:21 -0400 From: "PmctBaker" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carbs, tune-ups, vac Hey all, I added a carb tune-up page, It's just about the way I want it except for a couple of things. Take a look, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www3.your-net.com/~pmbaker Any feedback is most welcome. Thanks mike baker pmbaker your-net.com 1978 F-250 Custom 1978 Bronco == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:25:09 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 At 02:03 PM 4/27/99 , you wrote: >I just got this 400M and a C6. I would like to know how to identify what >year this stuff came out of. > Just start lookin for part numbers on things, if you find that they are all about the same range, then you'll have a good idea ... intake, heads and block are good places to start, if they're all way different, then you'll know they've been changed, if you're sure they're stock just check one or two. Should all probably be D's for the 70's, then 7,8, or 9, depending on the year that it was produced. DaveR might have better resources and know what all changed and part numbers changed through the years. Also check the motor for a metal tag, if its still around you'll know right away. Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:33:11 -0400 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dealer installed A/C Someone writes and several commented on : >>It does though have a little ford symbol n it??? I've been on vacation for a week, so thats why I'm a little late with response. These were self contained units that truly bolted underneath the dash in the '63 thru '66 range of Fords. FOMOCO was a little later than the competition, and the dealers were screaming, so Ford offered a dealer installed optional A/C unit. It was very effecient, but got in the way of the "middle" passengers knees. I ordered a 1966 Mustang 2+2 GT 4 speed and had this option installed. It used the same compressor as was later installed from the factory. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:43:56 -0600 From: "Dave Resch" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 >"Eric Washburn" >Subject: FTE 61-79 - My new 400M and C6 > >I just got this 400M and a C6. I would like >to know how to identify what year this stuff >came out of. Yo Eric: The block casting number and its casting date can help you identify the model year when your engine was first built and installed in a vehicle, but it won't help you identify the actual source vehicle. The block casting number is located on the right side, below the deck of the last two cylinders (3 & 4), just above where the starter would be. If the block casting number is D7TE, it is a truck (or Bronco) block cast beginning in the 1977 model year and until production ended in 1982. The casting date of the block is located on the upper surface at the rear of the block, right next to the oil pressure sending unit. The codes used in the casting date are one or two digits for the year (e.g., 8 or 78), a letter for the month (A=January), and two digits for the day. The casting date should help you isolate the exact model year, regardless of the casting number. Sorry I can't help you w/ the C6 tranny identification. Dave R (M-block devotee) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:18:00 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- Rob Long wrote: > > Hey guys! Has anyone ever heard of having a problem with trying to get a > set of shocks for a 78 F250 with a 4" lift (blocks). I've tryed calling > several different stores and they all seem to just scratch their heads and > tell to go measure the shock. Well...I'm at college and my truck is back > home. This isn't rocket science! I'm surely not the first person in the > world to ever need a set of shocks for that type of setup. > If anyone has any suggestions.... please let me know. > I have a 79 F-250 that supposedly has a 4" lift. How was your's lifted? This one was done with what seems to be front leaf perch drops only. I can measure the shovck length if you want. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:59:44 -0700 From: John & Iva McKay Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interpreting vacuum gauge readings My small contribution to this thread is at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~djspaints/ford.htm Let me know what you think. I've found the info very useful. Got a toolbox from a bed out at my brother-in-laws'. Someone told me the camper specials had these. It mounts on the passenger side, lower front of the bed. Any one know where these originated ? Just curious. Getting ready to install it in the '67. I've cut the hole so I'm committed at this point. Or as the wife says "should be committed". Hopefully I'll have pictures to post on my web site soon. - -- John L. McKay Mesa, Arizona '67 F-100 Custom Cab http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~djspaints/ford.htm Email: djspaints earthlink.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:04:48 -0700 From: MC Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- Hey Rob, I just put a 4" suspension lift on my '70 F100. I know that the springs are different, but the shocks should be the same. I had 2 different types for mine. The rear had a stud on the top and the front had an eyelet on top. I don't remember which one it was, but one of those types were compatible with a buddy's '77 F150, so I'm guessing a 78 F250 should have the same type. Mine are Trail Master. If you would like the part #'s let me know. - -- Matt Cozad When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane. [||||||]=[|00|]=(|____________________) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:17:52 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow valve springs? At 12:43 PM 4/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >earlier, James wrote...... > >> the engine guy that I use, >> and that Stu permitted to NOT use yellow valve springs is doing some work >> for a fellow that acquired, and then decided not to use, a 429 police >> interceptor..... > Then Danger wrote: >My question is this:) What is wrong with the yellow valve springs? Absolutely positively nothing except with my "anal retentive" tendencies with this restoration I am waist deep in right now, I am *thought* to get uptight by a few (mainly Jim E. and Tony "the maniac kid" Marino) when the exact factory matching, NOS, OEM quality part is NOT installed. The valve springs are NOS Ford - painted pea green. All FE 360 valve springs I have seen in my lifetime have been yellow, not green. See pic on website below of the fresh heads. Jim's just jabbin away at me because he is a big bully. You remember the guy who used to steal your lunch money. That was Jim E. hehehehehehehehe Sorry Jimbo! 8^) Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:58:35 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Long" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- OX My truck is lifted with blocks.... Thanks for the advice and tips, but I found a set from National Tire & Wheel. ( i hope!) Rob http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4249/78.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:17:01 -0400 From: j arnold Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Interpreting vacuum gauge readings > >Got a toolbox from a bed out at my brother-in-laws'. Someone told me >the camper specials had these. It mounts on the passenger side, lower >front of the bed. Any one know where these originated ? Just curious. >Getting ready to install it in the '67. I've cut the hole so I'm >committed at this point. Or as the wife says "should be committed". >Hopefully I'll have pictures to post on my web site soon. > > I've been told that the tool box in the passenger side of the bed was on the Ranger models in the mid to late '70's. Stoney == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:27:15 -0400 From: Joe Updegrove Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams I'm getting ready to do the disc brake conversion and was wondering if I could use the complete I-beams out of the 74? How do I know if they are interchangeable? Will I mess-up any suspension geometry? This is my daily driver and don't want any problems. See ya at the show. Joe == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:30:16 -0700 From: "sam weatherby" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams Measure the length. Also make sure the hole for the radius arm is in the same place. That should be all that matters -srw Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com '70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang '65 F100 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Updegrove To: Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:27 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams > I'm getting ready to do the disc brake conversion and was wondering if I could > use the complete I-beams out of the 74? How do I know if they are > interchangeable? Will I mess-up any suspension geometry? This is my daily > driver and don't want any problems. See ya at the show. > > Joe > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:36:01 -0400 From: "Ted & Sarah Freeman" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams Joe, I would probably take the whole I-beam out of both trucks, take it to a machine shop and have them press the king pins out and swap the spindles and then put new bushings in during the re-installation. That way the machine shop has the headache of getting that king pin out and you retain the original I-beam and no worries on changing the front end geometry. The king pins in the '74 will probably need to be changed anyways. Later, - -Ted - ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Updegrove To: Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 7:27 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1974 I - beams > I'm getting ready to do the disc brake conversion and was wondering if I could > use the complete I-beams out of the 74? How do I know if they are > interchangeable? Will I mess-up any suspension geometry? This is my daily > driver and don't want any problems. See ya at the show. > > Joe > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:22:13 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 --shocks-- your not talking to the right ppl, i called up summit for a set of 4 rancho rs5000 shocks, they just asked me for the year and what type of mouting ends i had, and lift, and thats it, got and they fit just fine.. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 04:52 PM 4/27/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Rob Long wrote: >> >> Hey guys! Has anyone ever heard of having a problem with trying to get a >> set of shocks for a 78 F250 with a 4" lift (blocks). I've tryed calling >> several different stores and they all seem to just scratch their heads and >> tell to go measure the shock. Well...I'm at college and my truck is back >> home. This isn't rocket science! I'm surely not the first person in the >> world to ever need a set of shocks for that type of setup. >> If anyone has any suggestions.... please let me know. >> > > I have a 79 F-250 that supposedly has a 4" lift. How was your's >lifted? This one was done with what seems to be front leaf perch drops >only. I can measure the shovck length if you want. >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:28:07 EDT From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear axle confusion I went through this very shortly before I got my F-350. An easy way to ID a 60 from a 70 is to clean the crud off the upper portion of the passenger side of the pumpkin. If you see a 60, you have a 60, if you see a 70, you have a 70. But I have also seen a 60 with no marks at all, so I cant help ya if there are no marks. But as far as strength goes, you cant beat a 70, cept for those 80s that are available on the new SUper Duties that is. Good luck Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:57 -0700 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around >>I presently don't have any plans for a move to the left coast although I have >>family there. In my younger days....it was determined that many thermactor >>set-ups affixed themselves to the exhaust manifold with a standard NPT >>fitting. I won't go into any details. >> > >So does anyone around have one of these manifolds and pumps to help this >guy out ? I imagine a pump can be purchased new, but that doesn't help >with the bracketry at all ... anyone have any brackets they can spare for >this ? On the FE's, the thermactor tubes went into bosses on the exhaust ports of *the heads*, not into the exhaust manifold. )-: Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty "There are no stupid questions... just stupid people." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:59 -0700 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow valve springs? Stu wrote: >The valve springs are NOS Ford - painted pea green. All FE 360 valve >springs I have seen in my lifetime have been yellow, not green. See pic >on website below of the fresh heads. I've seen lots of yellow ones, never a green one. I've also seen quite a few purple ones... Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty "There are no stupid questions... just stupid people." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:55 -0700 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360 >>William >>The inspection station told me, the referee station told me, then I called >Ford >>gave them the VIN number and they said yes it came with an air pump. >>Dennis Dellinger >> >Bummer ... maybe someone on the list knows something about this ... I think >some of the 428's and such from the late 60's early 70's might have had >them, so they may be available for the FE if you dig enough, finding the >bracketry could be a problem though ... Some California cars had smog pumps at least as early as 1966. I've seen quite a few late 60's Galaxies and other big Fords with smog pumps on FE's. There's still quite a few out there... Maybe you could find someone in CA to scour some wrecking yards and come up with the appropriate brackets and pump for an FE and ship them to you. My big concern would be the heads... Do they have the air injection tubes on them to hook the smog pump up to? If not do they at least have the air injection boss on the exhaust ports so you could drill them yourself and install the air tubes? If not then you'll need a different set of heads to be able to hook the smog pump up. )-: What's the casting # on your heads ? Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty "There are no stupid questions... just stupid people." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:50:41 -0700 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - anti-sieze > > are spark plugs and lug nuts. > >> >Amen on cast iron. One of my boys used anti-sieze on his plugs for an FE and >in the process got it on the plug insulator inside and out. Shorted out the >wires and new plugs. Took him all day to get it cleaned off. It took 6 >months and another set of plugs before they quit backing out. I'm one of those who never-seizes (or Loctite, depending..) almost everything. I've used neverseize on spark plugs and and lug nuts for decades and never had any trouble. Definately gotta keep the never-seize off the plug insulators. Just put a little on the threads with a brush, don't dip the plug end into the never-seize can... (-: Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty "There are no stupid questions... just stupid people." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:49:42 EDT From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - just nonsense now, so turn it back around In a message dated 4/27/99 8:46:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sdelanty sonic.net writes: > > On the FE's, the thermactor tubes went into bosses on the exhaust ports > of *the heads*, not into the exhaust manifold. )-: > Yep you've got me. Guess what? I am a Ford convert. With age comes wisdom. I am still working on both. Stock Man (a/k/a Thom B.) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:34:28 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - This guy wants off--Ha! - -snip- > It's called a List-serv and that's how it works. You're subscribed for >life. You didn't think that answer was free, did you...? > > >Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA LOL! That's one of the best answers I've heard so far... And they believed me when I said there wasn't a catch! ;-) Ken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:46:53 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? i love my powerstroke, but it cost a fortune to have it worked on. 13 quarts of oil is bad enough, especialy synthetic at 3.97 a qt. mine had a bad injector, sent it in for repair, $4500.00 worth of work. thank the lord it was under warranty. Now i'm trying to sell, and find me a 78-79 f250 4x4 in good condition, something i can work on. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:15:54 EDT From: MongoCaver aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-350 .. diesel or gas ? I ran a fuel injection shop for 9 1/2 years. We specialized in the systems on diesel engines, but also did full engine work. You have to tune up a gas engine several times in its life, but one single diesel injection system tune-up can cost a whole lot more than all the gas tune-ups combined. Also compare the costs of rebuilding the engines, even though I have seen 6.9/7.3 diesels with over 350,000 miles on them, it still costs 3 times as much to overhaul them. The last time I saw a 6.9/7.3 in a wrecking yard they wanted $3000 for it. I can still remember 90% of what I ever knew about diesels, but I recently bought a 78 F350 crewcab with a 460 because I can easily fix anything that goes wrong with it when I am out in the boonies. No computers, no governors, no injectors, no glowplugs, no O2 sensors. What a joy it is to work on. Just my opinion. James == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:31:08 -0400 From: "Phil" Subject: FTE 61-79 - vibration I have a vibration in my 79 F-250 4x4, i checked the u-joints and only have a very slight bit of play in them. It also has alot of play in the drivetrain when i real fast give it gas or let off it makes a really loud clunk. I think it is in the rearend, my question is, is there supposed to be any play in the rear end and if so how much is exceptable? i will be checking everything out this weekend. Phil Beattie 66 F100 390 C6 66 F100 parts truck 79 F250 4x4 400 C6 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:07:49 -0700 From: John Lord Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Anti-Sieze Wow! i use it on everthing. Unless the instructions on the repacement part say not too. As long as your not to libral on the spark plugs you never have a problem the thing to keep in mind is that most torque specs are "dry specs" if you lube the part with anything you can then overtighten it moog and trw will tell you not to with things like their 4x4 ball joint threads but cheat a little out here where the saltwater gets into everything. "William L. Ballinger" wrote: > > > you will never cross thread one. You will also eliminate an often > > overlooked tuneup problem. Two places where anti-sieze shouldn't be used > > are spark plugs and lug nuts. > > I must respectfully disagree with your final statement, though > anti-sieze isn't necessary in every case it doesn't hurt. Aluminum > heads must have it, without fail. And you have to get them torqued to > specs, or they wont ground right. Anti-sieze isn't as necessary on > cast iron, if you get the plugs tight and the threads and seats are > clean and paint free, they'll ground fine and wont collect moisture..... 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