61-79-list-digest Sunday, April 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 140



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - RE - PowerBreaks
FTE 61-79 - frame swaps
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 4X4 Short Bed Value
FTE 61-79 - Looking for idea's for a Ram Air set-up
Re: FTE 61-79 - P/S
Re: FTE 61-79 - frame swaps
FTE 61-79 - neutral/park safety switch
FTE 61-79 - FS: '69 F250 360/C-6
FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F-350
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Keep the catalog requests OFF the list
FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F-350
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F-350
Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Keep the catalog requests OFF the list
FTE 61-79 - how to get off this mailing list
FTE 61-79 - Clutch throw arm
Re: FTE 61-79 - FORD COWGIRL HERE!!
FTE 61-79 - speaking of rare 4x4 f250
Re: FTE 61-79 -another Turn Signals
Re: FTE 61-79 - 428 crank?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 F350
FTE 61-79 - Re:360FE Swap/Power Steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:360FE Swap/Power Steering
FTE 61-79 - Disc brake conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:360FE Swap/Power Steering

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:17:32 -0400
From: "John Pajak"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE - PowerBreaks

You wrote:
I also know the rear brakes are shot.
Any ideas?
-srw


>Yep! If the rear brakes are adjusted too loose then you have too much brake
pedal travel, and the pedal CAN bottom out!!!!. Adjust the rear brakes and
you will be OK.

John Pajak

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 06:17:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Daniel DiMartino
Subject: FTE 61-79 - frame swaps

what differences will i encounter putting a '68 f-250 2wd on a f-250
4x4 frame? what years work best? adios




==
Daniel DiMartino

1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:51:41 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 4X4 Short Bed Value

>
> I was looking at pictures on Bill's truck and noticed that there is a few differences between his and mine.
> My webpage is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pages.hotbot.com/fan/65fordf100/index.html
> and Bill's is still above.
> The differences (besides his being a F-250 and mine an F100) is the grille,


I don't know if the grille has been replaced, but it looks like a '66
grille to me. It's the only one available I've seen for the '65-66
trucks, so it could have been. The difference in body lines are
specific to the F250 4X4. The front fenders are like a 1 ton, the frame
is like a '61-'64, and the bed is like a '57-'60. These trucks were
made differently than the 4X2 trucks. Really like they were made from
leftover parts.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:25:55 -0700
From: "John Webster"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Looking for idea's for a Ram Air set-up

To all the Readers,

I have a '77 F150 4X4 with a nicely worked 460, I moved the batteries to
the bed in Marine battery boxes and all the other electrical to the
firewall. With inner fenders uncluttered and the size of a small living room
I'm setting up for a Ram Air system. I have the inlets mounted on the
radiator cradle already but as for an airbox I'm looking for help.
www.ramairbox.com has a filter assembly but at $240.00 it seems a bit
expensive for an air filter. Anyone have any suggestions on making a box or
have any experience to pass along. Thanks.

John.

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:19:14 -0800
From: "Erik Marquez"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - P/S

- -----Original Message-----
From: TIGE HARMON
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 7:03 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - P/S


>ERIK,
>I WOULD APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP YOU GOT ON THE SWAP I'VE GOT
>A 74 CREW CAB 4X4 WITH THE SAME NEED FOR THE SWAP THAT I
>REALLY WANT TO SWAP SINCE YOU'RE DOING THIS I WOULD LOVE TO
>HEAR YOUR STORIES HORROR AND GOOD AS WELL ON THIS SWAP. I
>DON'T MIND WELDING OR CUTTING I JUST NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE
>DRAG LINKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THANKS AGAIN.
>LATER!


Good day, currently I will not be doing the steering swap. I chose not to
buy the truck in question, there fore no need for the swap. So depending on
what kind of steering setup (what year) is on the next truck I may still do
this. If so I'll post my procedures for all to read.

Erik Marquez
78 Bronco
bronco78 mosquitonet.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mosquitonet.com/~bronco78
bronco78 on the BB chat

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:44:18 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - frame swaps

Daniel DiMartino wrote:

> what differences will i encounter putting a '68 f-250 2wd on a f-250
> 4x4 frame? what years work best? adios
>
> ==
> Daniel DiMartino
>
> 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4

What would work best would be 67-72. You can also use the 73-79 F250 with
the narrow frame rear at 34". In 73 the F100,150 widened the rear of the
frame under the bed. The cab will bolt up to all the years fine.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:07:24 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - neutral/park safety switch

if you're diggin into one on
at a salvage yard, think you can tell me how that little pin that sticks
up is attached ? :) j/k


It just clips on,but it is a real bear to do laying under the dash and
reaching around the top of the column.It will only clip if it is in
exactly the right spot.They are still available from Ford but they are
about $12 if I remember correctly.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:12:03 -0700
From: Sean Hess
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FS: '69 F250 360/C-6

Fellow list members,

My wife and I just found out that we have a new baby on the way, and the
three-seater truck needs to be replaced with something that can carry four
people. Sadly, I'm going to sell my 1969 F250 Ranger/Camper Special
360/C-6/LWB. Here are some details:

Mileage: Precise mileage unknown, but the odometer shows almost 71,000. I'd
guess that it has 170,000 miles on it.

Engine: The original 390 was replaced with a reman. 360 sometime in the past.
It has the stock 2V intake and a "new" remanufactured Autolite 2100 carb. I
put a Crane Fireball electronic ignition on it, and Midas recently installed a
new exhaust system.

Transmission: C-6 with a transmission cooler. The driveshaft is in the shop
right now to have new U-joints and center-support bearing replaced.

Brakes: Power drum brakes. I just had Midas replace all shoes and drums, and
it stops great.

Body: The body is in good shape. It has a few dings, but no cancerous rust or
Bondo.

Manuals: It will come with a complete, mint-condition set of 1969 shop manuals
and a wiring diagram.

I haven't put it in the paper yet, but I will do so by next weekend. The price
will start at $1800 OBO. My home address and phone number are listed below.

Dr. Hess

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sean Hess, Ph.D.
Mazama Cultural Resource Services (MCRS)
10910 N.E. Knott St.
Portland, Oregon 97220
(503) 261-8591
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/schess/index.html
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:19:15 -0400
From: "George W. Selby, III"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F-350

Sounds like a F-250 Low boy to me, but I'm no expert. Maybe they put on
350 badges or fenders at some point in time (same time as the "custom" flat
bed probably.)

George
78-F-150 400, 4 on th Floor, 4x4

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:14:12 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Keep the catalog requests OFF the list

Auto Krafters asked that you send catalog requests privately.
Keep such requests **OFF** the list, it causes too much signal
to noise ratio.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:27:40 -0700
From: Dennis Dellinger
Subject: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360

Hello

This is the first time I have posted to so I apologies for any gaffes in
advance. My problem is that I have a 1976 F-150 that won't pass
California visual smog check (they would not put it on the machine even
at the referee station). This year of truck should have an air pump but
at some point the engine was apparently changed. I don't know if the
engine that is currently in the truck ever had an air pump. This one
does have EGR and a charcoal canister. I did look for the tag under the
coil, no luck. I would be grateful for any help in identifying this
engines year and if I can add the pump with it's attendant plumbing to
it .
Thank you
Dennis Dellinger

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:59:09 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F-350

"George W. Selby, III" wrote:

> Sounds like a F-250 Low boy to me, but I'm no expert. Maybe they put on
> 350 badges or fenders at some point in time (same time as the "custom" flat
> bed probably.)
>
> George
> 78-F-150 400, 4 on th Floor, 4x4
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I'm looking at a 79 F-350 right now. 400, NP435, 205, D60 front and rear.
The suspension is almost the same as the F-250 of those years, mated t-case
negative arch front springs. Just a little higher GVWR. It will have that
slight raked look and with the 16.5 rims might look like it sits as low as the
F-150.

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:33:38 EDT
From: DocrFate aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F-350

Hi. Thank you for your mail, but I only needed one question answered about a
Ford truck for a friend, and that has been answered. Now every day, I get
tons of mail about Ford trucks. Could you please, tell me how to get off this
mailing list? Thank you very much.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:34:01 EDT
From: DocrFate aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - How to identify the year of a Ford 360

Hi. Thank you for your mail, but I only needed one question answered about a
Ford truck for a friend, and that has been answered. Now every day, I get
tons of mail about Ford trucks. Could you please, tell me how to get off this
mailing list? Thank you very much.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:34:17 EDT
From: DocrFate aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Keep the catalog requests OFF the list

Hi. Thank you for your mail, but I only needed one question answered about a
Ford truck for a friend, and that has been answered. Now every day, I get
tons of mail about Ford trucks. Could you please, tell me how to get off this
mailing list? Thank you very much.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:05:10 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: FTE 61-79 - how to get off this mailing list

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Click on this URL, it appears at the bottom of every message.

Ted


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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:52:09 EDT
From: JPatte5238 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clutch throw arm

I just purchase a 1965 F100 shortbed V8 3 speed. The condition is in rather
poor shape, but I felt sorry for the little sucker and bought it. I plan to
take the truck down to the frame and give it a new life. My first question
is, the clutch throw arm is out of the bell housing. I took the tranny out
and installed a new throw out bearing. But I can't get the throw arm back
into place. I am currently trying to install it with the bell housing and
tranny in place. Is this the wrong way of doing it? Or do I have to install
the bell housing and tranny on the ground to install the clutch arm?

Thank You in advance

John Patterson
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:15:43 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FORD COWGIRL HERE!!

your not the only guy around here in wranglers, been in team roping with my
cousin for about 5 years, just starting to get into bronk riding... I
havent seen that ford sticker that your talking about, but I need one!

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 10:40 AM 4/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
> Here is a sticker on the window of my '72 F250 it
>reads "Ford, the offical truck of the PRCA (Pro Rodeo
>Cowboy Ass.)" and one that reads,"This Cowboy Kicks."
> that should tell a little about me.
> I am 18 and from Iowa, I ride Bulls and Bronks, and
>I am also a member of the "Iowa Mud Busters Ass."
> My 1972's with an attitudes, (stats', 1972 Ford 250
>short box 4x4, rollbar, 6 KC Lites, brush gaurd, 12in
>suspention lift, 4in body lift, Ruby Red and High
>gloss Black, with a Tan Mustang painted behind bolth
>rear wheel wells, and a 460ci with turbo charger.
> I also have a 1972 Ford 250 sport custom 4x2,
>primer gray, 6 KC Lites, brush gaurd, headach rack,
>toolbox, AG bumper, and a 360ci under the hood with a
>rebuilt tranny with duce and a half, and Catipiller
>gears.) And bolth trucks are always equipted with mud.
>Texas
>
>
>
>
>
>---Bad4dFilly aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Howdy everybody! Some of ya may know me from the
>"Offroad" list, but for
>> those of ya that don't, allow me to introduce
>myself! *Tippin my Stetson* My
>> name is Lisa, I'm 16 I live
>in Southern California
>> and I drive a big bad FORD! LOL I bought my first
>vehicle last month....a
>> automatic '77 Ford F-150 Ranger 4x4, it's a
>standard cab short bed lifted 4"
>> and currently on 33" tires
>would like to get bigger tires
>> on it soon, possibly 38"s> and it's Emerald green,
>so I named her "Envy" =)
>> I am unsure as to what size engine it has under the
>hood, I was under the
>> impression it was a 400ci bored .030....so I
>assumed that would make it a
>> 403, but I have been told it would actually be a
>408ci
>> stock, 4.00 bore X 4.00 stroke make 402.12ci> and
>that size engine bored .030
>> comes out to 408.17ci. I don't know if thats
>accurate, just what I've been
>> told. So as you can see, I have a big engine, but
>I'm not sure exactly HOW
>> big it is! LOL Anyways, I LOVE driving it, it's SO
>much fun! I haven't takin
>> it 4xing yet, but I hope to soon! I do have a pic
>of my truck if anyone would
>> like to see it. I wanna see everyone's truck also!
>Well, I guess that's about
>> all, nice to meet y'all and talk to y'all soon!
>Bye! =)
>>
>> *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
>> *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
>That's my license plate frame
>> hehe
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>DO YOU YAHOO!?
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:41:49 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - speaking of rare 4x4 f250

there is a guy here in town that has an unibody f250 4x4, i saw the truck
briefly, a friend of mine knows the owner and he says the truck is an
original 4x4. first of all i didn't think there was such a thing as a unibody
f250. and second of all i didn't think there was ever a 4x4 unibody f100 or
250. what gives here? the truck may be for sale and the price maybe right, it
looks pretty tuff. i hope i can inspect it closer in the next few weeks.

jeff grant
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:45:51 EDT
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -another Turn Signals

Have you considered some kind of heli-coil type arrangement? I have
protected the threads in my turn signal switch by cutting threads on an
appropriately sized brass rod and using that for a turn signal lever. Shines
up nice. I was gonna turn a little wood knob for it but haven't gotten
around to it yet.

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer

Dennis wrote:

>Now that turn signals have come up, it reminds me that I am looking for a
>part. I do not know what the technical name for it is, but it is the part
>into which the turn signal lever screws.
(snip)
>These seem to be pot metal or some such material
>that allows its threads to be easily stripped. I have seen several in the
>same condition as mine (threads gone). Right now I am using a long sheet
>metal screw which doesn't really seem to grip well enough and is always
>falling out.


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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:46:00 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 428 crank?

are you sure its a crack, i have seen some cranks that have been welded up,
and when they were ground, sometimes it looked just like a crack where weld
beads meet.

jeff grant
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:50:45 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 F350

there is a 1975 F350 crew cab in the local trader, the guy wants 12,000.00
for it.
sounds REAL STEEP to me, but if anyone wants the number let me know. i
remember several years ago these things were all over the place, you could
buy them from the local power supply company at their auctions.

jeff grant
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:53:59 -0700
From: sparky mail.island.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:360FE Swap/Power Steering

First of all thanks to everyone who gave me info on the 360FE swap into
the 80ish F Series. I must say it was real tempting to try. I went over to
do a few measurements on the new truck and I am sure it would have fit,
although it would have been an interesting project. The major stumbling
point was that the "new" truck not only had a dead engine it also had very
little frame left. The nasty "rust gods" were not nice to this truck.
The search continues for a new home for my spare FE {:^)
To anyone interested I completed the power assist to true power steering
swap on my truck last night. What a difference :^) It wasnt that hard, the
hardest part was using the cutting torch on my truck. I was so happy I went
and swapped the 2v Holley for the 4v Holley off of my parts truck.
If anyone wants more info on the power steering swap just drop me an email.

Sparky
73 F250 4x4
390FE now a 4v

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:34:46 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:360FE Swap/Power Steering

sparky mail.island.net wrote:

> If anyone wants more info on the power steering swap just drop me an email.
>
Hi I also own a 74 f250 high boy and would like some infop on the power
steering swap. The power assist does not work to well on my truck (very
little to no assist to the right, but perfect to the left)

also how can I tell if the 360 is an FE model

Thanks
Kirk Baillie
74 f250 3/4 ton high-boy
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:48:57 -0700
From: "Richard A, Miller"
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