61-79-list-digest Monday, January 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 014



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits
FTE 61-79 - Re: A/C in 79
FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards
FTE 61-79 - Burnt main wiring harness
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits
FTE 61-79 - Hard Starting While Hot
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards
FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left
FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards
Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left
Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits
Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left
FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap
FTE 61-79 - Stu's Truck

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:44:40 -0800
From: "Jacques and Barbara DeKalb"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits

Has anyone had experience repairing their padded dash with one of those
vinyl repair kits from JC Whitney or Eastwood? I recently bought a '70 F-100
Ranger 4X4 at the county forfeited vehicle auction. The truck turned out to
be great, but this high-desert sun has really cooked the dash. I have
another to put in it, but it has small, 1/4" to 1/2", long cracks that I
would like to fix.

Jacques, Bend, Ore (the Pacific Northwest)

'64 F-100, 4" chop, 302, Torino sub-frame
'65 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 429, C-6
'68 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 390, C-6
'70 F-100, Ranger 4X4, SWB, 360, NP
'75 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 429, C-6



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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:00:47 EST
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: A/C in 79

The A/C setup is not too bad to put in a truck that was originally without.
You have to remove the engine (or entire frontend) to get to the fire wall.
You should really get the firewall for a template, as it is a large cutout and
has "folded-in" edges. You will need the wiring harness, vacuum harness,
heater contols, internal air ductwork, etc. The radiator core will have to
have a hole installed (around 1-3/4" dia. for rubber grommet with A/C lines)
All I suggest is if you really want to do it......remove it from the doner
truck. This way you can see what you are up against. I just parted out a
1979 Bronco, and a guy on the Big Bronco List bought all that A/C stuff
mentioned. He's coming to get the stuff today (Sunday around 12:00). Where
do you live anyway? I live in New Jersey and could give you the firewall, if
you bring more sawzall blades!!! Truck goes to the Junkyard tommorrow.....
Wayne Grabley
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 08:31:51 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards

"James A. Doty" wrote:
> I've noticed that it can be hard to find old Ford van parts
> in the local junk yards. I wonder if this is an indication
> that most old Fords around here are either on the road or
> run until there's nothing left to scrap.

I've noticed something even worse. When calling around I
am hearing the term "80s and up only".

There is a yard in Battleground, WA called Dollars Corner
Truck Wrecking? They have about 15-20 '73-79 trucks, many
with lots of parts on them and quite a few '67-72's. The
guy at the counter told me they are getting away from the
pre-80's stuff because the demand is going away.

He did say when they get a 4X4 in it is totally stripped
of running gear in a matter of days. :(

Didn't notice if they had any vans. If you haven't been
there you might give them a call. I think their prices
are a bit high but, still good compared to new parts from
Ford. I got a dash pad from a '75 for $75 and an aux
battery tray for $25. At Ford the battery tray is $70.

By the way, do you know any body shops in the area that still
know how to do metalwork? I find most are basically parts
replacers these days. I have a small spot near a stake hole
that is rusted through and a ding on a front fender that has
a crack I am going to want to get fixed.

Mark in SW Washington
- --
'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 08:33:42 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Burnt main wiring harness

I am just finishing up a major project. I went to swap the
stereos between the F-100 and F-250 and found there was
burned wire in the harness the the F-100. It burned other
wires in several places and lots of wires were stuck
together.

The PO mentioned that the coil had been hooked up backwards
once. The burned wire is the one from the ignition switch
to the coil. Actually the wire from the coil to the
harness is OK, I guess because it has thicker insulation.
In the harness it branches to the ignition switch,
regulator, and instrument cluster with smaller wires which
were all burnt.

I haven't been able to figure out how backwards wiring on
the coil would do this. Anyone have any idea?

I removed the harness and layed it out on the dining room
table. When my wife saw it, she thought I had lost my
mind. "You're gonna fix that?"

I carefully separated the wires from each other with the
help of an x-acto knife and, one at a time, replaced all of
the damaged sections. I spliced the wires by pulling the
insulation off a butt-crimp, crimping, soldering, and
covering with shrink tubing.

During the process I held the harness together with tie-
wraps and finally wrapped the harness with black electrical
tape, cutting the tie-wraps off as I went. Looks factory.

There were these purple wire loops in there that had
printed on them "RESISTOR - DO NOT CUT OR SPLICE". I
thought it was neat that Ford would bother to have them
labeled like that.

If it is not raining I am going to pull the harness from
the F-250 today, put this one in it, and swap it into the
F-100 so I can have the better instrument cluster with the
oil pressure and ammeter gauges.

Mark in SW Washington
- --
'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 08:56:50 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits

There's a company that sells shells that cover dash pads. On the
Shadtree Mechanic TV program last week they covered the pad on a 85 or
so F250. Looked pretty sharp. I believe you could order something
like that through a good auto parts store.

Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
71 F100
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:06:30 -0800
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hard Starting While Hot

>ALmost believable, what cars were they?
>
The first was a 1958 348 CID and the second was a 1960 389 (No name). A
friend of mine also had a 1954 Ford sedan with the same problem. I was
told if I the head gasket was replaced and the pistons + rings were cleaned
the problem would go away.
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:11:19 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards

- -----Original Message-----
From: draco pacifier.com
>
>I've noticed something even worse. When calling around I
>am hearing the term "80s and up only".
>
>There is a yard in Battleground, WA called Dollars Corner
>Truck Wrecking? They have about 15-20 '73-79 trucks, many
>with lots of parts on them and quite a few '67-72's. The
>guy at the counter told me they are getting away from the
>pre-80's stuff because the demand is going away.
>
>He did say when they get a 4X4 in it is totally stripped
>of running gear in a matter of days. :(


So if the demand is going away why are the trucks being stripped "in matter
of days"? Doesn't make allot of sense. BTW there is a place in Portland on
SE Foster called LTP (Light Truck Parts). I've had good luck there in the
past.

Bill Beyer
La Center, WA


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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:07:21 -0500 (EST)
From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left

Hello all i have a problem with my truck
pulling to the left. it was pulling to the right . the tires that were
on it had one that was worn on the right side of the truck so i thought
that was the problem
so i put new tires on it yesterday now it pulls to the left bad i
checked the air pressure and that is not the problem any ideas . I put
the same size tires on it
33x12.50R16.5 . Thanks for any help .



Randy
1977 F250 4x4
1970 F100 2wd
1978 F150 2wd

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:12:56 -0800
From: "James A. Doty"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards

Hi there Mark:

I haven't been out to Dollars Corner yet, but someday I will.

I don't know of any body shop in town that does what I would
call good sheet metal work. I had my left rear door repaired
at Cascade after I was rear-ended. They didn't do a very good
repair job in my opinion.

I have found a few parts on occasion at U-Pull-It. Mostly
switches though.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:20:05 -0800
From: MC
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Pacific Northwest - Wrecking yards

Bill Beyer wrote:

>
> BTW there is a place in Portland on
> SE Foster called LTP (Light Truck Parts). I've had good luck there in the
> past.
>
> Bill Beyer
> La Center, WA

Have any of you been to Woody's? I hear from people at work that all they deal
in is 4x4's, but I haven't had the opportunity to check them out. I hear there
is also a place up around Chehalis or Centralia that is all 4x4's also. I
think it is called Torgeson's or something like that, but never been there,
either.

- --
Matt Cozad
Kelso, Wa
1994 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 "Yoda"
1970 F100 4x4 "Jabba the Truck"
1969 F100 4x4 "Spare Parts"


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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:58:23 -0700
From: Robert N Kuhns
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left

check your steering stabilizer, they wear out fast with he big meats


RANDY D wrote:

> Hello all i have a problem with my truck
> pulling to the left. it was pulling to the right . the tires that were
> on it had one that was worn on the right side of the truck so i thought
> that was the problem
> so i put new tires on it yesterday now it pulls to the left bad i
> checked the air pressure and that is not the problem any ideas . I put
> the same size tires on it
> 33x12.50R16.5 . Thanks for any help .
>
> Randy
> 1977 F250 4x4
> 1970 F100 2wd
> 1978 F150 2wd
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:32:24 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left

Well, of course, it could be your allignment. But you've probally allready
thought of that. So lift both front tires off the ground and see if one of
the brakes are dragging, even if its just a little bit it will make it
pull. If it dragging, heres what ya do.

Its usally either the caliper or rubber brake line, so.

C-clap the caliper a little bit, now open the bleeder and c-clamp it the
rest of the way, if its alot easier, then it the rubber line, if its still
hard (it still might be a little bit easier, but not alot), then its the
caliper..

Ifs its none of these, then i dont know? Sorry i cant help anymore than
this...

Cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 04:08 PM 1/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hello all i have a problem with my truck
>pulling to the left. it was pulling to the right . the tires that were
>on it had one that was worn on the right side of the truck so i thought
>that was the problem
>so i put new tires on it yesterday now it pulls to the left bad i
>checked the air pressure and that is not the problem any ideas . I put
>the same size tires on it
>33x12.50R16.5 . Thanks for any help .
>
>
>
>Randy
>1977 F250 4x4
>1970 F100 2wd
>1978 F150 2wd
>
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:53:00 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

1. Events guide updated
2. Many new links added
3. Pictorial updated and redesigned. Navigation should be much quicker.
4. Awards page updated. We're received 3 new awards in the last 2
weeks.

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:19:52 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits

I don't know about the repair kits, but i recently (actually got it for
Christmas, Santee Claus was really good to me!) purchased a set of
replacement "deluxe" door panels (with padded armrests and everything!) and
a dash cap for my '79 F-250 from Whitney. The door panels fit perfectly,
and took less than an hour to cut and form the waterproofing plastic and
insulation, and install the door panels. The dashcap, though i haven't had
to time to glue it on yet, fits over the existing dash more than perfectly,
and my dash was looking VERY bad before it...makes the interior of the
truck look brand new, especially after a fresh coat of Armor All! I don't
know about a '70 (though i am thinking about buying one for the ol' '68
farm truck) but i would strongly advise you look at the replacement door
panels...i was, shockingly, surprised at the quality of Whitney's
parts...first time that has happened!

- --Bud
1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18
1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale)

At 05:44 AM 1/17/15 -0800, you wrote:
>Has anyone had experience repairing their padded dash with one of those
>vinyl repair kits from JC Whitney or Eastwood? I recently bought a '70 F-100
>Ranger 4X4 at the county forfeited vehicle auction. The truck turned out to
>be great, but this high-desert sun has really cooked the dash. I have
>another to put in it, but it has small, 1/4" to 1/2", long cracks that I
>would like to fix.
>
>Jacques, Bend, Ore (the Pacific Northwest)
>
>'64 F-100, 4" chop, 302, Torino sub-frame
>'65 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 429, C-6
>'68 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 390, C-6
>'70 F-100, Ranger 4X4, SWB, 360, NP
>'75 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 429, C-6
>
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:27:19 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash repair kits

I meant that i would suggest you look at the dash caps they have, though i
was very impressed with the door panels as well. :)

- --Bud

At 12:19 AM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know about the repair kits, but i recently (actually got it for
>Christmas, Santee Claus was really good to me!) purchased a set of
>replacement "deluxe" door panels (with padded armrests and everything!) and
>a dash cap for my '79 F-250 from Whitney. The door panels fit perfectly,
>and took less than an hour to cut and form the waterproofing plastic and
>insulation, and install the door panels. The dashcap, though i haven't had
>to time to glue it on yet, fits over the existing dash more than perfectly,
>and my dash was looking VERY bad before it...makes the interior of the
>truck look brand new, especially after a fresh coat of Armor All! I don't
>know about a '70 (though i am thinking about buying one for the ol' '68
>farm truck) but i would strongly advise you look at the replacement door
>panels...i was, shockingly, surprised at the quality of Whitney's
>parts...first time that has happened!
>
>--Bud
>1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18
>1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale)
>
>At 05:44 AM 1/17/15 -0800, you wrote:
>>Has anyone had experience repairing their padded dash with one of those
>>vinyl repair kits from JC Whitney or Eastwood? I recently bought a '70 F-100
>>Ranger 4X4 at the county forfeited vehicle auction. The truck turned out to
>>be great, but this high-desert sun has really cooked the dash. I have
>>another to put in it, but it has small, 1/4" to 1/2", long cracks that I
>>would like to fix.
>>
>>Jacques, Bend, Ore (the Pacific Northwest)
>>
>>'64 F-100, 4" chop, 302, Torino sub-frame
>>'65 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 429, C-6
>>'68 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 390, C-6
>>'70 F-100, Ranger 4X4, SWB, 360, NP
>>'75 F-250, Crewcab, SNB, 429, C-6
>>
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:28:51 -0600
From: "Ted Stringfellow"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left

Check your idler arm on your steering for play...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert N Kuhns
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pulling right or left


>check your steering stabilizer, they wear out fast with he big meats
>
>
>RANDY D wrote:
>
>> Hello all i have a problem with my truck
>> pulling to the left. it was pulling to the right . the tires that were
>> on it had one that was worn on the right side of the truck so i thought
>> that was the problem
>> so i put new tires on it yesterday now it pulls to the left bad i
>> checked the air pressure and that is not the problem any ideas . I put
>> the same size tires on it
>> 33x12.50R16.5 . Thanks for any help .
>>
>> Randy
>> 1977 F250 4x4
>> 1970 F100 2wd
>> 1978 F150 2wd
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:47:31 -0800
From: "The Zahns"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap

hello all,
Well it finally happened. The old 429 in my 71 F350 finally blew a head
gasket or something. It just started leaking coolant out the exhaust pipes.
Since that engine has over 200,000 miles on it since the last rebuild it
decided that it was time to move on up to a 460. I was able to buy one from
a neighbor and am getting ready to make the swap. I am not sure what the
460 came out of originally but it was in his Ford F350 for awhile. What I
am wondering about is what kind of trouble can I avoid by asking you all for
advice before I start.
I remember hearing about having to switch the oil pan some time ago but I
can't remember what the advice was.
Also my 429 has a point type distributor and the 460 has electronic
ignition. How do I hook up that aluminum box etc. to my wiring?
I think that I will be replacing the exhaust system also. I was thinking
about buying one of those kits from JCW that is made for a 71 with a 390 in
it. Does anyone know if that will hook up to the 460?
Anything else you all can think of so I can learn from the experiences of
others I will appreciate.
Thanks
FredZ

71 F350
89 E350 Club Wagon
97 Taurus

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:17:06 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 engine swap

In a message dated 1/17/99 10:43:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
us5zahns earthlink.net writes:


gasket or something. >>

Externally there should not be any differences between that 429 and the 460.
As for the oil pan use what ever pan the 429 has. The same exhaust system
that fits the 429 also fits the 460. The 390 system will not. As for the
electronic conversion for the distributor, see the FTE home page it has an
excellent procedure and explanation. The only problem I can think of would be
if you are running a manual transmission and you install the 429 flywheel on
the 460 and the 460 turns out to be an externally balanced engine. But, you....


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