61-79-list-digest Monday, April 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 132



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Duallies
Re: FTE 61-79 - 9" pinion seal
Re: FTE 61-79 - dealer installed A/c Help
FTE 61-79 - Why I love this group
FTE 61-79 - 63 Truck
FTE 61-79 - FE Block Hugger Headers!
FTE 61-79 - 300 I6 engine differences?
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
FTE 61-79 - FYI (429)
FTE 61-79 - Cost of 460 installation into '79 4x4??
FTE 61-79 - 77 steering question.
Re: FTE 61-79 - dealer installed A/c Help

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:11:03 EDT
From: JefriHansn aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Duallies

My brother-in-law, who's one of those Pee-Wee Herman types, bought a
shiney new crewcab dually 4WD Chevy's last fall for his Mid-Mo Asphalt Paving
company. He got the dually for the weight carrying capacity - what he found
this winter was the truck was TOTALLY helpless in snow as little as 6 inches
deep, stuck in anything greater than that. Locked in 4WD it moved, but was
still clumbsy.
Anybody in the Chicago area know where I can get a trans for my 79 F150
4WD? I beleave it's a NP 435., but not sure. Any body out there ever change
a manual over to a C-6? I thinking the torque converter would absorb this
beasty 429 and 35 inch tires better then the direct connection of a
clutch/gears without ripping something out EVERYTIME I DRIVE IT.
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:24:01 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 9" pinion seal

At 11:43 PM 17/04/99 PDT, you wrote:
If the yoke has a groove worn in it you will have to have it turned and
sleeved or find a different one.
>
>Steve

Or you can use a speedi-sleeve. Just put aviation form-a-gasket on the
offending yoke and then tap on the speedi-sleeve with a hammer and that
installation cup they give you in the box.


marko

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:58:22 -0700
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - dealer installed A/c Help

Pat,

that is a factory installed one when it has the controls in thedash
and you lose your glove box..The ones I have mount under the dash but
you keep your glove box and heater in tact..Its Just an A/c unit
no heat like the dealer one..And the controls are on the unit itself..
These units seem to be the mystery i've found out..Even Ford parts
counters are baffled by it...It does though have a little ford symbol
on it???
Joe
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:24:57 -0700
From: John & Iva McKay
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Why I love this group

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:28:33 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

At 05:10 PM 4/17/99 -0400, Philip MacLaren wrote:
> I am signing off this list after this post you guys are not all
there.
>
>Philip MacLaren
>Father
>Ford Owner
>Fabulous
>Fabricator
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I've taken care of it for you and made sure you can't
come back. Nothing worse than cutting someone down
then running for the hills.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Thanks Ken !
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John L. McKay
Mesa, Arizona
'67 F-100 Custom Cab
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:21:01 -0700
From: Al Evitts
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 63 Truck

Steve: I owned a 63 new and have been looking for one to restore or
resurrect. Have found a unibody 63 pretty rare but can't get owner to
turn loose. Would be interested in hearing and seeing some of your
project. Thanx

Al
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:27:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Block Hugger Headers!

I got the Sanderson Headers installed, exhaust system built, and my
web page updated with lots of pictures and info on the installation.
Take a look. I am extremely pleased with the way this turned out!

Mark in Southwest Washington
www.pacifier.com/~draco
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'74 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:51:13 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 I6 engine differences?

I have a tired 240 I6 original engine in my '66 Club Wagon and I'd like to
possibly replace this with a 300 I6. I know the 300 is very common. Is the
300 basically a stroked 240? I know the block is the same.

I want to stay with the I6 so that it bolts right in and I can keep the
stock appearance. Perhaps I'll go with some very mild performance gear from
Clifford, but I'm not looking for horsepower, just something reliable that
can go another 100K+ miles. I'd like to stay with a carbuerator set-up, not
FI, and I'd like to keep the emissions equipment simple.

Can anyone tell me what differences in the 300 I might want to look for?
For example, is there a span of years that has a better head, intake
manifold, simple smog equipment, etc?

I know that some of you would say to chuck the I6 for a V8, but I like to
keep things simple and low-budget.

PS: If there is anyone near Philadelphia, PA with an extra 300 sitting
around, let me know.

Thanks,
don

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:35:18 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

- - Ford press release added to news section
- - Following added to pictorial:
1948 F6 fire engine
1956 F100
1956 F100
1966 F350
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4
1995 F150 XLT
1996 F250 HD
1999 F350 Superduty Crewcab
- - Several links added to links sections

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:12:06 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

who cares what this guy thinks, i think u's guys is swell. ha ha.

jeff grant
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:38:35 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FYI (429)

I was at a truck auction this week end and discovered that several 1989
F-800s had 429s from the factory. I looked at the engines very closely and
they appear to be essentially the same as the ones Ford quit putting in cars
in 1972. Sounds similar to the way they handled the FE engine. Anyone know
if these are the same as the 429/460 blocks we discuss from time to time?
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:47:46 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cost of 460 installation into '79 4x4??

I was wondering if anybody out there could give me a rough idea of
the cost of all the hardware needed to install a 460 into my '79 F-150 4x4.
I tried calling L&L to get their catalog, but they never answer their damn
phone apparently.
What all do I need in the way of motor mounts, brackets, and "this
that and the other"? What do all these little items cost and what am I
looking at collectively?


Thanks
Dale Frenz
frenz.6 osu.edu


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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:30:45 -0800
From: "Erik Marquez"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 77 steering question.

Gang I was looking at a 77f250 4wd, crew cab today and noticed it had the
funky power steering setup that ford used for a few years, (Hyd Ram
connected to the drag link) So I have a few questions for the truck
experts.. (Bronco's I know, F stuff I'm not so sure) 1) What years had
this steering set up? 2) Is there a bolt on steering or axle & steering
swap? 3) Is this type of steering setup as bad as I've been lead to
believe? i.e.. very complicated system, prone to leaks, not capable of
accommodating sever off road use.


OK, so there it is, fire away. Thanks in advance for any help that you all
may be able to provide.

Erik Marquez
78 Bronco
bronco78 mosquitonet.com
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:04:30 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - dealer installed A/c Help

Joe wrote:
>
> Pat,
>
> that is a factory installed one when it has the controls in thedash
> and you lose your glove box..The ones I have mount under the dash but
> you keep your glove box and heater in tact..Its Just an A/c unit
> no heat like the dealer one..And the controls are on the unit itself..
> These units seem to be the mystery i've found out..Even Ford parts
> counters are baffled by it...

Sounds like an aftermarket unit, right up until you typed:

>It does though have a little ford symbol n it???

Hmmmm. Any ford numbers anywhere? It seems like in the '60s
there were a lot of aftermarket A/C conversions available.
They even made swamp cooolers! Is the Ford symbol stamped
or molded in?

I saw an aftermarket system in a truck when I pulled mine
at pick-n-pull. It caught my eye as it had vents on each
side of the steering column, all nicely molded to fit the
dash contours. Someone had destroyed it pulling the column
out, so I really didn't get a good look at it.

You might want to take yours to an A/C shop or two, see if
somebody recognizes it. What sort of questions do you have,
anyway?
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