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61-79-list-digest Saturday, April 17 1999 Volume 03 : Number 130 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - 50 wt Oil FTE 61-79 - Tranny... Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification RE: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration and steering noise FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines Re: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s FTE 61-79 - Calculations FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING CONVERSION Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower FTE 61-79 - unibody production #s??? FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events? Re: FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events? Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Re: FTE 61-79 - Calculations RE: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower FTE 61-79 - workin in the snow FTE 61-79 - 64 f100 223 6 cyc engine paint color? Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration, clutch chatter and front spring height FTE 61-79 - 460 valley pan, gasket or not gasket? FTE 61-79 - Re: 352 heads Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s FTE 61-79 - Help in the Northwest FTE 61-79 - PINION SEAL ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:17:53 -0500 From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger) Subject: FTE 61-79 - 50 wt Oil > > I was also wanting to know where to get that 50 weight oil for the tranny. I sent a reply to one of them but never seen it return to me, so must not have went out. I use Mobiltrans SHC50 in my NP435 and Dana 24 transfer case. I also use Mobilube 75-90 EP gear oil in my drives. Both are synthetic. The SHC50 is made for Eatons and Roadrangers, but is indicated for any application that calls for a high quality non EP gear oil. (or engine oil) I got mine from the fleet service shop of the company I used to work for (they closed the place) but I'd say any place that services over the road trucks would have it. The difference, especially in cool weather is nothing short of amazing. It performs on a 30 degree day at start-up like on a 90 degree day that you've driven around some. It took alot of strain off the geartrain under anything but fully warmed up on a warm day conditions, and I wouldn't be surprised if didn't help that too. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:48:40 -0400 From: Rob Long Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tranny... Is the transmition stamped anywhere that tells what kind it is? Rob 1978 F-250, 400M == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:56:08 EDT From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification In a message dated 4/16/99 7:53:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rob_long bigfoot.com writes: > Is the transmition stamped anywhere that tells what kind it is? > Rob: Kinda---maybe but not exactly. You have to tell us a little more about what you have in your truck before anyone can give you advice on how to I.D. it. Each can be identified by some tell tale signs. Re-post more info please. Stock Man (a/k/a Thom B.) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:00:34 -0400 From: TracyJones cinergy.com Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s > ---------- > From: Bret Godfrey[SMTP:BretG nsutah.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 5:54 PM > To: '61-79-list' > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s > > Hello everybody, > > I was wondering if any of you knew of a block decoder avaliable. I > have a 460 engine but I don't know what year or what vehicle it was in > originaly. the number reads D1VE 6015-A2E. I am not positve about the > E on the end it is down behind the starter and very hard to read. Any > help would be greatly appreciated. > > BG w/77'f-250 4x4 - 460 > More important is the casting number on the heads. Got that number? Tracy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:20:25 -0400 From: Rob Long Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification Stock Man: What kind of info do you need? I just bought this truck last weekend.... It's a 1978 F-250, 400M, 4-speed tranny, 2bl.... There isn't much more I know about what it consists of. Rob == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:35:38 EDT From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification In a message dated 4/16/99 8:29:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rob_long bigfoot.com writes: > > What kind of info do you need? I just bought this truck last > weekend.... It's a 1978 F-250, 400M, 4-speed tranny, 2bl.... There isn't > much more I know about what it consists of. > Rob: You will likely either have a new process or a borg warner tranny in there. If you look on the side of the tranny there may be an aluminum id tag attached to one of the power take off cover bolts. I also have a scan of the top covers to these two trannies on my page. They are different and easily discerned. Go to this URL http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/Trans-Types.html or if you prefer: Transmissions I hope this helps. Stock Man (a/k/a Thom B.) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:14:01 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s >Also, I hope you do not think you have a 460 just because the block has 460 >cast on it, the 429's used the same casting, yes, the one that says 460. If >you do not have the little tag under the coil, or the decal on the valve >cover, then there really is only one way to verify it is a 460 and that is >look at the casting number on the crank, the 460 will have a Y in it and the >429 will have a U. However, if you have either the tag or decal all of the >information you requested can be gotten from the numbers located there. > The FE series is similar in this respect, but don't the 429 and 460's have different strokes ? Looks like the 429 is just over 3.5 inches (3.59), while the 460 is over 3.8 (3.85), that's a quarter inch (or so) of difference, the old dowel in the spark plug hole trick should work for this one shouldn't it ? Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark, the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just to see for sure which one you've got... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:14:44 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration and steering noise At 09:39 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote: >Well, with the snow almost all gone I crawled under my truck to change the Must be nice, it just came back here today, and I have 2 motors, neither in the truck! Had to drive my g.f.'s 4cyl .... can you say pooch ? Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: draco pacifier.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines Serian wrote: > It worked quite well when I swaaped a 1-hose modulator into it... Well, that's the main thing. As long as I know this will work I can start messing with the adjustment. BTW, I drove it yesterday and it still does not downshift. I am thinking the PO may have tried to adjust the modulator when he didn't have any vacuum down there. wish wrote: > Hmmm...interesting, mine were both out of the same tree at the > back of the manifold. Can't be right. Why have two hoses if they come from the same source? On mine, one of the lines came up from the trans and had a bend toward the drivers side and the other bent toward the passenger side. Is yours like this? > Mine doesn't downshift willingly, but it will if I poke it, I > think its a matter of adjusting the kick down rod ... I suspect that once my kickdown rod is hooked up and adjusted, it will behave like this too. Once on the Supercab, while I was trying to understand what does what, I disconnected the kickdown rod and the truck still downshifted so I assumed the modulator takes care of low or part throttle downshifting and the kickdown rod is there for full throttle since you have low vacuum. Does this sound correct? For some reason the kickdown rod is too short or is not shaped right to connect to the Edelbrock linkage. I didn't have this problem on the Supercab. I have it tied up all the way forward with some bailing wire until I can get it sorted out. Sure is nice to be driving the truck after all this time. The steering is awful though. I am negotiating with the SWMBO for spending the money on the integral steering conversion sooner than I had planned. Like right now. Mark in Southwest Washington www.pacifier.com/~draco - -- '74 F-100 4X4 '74 F-250 Supercab == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:25:59 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page At 07:43 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote: >Hey all, > >I made a web page. Take a look. Let me know how I can make it better. Have >something to add? > Looks good. Lots of good info there... nice pics too :) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:17 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s Thanks for your message at 08:14 AM 4/16/99 -0500, William S Hart. Your message was: > >Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static >reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark, >the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if >you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just >to see for sure which one you've got... > Video camera time again...I can't wait to see you do this with a running engine...(FTE Bloopers video?) Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:50 -0700 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Calculations Here's the URL to a page full of online calculators for comp. ratio, HP to comp. ratio change, RPM-MPH, etc. Thought some of you might find it useful. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bestintexas.com/cars/calculate/index.html "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:51:25 -0700 From: TIGE HARMON Subject: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING CONVERSION I HAVE A 74 F-250 4X4 WITHOUT P/S. I DON'T WANT TO USE THE STOCK POWER RAM DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SWAP USING A P/S GEARBOX AND A PUMP. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT! THANKS! TIGE HARMON THARMON OPEN.ORG == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:52:40 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s >>Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static >>reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark, >>the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if >>you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just >>to see for sure which one you've got... >> > Video camera time again...I can't wait to see you do this with a running >engine...(FTE Bloopers video?) Doh!, sorry, guess my sentence structure wasn't very good on that one. I didn't mean to do it while the engine was running ... though you're right it would make a hilarious video, watchin some poor sap try and hold the dowel on the piston while its flyin up and down at 500+rpm.... what I meant was that if you weren't tearin down the engne cause it was still running fine you could do this. Most easily done with the motor turned off I'm sure ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:15:08 PDT From: "MARTY COLMAN" Subject: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use I have a 73 F100 390 2wd that I'm planning to add power steering to soon. I've found a 79 donor for the gear box and column, but it has no pump. I've seen two styles of pumps in the 70's pickups: 1) older style - metal case with a small fill tube with a metal dipstick. 2) newer style - aluminum housing with plastic case and large fill tube and plastic dipstick. I like the looks of the newer style but will it work for my 390? Is there more of an advantage of one over the other? A friend has a newer style one that he will give me, so it will save me some $ to go with this one. But I want it to be right and dependable. I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks Marty _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:11:27 -0700 From: "sam weatherby" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use Assuming you can hook the lines up, go for the newer pump... They hare so much easier to fill and are legened has it put out more pressure at low rpm's. -srw Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com '70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang '93 F-150 XLT Lightning '65 F100 - ----- Original Message ----- From: MARTY COLMAN To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use > > I have a 73 F100 390 2wd that I'm planning to add power steering to > soon. I've found a 79 donor for the gear box and column, but it has > no pump. > > I've seen two styles of pumps in the 70's pickups: 1) older style - > metal case with a small fill tube with a metal dipstick. 2) newer > style - aluminum housing with plastic case and large fill tube and > plastic dipstick. > > I like the looks of the newer style but will it work for my 390? Is > there more of an advantage of one over the other? A friend has a > newer style one that he will give me, so it will save me some $ to go > with this one. But I want it to be right and dependable. > > I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks > > Marty > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:29:18 EDT From: MongoCaver aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part I'm looking for the large duct that supplies the registers in the center of the dash. It is about 1 foot long and has different size ends, 2 1/4x6 1/8 and aprox. 4 x 4. Mine disintergrated from age and so did the 2 in my spare parts trucks. I have tried recovering the wire frame that was left, but getting the spacing and angles just right have proved impossible. Any ideas? Thanks, James == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:42:21 -0400 (EDT) From: FORDVAN4x4 webtv.net (Philip MacLaren) Subject: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Hi! New to the list. I have a 76 F250 with big block factory? dual exhaust and 600 Holley. My Chilton manual says horsepower and torgue are n/a. Does anybody know what they are? I am especially interested at max torque rpm's. Has anyone put duallys on a fleetside. If so when you where done did it look "dumb" Thanks in advance. Philip MacLaren Father Ford Owner Fabulous Fabricator == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:46:13 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part At 11:29 AM 4/16/99 , you wrote: >I'm looking for the large duct that supplies the registers in the center of >the dash. It is about 1 foot long and has different size ends, 2 1/4x6 1/8 >and aprox. 4 x 4. Mine disintergrated from age and so did the 2 in my spare >parts trucks. I have tried recovering the wire frame that was left, but >getting the spacing and angles just right have proved impossible. Any ideas? You might try Vintage Air, they may have a reproduction piece ? AutoKrafters is also another good spot to check....failing either of these ...Hemmings.... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use Marty writes: > > I have a 73 F100 390 2wd that I'm planning to add power steering to > soon. I've found a 79 donor for the gear box and column, but it has > no pump. > > I've seen two styles of pumps in the 70's pickups: 1) older style - > metal case with a small fill tube with a metal dipstick. The "Round" pump. > 2) newer > style - aluminum housing with plastic case and large fill tube and > plastic dipstick. The "Ham can" pump. > > I like the looks of the newer style but will it work for my 390? Is > there more of an advantage of one over the other? A friend has a > newer style one that he will give me, so it will save me some $ to go > with this one. But I want it to be right and dependable. > My first concern would be for brackets and pulleys - Can you get brackets to mount the ham can on an FE (390)? If so, then factory shop manuals can probably answer the question of which puts out more pressure. - -- Pat Brown Ahhhhh. Mid 80s in Sebastopol, California :-) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:26:29 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower > Hi! New to the list. I have a 76 F250 with big block factory? Big block as in FE ? (360? 390?) or Big block as in 429/460 ? I'm guessing 4x2 since you have duals ? These might help ... I don't know the numbers off hand, seems like 200 hp or so for the FE series, dunno about torque (does lots down low count ?) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: FORDVAN4x4 webtv.net (Philip MacLaren) Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower - --WebTV-Mail-430395167-1392 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit It has a 460. I don't have duals but I am thinking of putting them on rather then putting in a locker. I had to back up a steep incline in loose dirt/gravel no way, had to get a running start. It is 2 wheel drive. The heavy cap helps but not enough. Philip MacLaren Father Ford Owner Fabulous Fabricator - --WebTV-Mail-430395167-1392 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by postoffice-281.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id LAA04978; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id OAA09343; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.iastate.edu (mailhub.iastate.edu [129.186.1.102]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id OAA09313; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger3 (ranger3.cc.iastate.edu [129.186.158.22]) by mailhub.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15388 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:26:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: wish pop-3.iastate.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:26:29 -0500 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Hi! New to the list. I have a 76 F250 with big block factory? Big block as in FE ? (360? 390?) or Big block as in 429/460 ? I'm guessing 4x2 since you have duals ? These might help ... I don't know the numbers off hand, seems like 200 hp or so for the FE series, dunno about torque (does lots down low count ?) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html - --WebTV-Mail-430395167-1392-- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:48:43 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower > It has a 460. I don't have duals but I am thinking of putting them on >rather then putting in a locker. One is good for adding power, the other's good for putting it down, they probably lead right to each other in the end ... I had to back up a steep incline in >loose dirt/gravel no way, had to get a running start. It is 2 wheel >drive. The heavy cap helps but not enough. > I don't get this part ... you didn't have enough power ? backing up it will actually take the load off the drive wheels and make it harder if it is a traction problem .... If you don't have enough power with the 460 in stock mode you might want to check and be sure its been tuned up and is running right ... never known a 460 that couldn't haul itself up a hill ... 'course it depends what part of the country you're in too ... I'd check the plugs and the carb, the timing, plug a vacuum gauge in and see if you've got any ... basic stuff ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:37:32 -0400 (EDT) From: FORDVAN4x4 webtv.net (Philip MacLaren) Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower - --WebTV-Mail-918295017-1487 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Loose dirt/gravel-steep-backward I'm thinking of duallies instead of a locker-----These where all tips!!! Of course its a traction problem!!!! Can someone else please answer my posts or did I sign up to the wrong list? Philip MacLaren Father Ford Owner Fabulous Fabricator - --WebTV-Mail-918295017-1487 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by postoffice-283.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by mailsorter-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id LAA06626; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id OAA14314; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.iastate.edu (mailhub.iastate.edu [129.186.1.102]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id OAA14296; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger3 (ranger3.cc.iastate.edu [129.186.158.22]) by mailhub.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26598 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:48:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: wish pop-3.iastate.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:48:43 -0500 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > It has a 460. I don't have duals but I am thinking of putting them on >rather then putting in a locker. One is good for adding power, the other's good for putting it down, they probably lead right to each other in the end ... I had to back up a steep incline in >loose dirt/gravel no way, had to get a running start. It is 2 wheel >drive. The heavy cap helps but not enough. > I don't get this part ... you didn't have enough power ? backing up it will actually take the load off the drive wheels and make it harder if it is a traction problem .... If you don't have enough power with the 460 in stock mode you might want to check and be sure its been tuned up and is running right ... never known a 460 that couldn't haul itself up a hill ... 'course it depends what part of the country you're in too ... I'd check the plugs and the carb, the timing, plug a vacuum gauge in and see if you've got any ... basic stuff ... Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html - --WebTV-Mail-918295017-1487-- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:47:42 EDT From: Deeman81 aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - unibody production #s??? unibody production #s??? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:28:20 -0500 From: Jeremy Stiffler Subject: FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events? Hello. Does anyone know of any good events in Texas this summer that I should look into going to? I'm just interested in browsing, looking, and shopping. I'm afraid that going to Tennessee is out of the question for now. Thanks, Jeremy L. S. 1973 F-100 Ranger XLT "The Green Bandit" 360CI, V8, 2WD, Two-Tone Green == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:05:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jesus Cardoso Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events? Jeremy, Try doing a search on Hemmings Motor News Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hemmings.com/hemmings/htm/events/index.cfm In the past I have been able to find events even in my neck of the woods. chuy 63 F100 Flareside On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Jeremy Stiffler wrote: > Hello. Does anyone know of any good events in Texas this summer that I > should look into going to? I'm just interested in browsing, looking, and > shopping. I'm afraid that going to Tennessee is out of the question for > now. > > Thanks, > > Jeremy L. S. > 1973 F-100 Ranger XLT "The Green Bandit" > 360CI, V8, 2WD, Two-Tone Green > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > |-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^| Jesus Cardoso, a.k.a. Chuy Graduate Research Assistant Power System Automation Lab Department of Electrical Engineering Texas A&M University, College Station, TX 77843-3128 w: 409.845.4623, fax: 409.845.6259, h: 409.775.0737 e-mail: cardoso tamu.edu, jesus_cardoso email.com url: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ee.tamu.edu/~cardoso |-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^| == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Phillip ranted: > Loose dirt/gravel-steep-backward I'm thinking of duallies instead of a > locker-----These where all tips!!! Of course its a traction problem!!!! > Can someone else please answer my posts or did I sign up to the wrong > list? Easy Phillip, maybe you were expecting a too much too soon. This is a mailing list, your post may not be read by everyone here for a day or more. And, when you said "Duals" you threw me (and Bill) for a loop as we both immediately thought "Dual exhast or locker? What is this guy asking? I think the locker would help the most first, if that doesn't get you up your driveway backwards then try the duallies. Of course, I'm not an off-roadie, nor is this an off-road list, so that is only my opinion. - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:39:16 -0800 From: "Terry Pendergrass" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Calculations That has just about every kind of converter you can think of. Thanks alot. If the rest didn't look at that page you should. Terry '65 F100 - -- On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:50 Bill Beyer wrote: >Here's the URL to a page full of online calculators for comp. ratio, HP to >comp. ratio change, RPM-MPH, etc. Thought some of you might find it useful. > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bestintexas.com/cars/calculate/index.html > >"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.zdnetmail.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:05:56 -0700 From: "Brandt, Chris" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Based on a previous life, (growing up on a farm, 30 miles of gravel to nearest oiled road...). Dual rear wheels are worse on gravel than singles. And lets not even talk about duals in mud.... CB > -----Original Message----- > From:Pat Brown [SMTP:patb sonic.net] > Sent:Friday, April 16, 1999 10:37 PM > To:61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject:Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower > > Phillip ranted: > > Loose dirt/gravel-steep-backward I'm thinking of duallies instead of a > > locker-----These where all tips!!! Of course its a traction problem!!!! > > Can someone else please answer my posts or did I sign up to the wrong > > list? > > Easy Phillip, maybe you were expecting a too much too soon. This is > a mailing list, your post may not be read by everyone here for a > day or more. And, when you said "Duals" you threw me (and Bill) for > a loop as we both immediately thought "Dual exhast or locker? What > is this guy asking? > > I think the locker would help the most first, if that doesn't get > you up your driveway backwards then try the duallies. Of course, > I'm not an off-roadie, nor is this an off-road list, so that is > only my opinion. > -- > Pat Brown > Sebastopol, California > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:46:39 -0600 From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)" Subject: FTE 61-79 - workin in the snow Just started snowing here again, I will never get to put my new rearend in!!!!! At 09:39 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote: >Well, with the snow almost all gone I crawled under my truck to change the Must be nice, it just came back here today, and I have 2 motors, neither in the truck! Had to drive my g.f.'s 4cyl .... can you say pooch ? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:19:19 -0600 From: "oxleygf msn.com" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 64 f100 223 6 cyc engine paint color? Posted a couple of days ago. No response, but I'll try again. What is the original color of the 223 engine block for a 64 f100? Surely someone can help me with that information, please. Thanks, Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:39:35 -0700 From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower Chris pointed out: > > Based on a previous life, (growing up on a farm, 30 miles of > gravel to nearest oiled road...). Dual rear wheels are worse > on gravel than singles. And lets not even talk about duals in > mud.... [lack of traction snipped] Makes sense to me. Skinney tires dig down a little deeper, fat ones (or duals) just decrease the lbs/square inch, decreasing traction. - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 18:45:55 -0700 From: Gene Gardner Subject: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration, clutch chatter and front spring height >I think I figured out what is causing my drivetrain vibration and it's >probably not my rear axle or diff. The driveshaft I picked up for the truck >is probably about 2 or 3 inches too short! Been there, done that -- yesterday, to be exact. My driveshaft (70 F100, manual 2WD ) was a couple inches too short, had the driveshaft lengthened and re-balanced. I can measure the new length later if you still need it. Slip yolk teeth were still OK, luckily. Also had some end-play in the pivot arm for the clutch adjusting rod (the part that moves the rod back and forth when you push the pedal). Those 2 corrections seemed to have eliminated about 85% of the clutch chatter problem I wrote about last year (see archives). The rest of the chatter -- mostly in reverse -- I'm going to attribute to the design of the clutch, the infamous 3-finger Chatterbox that Marko so aptly named. Get a diaphram-type clutch, my friends! I promised Azie I'd tell the list if I ever got rid of the chatter (after 2 new clutches, flywheel balanced/turned, pilot bearings, etc. etc.) -- so, even though I've only had one test drive, here's hoping I have slain the beast. Re front springs (I was the original poster), the new ones I just put on the front got rid of most of the highway sway and generally improved the ride; also sits level now. Clearance between spring return bumper and frame is now 3 inches on driver's side, 2 inches on passenger (still a little sag, but I really have to quit being so anal). Need to put real truck tires on next: Pat Brown once said that using radials from a car caused sway and squishiness. Aside from that, I think I'm finally ready for the road next month -- maybe I'll be able to say hello over coffee or a cold one to some of you folks on my way up from Old Mexico to Chicago ( to check out new teaching jobs stateside). Going from Arizona to Texas, then up through Missouri. Sorry to be so long-winded ... Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher Hermosillo, Mexico 70 F-100 (300 six, C-4?) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:19:26 -0400 From: Brent Cole Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 valley pan, gasket or not gasket? Has anyone installed a Fel-pro valley pan intake (gasket?) on a 460 before? Does my regular gaskets go on top, under, or not needed with this thing? With my engine kit I received the standard looking intake gaskets, the two rubber molded ends and a valley pan. The valley pan and ends came in a seperate box than the regular gaskets. The pan as two metal "gaskets" with the pan tab sandwitched between. The two metal "gaskets" are rivited to the pan tabs. Should I cut the rivits out? There were no instructions with this thing and the tech help line is not open until Monday. It would be great to get this thing together this weekend. Thanks for any advice. Brent == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:40:25 EDT From: NUTCH11 aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 352 heads hi this might be obvious but ,,, 352 and most 390's used smaller valves (exhaust were very small) you might be better with bigger valves than the higher compresion you might get from 352 heads. nutch == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:03:59 EDT From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s In a message dated 4/16/99 6:17:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wish iastate.edu writes: different strokes ? Looks like the 429 is just over 3.5 inches (3.59), while the 460 is over 3.8 (3.85), that's a quarter inch (or so) of difference, the old dowel in the spark plug hole trick should work for this one shouldn't it ? Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark, the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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