61-79-list-digest Saturday, April 17 1999 Volume 03 : Number 130



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - 50 wt Oil
FTE 61-79 - Tranny...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification
RE: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification
Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration and steering noise
FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines
Re: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page
Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
FTE 61-79 - Calculations
FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING CONVERSION
Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use
Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use
FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part
FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part
Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
FTE 61-79 - unibody production #s???
FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
Re: FTE 61-79 - Calculations
RE: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
FTE 61-79 - workin in the snow
FTE 61-79 - 64 f100 223 6 cyc engine paint color?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration, clutch chatter and front spring height
FTE 61-79 - 460 valley pan, gasket or not gasket?
FTE 61-79 - Re: 352 heads
Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
FTE 61-79 - Help in the Northwest
FTE 61-79 - PINION SEAL

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:17:53 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 50 wt Oil

>
> I was also wanting to know where to get that 50 weight oil for the tranny. I sent a reply to one of them but never seen it return to me, so must not have went out.

I use Mobiltrans SHC50 in my NP435 and Dana 24 transfer case. I also
use Mobilube 75-90 EP gear oil in my drives. Both are synthetic. The
SHC50 is made for Eatons and Roadrangers, but is indicated for any
application that calls for a high quality non EP gear oil. (or engine
oil) I got mine from the fleet service shop of the company I used to
work for (they closed the place) but I'd say any place that services
over the road trucks would have it.

The difference, especially in cool weather is nothing short of amazing.
It performs on a 30 degree day at start-up like on a 90 degree day that
you've driven around some. It took alot of strain off the geartrain
under anything but fully warmed up on a warm day conditions, and I
wouldn't be surprised if didn't help that too.
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:48:40 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tranny...

Is the transmition stamped anywhere that tells what kind it is?

Rob
1978 F-250, 400M






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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:56:08 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification

In a message dated 4/16/99 7:53:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rob_long bigfoot.com writes:

> Is the transmition stamped anywhere that tells what kind it is?
>
Rob:
Kinda---maybe but not exactly. You have to tell us a little more
about what you have in your truck before anyone can give you advice on how to
I.D. it. Each can be identified by some tell tale signs. Re-post more info
please.

Stock Man
(a/k/a Thom B.)
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:00:34 -0400
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

> ----------
> From: Bret Godfrey[SMTP:BretG nsutah.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 5:54 PM
> To: '61-79-list'
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I was wondering if any of you knew of a block decoder avaliable. I
> have a 460 engine but I don't know what year or what vehicle it was in
> originaly. the number reads D1VE 6015-A2E. I am not positve about the
> E on the end it is down behind the starter and very hard to read. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> BG w/77'f-250 4x4 - 460
>
More important is the casting number on the heads. Got that number?

Tracy

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:20:25 -0400
From: Rob Long
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification

Stock Man:

What kind of info do you need? I just bought this truck last
weekend.... It's a 1978 F-250, 400M, 4-speed tranny, 2bl.... There isn't
much more I know about what it consists of.

Rob



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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:35:38 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny identification

In a message dated 4/16/99 8:29:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rob_long bigfoot.com writes:

>
> What kind of info do you need? I just bought this truck last
> weekend.... It's a 1978 F-250, 400M, 4-speed tranny, 2bl.... There isn't
> much more I know about what it consists of.
>
Rob:

You will likely either have a new process or a borg warner tranny in
there. If you look on the side of the tranny there may be an aluminum id tag
attached to one of the power take off cover bolts. I also have a scan of the
top covers to these two trannies on my page. They are different and easily
discerned. Go to this URL
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/Trans-Types.html
or if you prefer:
Transmissions


I hope this helps.

Stock Man
(a/k/a Thom B.)
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:14:01 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

>Also, I hope you do not think you have a 460 just because the block has 460
>cast on it, the 429's used the same casting, yes, the one that says 460. If
>you do not have the little tag under the coil, or the decal on the valve
>cover, then there really is only one way to verify it is a 460 and that is
>look at the casting number on the crank, the 460 will have a Y in it and the
>429 will have a U. However, if you have either the tag or decal all of the
>information you requested can be gotten from the numbers located there.
>
The FE series is similar in this respect, but don't the 429 and 460's have
different strokes ? Looks like the 429 is just over 3.5 inches (3.59),
while the 460 is over 3.8 (3.85), that's a quarter inch (or so) of
difference, the old dowel in the spark plug hole trick should work for this
one shouldn't it ?

Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static
reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark,
the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if
you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just
to see for sure which one you've got...




Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:14:44 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration and steering noise

At 09:39 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote:
>Well, with the snow almost all gone I crawled under my truck to change the


Must be nice, it just came back here today, and I have 2 motors, neither in
the truck! Had to drive my g.f.'s 4cyl .... can you say pooch ?



Just my 2cents

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:56:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines

Serian wrote:
> It worked quite well when I swaaped a 1-hose modulator into it...

Well, that's the main thing. As long as I know this will work I
can start messing with the adjustment. BTW, I drove it yesterday
and it still does not downshift. I am thinking the PO may have
tried to adjust the modulator when he didn't have any vacuum down
there.

wish wrote:
> Hmmm...interesting, mine were both out of the same tree at the
> back of the manifold.

Can't be right. Why have two hoses if they come from the same
source? On mine, one of the lines came up from the trans and had
a bend toward the drivers side and the other bent toward the
passenger side. Is yours like this?

> Mine doesn't downshift willingly, but it will if I poke it, I
> think its a matter of adjusting the kick down rod ...

I suspect that once my kickdown rod is hooked up and adjusted,
it will behave like this too. Once on the Supercab, while I was
trying to understand what does what, I disconnected the kickdown
rod and the truck still downshifted so I assumed the modulator
takes care of low or part throttle downshifting and the kickdown
rod is there for full throttle since you have low vacuum. Does
this sound correct?

For some reason the kickdown rod is too short or is not shaped
right to connect to the Edelbrock linkage. I didn't have this
problem on the Supercab. I have it tied up all the way forward
with some bailing wire until I can get it sorted out.

Sure is nice to be driving the truck after all this time. The
steering is awful though. I am negotiating with the SWMBO for
spending the money on the integral steering conversion sooner
than I had planned. Like right now.

Mark in Southwest Washington
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:25:59 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page

At 07:43 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>I made a web page. Take a look. Let me know how I can make it better. Have
>something to add?
>

Looks good. Lots of good info there... nice pics too :)


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:17 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

Thanks for your message at 08:14 AM 4/16/99 -0500, William S Hart. Your
message was:
>
>Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static
>reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark,
>the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if
>you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just
>to see for sure which one you've got...
>
Video camera time again...I can't wait to see you do this with a running
engine...(FTE Bloopers video?)
Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:50 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Calculations

Here's the URL to a page full of online calculators for comp. ratio, HP to
comp. ratio change, RPM-MPH, etc. Thought some of you might find it useful.

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:51:25 -0700
From: TIGE HARMON
Subject: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING CONVERSION

I HAVE A 74 F-250 4X4 WITHOUT P/S. I DON'T WANT TO USE THE
STOCK POWER RAM DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SWAP USING A P/S
GEARBOX AND A PUMP. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT! THANKS!
TIGE HARMON
THARMON OPEN.ORG
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:52:40 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

>>Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static
>>reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark,
>>the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if
>>you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just
>>to see for sure which one you've got...
>>
> Video camera time again...I can't wait to see you do this with a running
>engine...(FTE Bloopers video?)


Doh!, sorry, guess my sentence structure wasn't very good on that one. I
didn't mean to do it while the engine was running ... though you're right
it would make a hilarious video, watchin some poor sap try and hold the
dowel on the piston while its flyin up and down at 500+rpm....


what I meant was that if you weren't tearin down the engne cause it was
still running fine you could do this. Most easily done with the motor
turned off I'm sure ...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:15:08 PDT
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use

I have a 73 F100 390 2wd that I'm planning to add power steering to
soon. I've found a 79 donor for the gear box and column, but it has
no pump.

I've seen two styles of pumps in the 70's pickups: 1) older style -
metal case with a small fill tube with a metal dipstick. 2) newer
style - aluminum housing with plastic case and large fill tube and
plastic dipstick.

I like the looks of the newer style but will it work for my 390? Is
there more of an advantage of one over the other? A friend has a
newer style one that he will give me, so it will save me some $ to go
with this one. But I want it to be right and dependable.

I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks

Marty

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:11:27 -0700
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use

Assuming you can hook the lines up, go for the newer pump...
They hare so much easier to fill and are legened has it put out more
pressure at low rpm's.
-srw

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>
> I have a 73 F100 390 2wd that I'm planning to add power steering to
> soon. I've found a 79 donor for the gear box and column, but it has
> no pump.
>
> I've seen two styles of pumps in the 70's pickups: 1) older style -
> metal case with a small fill tube with a metal dipstick. 2) newer
> style - aluminum housing with plastic case and large fill tube and
> plastic dipstick.
>
> I like the looks of the newer style but will it work for my 390? Is
> there more of an advantage of one over the other? A friend has a
> newer style one that he will give me, so it will save me some $ to go
> with this one. But I want it to be right and dependable.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks
>
> Marty
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:29:18 EDT
From: MongoCaver aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part

I'm looking for the large duct that supplies the registers in the center of
the dash. It is about 1 foot long and has different size ends, 2 1/4x6 1/8
and aprox. 4 x 4. Mine disintergrated from age and so did the 2 in my spare
parts trucks. I have tried recovering the wire frame that was left, but
getting the spacing and angles just right have proved impossible. Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:42:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: FORDVAN4x4 webtv.net (Philip MacLaren)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

Hi! New to the list. I have a 76 F250 with big block factory? dual
exhaust and 600 Holley. My Chilton manual says horsepower and torgue are
n/a. Does anybody know what they are? I am especially interested at max
torque rpm's. Has anyone put duallys on a fleetside. If so when you
where done did it look "dumb" Thanks in advance.

Philip MacLaren
Father
Ford Owner
Fabulous
Fabricator

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:46:13 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1978 ac/heater part

At 11:29 AM 4/16/99 , you wrote:
>I'm looking for the large duct that supplies the registers in the center of
>the dash. It is about 1 foot long and has different size ends, 2 1/4x6 1/8
>and aprox. 4 x 4. Mine disintergrated from age and so did the 2 in my spare
>parts trucks. I have tried recovering the wire frame that was left, but
>getting the spacing and angles just right have proved impossible. Any ideas?


You might try Vintage Air, they may have a reproduction piece ?
AutoKrafters is also another good spot to check....failing either of these
...Hemmings....


Just my 2cents

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - which ps pump should I use

Marty writes:
>
> I have a 73 F100 390 2wd that I'm planning to add power steering to
> soon. I've found a 79 donor for the gear box and column, but it has
> no pump.
>
> I've seen two styles of pumps in the 70's pickups: 1) older style -
> metal case with a small fill tube with a metal dipstick.

The "Round" pump.

> 2) newer
> style - aluminum housing with plastic case and large fill tube and
> plastic dipstick.

The "Ham can" pump.

>
> I like the looks of the newer style but will it work for my 390? Is
> there more of an advantage of one over the other? A friend has a
> newer style one that he will give me, so it will save me some $ to go
> with this one. But I want it to be right and dependable.
>

My first concern would be for brackets and pulleys - Can you get
brackets to mount the ham can on an FE (390)? If so, then factory
shop manuals can probably answer the question of which puts out
more pressure.
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:26:29 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

> Hi! New to the list. I have a 76 F250 with big block factory?

Big block as in FE ? (360? 390?) or Big block as in 429/460 ? I'm
guessing 4x2 since you have duals ? These might help ... I don't know the
numbers off hand, seems like 200 hp or so for the FE series, dunno about
torque (does lots down low count ?)



Just my 2cents

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:41:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: FORDVAN4x4 webtv.net (Philip MacLaren)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

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It has a 460. I don't have duals but I am thinking of putting them on
rather then putting in a locker. I had to back up a steep incline in
loose dirt/gravel no way, had to get a running start. It is 2 wheel
drive. The heavy cap helps but not enough.

Philip MacLaren
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> Hi! New to the list. I have a 76 F250 with big block factory?

Big block as in FE ? (360? 390?) or Big block as in 429/460 ? I'm
guessing 4x2 since you have duals ? These might help ... I don't know the
numbers off hand, seems like 200 hp or so for the FE series, dunno about
torque (does lots down low count ?)



Just my 2cents

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:48:43 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

> It has a 460. I don't have duals but I am thinking of putting them on
>rather then putting in a locker.

One is good for adding power, the other's good for putting it down, they
probably lead right to each other in the end ...


I had to back up a steep incline in
>loose dirt/gravel no way, had to get a running start. It is 2 wheel
>drive. The heavy cap helps but not enough.
>
I don't get this part ... you didn't have enough power ? backing up it
will actually take the load off the drive wheels and make it harder if it
is a traction problem ....


If you don't have enough power with the 460 in stock mode you might want to
check and be sure its been tuned up and is running right ... never known a
460 that couldn't haul itself up a hill ... 'course it depends what part of
the country you're in too ...

I'd check the plugs and the carb, the timing, plug a vacuum gauge in and
see if you've got any ... basic stuff ...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:37:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: FORDVAN4x4 webtv.net (Philip MacLaren)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

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Loose dirt/gravel-steep-backward I'm thinking of duallies instead of a
locker-----These where all tips!!! Of course its a traction problem!!!!
Can someone else please answer my posts or did I sign up to the wrong
list?

Philip MacLaren
Father
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> It has a 460. I don't have duals but I am thinking of putting them on
>rather then putting in a locker.

One is good for adding power, the other's good for putting it down, they
probably lead right to each other in the end ...


I had to back up a steep incline in
>loose dirt/gravel no way, had to get a running start. It is 2 wheel
>drive. The heavy cap helps but not enough.
>
I don't get this part ... you didn't have enough power ? backing up it
will actually take the load off the drive wheels and make it harder if it
is a traction problem ....


If you don't have enough power with the 460 in stock mode you might want to
check and be sure its been tuned up and is running right ... never known a
460 that couldn't haul itself up a hill ... 'course it depends what part of
the country you're in too ...

I'd check the plugs and the carb, the timing, plug a vacuum gauge in and
see if you've got any ... basic stuff ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:47:42 EDT
From: Deeman81 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - unibody production #s???

unibody production #s???
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:28:20 -0500
From: Jeremy Stiffler
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events?

Hello. Does anyone know of any good events in Texas this summer that I
should look into going to? I'm just interested in browsing, looking, and
shopping. I'm afraid that going to Tennessee is out of the question for
now.

Thanks,

Jeremy L. S.
1973 F-100 Ranger XLT "The Green Bandit"
360CI, V8, 2WD, Two-Tone Green

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:05:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jesus Cardoso
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Texas Shows/Events?

Jeremy,

Try doing a search on Hemmings Motor News Site:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hemmings.com/hemmings/htm/events/index.cfm

In the past I have been able to find events even in my neck of the
woods.

chuy
63 F100 Flareside


On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Jeremy Stiffler wrote:

> Hello. Does anyone know of any good events in Texas this summer that I
> should look into going to? I'm just interested in browsing, looking, and
> shopping. I'm afraid that going to Tennessee is out of the question for
> now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy L. S.
> 1973 F-100 Ranger XLT "The Green Bandit"
> 360CI, V8, 2WD, Two-Tone Green
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:36:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

Phillip ranted:
> Loose dirt/gravel-steep-backward I'm thinking of duallies instead of a
> locker-----These where all tips!!! Of course its a traction problem!!!!
> Can someone else please answer my posts or did I sign up to the wrong
> list?

Easy Phillip, maybe you were expecting a too much too soon. This is
a mailing list, your post may not be read by everyone here for a
day or more. And, when you said "Duals" you threw me (and Bill) for
a loop as we both immediately thought "Dual exhast or locker? What
is this guy asking?

I think the locker would help the most first, if that doesn't get
you up your driveway backwards then try the duallies. Of course,
I'm not an off-roadie, nor is this an off-road list, so that is
only my opinion.
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Sebastopol, California
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:39:16 -0800
From: "Terry Pendergrass"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Calculations

That has just about every kind of converter you can think of. Thanks alot. If the rest didn't look at that page you should.

Terry
'65 F100
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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:50 Bill Beyer wrote:
>Here's the URL to a page full of online calculators for comp. ratio, HP to
>comp. ratio change, RPM-MPH, etc. Thought some of you might find it useful.
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bestintexas.com/cars/calculate/index.html
>
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>
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:05:56 -0700
From: "Brandt, Chris"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

Based on a previous life, (growing up on a farm, 30 miles of gravel to
nearest oiled road...). Dual rear wheels are worse on gravel than singles.
And lets not even talk about duals in mud....

CB
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> From:Pat Brown [SMTP:patb sonic.net]
> Sent:Friday, April 16, 1999 10:37 PM
> To:61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower
>
> Phillip ranted:
> > Loose dirt/gravel-steep-backward I'm thinking of duallies instead of a
> > locker-----These where all tips!!! Of course its a traction problem!!!!
> > Can someone else please answer my posts or did I sign up to the wrong
> > list?
>
> Easy Phillip, maybe you were expecting a too much too soon. This is
> a mailing list, your post may not be read by everyone here for a
> day or more. And, when you said "Duals" you threw me (and Bill) for
> a loop as we both immediately thought "Dual exhast or locker? What
> is this guy asking?
>
> I think the locker would help the most first, if that doesn't get
> you up your driveway backwards then try the duallies. Of course,
> I'm not an off-roadie, nor is this an off-road list, so that is
> only my opinion.
> --
> Pat Brown
> Sebastopol, California
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:46:39 -0600
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - workin in the snow

Just started snowing here again, I will never get to put my new rearend
in!!!!!

At 09:39 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote:
>Well, with the snow almost all gone I crawled under my truck to change the


Must be nice, it just came back here today, and I have 2 motors, neither in
the truck! Had to drive my g.f.'s 4cyl .... can you say pooch ?



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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:19:19 -0600
From: "oxleygf msn.com"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 64 f100 223 6 cyc engine paint color?

Posted a couple of days ago. No response, but I'll try again. What is the
original color of the 223 engine block for a 64 f100?

Surely someone can help me with that information, please. Thanks, Bill



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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:39:35 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Horsepower

Chris pointed out:
>
> Based on a previous life, (growing up on a farm, 30 miles of
> gravel to nearest oiled road...). Dual rear wheels are worse
> on gravel than singles. And lets not even talk about duals in
> mud....

[lack of traction snipped]

Makes sense to me. Skinney tires dig down a little deeper, fat
ones (or duals) just decrease the lbs/square inch, decreasing
traction.
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Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 18:45:55 -0700
From: Gene Gardner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration, clutch chatter and front spring height

>I think I figured out what is causing my drivetrain vibration and it's
>probably not my rear axle or diff. The driveshaft I picked up for the truck
>is probably about 2 or 3 inches too short!

Been there, done that -- yesterday, to be exact. My driveshaft (70 F100,
manual 2WD ) was a couple inches too short, had the driveshaft lengthened
and re-balanced. I can measure the new length later if you still need it.
Slip yolk teeth were still OK, luckily. Also had some end-play in the pivot
arm for the clutch adjusting rod (the part that moves the rod back and
forth when you push the pedal). Those 2 corrections seemed to have
eliminated about 85% of the clutch chatter problem I wrote about last year
(see archives). The rest of the chatter -- mostly in reverse -- I'm going
to attribute to the design of the clutch, the infamous 3-finger Chatterbox
that Marko so aptly named. Get a diaphram-type clutch, my friends!

I promised Azie I'd tell the list if I ever got rid of the chatter (after 2
new clutches, flywheel balanced/turned, pilot bearings, etc. etc.) -- so,
even though I've only had one test drive, here's hoping I have slain the
beast. Re front springs (I was the original poster), the new ones I just
put on the front got rid of most of the highway sway and generally improved
the ride; also sits level now. Clearance between spring return bumper and
frame is now 3 inches on driver's side, 2 inches on passenger (still a
little sag, but I really have to quit being so anal). Need to put real
truck tires on next: Pat Brown once said that using radials from a car
caused sway and squishiness.

Aside from that, I think I'm finally ready for the road next month -- maybe
I'll be able to say hello over coffee or a cold one to some of you folks on
my way up from Old Mexico to Chicago ( to check out new teaching jobs
stateside). Going from Arizona to Texas, then up through Missouri. Sorry to
be so long-winded ...

Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher
Hermosillo, Mexico
70 F-100 (300 six, C-4?)



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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:19:26 -0400
From: Brent Cole
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 valley pan, gasket or not gasket?

Has anyone installed a Fel-pro valley pan intake (gasket?) on a 460 before?
Does my regular gaskets go on top, under, or not needed with this thing?
With my engine kit I received the standard looking intake gaskets, the two
rubber molded ends and a valley pan. The valley pan and ends came in a
seperate box than the regular gaskets. The pan as two metal "gaskets" with
the pan tab sandwitched between. The two metal "gaskets" are rivited to the
pan tabs. Should I cut the rivits out? There were no instructions with
this thing and the tech help line is not open until Monday. It would be
great to get this thing together this weekend. Thanks for any advice.

Brent

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:40:25 EDT
From: NUTCH11 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 352 heads

hi

this might be obvious but ,,, 352 and most 390's used smaller valves (exhaust
were very small) you might be better with bigger valves than the higher
compresion
you might get from 352 heads.

nutch
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:03:59 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

In a message dated 4/16/99 6:17:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wish iastate.edu
writes:


different strokes ? Looks like the 429 is just over 3.5 inches (3.59),
while the 460 is over 3.8 (3.85), that's a quarter inch (or so) of
difference, the old dowel in the spark plug hole trick should work for this
one shouldn't it ?

Use a dowel, with the piston at TDC make a mark at the head (or some static
reference point), then move to BDC (180 on crank) and make another mark,
the distance between them is the stroke of the motor ... this is handy if
you have a running engine and you don't want to tear the oil pan off just
....


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