61-79-list-digest Friday, April 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 129



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Breakfast?
RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
FTE 61-79 - Kickdown Adjustment
Re: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
re:FTE 61-79 - 2.75:1 9 inch rear gears
RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mercury Valve covers
FTE 61-79 - For Sale: '79 Sliding Rear Window
FTE 61-79 - Trade: My 351M for your 300HD six cylinder
Re: FTE 61-79 - For Sale: '79 Sliding Rear Window
FTE 61-79 - Re: Mark: Shorty Header Update?
FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines
FTE 61-79 - shift points on C6, overdrive?
FTE 61-79 - 64 ford f100
FTE 61-79 - Rear Ratio
Re: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines
FTE 61-79 - Valve covers FE
RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines
FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m
FTE 61-79 - 2.75:1 Gears
FTE 61-79 - Front Hubs and Drums
Re: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m
RE: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m
FTE 61-79 - RE: Clutch Rod Thing (and more)
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Clutch Rod Thing (and more)
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Clutch Rod Thing (and more)
FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH
Re: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH
FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s
Re: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH
Re: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH
Re: FTE 61-79 - For Sale: '79 Sliding Rear Window
FTE 61-79 - I made a web page
FTE 61-79 - Maryland List Members?
Re: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page
FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration and steering noise
Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:31:44 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Breakfast?

>
> Say CJ, when are coming out to the left coast to buy us breakfast?

Or Southeast Missouri, we have a restaurant here you'd like. You may
have heard of it, Lambert's Cafe. Home of Throwed Rolls. My son works
there. I promise to not order steak.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:03:20 -0400
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?

> ----------
> From: Miska, Richard L (Rick)[SMTP:MiskaRL louisville.stortek.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 8:02 PM
> To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
>
> I saw some bfg-at's that were 33x9.50. Get some late model ford 4x4
> wheels
> (the aluminum ones 1995 1996 1997 or so, with those tires, it would look
> pretty good, and the center caps cover the dana 60 axel.
>
Rick,
Late model 16" wheels will not clear the dual piston calipers of an
early ('79) Dana 44. I assume the same problem exists with the Dana 60
front axle.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John F. Bauer III [mailto:bauerjf ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:55 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
>
>
>
> I'm in the market for 35" or 36" diameter tires for my project 4wd van.
> To
> clear the calipers on the dana 60 front axle I believe I'm limited to
> 16.5"
> wheels. It would seem a 16.5"x8.25" 8 lug wheel with 35" BFG AT tires
snip
> John
>
John,
Just for a price reference; I saw a set of 16.5x8.25 aluminum slots
w/lugs, centers and 2 good 31" tires at the "All Ford Columbus Ohio Swap
Meet". The guy was asking $275 but one wheel had some slight damage so I
passed on 'em. Good luck finding 16.5" wheels, they are not very
plentiful.


Tracy
WANTED: 16.5" aluminum slots!!!!

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:41:13 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Kickdown Adjustment

> I have the 79 ford van with the 351w. It has the C-6 tranny. I was
> wondering if there is an overdrive I could install for this? Also I was
> wondering about what speed my tranny should shift while accelerating hard.
> If I floor it it will shift from 1st to second at exactly 45 mph, then Im
> not sure exactly when, because I have been having some fuel problems and I
> get scared and back off the gas but I have had it going in second gear at 75
> mph and when it din't look like it was going to switch to third I back off
> the gas a tad so it would change gears. I don't know what gear ratio the
> rear end is. its a 1 ton van by the way. I don't have a tach so I don't
> know what RPM I was running at. Anyone have any estimates on my RPM if I am
> going 45 in 1st? 30" tires too btw. What I would like to do is put a
> smaller rear end in my van, so it will accelerate faster? But want the
> overdrive so I don't kill my highway fuel economy. Thanks for the input.

If your part throttle shift points are OK, then the modulator is all
right. You'll want to look at your kickdown linkage. My experience on
stuff that's got a few years on it has been that when you get it kicking
down nice at part throttle it will overcenter and not shift right at
WOT. New bushings in the shaft helps, but alot of the slack comes from
the bell-crank on the tranny itself. There's not much you can do about
it without tearing it down, you'd have to rebush it. I usually end up
with a compromise, adjusting it a turn at a time each way until it just
shifts right at WOT, then you just have to kick it a little harder at
part throttle to get it to tip down to 2nd. If you prefer to have a
tighter part throttle response then adjust it for that and back off the
the throttle to get it to shift at WOT. But don't go overboard here as
you can burn up a transmission if your kickdown is way too tight, or
hung up.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:50:02 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?

In a message dated 4/15/99 5:05:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
TracyJones cinergy.com writes:


early ('79) Dana 44. I assume the same problem exists with the Dana 60
front axle. >>

With a lil grinding, anything will work, so long as you know what your doing.
My dads 75 F250 has front and rear Dana 60s, and hes runnin 38.5 Gumbo
Mudders on 15 inch rims. This combo has been run safely now for going on 15
years. Reason hes usin the 15 is tire selection was nil for a 16 in the
early 80s, and 16.5s just suck for wheelin with aired down tires. Heck they
suck at full pressure! Oh well thats what big wallets and custom rims with
bead locks are for.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:06:57 -0500
From: Don Yerhot
Subject: re:FTE 61-79 - 2.75:1 9 inch rear gears

I've got a 31 spline pumpkin out of a 82 F150, 2.47 ratio, open pinion.
Believe it or not, this truck also had an overdrive in it, at 70 mph in
OD, it was only turning 1400 rpm's. Only used it going down hill or with
a stiff tail wind. The truck did average around 18mpg's however. If
anybody want's it, I'll ship it out COD for $50.00.

DonY
65F250-351W-435NP
74F100-351W-3On the Tree



9inch
rear ends. Does anyone know of a source for these parts. Mine has
3.00:1
and I would like to go to a lower numerical gearset with the wide ratio
gears in my C-6. However all of the gear vendors I have contacted don't

have anything lower than 3.00. Does Ford still carry it? Do I have to
try
a "parts ressurector"? My mileage is currently 11-12 mpg and I would
like
to try for better. I figure if I have to go with a used gearset I can
try
to get the whole pumpkin and then if it doesn't work well then I can
just
swap my old 3.00 back in.

Tom H>>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:40:51 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?

At 07:02 PM 4/14/99 , you wrote:
>I saw some bfg-at's that were 33x9.50. Get some late model ford 4x4 wheels
>(the aluminum ones 1995 1996 1997 or so, with those tires, it would look
>pretty good, and the center caps cover the dana 60 axel.
>
Watch the changeover years though, sometime in there didn't they swap over
to a 7bolt rim on the 3/4 and 1 tons ?



Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:14:13 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mercury Valve covers

At 07:35 PM 14/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
>The one I'm looking for are the stock appearing cover but instead of Powered
>by Ford it says Mercury.
>
>Azie-the ones you have, are they the tall aluminum ones?
>
>-Ted
>----- Original Message -----

I also have a set (well, my friend Randy does at his farm in Aldergrove, BC).

marko

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:12:11 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - For Sale: '79 Sliding Rear Window

Hey Guys

I've got an extra sliding rear window in my garage taking up space
and dont have an immediate use for it. The glass is all perfect and the
gasket is like brand new. It could stand some new channel lining I suppose
if you're looking for perfection. If not, you can install it in there when
ya get it and cruise around happy with your new found ventilation.

If anybody is interested, drop me some mail and make me an offer.


Thanks
Dale Frenz
frenz.6 osu.edu



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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:12:12 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Trade: My 351M for your 300HD six cylinder

Im in OHIO for starters.

I have a 351M I'd like to trade for a 300 6 banger. Anybody interested,
drop me a line.

Dale Frenz
frenz.6 osu.edu


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:22:36 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Long"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - For Sale: '79 Sliding Rear Window

I'll give ya $10.00 for the window


Rob Long

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:38:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Mark: Shorty Header Update?

CJ wrote:
> Hey Mark,
> I saw your troubles with those Sanderson shorties....how did the rest
> of the installation go????

Oh, I wouldn't call them troubles. I was just pointing out a few hoops
I had to jump through. I'd say it was a pretty much trouble free
installation and I am off to the muffler shop this morning. I think I
came up with a pretty cool way to do the exhaust too.

Fired it up last night. Man, does an FE sound good with open headers.
Funny thing, the off idle throttle response in neutral seems better than
before. Must be because it is so loud.

I am just killing time right now waiting for all my neighbors to wake up
before I start the motor again.

I am working on a report on them for my web page but I am going to try
to take some pictures while the truck is on the lift. I should have it
done by the end of this weekend.

Mark in Southwest Washington
www.pacifier.com/~draco
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'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines

Serian wrote:
> These vacuum lines go to the transmission vacuum modulator. I think
> 74 was the last year for the 2 hose setup, then Ford changed over to
> the type of modulators that only need one hose (at least on cars).

What does the 2 hose vacuum modulator look like? Can they be inter-
changed?

My '74 Supercab has one line to the modulator and is working fine.
My '74 4X4 had two lines but one wasn't hooked up. I pulled the extra
one out since the Supercab only had one. The modulator is a barrel
shaped thing with one vacuum inlet on the end and the adjusting screw
in it. When I drove it last it would not downshift. (Back in November).
I have since fixed some huge vacuum leaks so we'll see when I drive it
today.

Mark in Southwest Washington
www.pacifier.com/~draco
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'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:30:16 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - shift points on C6, overdrive?

- ------------------------------
From: "James Draughn"
I have the 79 ford van with the 351w. It has the C-6 tranny. I was
wondering if there is an overdrive I could install for this?
What I would like to do is put a
smaller rear end in my van, so it will accelerate faster? But want the
overdrive so I don't kill my highway fuel economy. Thanks for the input.

- ------------------------------
James,
Couple of things you might consider.
1. Gear Vendors sells an add-on over/under drive unit. Basically an
auxiliary transmission that mounts behind your existing trans and "splits"
your existing gear ratios. You can split shift a C-6 and have 6 forward
speeds. The disadvantage would be cost. About $3000 US.

2. Ford Motorsports sells a wide ratio gearset that fits in a C-6.
Basically it changes your first and second gear ratio to a lower (higher
numerical) ratio. High gear remains a 1:1. This will give you more grunt
off the line and leave your cruise economy fairly intact. Cost I don't know
but if your trans is close to needing a rebuild anyway this could be
justification enough to do it at the same time.

Tom H
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:34:56 -0600
From: "oxleygf msn.com"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 64 ford f100

Just bought a "new project", a f100 Flareside. Just joined this list as I'm
sure there'll be much valuable input.

First question is: The 223 six, what was the original Ford paint color of
the engine block, head, and bellhousing?

Thanks, Bill



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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:43:22 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear Ratio

Thom H writes: >>I have seen mention on this list of 2.75:1 ratio gears on late
70s 9inch rear ends. Does anyone know of a source for these parts. Mine has
3.00:1 and I would like to go to a lower numerical gearset with the wide ratio
gears in my C-6.

I have 2 of the 2.75:1's. Both are in '79's. One is streetable, the other is a
parts truck..

Where you located?? Might cost too much to ship a 3rd member.

Any '78 or '79 F100/F150 with a 9" wnd a 351M or larger engine should have the
wide ratio(if C6) and 2.75:1 gears..

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:51:56 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?

TracyJones cinergy.com wrote:

> w/lugs, centers and 2 good 31" tires at the "All Ford Columbus Ohio Swap
> Meet". The guy was asking $275 but one wheel had some slight damage so I
> passed on 'em. Good luck finding 16.5" wheels, they are not very
> plentiful.
>
> Tracy
> WANTED: 16.5" aluminum slots!!!!

Hey Tracy, or anyone else ;)

Don't hog them all. I am looking for a specific set. I have one rim, it's a
Shelby CAL 500 and need at least 3 more. Does anyone have 1 laying around?
It's a 16.5x 9.75.

thanks
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:03:33 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines

> What does the 2 hose vacuum modulator look like? Can they be inter-
> changed?

The one that was in my Mercury looked very similar to the one hose style
modulators, except it was a little bigger, and had one more hose port on it.
I'm not sure what the "factory recommended" view on it is, but when the one
in the car went bad, I put in a new one that was a one-hoser, and it worked
fine.

> My '74 Supercab has one line to the modulator and is working fine.
> My '74 4X4 had two lines but one wasn't hooked up. I pulled the extra
> one out since the Supercab only had one. The modulator is a barrel >
shaped thing with one vacuum inlet on the end and the adjusting screw
> in it. When I drove it last it would not downshift. (Back in November).
> I have since fixed some huge vacuum leaks so we'll see when I drive it
> today.

The two-hose setup might be some leftovers from '73 ... hard to tell. The
Mercury I have is a 1974 model year car, but according to the door sticker,
it was actually built in Dec of 1973. It came from the factory with a
351W-2V with AC and a FMX transmission (2 hose modulator). Perhaps that
style setup is specific to a certain series of engine-transmission
combinations ? It worked quite well when I swaaped a 1-hose modulator into
it, so I guess the 2-hose setup is just an older, less technologically
developed type of unit. If I remember under the hood correctly, the second
hose goes between a thermal vacuum switch at the back of the engine, and the
hose port on the modulator that is not in the center. (been a long time
... )

== "Serian"
'74 Mercury Montego
'76 F250 4x2 Supercab
'76 LTD (parts)
'77 Thunderbird
'79 Bronco
'79 Thunderbird (parts)
'83 F150 4x4
garage full of Ford parts
and a '79 "Not Ford" station wagon :-P
( hopefully there is enough Ford content to make up for it though ... )


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:58:26 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers FE

Ted writes: >>Azie-the ones you have, are they the tall aluminum ones?

Tall, yes. Aluminum, I don't know. I thought they were tin(sheetmetal), but
they might be aluminum. I'll check with a magnet if you wish.


Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:47:45 -0700
From: "Brandt, Chris"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?

A 16" rim will clear the the brakes on a 60. I went from 33-12.50-16.5 to
265-75-16's and the highway difference is unbelievable. The tire were both
BFG AT's. My choice would be a 255-85-16 in a BFG MT. That will be the next
set I buy. The good thing about the 16" rim over the 16.5 is you get a bead
lip instead of the drop center....This lets the tire have a softer side wall
for a much better ride.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Miska, Richard L (Rick) [SMTP:MiskaRL louisville.stortek.com]
> Sent:Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:02 AM
> To:'61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject:RE: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
>
> I saw some bfg-at's that were 33x9.50. Get some late model ford 4x4
> wheels
> (the aluminum ones 1995 1996 1997 or so, with those tires, it would look
> pretty good, and the center caps cover the dana 60 axel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John F. Bauer III [mailto:bauerjf ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:55 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - tires, 35", options?
>
>
>
> I'm in the market for 35" or 36" diameter tires for my project 4wd van.
> To
> clear the calipers on the dana 60 front axle I believe I'm limited to
> 16.5"
> wheels. It would seem a 16.5"x8.25" 8 lug wheel with 35" BFG AT tires
> would be a good choice according to the list's previous tire discussion.
> I'm planning on 95% highway travel with 5% off road, so something like a
> Super Swamper is a bit too aggressive.
>
> Can anyone suggest any skinnier tire/wheel alternatives that would be
> around the 35", 36" diameter, or would I be better off with the BFG's?
>
> John
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:30:55 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: vacuum lines

>The two-hose setup might be some leftovers from '73 ... hard to tell. The
>Mercury I have is a 1974 model year car, but according to the door sticker,
>it was actually built in Dec of 1973. It came from the factory with a
>351W-2V with AC and a FMX transmission (2 hose modulator). Perhaps that
>style setup is specific to a certain series of engine-transmission
>combinations ?

Mark and I both have FE's with C6's, I think all three of our trucks are
actually, so I wonder if the super-cab has just been switched like your
merc was ?


If I remember under the hood correctly, the second
>hose goes between a thermal vacuum switch at the back of the engine, and the
>hose port on the modulator that is not in the center. (been a long time


Hmmm...interesting, mine were both out of the same tree at the back of the
manifold. Mine doesn't downshift willingly, but it will if I poke it, I
think its a matter of adjusting the kick down rod ...

on that subject someone had a van that was runnin 75 before hittin 3rd, our
FMX Cougar did that, even when it wasn't floored, turned out someone had
swapped in the wrong kick down rod somewhere along the line. A swap from a
parts car solved the problem.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:41:28 -0600
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m

Concerning valve covers for 351w 351c 351m:
Do these valve covers interchange? I would love to have early powered by
ford or Mercury stock valve covers on my 351m. If the heads interchange I
would think the valve covers do.

Colorado Rick

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:42:38 -0700
From: Al Evitts
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 2.75:1 Gears

Tom: I have had 2 78 Vans and both of them were geared this way. Plenty
in a junkyard at least around here so that would be a place to look.
Van Housing are stronger anyhow or so I am told. FWIW

Al
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:49:13 -0700
From: "Peter LaDow"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Front Hubs and Drums

I have been mired in what started as a brake job on my '66 F-100. When
doing the rear brakes, I noticed the axles were leaking, so I pulled them
to replace the bearings and seals. When those were out, I noticed that
the diff fluid was milky white. I pulled the diff to drain the fluid
(no drain plug!) only to notice that it needed to be rebuilt. Since I had
the diff out, I dropped the axle housing to give it a good cleaning, and
had to cut the metal brake line to do that.

Anyways, I've got the rearend redone, with everything new except the drums
and wheel cylinders (these were rebuilt). Now came the front brakes.

I had to cut the brake lines again since they were firmly "welded" into the
wheel cylinders. So I replaced all the brake line in the entire truck.
And since everything else was new, I decided to drop in a new master cylinder
as well.

So, after removing the front drums, I noticed that they were different.
This entire problem became moot as I found out the drums were too far out
to be turned, so I decided I might as well buy new ones, since the rest
of the brake system is new. So I ordered new drums, and dropped the old ones
off at the machine shop to press out my hubs and press them into the new drums.

Now for the problem. One of the hubs won't fit into the drums. I did a
bit of measuring, and the hub I have that does fit, the flange that fits into
the center hole of the drum has a diameter of 3 5/8", whereas the smaller one
has a diameter of 3 1/8". Also, the studs (I got new ones), won't seat in the
smaller hub.

So I went off to the junkyard in search of a hub. Guess what? Every junkyard in
the immediate area only has the small ones! I can't buy a new one since nobody
stocks them. I saw a few posts from some people mentioning that they have parts.
Does anybody have a front hub with a 3 5/8" flange diameter they are willing to
part with?

Thanks,
Peter LaDow
pladow aha.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.aha.com

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:48:20 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m

The C & M covers do interchange. The Ws won't.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Miska, Richard L (Rick)
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:44 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m


>Concerning valve covers for 351w 351c 351m:
>Do these valve covers interchange? I would love to have early powered by
>ford or Mercury stock valve covers on my 351m. If the heads interchange I
>would think the valve covers do.
>



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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:55:24 -0600
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Valve covers 351c/w/m

Does anybody have any cheap?


The C & M covers do interchange. The Ws won't.



>Concerning valve covers for 351w 351c 351m:
>Do these valve covers interchange? I would love to have early powered by
>ford or Mercury stock valve covers on my 351m. If the heads interchange I
>would think the valve covers do.
>



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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:27:52 -0500
From: Marc A Stine
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Clutch Rod Thing (and more)

I was in the market for one of those rubber pices, until the Ford
dealer told "It'll run ya $27" I figured for that price they can keep it
for a while.

Good thing I decided to save the money now poor clifFORD (my big
red truck:) needs a new clutch and I still have to pay off it's new
sneakers, rubber sure isn't cheap even when you find a deal and a half.
Sure would be nice to have one of the trucks back on the road, Patch
(the daily driver) a 79 F150 4X4 w/300 is about do for inspection so
she's in my garage waiting for some TLC, and clifFORD (the project truck
79 F150 4X4 short bed flare side w/ 351M) sits in the transmission shop
getting some work done. So here I am the proud owner and care taker of
two wonderful pieces of equipment waiting to drive either one! I guess
it takes not being able to drive around to appreciate being able to
drive.

-Marc

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:22:44 -0500
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Clutch Rod Thing (and more)

Marc wrote:
it takes not being able to drive around to appreciate being able to
drive.
> -Marc
I know the feeling............ Makes me feel like I'm not in control! Scary
how much we depend on our wheels, and (even though SWIMBO is agreeable) I
hate moochin rides 8^)
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:22:44 -0500
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Clutch Rod Thing (and more)

Marc wrote:
it takes not being able to drive around to appreciate being able to
drive.
> -Marc
I know the feeling............ Makes me feel like I'm not in control! Scary
how much we depend on our wheels, and (even though SWIMBO is agreeable) I
hate moochin rides 8^)
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:23:08 -0800
From: "Terry Pendergrass"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH

I stumbled across someones website that had an indepth conversion formula for converting RPM to MPH with gear ratios and such. Does anyone know where I was? I didn't bookmark it so I don't remember.

I was also wanting to know where to get that 50 weight oil for the tranny. I sent a reply to one of them but never seen it return to me, so must not have went out.

I also need to know what the name of the gear is in the tailcone of the tranny. My speedo doesn't work and I checked the cable and the gear on the cable where it mounts to the tranny, but those seem to be fine. It must be the gear inside the tailcone.

Thanks in advance
Terry
'65 F100
Got some pictures up on my webpage now.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pages.hotbot.com/fan/65fordf100/index.html



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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:32:57 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH

At 03:23 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote:
>I stumbled across someones website that had an indepth conversion formula
>for converting RPM to MPH with gear ratios and such. Does anyone know where
>I was? I didn't bookmark it so I don't remember.
>
There are basic ones at places such as www.corral.net

Or you can do it based on the rolling radius of the tire, the gear ratio
and the tranny gears ... not really that tough of an equation to derive, if
you have lots of trouble with it, lemme know.



Just my 2cents

wish

Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html
'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
'96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:54:21 -0600
From: Bret Godfrey
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

Hello everybody,

I was wondering if any of you knew of a block decoder avaliable. I
have a 460 engine but I don't know what year or what vehicle it was in
originaly. the number reads D1VE 6015-A2E. I am not positve about the
E on the end it is down behind the starter and very hard to read. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

BG w/77'f-250 4x4 - 460
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:50:26 -0800
From: "Terry Pendergrass"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH

I couldn't find one on corral.net. What is the equation to do it manually?

Terry
terrpen zdnetmail.com
- --

On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:32:57 William S Hart wrote:
>At 03:23 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote:
>>I stumbled across someones website that had an indepth conversion formula
>>for converting RPM to MPH with gear ratios and such. Does anyone know where
>>I was? I didn't bookmark it so I don't remember.
>>
>There are basic ones at places such as www.corral.net
>
>Or you can do it based on the rolling radius of the tire, the gear ratio
>and the tranny gears ... not really that tough of an equation to derive, if
>you have lots of trouble with it, lemme know.
>
>
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>wish
>
>Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html
>'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
>'96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:54:41 -0500
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Converting RPM to MPH

Try http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/tech/allcalcs.html That should have the
conversion you're looking for.

Brett
76 F250 4x4
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/fbird



> I couldn't find one on corral.net. What is the equation to do it manually?
>
>Terry
>terrpen zdnetmail.com
>--
>
>On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:32:57 William S Hart wrote:
>>At 03:23 PM 4/15/99 , you wrote:
>>>I stumbled across someones website that had an indepth conversion formula
>>>for converting RPM to MPH with gear ratios and such. Does anyone know
where
>>>I was? I didn't bookmark it so I don't remember.
>>>
>>There are basic ones at places such as www.corral.net


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:25:34 -0400
From: Brad Smith
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - For Sale: '79 Sliding Rear Window

At 10:12 AM 4/15/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey Guys
>
> I've got an extra sliding rear window in my garage taking up space
>and dont have an immediate use for it. The glass is all perfect and the
>gasket is like brand new. It could stand some new channel lining I suppose
>if you're looking for perfection. If not, you can install it in there when
>ya get it and cruise around happy with your new found ventilation.
>
> If anybody is interested, drop me some mail and make me an offer.
>
>
>Thanks
>Dale Frenz
>frenz.6 osu.edu
>
>
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>
It should fit a 78 as well right?

Brad

The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
not...
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:43:46 -0400
From: "PmctBaker"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page

Hey all,

I made a web page. Take a look. Let me know how I can make it better. Have
something to add?

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www3.your-net.com/~pmbaker

later
mike baker
pmbaker your-net.com

1978 F-250 4x4
1978 Bronco Custom

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:33:38 -0400
From: Chip Rosan
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Maryland List Members?

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:
> Anyone on the list live near Baltimore??????

It ain't Maryland, but does Dover, DE count as near Baltimore?

Chip Rosan
'65 F100 short

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:26:39 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I made a web page

At 08:43 PM 15/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>I made a web page. Take a look. Let me know how I can make it better. Have
>something to add?
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www3.your-net.com/~pmbaker
>
>later
>mike baker
>pmbaker your-net.com
>
>1978 F-250 4x4
>1978 Bronco Custom

Nice! I only hope when I get around to it I have so much good stuff to say![


marko

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:39:35 -0400
From: David Wadson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Driveshaft vibration and steering noise

Well, with the snow almost all gone I crawled under my truck to change the
oil and check out what rattled loose over the winter - thankfully nothing
that I could see. The 2 oil changes that truck has had in the 9 months
since I started it up equals how often I changed the oil in my old truck in
the 3 years I had it. :-)

I think I figured out what is causing my drivetrain vibration and it's
probably not my rear axle or diff. The driveshaft I picked up for the truck
is probably about 2 or 3 inches too short! When I was underneath I grabbed
it to check the U-joints again and it has a good bit of play where it goes
into the tranny. I had a feeling that it didn't go in far enough when I
first installed it, but I think this confirms it. The driveshaft is 71-1/2
inches long from the the center of the u-joints and the tranny is a C4 and
a 302 engine in a 78 F100. Unless my truck-buddy and I are mistaken, a C6
is a couple inches longer than a C4 and that's probably what the driveshaft
is for. Can anyone check the length in their truck - we got our hands on
another driveshaft that is about and inch and a half longer that I'm
thinking of trying.

The second probably that has crept up is a low pitched, whining noise from
my power steering pump when I'm turning. Either the pump is going or my
king pins are seizing up which is surprising because when we replaced the
old seized axles with this set, you could just give the wheel a spin and
the steering would spin from one side right to the other. Could the king
pins seize up in the 6 months I've been driving the truck daily? When I had
the front end up on jack stands Monday night, the steering was very stiff
even with the power steering belt disconnected. Could a toasted pump make
it hard to turn the wheel?

If it is the king pins, would it be a bad idea to replace my worn steering
linkage before replacing the king pins? My feeling is that I would be
putting extra strain on the linkage that wouldn't be good for brand new tie
rod ends! Also, how successfull have people been in using that homemade
king pin press? Do you need a big bottle jack and how likely are they to
pop out without too much fuss? A futile attempt at removing king pins kept
this truck in my inlaws garage for an extra year when I trying to get it
running in about 3...don't want to have a dead truck in the driveway for
weeks because I've torn apart the front end trying to replace the king
pins...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:08:57 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Decoding block #'s

In a message dated 4/15/99 2:38:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BretG nsutah.com
writes:


have a 460 engine but I don't know what year or what vehicle it was in
originaly. the number reads D1VE 6015-A2E. I am not positve about the
E on the end it is down behind the starter and very hard to read. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
The number by the starter is a casting control number, not a part number, the
information it contains is the year the design was approved for that major
casting configuration. D1 stands for 1971, V is for Lincoln, the 429/460 was
originally designed for Lincoln (does not mean if came from a Lincoln). The
E means it was released for production by the Engine Division. In casting
numbers the 6015 just means engine block, and the A2E is the latest mod that
casting has. Now you are no better off than when you first ask this....


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