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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, April 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 126 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - second tank FTE 61-79 - vans FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank Re: FTE 61-79 - 73 F100?? Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank Re: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential RE: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials FTE 61-79 - jumping tach FTE 61-79 - Freon FTE 61-79 - 351W Headers in 74-F100 RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials Re: FTE 61-79 - np205 90wt or ATF? FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable FTE 61-79 - Vibs Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height FTE 61-79 - Vibration Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio? Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibs FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Muffler and differential Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Electrical Problem - Coil Ballast? RE: FTE 61-79 - Gas leaking from carb FTE 61-79 - 410 colors Re: Subject: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name? Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration FTE 61-79 - Heater core installation FTE 61-79 - vacuum lines Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors FTE 61-79 - Englishtown Swap Meet Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio? FTE 61-79 - Re: FE For '58 Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:18:42 PDT From: "brian vance" Subject: FTE 61-79 - second tank My 77 F250 4X4 has a tank in the cab. The gas door behind the fender won't open and even if it did, there's nothing there anyway. I thought it would be wise to add a second tank, the one behind the seat only holds 16 gallons. What do I have to do? I assume I need a tank that fits in the center between the frame, or do I get a saddle tank on the side? The door is between the fender and tailgate so I assume I get a tank to fit in the center between the frame? So my question is what all do I need? I found a boneyard with the ford switch, the one right next to the heater controls, then if I get the wire it's connected to and the switcher valve thing and the tank, whats left? And do I have to do something else with my spare tire? I will need to wire the tank up to my gauge, is that in the wires from the switch? What should I expect to pay? I've heard the factory switch is hard to come by so when I saw 2 or 3 at the boneyard I've been thinking hard about this. All your help is GREATLY appreciated!!! Sorry so long. Brian- Northern Colorado _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 99 07:46:23 PDT From: "gman" Subject: FTE 61-79 - vans I've only been on the list a very short while. There doesn't seem to be = much talk of vans from the 60's. I've been looking for any information = on them - ie. changes in each model year, photos of ford vans of that era= in stock condition, options offered in each year, drive train info, the = whole picture. Does anyone out there have such info or know where I can = get it? Off-list replies are welcome. g-man '96 Ranger Splash == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:19:29 -0500 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential Well gang, I have some crow to eat and some questions to ask. First the crow. My exhaust system is aluminized pipe and the welds are ferrous based as they are rusting. The only exception is the two welds I watched him make which hold the chrome tips on and they are brass. Just as an FYI, my muffler is an IMCO brand, CM533, 03082, Made in USA. I have no idea what all that means. Now for the real stuff, my differential. I found the tag. It had 20 years of grime on it, but I got it clean enough to read. It says HDM CJ 9GB 2 75 9 356A I figure the 275 is the ratio, the 9 means Ford 9 inch, the CJ goes along with the 13J axle code I found on the door tag. But like Jack says in The Nightmare Before Christmas, "What does it mean, what does it mean?" Also cast in the pinion housing just above where the drive shaft connects is 028W-C I blocked both front wheels, jacked up both rear wheels, released the emergency brake, put the transmission in N and turned the rear wheels by hand. I was surprised and perplexed. When I turned the left wheel forward, the right wheel turned backwards except if I turned the left wheel real fast, the right wheel stopped turning and just sat there. When I turned the left wheel backwards at all speeds the right wheel turned frontwards. No matter how fast or in what direction I turned the right wheel, the left wheel turned the opposite direction at an equal rate.The drive shaft never moved during any of this. I haven't found any suitable dirt yet, but in some loose dirt on dry pavement, when I punch it from a standstill, the right tire spins and marks rubber, but the truck moves forward very quickly. My conclusion so far is that I have a locker differential, not a true positrack. I think that if it was open, the hand turning while jacked up would have turned the opposite wheel in the opposite direction no matter what and the dry pavement/loose dirt test would have left me sitting spinning the right tire until I let off of the gas. Comments? Clarifications? What type of gear lube should be in a locker differential for proper operation? I am almost certain that when I had it changed last year they put in run of the mill gear oil. I didn't know to tell them any different and I know they didn't check. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:27:02 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank >My 77 F250 4X4 has a tank in the cab. The gas door behind the fender >won't open and even if it did, there's nothing there anyway. I >thought it would be wise to add a second tank, the one behind the >seat only holds 16 gallons. What do I have to do? I assume I need a >tank that fits in the center between the frame, or do I get a saddle >tank on the side? The door is between the fender and tailgate so I >assume I get a tank to fit in the center between the frame? If it is going behind the rear axle, the stock one will be between the frame rails. Might look at the back of the door and be sure its really got all its hinges, dunno why Ford wouldn't put them on, but its possible they just tacked the door in there with bolts to keep the hole covered. So my >question is what all do I need? I found a boneyard with the ford >switch, the one right next to the heater controls, then if I get the >wire it's connected to and the switcher valve thing and the tank, >whats left? Lets see, that was the switch for the gauge, and the valve, and the tank ... how about the wiring harness, need to get the fuel level reading up there somehow ... or just run a new line for the sending unit ... at any rate that's what else ... also the straps and such to hold the new/old tank in. And do I have to do something else with my spare tire? It should hang under the tank, might need a longer holder dealy ... can't describe it as none of our trucks have them anymore (73ish, 89, 91 all gone) Hope that helps a little. The extra range will probably be pretty nice (i'm stuck right now with just the 19 in the back) Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:28:18 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 73 F100?? At 09:01 PM 4/9/99 , you wrote: >Anyone know where I can see pictures of 1973 F100 pickup on the web?? > Are you looking for anything in particular on them ? Or just any pics ? Check out the FTE website, I'm sure there's a few there ... www.ford-trucks.com Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:32:27 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height >> there's maybe 6 inches of space -- could that be why > >I think your truck has a lift kit, Gene! My '70 F250 (2WD/Crew Cab) >has only 2" between beams and bumpers in front. Rear has about 5-1/2". >-- Only 2" ?? Does your truck sit with kind of a rake to it ? front much lower than the back ? Is it possible your springs are sagging a bit ? I would think that some fairly small bumps would bottom out a truck like this ... mine used to til I put the new springs in, its soo much nicer now ... well it is when its running anyway ... I'm working on a tech page for how to install the front springs (took a few pics when I did it), but its for a 4wd ... should be similar, but not quite the same for a 2wd I would guess ... I'll let ya'll know when that's up and running if you're interested. Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:06:33 -0700 From: "Michael Connor" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank I have the same year truck with the same problem. The truck is from the transitional year right before they went to the 77 1/2 style. The thing you'll want to check is the width of your frame rails in the rear. I too have the filler door in my rear fender behind the tire and thought I would just add the factory tank but discovered that my frame is too narrow to accept it. It seems that Ford put the newer bed on the older frame on some of the trucks for that year. You're the only other guy I've ran into with the same problem as me.:-) Somebody was saying that the newer trucks have the same frame width as my older truck and that a newer tank might fit. I'm looking into it; I'll let you know what I find out. Hope this helps, Uncle Mike Phoenix, AZ. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:17:58 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential >Well gang, I have some crow to eat and some questions to ask. > I think I'll share some of that crow ... >I blocked both front wheels, jacked up both rear wheels, released the >emergency brake, put the transmission in N and turned the rear wheels by >hand. I was surprised and perplexed. When I turned the left wheel forward, >the right wheel turned backwards except if I turned the left wheel real >fast, the right wheel stopped turning and just sat there. When I turned the >left wheel backwards at all speeds the right wheel turned frontwards. No >matter how fast or in what direction I turned the right wheel, the left >wheel turned the opposite direction at an equal rate.The drive shaft never >moved during any of this. > >I haven't found any suitable dirt yet, but in some loose dirt on dry >pavement, when I punch it from a standstill, the right tire spins and marks >rubber, but the truck moves forward very quickly. > It seems like a 2.75 rear with a trak-lok unit would be a rarity at best. Since the wheel spins opposite directions, I would bet its an open rear. I'll see if I can get my trak-lok stang up on a jack tonight and see if the wheels spin opposite ways or the same way ... that should answer that I think... Sorry to get your hopes up too high, but someone mentioned that the J was the weight rating or something like that. Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:02:37 -0400 From: TracyJones Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential > ---------- > From: William S Hart[SMTP:wish > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:17 AM > To: 61-79-list > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential > > It seems like a 2.75 rear with a trak-lok unit would be a rarity at best. > Since the wheel spins opposite directions, I would bet its an open rear. > It's open, without a doubt. > I'll see if I can get my trak-lok stang up on a jack tonight and see if > the > wheels spin opposite ways or the same way ... that should answer that I > think... > A limited slip or a locker will turn both tires the same direction. AFAIK FORD never put a true "locker" in any light truck. Tracy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:08:24 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials Thanks for your message at 11:02 AM 4/12/99 -0400, TracyJones Your message was: >A limited slip or a locker will turn both tires the same direction. > >AFAIK FORD never put a true "locker" in any light truck. > How about limited slip? I know they are fairly available in light trucks. It seems like we went through this some time ago, but I would like to see somewhere, sometime, a list of which rear ends came in which year and which size trucks. I always wonder where the rear end in my Blue '62 (3.25 limited slip) came from. Original equipment? A car? Just curious... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:29:03 -0500 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - jumping tach Drew, Every time this happens on any of my vehicles, it has always been the signal feed wire to the tach. It either works or gets knocked loose at the coil. Plug it back in or patch the break and your in business. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:03:15 -0500 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - Freon >>What about R406a. It looked promising last time I researched it. Thanks, Ox. I'll look in to it. - -John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:48:57 -0500 From: Don Yerhot Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351W Headers in 74-F100 Does anybody know if there are headers available for a 351W in a 74-F100? I have already tried a set for a 302/69-79 combo and they hit the steering box and the starter. If I could find another set of 69 van exhaust manifolds I'd be happy, but they seem to be on the endangered list :-( DonY 65F250-351W-435NP 74F100 (Soon to have a 351W) 3 on the tree. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:52:23 -0500 From: William S Hart Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials > How about limited slip? I know they are fairly available in light trucks. > It seems like we went through this some time ago, but I would like to see >somewhere, sometime, a list of which rear ends came in which year and which >size trucks. I always wonder where the rear end in my Blue '62 (3.25 >limited slip) came from. Original equipment? A car? >Just curious... > I imagine they were optional on most trucks (don't have the red book handy), but the 3.25 locker was fairly common (as per my understanding) on the Mach 1's from 69 and 70 at least. Since those were 9"ers too, it would have been a very easy swap ... the only ratio's I've heard of factory limited slips were 3.25 and higher numerically. that's not to say it can't happen with lower numbers, just that that's all I've ever seen mentioned in the stang and truck literature I've read. If you have any casting numbers or anything on your truck's diff, maybe you can trace the 3rd member and see what it came out of ? Just my 2cents wish Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:28:37 -0800 From: "Terry Pendergrass" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - np205 90wt or ATF? - -- On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:28:09 William L. Ballinger wrote: >> I've used 80/90w gear lube for 105k miles in my >> NP205 without problem. I'd >> use 50w only for very cold climates. Auto Trans >> fluid is for the chain >> driven T-cases and is not to be used in a gear drive >> T-case. > >The 50Wt engine oil has roughly the same viscosity as >80-90 gear oil, switched to the >Mobiltrans SHC50 Where do you get this stuff? > I found out how smooth an NP435 can be. It performs >in 10 degree weather just like it's 90 degrees out. I'm in Arizona, would it still be OK to use this? It gets quite warm here in the summer. >The Dana 24 rolls so much easier, again it performs in ^^^^^^^ I'm assuming this is a rearend. Would it work in all diffs? Terry '65 F100 Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.zdnetmail.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:34:35 -0400 From: am14 Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable >>Drew writes: >>Oh yeah, it's a '67 F100 with a 390 and breaker point ignition. The points and condenser are only a month old. Did your needle start jumping about the same time as you installed the new points/condenser???? If yes, then I would be examining them. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:53:22 -0400 From: am14 Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibs Steve Schmek writes: >>A previous thread, about the 302 being externally balanced, got me thinkin' I probably didn't index the flywheel on right. Can anyone please tell me how to index the flywheel? Steve, I'm not at all familiar with the 302, but on all other Ford engines that I am familiar with, the Flywheel will only mount one way. The bolt holes aren't much off, but there is only one way the FE's and the 385 series will bolt up. You can't mount the flywheel wrong on these engines, and I'd venture to guess, this is true of the 302 also. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height wish wrote: > >> there's maybe 6 inches of space -- could that be why > > > >I think your truck has a lift kit, Gene! My '70 F250 (2WD/Crew Cab) > >has only 2" between beams and bumpers in front. Rear has about 5-1/2". > >-- > > Only 2" ?? Does your truck sit with kind of a rake to it ? front much > lower than the back ? Is it possible your springs are sagging a bit ? I > would think that some fairly small bumps would bottom out a truck like this > ... mine used to til I put the new springs in, its soo much nicer now ... > well it is when its running anyway ... Kind of surprised me, too. Although I suspect some sag in a 30 y/o truck, it does sit nice and level, and fairly high also. I dunno. Truck weighs 5000 lbs empty, I've had 2500 lbs of rock (quarry scale in/out) in it and the rear was just starting to squat on the secondary springs. I've never checked out the front under loaded conditions, but with the short bed most loads are centered on the rear axle anyway. > I'm working on a tech page for how to install the front springs (took a few > pics when I did it), but its for a 4wd ... should be similar, but not quite > the same for a 2wd I would guess ... I'll let ya'll know when that's up and > running if you're interested. > We're always interested :-) - -- Pat Brown Sunny and warm at last in Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:24:36 -0400 From: am14 Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibration Ted writes: >> I'm still here with a shaking truck. The center bearing definitely needed replaced, but it didn't solve the problem. The only time it does it is when it's in gear and moving. It stops when I let up on the gas. Since it stops when I let up, the guy that worked on it seems to think the driveshaft(s)?are out of balance. Seems logical. The only problem is finding someone around here that balances driveshafts.This small town life does have its disadvantages. Any other thoughts or suggestions are needed and greatly appreciated. Ted !!! If the Vibration stops when you let off the gas, then it must be in the rearend!!!! I don't see how it could be the driveshafts, because just because you let up off the gas it is still turning at the same speed (relatively). It will slow down, but gradually - not suddenly enough to stop a vibration of the nature you are describing. I'd start looking at something else. Maybe put it up on jack stands and block the front really well and spin the rear end up by putting it in gear and very slowly reving her up till the vibration starts and look under it from the rear(spinning her forward) and see if anything is jumping up and down or if I can isolate it by the sound Hope you find it.. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:27:54 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Long" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio? CJ, About the town you found on 62... the first town you talked about in your message... did you find what town you where looking for? I'd like to know what town it is.... I may be able to help you figure what town it was also... I'm from that general area. Rob Long '78 F-250 4x4, 400M, 4spd, 4" lift == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:13:10 -0600 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration At 03:24 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote: All right you guys, here's the answer, I think. What you seem to have is a slip yoke problem. I had the same problem on my F100 and it seems the slip yoke vibrates. It doesn't vibrate when it's not under power, cause the grease takes up the slop and the thing centers itself. If you load your tail down so the angle of the yoke changes, you'll notice a change in the vibration, probably for the worse. A new slip yoke is the answer. marko >Ted writes: >> I'm still here with a shaking truck. The center bearing >definitely needed replaced, but it didn't solve the problem. The only time it >does it is when it's in gear and moving. It stops when I let up on the gas. >Since it stops when I let up, the guy that worked on it seems to think the >driveshaft(s)?are out of balance. Seems logical. > The only problem is finding someone around here that balances >driveshafts.This small town life does have its disadvantages. Any other thoughts >or suggestions are needed and greatly appreciated. > >Ted !!! If the Vibration stops when you let off the gas, then it must be in >the rearend!!!! I don't see how it could be the driveshafts, because just >because you let up off the gas it is still turning at the same speed >(relatively). It will slow down, but gradually - not suddenly enough to stop a >vibration of the nature you are describing. I'd start looking at something >else. Maybe put it up on jack stands and block the front really well and spin >the rear end up by putting it in gear and very slowly reving her up till the >vibration starts and look under it from the rear(spinning her forward) and see >if anything is jumping up and down or if I can isolate it by the sound > >Hope you find it.. > >Azie >Ardmore, Al. > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:17:35 -0600 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable At 02:34 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>Drew writes: >>Oh yeah, it's a '67 F100 with a 390 and breaker point >ignition. The points and condenser are only a month old. > >Did your needle start jumping about the same time as you installed the new >points/condenser???? > >If yes, then I would be examining them. > >Azie >Ardmore, Al. > Hey, Bear in mind that in a chain, or any system for that matter, when you strengthen some components or links other weak links begin to show up. A hotter spark from a new cap, or points, or rotor, or condenser, or coil, will show up bad wires. Maybe you loosened a wire or two when you popped the cap off. Maybe the cap has developed a crack. If you used new components, then chances are they're just underlining other weaknesses in your system which weren't evident before. Kinda like a 15lb cap on an old radiator! marko == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:30 -0600 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials At 09:08 AM 12/04/99 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks for your message at 11:02 AM 4/12/99 -0400, TracyJones >Your message was: > >A limited slip or a locker will turn both tires the same direction. >> >>AFAIK FORD never put a true "locker" in any light truck. >> > How about limited slip? I know they are fairly available in light trucks. > It seems like we went through this some time ago, but I would like to see >somewhere, sometime, a list of which rear ends came in which year and which >size trucks. I always wonder where the rear end in my Blue '62 (3.25 >limited slip) came from. Original equipment? A car? >Just curious... > > >Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA > >1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C >1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed >1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) > I shortened this to only FT's My 67 mercury M-100 has a limited slip Dana 44 in the back. marko == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:15:53 -0700 From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibs Thanks Azie 8^) Checked a couple of spares I had layin around and you're right. Can't put em on wrong. Wonder if I put the wrong one back in though??? Guess when I get some free time I'll tear it down and see. Smeck, 79 F100 FTE "Brain Trust" - -----Original Message----- From: am14 To: 61-79-list Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 12:29 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibs >Steve Schmek writes: >>A previous thread, about the 302 being externally >balanced, got me thinkin' I probably didn't index the flywheel on right. Can >anyone please tell me how to index the flywheel? > >Steve, I'm not at all familiar with the 302, but on all other Ford engines that >I am familiar with, the Flywheel will only mount one way. The bolt holes aren't >much off, but there is only one way the FE's and the 385 series will bolt up. >You can't mount the flywheel wrong on these engines, and I'd venture to guess, >this is true of the 302 also. > >Azie >Ardmore, Al. > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:39:36 -0400 From: Joel Minsky Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Muffler and differential Hi. I'm new to the list. John LaGrone wrote: > > My conclusion so far is that I have a locker differential, not a true > positrack. I would have to agree with the other people who responded that you have an open differential. I'm confused as to what you mean by a *true* positrack. I thought positrack was the GM name for a limited slip differential. That is one that allowed the wheels to rotate at different rates going around corners but limited the difference in torque going to opposite wheels by means of a clutch or something. They're sometimes an option on trucks. On the other hand a locking differential does just that, it locks wheels so they turn at exactly the same rate. They make noise in tight corners and can cause tires to wear quicker and are an after market thing. Hope this helps. Sorry I don't know what all the stamping on your diff. means, that was your question. =============================================================== Joel Minsky '79 F-150 joel_minsky http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www-unix.ecs.umass.edu/~jminsky/ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:47:49 -0800 From: "Terry Pendergrass" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Electrical Problem - Coil Ballast? - -- On Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:23:04 William S Hart wrote: >At 10:02 AM 4/7/99 , you wrote: >>Thanks for replying on this. I am going to have to get a >>clearer picture of the relationship between the coil, points, >>and condenser. >> > >Here's my understanding of it ... when the points are together (closed), a >current flows from the vehicles electrical system and charges the capacitor >(condenser) ... then when the points break, there is a charge stored in the >condensor which is discharged through the coil windings, which in turn >steps up the voltage so that the dist can point to a cylinder and fire its >spark plugs..... I just got through reading an article in the May 1999 issue of "Classic Trucks" called Ignition Basics. I am not sure if that is exactly right, but it is close, if it's not. > >Now that I've said all this, it doesn't seem quite right ... does the >condenser charge when the points are opened or closed ? hmmm...hafta >lookin the book tonight I guess ... after I dig that up I should be able to >get you a fairly detailed explanation .... > > >Just my 2cents > >wish > >Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html >'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html >'96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.zdnetmail.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: brian michael logan Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Gas leaking from carb I'm a little slow on the draw..... Take the wooden/plastic end of a screwdriver and tap on the carb right next to the inlet hose. Do this while there is still some pressure in the fuel line. Tap firmly but NOT like you're trying to pop out a kingpin. It's usually a piece of c# I think chunks of fuelline rubber were chunking off and sticking in the bowl's valve seat.... causing it to stick open and overflow the carb. Tapping on the carb will free it up. It's cheaper than a teardown and rebuild. > Check the needle and seat that controls inlet fuel to the bowl. sounds like > its sticking. > > mike baker > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > _____________________________________________________________________________ B r i a n M i c h a e l L o g a n == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:04:06 -0400 From: "Ted & Sarah Freeman" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors Marko, Glad your back! I have a question for ya'. You redid an original 410, didn't you? What were the colors for that motor? I picked up some 410 decals this weekend at a swap meet for the 410 Marauder and the decal was gold. Is the breather and valve covers gold on the Mercury? TIA. - -Ted - ----- Original Message ----- From: Marko Maryniak To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 4:17 PM Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable > At 02:34 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote: > >>>Drew writes: >>Oh yeah, it's a '67 F100 with a 390 and breaker point > >ignition. The points and condenser are only a month old. > > > >Did your needle start jumping about the same time as you installed the new > >points/condenser???? > > > >If yes, then I would be examining them. > > > >Azie > >Ardmore, Al. > > > > Hey, > > Bear in mind that in a chain, or any system for that matter, when you > strengthen some components or links other weak links begin to show up. A > hotter spark from a new cap, or points, or rotor, or condenser, or coil, > will show up bad wires. > > Maybe you loosened a wire or two when you popped the cap off. Maybe the > cap has developed a crack. > If you used new components, then chances are they're just underlining other > weaknesses in your system which weren't evident before. > > Kinda like a 15lb cap on an old radiator! > > > marko > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:26:35 -0400 From: "Matthew Schwartz" Subject: Re: Subject: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name? Well, I bought a 76 Ford F250 Supercab. After a downhill wild ride in neutral, my hunting buddy named it "Rolling Thunder" and the name has stuck. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:37:53 -0700 (PDT) From: TheFORDMAN Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration Ted does your trk have an auto or man. trans? and does the thing vibrate out of gear or in neutral when the trk is sitting when you rev up the motor? cause if it does, either your flywheel assembly is out of balance or your flex plate is bent. ck the service cover to see if the flex plate is bent or the pressure plate maybe loose just a thought Eric aka The FORDMAN == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:03:54 -0400 From: Scott Subject: FTE 61-79 - Heater core installation I have a 1970 F100 ranger with air conditioning. I need some pointers = on removing and installing a new heater core. I have the Heater core = itself, what other parts do I need before starting in.. (ie. Hoses = etc.) Scott E. Winston-Salem, NC == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:42:44 -0500 From: "Ted Stringfellow" Subject: FTE 61-79 - vacuum lines Does anybody have any photos that show the connections and routing of the vacuum lines for a 1978 351M in a F150? The Chilton manual doesn't hav this one listed and the drawings aren't detailed enough to quite do the trick. Actually, I'm trying to figure out which ones I can plug so I can strip out all the emission controls and make maintenance simpler. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:57:46 -0600 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors At 09:04 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote: >Marko, > >Glad your back! > >I have a question for ya'. You redid an original 410, didn't you? What >were the colors for that motor? I picked up some 410 decals this weekend at >a swap meet for the 410 Marauder and the decal was gold. Is the breather >and valve covers gold on the Mercury? TIA. > >-Ted Hey, Ted. The original color for the air cleaner was Old Ford Blue. Really. I am painting mine Endura semi-gloss black, however. It will look nasty with the gold sticker. Nice snowflakes on it, huh? Or are they asterisks? marko == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:03:51 -0600 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors At 09:04 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote: >Marko, > >Glad your back! > >I have a question for ya'. You redid an original 410, didn't you? What >were the colors for that motor? I picked up some 410 decals this weekend at >a swap meet for the 410 Marauder and the decal was gold. Is the breather >and valve covers gold on the Mercury? TIA. > >-Ted > Oh yeah, the motor was the same color. I've painted mine again, a slightly darker shade of blue, closer to new Ford blue. Looks a bit better I think. marko == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:05:25 -0400 From: Walter Ford Subject: FTE 61-79 - Englishtown Swap Meet I am not sure if anyone has suggested this, and I am probably far behind, but since I am sure that more than a few of us will be in Englistown, NJ this weekend, we should all get together and swap our Ford stories, since this is a "Swap Meet". And maybe one of you can help me name my truck, since after 2 years I still cant name it. Walter 78 F-150 4x4 351M 4 on-the-floor == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:49:36 -0400 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio? There's a place in Shelby,OH called the Car Corral. Looking at Mapquest, it shows 61 going into Shelby. That's the only place I can think of. Other than Hartmans, but that's in Bluffton which is southwest of me on I-75. The mystery continues!! Ted > About the town you found on 62. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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