61-79-list-digest Tuesday, April 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 126



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - second tank
FTE 61-79 - vans
FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential
Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank
Re: FTE 61-79 - 73 F100??
Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height
Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank
Re: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential
RE: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential
RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials
FTE 61-79 - jumping tach
FTE 61-79 - Freon
FTE 61-79 - 351W Headers in 74-F100
RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials
Re: FTE 61-79 - np205 90wt or ATF?
FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable
FTE 61-79 - Vibs
Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height
FTE 61-79 - Vibration
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable
RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials
Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibs
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Muffler and differential
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Electrical Problem - Coil Ballast?
RE: FTE 61-79 - Gas leaking from carb
FTE 61-79 - 410 colors
Re: Subject: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration
FTE 61-79 - Heater core installation
FTE 61-79 - vacuum lines
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors
FTE 61-79 - Englishtown Swap Meet
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio?
FTE 61-79 - Re: FE For '58
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors
Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:18:42 PDT
From: "brian vance"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - second tank

My 77 F250 4X4 has a tank in the cab. The gas door behind the fender
won't open and even if it did, there's nothing there anyway. I
thought it would be wise to add a second tank, the one behind the
seat only holds 16 gallons. What do I have to do? I assume I need a
tank that fits in the center between the frame, or do I get a saddle
tank on the side? The door is between the fender and tailgate so I
assume I get a tank to fit in the center between the frame? So my
question is what all do I need? I found a boneyard with the ford
switch, the one right next to the heater controls, then if I get the
wire it's connected to and the switcher valve thing and the tank,
whats left? And do I have to do something else with my spare tire?
I will need to wire the tank up to my gauge, is that in the wires
from the switch? What should I expect to pay? I've heard the
factory switch is hard to come by so when I saw 2 or 3 at the
boneyard I've been thinking hard about this. All your help is
GREATLY appreciated!!! Sorry so long.

Brian-
Northern Colorado

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 99 07:46:23 PDT
From: "gman"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - vans

I've only been on the list a very short while. There doesn't seem to be =
much talk of vans from the 60's. I've been looking for any information =
on them - ie. changes in each model year, photos of ford vans of that era=
in stock condition, options offered in each year, drive train info, the =
whole picture. Does anyone out there have such info or know where I can =
get it? Off-list replies are welcome.

g-man
'96 Ranger Splash

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:19:29 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential

Well gang, I have some crow to eat and some questions to ask.

First the crow. My exhaust system is aluminized pipe and the welds are
ferrous based as they are rusting. The only exception is the two welds I
watched him make which hold the chrome tips on and they are brass. Just as
an FYI, my muffler is an IMCO brand, CM533, 03082, Made in USA. I have no
idea what all that means.

Now for the real stuff, my differential. I found the tag. It had 20 years
of grime on it, but I got it clean enough to read. It says

HDM CJ 9GB
2 75 9 356A

I figure the 275 is the ratio, the 9 means Ford 9 inch, the CJ goes along
with the 13J axle code I found on the door tag. But like Jack says in The
Nightmare Before Christmas, "What does it mean, what does it mean?" Also
cast in the pinion housing just above where the drive shaft connects is

028W-C

I blocked both front wheels, jacked up both rear wheels, released the
emergency brake, put the transmission in N and turned the rear wheels by
hand. I was surprised and perplexed. When I turned the left wheel forward,
the right wheel turned backwards except if I turned the left wheel real
fast, the right wheel stopped turning and just sat there. When I turned the
left wheel backwards at all speeds the right wheel turned frontwards. No
matter how fast or in what direction I turned the right wheel, the left
wheel turned the opposite direction at an equal rate.The drive shaft never
moved during any of this.

I haven't found any suitable dirt yet, but in some loose dirt on dry
pavement, when I punch it from a standstill, the right tire spins and marks
rubber, but the truck moves forward very quickly.

My conclusion so far is that I have a locker differential, not a true
positrack. I think that if it was open, the hand turning while jacked up
would have turned the opposite wheel in the opposite direction no matter
what and the dry pavement/loose dirt test would have left me sitting
spinning the right tire until I let off of the gas.

Comments? Clarifications? What type of gear lube should be in a locker
differential for proper operation? I am almost certain that when I had it
changed last year they put in run of the mill gear oil. I didn't know to
tell them any different and I know they didn't check.

- -John

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:27:02 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank

>My 77 F250 4X4 has a tank in the cab. The gas door behind the fender
>won't open and even if it did, there's nothing there anyway. I
>thought it would be wise to add a second tank, the one behind the
>seat only holds 16 gallons. What do I have to do? I assume I need a
>tank that fits in the center between the frame, or do I get a saddle
>tank on the side? The door is between the fender and tailgate so I
>assume I get a tank to fit in the center between the frame?

If it is going behind the rear axle, the stock one will be between the
frame rails. Might look at the back of the door and be sure its really got
all its hinges, dunno why Ford wouldn't put them on, but its possible they
just tacked the door in there with bolts to keep the hole covered.

So my
>question is what all do I need? I found a boneyard with the ford
>switch, the one right next to the heater controls, then if I get the
>wire it's connected to and the switcher valve thing and the tank,
>whats left?

Lets see, that was the switch for the gauge, and the valve, and the tank
... how about the wiring harness, need to get the fuel level reading up
there somehow ... or just run a new line for the sending unit ... at any
rate that's what else ... also the straps and such to hold the new/old tank in.


And do I have to do something else with my spare tire?

It should hang under the tank, might need a longer holder dealy ... can't
describe it as none of our trucks have them anymore (73ish, 89, 91 all gone)


Hope that helps a little.
The extra range will probably be pretty nice (i'm stuck right now with just
the 19 in the back)


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:28:18 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 73 F100??

At 09:01 PM 4/9/99 , you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can see pictures of 1973 F100 pickup on the web??
>

Are you looking for anything in particular on them ? Or just any pics ?
Check out the FTE website, I'm sure there's a few there ...

www.ford-trucks.com


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:32:27 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height

>> there's maybe 6 inches of space -- could that be why
>
>I think your truck has a lift kit, Gene! My '70 F250 (2WD/Crew Cab)
>has only 2" between beams and bumpers in front. Rear has about 5-1/2".
>--

Only 2" ?? Does your truck sit with kind of a rake to it ? front much
lower than the back ? Is it possible your springs are sagging a bit ? I
would think that some fairly small bumps would bottom out a truck like this
... mine used to til I put the new springs in, its soo much nicer now ...
well it is when its running anyway ...

I'm working on a tech page for how to install the front springs (took a few
pics when I did it), but its for a 4wd ... should be similar, but not quite
the same for a 2wd I would guess ... I'll let ya'll know when that's up and
running if you're interested.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:06:33 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - second tank

I have the same year truck with the same problem. The
truck is from the transitional year right before they went
to the 77 1/2 style. The thing you'll want to check is the
width of your frame rails in the rear. I too have the filler
door in my rear fender behind the tire and thought I would
just add the factory tank but discovered that my frame is
too narrow to accept it. It seems that Ford put the newer
bed on the older frame on some of the trucks for that year.
You're the only other guy I've ran into with the same problem
as me.:-)
Somebody was saying that the newer trucks have the same
frame width as my older truck and that a newer tank might
fit. I'm looking into it; I'll let you know what I find out.

Hope this helps,

Uncle Mike
Phoenix, AZ.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:17:58 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential

>Well gang, I have some crow to eat and some questions to ask.
>
I think I'll share some of that crow ...

>I blocked both front wheels, jacked up both rear wheels, released the
>emergency brake, put the transmission in N and turned the rear wheels by
>hand. I was surprised and perplexed. When I turned the left wheel forward,
>the right wheel turned backwards except if I turned the left wheel real
>fast, the right wheel stopped turning and just sat there. When I turned the
>left wheel backwards at all speeds the right wheel turned frontwards. No
>matter how fast or in what direction I turned the right wheel, the left
>wheel turned the opposite direction at an equal rate.The drive shaft never
>moved during any of this.
>
>I haven't found any suitable dirt yet, but in some loose dirt on dry
>pavement, when I punch it from a standstill, the right tire spins and marks
>rubber, but the truck moves forward very quickly.
>

It seems like a 2.75 rear with a trak-lok unit would be a rarity at best.
Since the wheel spins opposite directions, I would bet its an open rear.
I'll see if I can get my trak-lok stang up on a jack tonight and see if the
wheels spin opposite ways or the same way ... that should answer that I
think...

Sorry to get your hopes up too high, but someone mentioned that the J was
the weight rating or something like that.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:02:37 -0400
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential

> ----------
> From: William S Hart[SMTP:wish iastate.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:17 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Muffler and differential
>
> It seems like a 2.75 rear with a trak-lok unit would be a rarity at best.
> Since the wheel spins opposite directions, I would bet its an open rear.
>
It's open, without a doubt.

> I'll see if I can get my trak-lok stang up on a jack tonight and see if
> the
> wheels spin opposite ways or the same way ... that should answer that I
> think...
>
A limited slip or a locker will turn both tires the same direction.

AFAIK FORD never put a true "locker" in any light truck.

Tracy



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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:08:24 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials

Thanks for your message at 11:02 AM 4/12/99 -0400, TracyJones cinergy.com.
Your message was:
>A limited slip or a locker will turn both tires the same direction.
>
>AFAIK FORD never put a true "locker" in any light truck.
>
How about limited slip? I know they are fairly available in light trucks.
It seems like we went through this some time ago, but I would like to see
somewhere, sometime, a list of which rear ends came in which year and which
size trucks. I always wonder where the rear end in my Blue '62 (3.25
limited slip) came from. Original equipment? A car?
Just curious...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:29:03 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - jumping tach

Drew,

Every time this happens on any of my vehicles, it has always been the
signal feed wire to the tach. It either works or gets knocked loose at the
coil. Plug it back in or patch the break and your in business.

- -John

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:03:15 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Freon

>>What about R406a. It looked promising last time I researched it.

Thanks, Ox. I'll look in to it.

- -John

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:48:57 -0500
From: Don Yerhot
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351W Headers in 74-F100

Does anybody know if there are headers available for a 351W in a
74-F100? I have already tried a set for a 302/69-79 combo and they hit
the steering box and the starter. If I could find another set of 69 van
exhaust manifolds I'd be happy, but they seem to be on the endangered
list :-(

DonY
65F250-351W-435NP
74F100 (Soon to have a 351W) 3 on the tree.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:52:23 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials

> How about limited slip? I know they are fairly available in light trucks.
> It seems like we went through this some time ago, but I would like to see
>somewhere, sometime, a list of which rear ends came in which year and which
>size trucks. I always wonder where the rear end in my Blue '62 (3.25
>limited slip) came from. Original equipment? A car?
>Just curious...
>

I imagine they were optional on most trucks (don't have the red book
handy), but the 3.25 locker was fairly common (as per my understanding) on
the Mach 1's from 69 and 70 at least. Since those were 9"ers too, it would
have been a very easy swap ... the only ratio's I've heard of factory
limited slips were 3.25 and higher numerically. that's not to say it can't
happen with lower numbers, just that that's all I've ever seen mentioned in
the stang and truck literature I've read.

If you have any casting numbers or anything on your truck's diff, maybe you
can trace the 3rd member and see what it came out of ?

Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:28:37 -0800
From: "Terry Pendergrass"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - np205 90wt or ATF?


- --

On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:28:09 William L. Ballinger wrote:
>> I've used 80/90w gear lube for 105k miles in my >> NP205 without problem. I'd
>> use 50w only for very cold climates. Auto Trans >> fluid is for the chain
>> driven T-cases and is not to be used in a gear drive >> T-case.
>
>The 50Wt engine oil has roughly the same viscosity as >80-90 gear oil, switched to the
>Mobiltrans SHC50

Where do you get this stuff?

> I found out how smooth an NP435 can be. It performs >in 10 degree weather just like it's 90 degrees out.

I'm in Arizona, would it still be OK to use this? It gets quite warm here in the summer.

>The Dana 24 rolls so much easier, again it performs in
^^^^^^^
I'm assuming this is a rearend. Would it work in all diffs?

Terry
'65 F100




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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:34:35 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable

>>Drew writes: >>Oh yeah, it's a '67 F100 with a 390 and breaker point
ignition. The points and condenser are only a month old.

Did your needle start jumping about the same time as you installed the new
points/condenser????

If yes, then I would be examining them.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:53:22 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibs

Steve Schmek writes: >>A previous thread, about the 302 being externally
balanced, got me thinkin' I probably didn't index the flywheel on right. Can
anyone please tell me how to index the flywheel?

Steve, I'm not at all familiar with the 302, but on all other Ford engines that
I am familiar with, the Flywheel will only mount one way. The bolt holes aren't
much off, but there is only one way the FE's and the 385 series will bolt up.
You can't mount the flywheel wrong on these engines, and I'd venture to guess,
this is true of the 302 also.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front spring height

wish wrote:
> >> there's maybe 6 inches of space -- could that be why
> >
> >I think your truck has a lift kit, Gene! My '70 F250 (2WD/Crew Cab)
> >has only 2" between beams and bumpers in front. Rear has about 5-1/2".
> >--
>
> Only 2" ?? Does your truck sit with kind of a rake to it ? front much
> lower than the back ? Is it possible your springs are sagging a bit ? I
> would think that some fairly small bumps would bottom out a truck like this
> ... mine used to til I put the new springs in, its soo much nicer now ...
> well it is when its running anyway ...

Kind of surprised me, too. Although I suspect some sag in a 30 y/o
truck, it does sit nice and level, and fairly high also. I dunno.
Truck weighs 5000 lbs empty, I've had 2500 lbs of rock (quarry scale
in/out) in it and the rear was just starting to squat on the secondary
springs. I've never checked out the front under loaded conditions, but
with the short bed most loads are centered on the rear axle anyway.

> I'm working on a tech page for how to install the front springs (took a few
> pics when I did it), but its for a 4wd ... should be similar, but not quite
> the same for a 2wd I would guess ... I'll let ya'll know when that's up and
> running if you're interested.
>
We're always interested :-)
- --
Pat Brown
Sunny and warm at last in Sebastopol, California
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:24:36 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibration

Ted writes: >> I'm still here with a shaking truck. The center bearing
definitely needed replaced, but it didn't solve the problem. The only time it
does it is when it's in gear and moving. It stops when I let up on the gas.
Since it stops when I let up, the guy that worked on it seems to think the
driveshaft(s)?are out of balance. Seems logical.
The only problem is finding someone around here that balances
driveshafts.This small town life does have its disadvantages. Any other thoughts
or suggestions are needed and greatly appreciated.

Ted !!! If the Vibration stops when you let off the gas, then it must be in
the rearend!!!! I don't see how it could be the driveshafts, because just
because you let up off the gas it is still turning at the same speed
(relatively). It will slow down, but gradually - not suddenly enough to stop a
vibration of the nature you are describing. I'd start looking at something
else. Maybe put it up on jack stands and block the front really well and spin
the rear end up by putting it in gear and very slowly reving her up till the
vibration starts and look under it from the rear(spinning her forward) and see
if anything is jumping up and down or if I can isolate it by the sound

Hope you find it..

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:27:54 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Long"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio?

CJ,
About the town you found on 62... the first town you talked about in your
message... did you find what town you where looking for? I'd like to know
what town it is.... I may be able to help you figure what town it was
also... I'm from that general area.

Rob Long
'78 F-250 4x4, 400M, 4spd, 4" lift

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:13:10 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration

At 03:24 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote:

All right you guys, here's the answer, I think. What you seem to have is a
slip yoke problem. I had the same problem on my F100 and it seems the slip
yoke vibrates. It doesn't vibrate when it's not under power, cause the
grease takes up the slop and the thing centers itself.

If you load your tail down so the angle of the yoke changes, you'll notice
a change in the vibration, probably for the worse. A new slip yoke is the
answer.

marko

>Ted writes: >> I'm still here with a shaking truck. The center bearing
>definitely needed replaced, but it didn't solve the problem. The only time it
>does it is when it's in gear and moving. It stops when I let up on the gas.
>Since it stops when I let up, the guy that worked on it seems to think the
>driveshaft(s)?are out of balance. Seems logical.
> The only problem is finding someone around here that balances
>driveshafts.This small town life does have its disadvantages. Any other
thoughts
>or suggestions are needed and greatly appreciated.
>
>Ted !!! If the Vibration stops when you let off the gas, then it must be in
>the rearend!!!! I don't see how it could be the driveshafts, because just
>because you let up off the gas it is still turning at the same speed
>(relatively). It will slow down, but gradually - not suddenly enough to
stop a
>vibration of the nature you are describing. I'd start looking at something
>else. Maybe put it up on jack stands and block the front really well and
spin
>the rear end up by putting it in gear and very slowly reving her up till the
>vibration starts and look under it from the rear(spinning her forward)
and see
>if anything is jumping up and down or if I can isolate it by the sound
>
>Hope you find it..
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:17:35 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable

At 02:34 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>Drew writes: >>Oh yeah, it's a '67 F100 with a 390 and breaker point
>ignition. The points and condenser are only a month old.
>
>Did your needle start jumping about the same time as you installed the new
>points/condenser????
>
>If yes, then I would be examining them.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>

Hey,

Bear in mind that in a chain, or any system for that matter, when you
strengthen some components or links other weak links begin to show up. A
hotter spark from a new cap, or points, or rotor, or condenser, or coil,
will show up bad wires.

Maybe you loosened a wire or two when you popped the cap off. Maybe the
cap has developed a crack.
If you used new components, then chances are they're just underlining other
weaknesses in your system which weren't evident before.

Kinda like a 15lb cap on an old radiator!


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:30 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Differentials

At 09:08 AM 12/04/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Thanks for your message at 11:02 AM 4/12/99 -0400, TracyJones cinergy.com.
>Your message was:
> >A limited slip or a locker will turn both tires the same direction.
>>
>>AFAIK FORD never put a true "locker" in any light truck.
>>
> How about limited slip? I know they are fairly available in light trucks.
> It seems like we went through this some time ago, but I would like to see
>somewhere, sometime, a list of which rear ends came in which year and which
>size trucks. I always wonder where the rear end in my Blue '62 (3.25
>limited slip) came from. Original equipment? A car?
>Just curious...
>
>
>Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA
>
>1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
>1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
>1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
> I shortened this to only FT's

My 67 mercury M-100 has a limited slip Dana 44 in the back.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:15:53 -0700
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibs

Thanks Azie 8^) Checked a couple of spares I had layin around and you're
right. Can't put em on wrong. Wonder if I put the wrong one back in
though??? Guess when I get some free time I'll tear it down and see.
Smeck,
79 F100
FTE "Brain Trust"
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From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
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Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 12:29 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibs


>Steve Schmek writes: >>A previous thread, about the 302 being externally
>balanced, got me thinkin' I probably didn't index the flywheel on right.
Can
>anyone please tell me how to index the flywheel?
>
>Steve, I'm not at all familiar with the 302, but on all other Ford engines
that
>I am familiar with, the Flywheel will only mount one way. The bolt holes
aren't
>much off, but there is only one way the FE's and the 385 series will bolt
up.
>You can't mount the flywheel wrong on these engines, and I'd venture to
guess,
>this is true of the 302 also.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:39:36 -0400
From: Joel Minsky
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Muffler and differential

Hi. I'm new to the list.

John LaGrone wrote:
>
> My conclusion so far is that I have a locker differential, not a true
> positrack.

I would have to agree with the other people who responded that you have
an open differential. I'm confused as to what you mean by a *true*
positrack. I thought positrack was the GM name for a limited slip
differential. That is one that allowed the wheels to rotate at different
rates going around corners but limited the difference in torque going to
opposite wheels by means of a clutch or something. They're sometimes an
option on trucks.

On the other hand a locking differential does just that, it locks wheels
so they turn at exactly the same rate. They make noise in tight corners
and can cause tires to wear quicker and are an after market thing.

Hope this helps. Sorry I don't know what all the stamping on your diff.
means, that was your question.


===============================================================
Joel Minsky
'79 F-150
joel_minsky email.com
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:47:49 -0800
From: "Terry Pendergrass"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Electrical Problem - Coil Ballast?


- --

On Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:23:04 William S Hart wrote:
>At 10:02 AM 4/7/99 , you wrote:
>>Thanks for replying on this. I am going to have to get a
>>clearer picture of the relationship between the coil, points,
>>and condenser.
>>
>
>Here's my understanding of it ... when the points are together (closed), a
>current flows from the vehicles electrical system and charges the capacitor
>(condenser) ... then when the points break, there is a charge stored in the
>condensor which is discharged through the coil windings, which in turn
>steps up the voltage so that the dist can point to a cylinder and fire its
>spark plugs.....

I just got through reading an article in the May 1999 issue of "Classic Trucks" called Ignition Basics. I am not sure if that is exactly right, but it is close, if it's not.

>
>Now that I've said all this, it doesn't seem quite right ... does the
>condenser charge when the points are opened or closed ? hmmm...hafta
>lookin the book tonight I guess ... after I dig that up I should be able to
>get you a fairly detailed explanation ....
>
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>wish
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: brian michael logan
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Gas leaking from carb

I'm a little slow on the draw.....


Take the wooden/plastic end of a screwdriver and tap on the carb right
next to the inlet hose. Do this while there is still some pressure in the
fuel line.

Tap firmly but NOT like you're trying to pop out a kingpin.

It's usually a piece of c# p that came through the line post-filter.

I think chunks of fuelline rubber were chunking off and sticking in the
bowl's valve seat.... causing it to stick open and overflow the carb.

Tapping on the carb will free it up. It's cheaper than a teardown and
rebuild.




> Check the needle and seat that controls inlet fuel to the bowl. sounds like
> its sticking.
>
> mike baker
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:04:06 -0400
From: "Ted & Sarah Freeman"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors

Marko,

Glad your back!

I have a question for ya'. You redid an original 410, didn't you? What
were the colors for that motor? I picked up some 410 decals this weekend at
a swap meet for the 410 Marauder and the decal was gold. Is the breather
and valve covers gold on the Mercury? TIA.

- -Ted
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Marko Maryniak
To:
Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tach unstable


> At 02:34 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >>>Drew writes: >>Oh yeah, it's a '67 F100 with a 390 and breaker point
> >ignition. The points and condenser are only a month old.
> >
> >Did your needle start jumping about the same time as you installed the
new
> >points/condenser????
> >
> >If yes, then I would be examining them.
> >
> >Azie
> >Ardmore, Al.
> >
>
> Hey,
>
> Bear in mind that in a chain, or any system for that matter, when you
> strengthen some components or links other weak links begin to show up. A
> hotter spark from a new cap, or points, or rotor, or condenser, or coil,
> will show up bad wires.
>
> Maybe you loosened a wire or two when you popped the cap off. Maybe the
> cap has developed a crack.
> If you used new components, then chances are they're just underlining
other
> weaknesses in your system which weren't evident before.
>
> Kinda like a 15lb cap on an old radiator!
>
>
> marko
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:26:35 -0400
From: "Matthew Schwartz"
Subject: Re: Subject: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name?

Well, I bought a 76 Ford F250 Supercab. After a downhill wild ride in
neutral, my hunting buddy named it "Rolling Thunder" and the name has stuck.


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:37:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration

Ted
does your trk have an auto or man. trans?
and does the thing vibrate out of gear or in neutral when the trk is
sitting when you rev up the motor? cause if it does, either your
flywheel assembly is out of balance or your flex plate is bent. ck the
service
cover to see if the flex plate is bent or the
pressure plate maybe loose
just a thought
Eric aka
The FORDMAN

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:03:54 -0400
From: Scott
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Heater core installation

I have a 1970 F100 ranger with air conditioning. I need some pointers =
on removing and installing a new heater core. I have the Heater core =
itself, what other parts do I need before starting in.. (ie. Hoses =
etc.)

Scott E.
Winston-Salem, NC

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:42:44 -0500
From: "Ted Stringfellow"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - vacuum lines

Does anybody have any photos that show the connections and routing of the
vacuum lines for a 1978 351M in a F150? The Chilton manual doesn't hav this
one listed and the drawings aren't detailed enough to quite do the trick.
Actually, I'm trying to figure out which ones I can plug so I can strip out
all the emission controls and make maintenance simpler.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:57:46 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors

At 09:04 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Marko,
>
>Glad your back!
>
>I have a question for ya'. You redid an original 410, didn't you? What
>were the colors for that motor? I picked up some 410 decals this weekend at
>a swap meet for the 410 Marauder and the decal was gold. Is the breather
>and valve covers gold on the Mercury? TIA.
>
>-Ted

Hey, Ted.

The original color for the air cleaner was Old Ford Blue. Really.

I am painting mine Endura semi-gloss black, however. It will look nasty
with the gold sticker. Nice snowflakes on it, huh? Or are they asterisks?


marko

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:03:51 -0600
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410 colors

At 09:04 PM 12/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Marko,
>
>Glad your back!
>
>I have a question for ya'. You redid an original 410, didn't you? What
>were the colors for that motor? I picked up some 410 decals this weekend at
>a swap meet for the 410 Marauder and the decal was gold. Is the breather
>and valve covers gold on the Mercury? TIA.
>
>-Ted
>

Oh yeah, the motor was the same color. I've painted mine again, a slightly
darker shade of blue, closer to new Ford blue. Looks a bit better I think.

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:05:25 -0400
From: Walter Ford
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Englishtown Swap Meet

I am not sure if anyone has suggested this, and I am probably far behind,
but since I am sure that more than a few of us will be in Englistown, NJ
this weekend, we should all get together and swap our Ford stories, since
this is a "Swap Meet". And maybe one of you can help me name my truck,
since after 2 years I still cant name it.

Walter
78 F-150 4x4 351M 4 on-the-floor

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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:49:36 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hills? In Ohio?

There's a place in Shelby,OH called the Car Corral. Looking at Mapquest, it shows 61 going into Shelby. That's the only place I can think of. Other than Hartmans, but that's in Bluffton which is southwest of me on I-75.
The mystery continues!!
Ted

> About the town you found on 62.


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