61-79-list-digest Wednesday, April 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 118



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Re:K1 in diesel and elecrical problems
FTE 61-79 - Kroil
FTE 61-79 - Tranny and axle swap
FTE 61-79 - 390 Flywheel
FTE 61-79 - Spring spacers - Thanks
FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-Jection4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin' a C4
FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name?
FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-Fast Turn signal
FTE 61-79 - 98 Carlsile All-Truck Nationals
FTE 61-79 - shaking truck
Re: FTE 61-79 - Kroil
Re: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 98 Carlsile All-Truck Nationals
FTE 61-79 - Big Block FI
FTE 61-79 - State laws and Regulations
FTE 61-79 - Carter carbs./Vibration

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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:K1 in diesel and elecrical problems

K1 in Diesel
You could use pulverized coal in a diesel if you could
inject it into the cylinder in the right proportion.
#2 diesel fuel is about the heaviest that can be
injected reliably. Generally the heavier the fuel the
higher the energy/mole, hence best mileage. #1 fuel is
lighter and easier to use in cold climates. K1 is
kerosene sold for use in kerosene heaters. K1 can be
used to thin heating oil when the tank is outdoors and
it is too cold to flow properly. It will also thin
diesel fuel as will corn oil etc. However lower energy
products produce lower mileage. Adding K1 to diesel
could be to thin the fuel for cold weather or as
mentioned to beat taxes.

Electrical problem
6 Volts is the correct reading when the points are
closed and engine not running. oints open should be
battery voltage. Engine running will be 9 - 10 volts.
Your problem is an intermittent short. This could be
the condensor or points or stray wire inside the dist.
or cracked insulation in wiring. Check your dist and
wiring.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:30:39 -0400
From: "John Peck"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Kroil

Back a month or so ago we was talking about Kroil. I ordered it from Kano
labs and it is the best stuff ever. The donut on my exhaust went out.
Kroil loosened the nuts right off. Been trying for weeks with WD-40 and PB
Blaster. I didn't even have to twist hard. Other hardware such as on the
mirror I was afraid to tackle but Kroil loosened them right up in 2 minutes.
The many response and talk ups on Kroil made me bye it. I bought the
starter kit which comes with 1 gallon, 1 aerosol and squirt pump. I use it
at work to loosen hard grease and other stuff. Thanks to everyone who
supported it and helped my decision to buy. Next up is the pretonix
(spell?) ignition. Catalog is on the way.


John Peck
johnpeck visuallink.com

69 F100 360

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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:41:49 -0400
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tranny and axle swap

Will the tranny and rear axle swap out of my 79 F100
SuperCab into my 77 F100 Flairside. If so how hard is
it and can a shadetree like me do without too many
problems? TIA

We are getting to get BUSY here!!!!
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William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:47:08 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390 Flywheel

I think what Bill is saying in correct, but watch out: he's the same guy who
put his crank in backwards the first time around.....(sorry Bill, couldn't
resist).....

CJ
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:21:22 -0400
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Spring spacers - Thanks

Thanks to everyone for the assistance with
my spring spacer problems. I've gotten a
couple of exploded views from some list
members who are fortunate enough to have
shop / parts books. I'm now well on my way
to stress-free reassembly. After all, what
could be more restful than bolting together
all of these clean, freshly painted Ford truck
goodies? Vrroommm, vroom!

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 ( Lunar Green and growing!)
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:05:40 -0700
From: "Steven Salas"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Holley Pro-Jection4

Hi All, Well I went ahead and spent the $200 for the Projection4. To
those of you who responded to my initial post, Thanks for the input. I will
keep the list informed as to how this thing works (good or bad). This is an
early unit (analog), so I'm sure theres been some improvements made to the
newer models. I guess what I'm hoping for is somekind of gain over the carb.
As for the person who responded from Iowa, I am in northern California so
hopefully I won't experience the problems with temperature changes as you
mentioned. Unfortunately I noticed the temp. sensor is missing, so I'll
have to order that before this experiment can continue. Again thanks to
all, your responses are what make this list so cool.
Steve



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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:14:29 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Smokin' a C4

Deacon, How is it all going with the C4 repair???? And in case you are
wondering, I will personally have you inducted in the FTE hall of shame, er
uh I mean fame if you build it in the motel room!!! One question, will you
have the bellhop carry it to your room or will you do it yourself???
hehehehehehe

8^)

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu


> I was driving my '73 F100 302 C4 the day before yesterday when the
>trans let out a loud yelp and began slipping like a bad dog. I pulled
>over and let it cool down a bit then limped it to the house. It didn't
>make anymore noise but all three gears continued to slip. It felt like
>driving a big boat with a little prop. Lots of engine but slow to go.
>Hey, I knew it was toast so I didn't worry about causing more damage. :]
>External inspection revealed trans fluid as dark as motor oil from a
>Chevy engine. Second was the presents of trans fluid in the vacuum
>modulator. This trans has never given me any problems. There was no
>indication of a problem. Prior fluid checks showed normal to the point I
>was going to change the fluid and filter (slight discoloration no fluid
>loss). Shifted from 1st to 2nd to 3rd solid right up to the time it
>fried. Any thoughts on it's failure? I plan to rebuild it. If I rebuild
>it in the motel do you think it will nominate me to the FTE Hall of
>Fame? :) Good bathtub (not mine) clean environment. May cost me a
>marriage but to be honest, she's not all that pleased with me anyway. :]
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:15:40 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name?

I was just curious how many of you guys' trucks have acquired pet
names and what they might be. I'm not talking about when you scream "Stupid
SOB, piece of horse dung" everytime you skin your knuckles either.
For example, my '79 F-150 Supercab has been named "Ruby". My
girlfriend christened the old truck with this name based on the maroon-like
color. The name just kinda stuck, so now all references are directed to
"Ruby". This helps though because now I can sweet talk the old girl
whenever I think she needs some attention (truck, not girlfriend). Oh, it
also helps so my girlfriend can report back to me that, "heeheee... I
backed Ruby into a Honda in the parking garage today."
So what about you guys? Names? Anyone?


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:36:20 -0700
From: Art Verling
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-Fast Turn signal

Brad,
I would first clean the connectors in the lamp holder. If that wont fix
the problem then I would check the ground wires to be sure that the are
tight and don't have any funny connections. The reason for the fast
flash is high current draw. The high resistance causes a higher than
normal current draw and the flasher heats up too quickly and it changes
states too fast. You may also try a heavy-duty flasher like you would
buy for towing a trailer.
See Ya
Art Verling
AV ix.netcom.com
64 F100
Reno, NV
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:40:49 -0400
From: "Tim Green"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 98 Carlsile All-Truck Nationals

Added new page to web site tonight.
1998 Carlisle All-Truck Nationals page.
www.ctel.net/~oldfords
or www.ctel.net/~oldfords/TruckShow98.htm
to go directly to the new page.
The very first pic on the page is a very nice 66 Ford Good Humor truck, and
there's lots more FTE content. A few enemy pics too, but that can't be
helped.

Enjoy,
Tim
66 F-100 428 P.I. (Screaming Yellow Zonker)
55 Mainline 289 (The Flivver)
87 Mustang 2.3
81 Mustang 2.3
87 F150 4.9


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:50:19 PDT
From: "steve potratz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - shaking truck

> I'm still here with a shaking truck. The center bearing
definitely needed replaced, but it didn't solve the problem. The only time it does it is when it's in gear and moving. It stops when I let up on the gas. Since it stops when I let up, the guy that worked on it seems to think the driveshaft(s)?are out of balance. Seems logical.
The only problem is finding someone around here that balances
driveshafts.This small town life does have its disadvantages. Any other
thoughts or suggestions are needed and greatly appreciated.

Ted
Bellevue,OH>

Ted: Does your truck have the 9" diff? If it does the source of the shaking could be the pilot or pinion bearings in the 3rd member. Or it could be the spider shafts inside. The pinions are easy to check on the 9". Where the yoke mounts to the spline there is a small flange with 5 or 6 bolts. Pop that baby off and pull out the pinon. Make sure that you do not loose the shims that space the pinon in the hole. They set the depth of the pinion. If the pilot is shot a machine shop can turn it down and sleeve it for you. This shouldn't cost much ($25 to $40). If the pinon is messed up it is time to hunt the wrecking yards for a different set of gears. With the pinon out, look inside the center at the spider gears and check for broken pieces. The reason I am guessing this might be the problem is the intermittant nature of the noise. With the power "on" every thing is bound up tight, but you let off the gas and things loosen up and make noise. I've had 12 rigs with the 9" over the last 20 years and have had to replace the bearings on 3 of them when they had about 120k on them.
Might be worth checking.


Steve
Moscow, Idaho

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:56:44 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Kroil

Hey John,
Send some more info on where to check this stuff out.

Ted
John Peck wrote:

> . I ordered it from Kano
> labs and it is the best stuff ever.
> Catalog is on the way.
>
> John Peck
> johnpeck visuallink.com
>
> 69 F100 360
>
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:59:23 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What's your truck's pet name?

Mine took about 2 seconds to come up with "The BEAST"

Thanks for asking,
Bellevue Ted
Dale Frenz wrote:

> I was just curious how many of you guys' trucks have acquired pet
> names and what they might be.


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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:01:07 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 98 Carlsile All-Truck Nationals

Tim Green wrote:

> Added new page to web site tonight.
> 1998 Carlisle All-Truck Nationals page.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ctel.net/~oldfords
> or http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ctel.net/~oldfords/TruckShow98.htm
> to go directly to the new page.
> The very first pic on the page is a very nice 66 Ford Good Humor truck, and
> there's lots more FTE content. A few enemy pics too, but that can't be
> helped.
>
> Enjoy,
> Tim
> 66 F-100 428 P.I. (Screaming Yellow Zonker)
> 55 Mainline 289 (The Flivver)
> 87 Mustang 2.3
> 81 Mustang 2.3
> 87 F150 4.9
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:46:22 CDT
From: "Shane Bevel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Big Block FI

Damn I hate it when I open my big mouth before thinking things through
all the way. I made the mistake of posting that a friend of mine is
selling a DFI that will work with our trucks. While all the hard parts
will work, the harnesses and computers were designed for GM ignition.
Sorry to get everybody hyped, but I will get the info on who made the
unit and where to find pricing for Ford ignition. Sorry to those who
replied. Also I will see if he is willing to split the system. That
way you can buy the throttle body from him and the computer from
Accel. Please don't banish me forever :)

Later,
Shane


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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:49:10 -0700
From: John Lord
Subject: FTE 61-79 - State laws and Regulations

I found this great site for all you Americans wondering about automotive
regulation changes in different States.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sema.org/consumer/fedleg/
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:10:54 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carter carbs./Vibration

"I found that the next time i will go for Edelbrock their are only 6
different 4 BBl's they all use the same kits, trick parts are easy to
find and if all else fails in a pinch you can use parts from some Carter
4bbl's."

My experiance has been that Carter and Edelbrock parts interchange
but Carter carbs. and parts are less expensive.

"If the drive shafts are out of balance than it would shake whenever the
shafts are spinning and would get worse with increasing shaft rpm."

Had the clip that retains the U-joint cup fall out a few years ago.....


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