61-79-list-digest Thursday, April 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 111



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Bias Ply Blues
FTE 61-79 - Married Cases
Re: FTE 61-79 - Serial numbers
RE: FTE 61-79 - Bias Ply Blues
FTE 61-79 - Divorced/married
FTE 61-79 - Tampa to Denver, Via Omaha and Cozad and Blinking Lights and Zip Ties
Re: FTE 61-79 - Personal Choice
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76 Ford Steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjustments question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Master Cylinders
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oregon Law about Oldies
FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights
Re: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights
Re: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights
FTE 61-79 - electrical woes
FTE 61-79 - Engine swap charge
RE: FTE 61-79 - Drive train noise and vibrations - new U-joints ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjustments question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap charge
FTE 61-79 - The Never Ending Story
Re: FTE 61-79 - The Never Ending Story
FTE 61-79 - Re: blinking headlights
FTE 61-79 - Blinking Lights
FTE 61-79 - York compressors
FTE 61-79 - parking brakes
FTE 61-79 - Van Interiors
FTE 61-79 - Blinking Headlights.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oregon Law about Oldies
RE:FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights
FTE 61-79 - re: Blinking headlights
FTE 61-79 - Re: Bending Tubing
FTE 61-79 - Carb or Fuel Pump Woes
FTE 61-79 - 67-72 factory AC for sale.
FTE 61-79 - '78 351M vacum stuff
Re: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights
FTE 61-79 - Re: blinking headlights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Master Cylinders
FTE 61-79 - Newbie
FTE 61-79 - Non-blinking turn signal amber lights....

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:11:28 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bias Ply Blues

> I have '76 F-150 with about 53,000 original miles that I constantly have
> to be watching and correcting or it will wander all over the road. It
> has never been in an accident that would have bent the frame and I knew
> the previous owner for most of those years and he took good care of it.
> He did put some heavy traction bias ply tires on the back with regular
> bias in the front and said it was the worst thing he ever did, but
> didn't feel free to change tires as he was retired and had to watch his
> money. I plan to replace the tires with radials pretty soon, but was
> wondering if there was any other reason that would cause this problem
> with wandering? I understand that '76 and '77 Fords had the inverted "y"
> steering which left a lot to be desired and have seen a kit advertised
> that would convert the steering to the other more desireable type. Any
> info or suggestions would be appreciated about this problem.

Change tires first. It will likely drive like a dream then. Ford front
ends are tough, so at this mileage, if it isn't log road miles, the only
thing you might look at real hard are the lubrication points(grease them
up) and the rag joint. If your tie rod ends are loose, replace them.
They probably are OK if they've been greased. The different steering
types apply to 4X4s, yours is fine.

Bias ply tires are awful things to run, and the traction tires are
likely belted, so it's alot like mixing radials and bias. Change them
ASAP, especially before you look any further for a problem.
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:16:56 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Married Cases

>
> The "divorced" transfer case does indeed have a short driveshaft between the
> Transmission and the transfer case and it does have a U-joint at each end, as
> well as a "splined slip" joint in it, like all fixed end mount driveshafts do.
> The "married" slang is when the transfer case and transmission are mounted
> together rigidly by some adapter, and no driveshaft. Any F250/F350 4X4 priotr
> to mid '77 will have the divorced transfer case, and I don't know when the
> married cases went into production on the F100/F150's, but it was considerably
> earlier than the larger trucks. (probably '73, but that is a guess.)

The married case in the F100's began in '65 with the single speed Dana
21.
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:39:14 -0500
From: Joe Delaurentis
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Serial numbers

Jake and Dee wrote:
>
> I seen a while back someone on the list that was able to decode numbers
> off of engines.I have a friend with a problem.He needs to know the year
> of his 302.He has given me his numbers from the engine.On the intake
> manifold the number he found was D5DE-9425-6A.On the block he found
> 4G31Y and on another metal plate bolted to the block he found 4629. Can
> anyone help us out with finding the year of the 302 he has.
>
> Jake in B.C.
> 65 250 camper special
> Flat Black and still going
> 351c
>
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The D5 Number on the intake stands for 1975....Ford used an alphabet
system for the years..ie. "C" is the 60's "D" is the 70's etc...
Joe
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:07:43 -0500
From: TracyJones cinergy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Bias Ply Blues

> ----------
> From: ballingr ldd.net[SMTP:ballingr ldd.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 7:11 AM
> To: Ford Truck Enthusiasts
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bias Ply Blues
>
> > I have '76 F-150 with about 53,000 original miles that I constantly have
>
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> > with wandering? I understand that '76 and '77 Fords had the inverted "y"
>
> > steering which left a lot to be desired and have seen a kit advertised
> > that would convert the steering to the other more desireable type. Any
> > info or suggestions would be appreciated about this problem.
snip
I would only do the linkage swap if your inverted "y" linkage is
shot, otherwise spend your money on new radius arm bushings (poly), tires
and an alignment, in that order. Don't let a "QuickTire" place do the
alignment, ask the boys at your hometown parts house about a good frame shop
that knows Ford front-ends.
snip

> The different steering
> types apply to 4X4s, yours is fine.
>
Not true, some 2wd use the upside-down "y" linkage.

Good luck

Tracy

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:54:39 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Divorced/married

Hey Azie, thought I would jump in....my 69 F-100 4x4 had a married setup....so
they must have changed somewhere between about 65 and 69....I guess...

CJ
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:54:53 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tampa to Denver, Via Omaha and Cozad and Blinking Lights and Zip Ties

Hey Matt,

Didn't see any Cozads in Cozad, sorry!

The SAC musuem is "Strategic Air Command".....they had an SR-71, B-36, etc...

About the blinking lights, this was happening on my 67 during this trip, and
it turned out to be the switch was not making good contact with the harness
connector. I could see where this could lead to head buildup as someone else
here experienced...all I had to do was bend the contact tabs slightly to
provide a little more friction and push the switch connector back
together....then, with help from Mr. Grant, I used a zip tie around the whole
switch/connector assembly to keep it together....

CJ


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:01:56 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Personal Choice

Thanks for your message at 08:43 PM 3/30/99 -0600, William L. Ballinger.
Your message was:
expect all to
>live by the credo of Marx and Hegel... a Ford truck?...> >
You don't dare eat the
>fish, even here 150 miles south. This is wrong.
.
>Soon it'll be Farenheit 451 brought to life.

I ate fish in my Ford Truck yesterday...it was really hot...


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:05:53 -0600
From: "John R. Austin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76 Ford Steering

Wow! I've been looking for a solution to this problem for years. I'll give
it a try. Thanks.
John
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From: O'Connor
To:
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Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76 Ford Steering


> Daniel,
> I had a 79 Ford that wandered and I was constantly adjusting the steering
> wheel. Of course the Ford dealer said that there was nothing that could
be
> done. Wrong! I took it to a place that had a great reputation for doing
> front ends on all makes. They told me that Fords with Twin "I" Beam
> suspension are notorious for this. Since I had power steering, he
> recommended that the caster be set at the high end of the tolerance abour
> 5.75 degrees. He claimed that the only difference that I would notice,
> since I had power stering, would be turn at slow speeds. He was right!
> The higher caster let it go down the road and track without even touching
> the wheel. I noticed a little more resistance when turning at slow
speeds;
> but with P/S, it was no sweat. It made a truck that was a constant
> anoiyance into something that was liveable. It was worth every penny and
I
> recommend it be done immediately. Good luck and keep us informed.
> Tim
> 352 F100 SWB
> 3 speed, P/S and O.D.
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:26:47 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjustments question

>Looking at my Mustang, it is quite clear how camber, caster and toe-in is
>adjusted.
>on my Truck, I can only figure out toe-in.
>How do they adjust the others?

On the 4wd's they have offset ball joint spacers ... can't remember what
they're called, but basically it screws in around the top of the ball joint
and the hole is off set so that they can twist it around. As for the 2wd
... I don't really know, on the old ones I've heard you had to heat and
bend the straight axle to change the camber too much ... don't know that it
really is adjustable. On the twin I-beams, maybe there's a bushing on the
end of the I-beam that lets it rotate eccentric like ?


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:30:50 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Master Cylinders

At 07:04 PM 3/30/99 , you wrote:
>I could be wrong, but I believe the only difference is in the proportioning
>valve.
>

Actually the reservoirs are different sizes (more dramatic on discs than on
drums), also there may be differences internally, such as piston sizes and
such ... I'd probably give it a shot, but be sure and wear a seatbelt when
testing it ... you may do a face plant, or if hooked up backwards you may
drag the rear for a bit ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:38:22 -0600
From: Don Yerhot
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oregon Law about Oldies

I'm from Minnesota but I really think this potential Oregon law could
affect all of us. I too would be SOL if I couldn't drive my old
classics. Here's the locations for both the House and the Senate.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.senate.gov/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.house.gov/
Keep on truckin!

Don
65F250-351W-435NP
74F100-360-3 on the tree-8 ft stepside

Re: FTE 61-79 - Oregon Law about Oldies

The one big problem I found with this law change is that there are
alot
of really low income people who could barely afford to drive there old
car/truck. I can barely keep my head above water right now, and I just
rebuilt the engine in my 79 ford van. If they where to pass a law like
that
then I would have to basically quit my job because I would have no way
to
get there, then what? Out on the street because I can't go buy a new
car
with good emissions? My newly rebuilt 351w probabily puts out less
emissions then quit a few cars built today. By passing this law the
economy
is Oregon will simply drop. Its not about people who love old cars who
won't be able to legally drive there trucks that they cherish anymore.
It
will be about people who are suddenly without a car, and no money to buy

another. Just the thought that someone would even think this up just
pisses
me off. Probably some rich a**hole who could care less about the lower

income residents. Sorry for that, I am just getting angrier and angrier

about this. BTW, I live in Utah, but I have lived in Oregon.



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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:53:52 PST
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights

Thanks for the replies. I'll try changing the switch and see what that
does.

Has anyone tried the "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" relay system?
Does it really improve them that much? I've been thinking of doing it
if it would be an improvement.

Thank you for your help.

Marty
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:02:14 -0600
From: "Brett"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights

I installed the relay system. It works awesome!! My lights basically went
from brown to bright white. I still have the stock type headlights installed
also, no halogens yet. I have a small write up on my webpage, you can see I
put all the relays and circuit breakers in a small black box in the engine
compartment. I also used circuit breakers instead of fuses.

Brett
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>Has anyone tried the "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" relay system?
>Does it really improve them that much? I've been thinking of doing it
>if it would be an improvement.
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>Marty


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:19:03 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights

MARTY COLMAN wrote:

> Thanks for the replies. I'll try changing the switch and see what that
> does.
>
> Has anyone tried the "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" relay system?
> Does it really improve them that much? I've been thinking of doing it
> if it would be an improvement.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Marty

Yes it is a big improvement. With the addition of halogen bulbs it's even
better. I ran mine and just plugged the relays into the dimmer switch so I
can easily return them to stock, never will, but just in case.

Laters

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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:48:39 -0700
From: Bret Godfrey
Subject: FTE 61-79 - electrical woes

Hi, I am the one with the 77' f-250 4x4 with a new cab. I thought I had
my truck wired correctly but two days ago it wouldn't start, after
trying for a few min I checked the coil and it was hot to touch. I am
not sure, but I think I must have been powering my coil through a hot
lead the whole time the engine was running instead of just when the
engine was starting. I found the resistance wire under the dash and
piped it into my coil's hot lead, the engine still wouldn't start. Is
there any way to test a coil and ignition module to see if they are good
or not?


Thank you,

Bret
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:26:24 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap charge

Hello all, I have been asked by a friend of mine to help a guy out with an
engine swap. I was hoping some of you would have an idea what to charge on
this. Its going to be the same engines, one from a junkyard that runs, one
that doesn't run and is in a truck currently. Sorry I can't really relate
it to FTE ... wait, we'll use my truck with the rebuilt 390 to haul the
engine and or other truck ... yeah that's it! :)

whew, that was close ...

If any of you could help me out that'd be great ...


Thanks,
wish
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:28:51 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Drive train noise and vibrations - new U-joints ?

Any reputable driveshaft rebuild shop should be able to do it, Rick

Where did you get your driveshaft balanced? I's love to get that done!

Brad
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:03:00 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering Adjustments question

William S Hart wrote:
>
> >Looking at my Mustang, it is quite clear how camber, caster and toe-in is
> >adjusted.
> >on my Truck, I can only figure out toe-in.
> >How do they adjust the others?
>

You can get offset radius arm bushings for a degree of caster. You can
get 2 degree caster kits that go in lower part of radius arm, but need
to be bored to fit in. I don't see anything for camber. I had thought
they had camber/caster bushings for 2WD's, but I guess not. I guess you
still have to bend it for camber.

OX
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:10:49 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine swap charge

Thanks for your message at 10:26 AM 3/31/99 -0600, William S Hart. Your
message was:
>Hello all, I have been asked by a friend of mine to help a guy out with an
>engine swap. I was hoping some of you would have an idea what to charge on
>this. Its going to be the same engines, one from a junkyard that runs, one
>that doesn't run and is in a truck currently. Sorry I can't really relate
>it to FTE ... wait, we'll use my truck with the rebuilt 390 to haul the
>engine and or other truck ... yeah that's it! :)

Recently I asked a local mechanic that I've been going to for years how
much he would charge to pull the engine out of one vehicle (let's call it a
Ford truck) and put it into another (which would also mean removing that
vehicle's engine). He quoted me $1000.

I think I'll do it myself.


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:17:18 -0700
From: John & Iva McKay
Subject: FTE 61-79 - The Never Ending Story

Hi All,

Just finished installing the new cam in my remanufactured 360.
I didn't follow the pre load procedure for the valve train the
first time and it came back to bite me. The end result was bent
push rods and the cam lost the hardness on #7 exhaust lobe.
This lobe is now a nice round lobe and the lifter was severely
cupped.
I remembered sometime back someone mentioned being able to do
this without removing the intake manifold. Didn't remember
where the article was, but decided to try it. Worst case was I'd
have to remove the manifold anyway. I was able to remove all the
lifters using a magnet w/extension that can be bought at any
auto parts store for a couple of bucks. That was the easy part.
Putting the lifters back in was an exercise in patience, dexterity,
and blind luck. #'s 1,7 & 8 were the toughest (especially #1!).
Having the water pump, fan and radiator out of the way left me plenty
of room to stand inside the engine compartment while I did this
which made the job easier. Try that with your newer trucks !
Any ways, it's all back together and running fine so far. But as the
subject line says..............

John L. McKay
Mesa, Arizona
'67 F100 Custom Cab
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:24:11 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - The Never Ending Story

Glad it all worked out .. never heard the trick with the manifold
installed, though if any motor could do it, I would bet on the FE's with
that goofy setup they've got ...

>Just finished installing the new cam in my remanufactured 360.
>I didn't follow the pre load procedure for the valve train the
>first time and it came back to bite me. The end result was bent
>push rods and the cam lost the hardness on #7 exhaust lobe.
>This lobe is now a nice round lobe and the lifter was severely
>cupped.

Wow, guess I'll be sure I get it all pre loaded right when I do it this
time ...

Good luck, hope things hold together for you ...

Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:25:28 -0600
From: "Jamey Moss"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: blinking headlights

Marty Colman wrote:

> ...
> I had a simmilar thing happen once last summer and it turned out to be

> the wires at the rear were shorting against the frame. So naturally I

> checked that first, but it was okay. Last year I replaced those and
> covered them with rubber hose where they go through the frame.
>
> I've been thinking about rewiring my headlights with relays like the
> "Whiter Whites and Brighter Brights" tech article on the FTE site.
> Would this take care of my problem?


I had the same thing happen to me last year, but only when using the
high beams. The problem turned out to be a bad ground at the headlights
from the plug to the inner fender. When the low beams were on, the poor
ground could handle the current, but when the high beams were turned on,
the bad ground couldn't handle all of the current, and it acted like a
floating ground. The relay inside the headlight switch was clicking
away and the switch was getting warm. I replaced the headlight switch
with a new one from Ford, and it did the same thing. Then I replaced
the hi/low beam switch, but the problem was still there. I was so
frustrated that I was about to rewire my headlights like Steve's
article, when I decided to try cleaning the ground connection where the
ground wire from the headlight plug screws to the inner fender (or
radiator support, I don't remember where exactly but that's not
important). Anyway, that fresh clean ground connection on each side
worked perfectly and my blinking headlight problem was gone.

This is a cheap fix if it is the problem, and when you clean the ground
connection to nice shiny metal, I recommend putting some silicon grease
on the metal to protect against corrosion so this doesn't happen again.
BTW, I later did the whiter whites rewiring, and it brightened up my
headlights noticeably (thanks Steve).


Jamey
ra4001 email.sps.mot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:26:10 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Blinking Lights

I have had this happen on more than one truck.
Each time a new switch cured the problem.
It seems to be a trait of these old trucks.
Gives 'em character I guess.
-srw

Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'65 F100


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:57:35 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - York compressors

OK gang,

All of this talk about York compressors has me wondering. How do I check
the oil in the sump? My air conditioning system is close to being totally
discharged, so that isn't a problem. Actually, that's why I wanted to know.
I am going to go have the Freon replenished and wanted to check the oil
level beforehand. TIA.

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:58:10 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - parking brakes

>>My parking brake handle will not fully release the brake on my 77
F250. Is there a way to by-pass the handle to release the brake?

Martin,

The foot part of the brake mechanism engages a ratcheting device in a set
of teeth that you can see. If you examine the unit carefully, you might
find the right thing to trip with a SCRWDRIVER. Don't stick your finger up
in there. Otherwise, under your truck along the frame rails is the
emergency brake cable. Somewhere in the cable is an adjustment section that
looks like a turnbuckle. You should be able to loosen the cable enough to
release any pressure that the cable is keeping on the shoes. You can even
disconnect the emergency brake at this adjustment. This should also allow
you to leave enough slack in the cable the other direction so that you can
drop the in cab unit and disconnect the cable from it while doing repairs
or replacement. I believe my cable adjuster is 2 or 3 feet forward of the
rear axle.

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:27:38 -0800
From: Al Evitts
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Van Interiors

Guys: Does anybody still make and sell the custom interior pieces for
van interiors? I mean the wall boards and door panels in the rear cut
outs. They used to sell kits of fiber board that you could make your
own kind of covering for or use carpet. I need the fiberboard pieces
for the walls of a 78 short wheelbase econoline. Any help out there?

Al
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:57:05 -0500
From: "John Peck"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Blinking Headlights.

I had the same thing quite awhile ago. That was when the Truck list first
start. The final fix was replacing the headlight switch. There is contact
breaker inside the switch and when it heats up it causes your lights to go
out for what seems like an eternity (about 5-10 seconds). When the breaker
cools down it makes contact again turning on the lights. The switch cost
about nine or so dollars at the local parts store and swapped out real easy.
Hardest part is unscrewing the retaining bezel without scratching it. They
make a tool for this. The cable contact block is a no brainer to reconnect.
Never had a problem since then.

By the way does any have any tips on bending steel line for fuel or brake at
severe angles? The little tube bender I have doesn't seem to wanna work
without creasing the tube on the fuel line coming from the pump to the carb.
I hate having that restriction and am worried it may break.



John Peck
johnpeck visuallink.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:00:04 -0800
From: "Jeff Towne"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oregon Law about Oldies

At first I was sure this had to be a misprint or misinterpretation of the
proposed legislation.
But after doing a few minutes research sadly it is not.

Real simple. If this bill passes then, as of Jan 1 2010, you will not be
able to license a pre-1981 vehicle in the state of Oregon for normal
everyday use unless it meets certain undetermined as of yet emmisions
requirement OR is classified as a "vehicle of special interest".

Even the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia has realised that 30 year old
vehicles, no matter what state of tune, are so few that they are not even
worth wasting the testing resources over. Just build a few "emmisions
cleanup" dollars into the licensing fee and forget about them.

Here is a link to the proposed legislation:
gopher://gopher.leg.state.or.us/00/measure.dir/House_Measures/hb3200.dir/hb3
217g.int%09%09%2B


jeff towne
65 F250 CS

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:32:38 -0500
From: "MICHAEL ROGERS"
Subject: RE:FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights

>I was coming home with a load of lumber in the dark the other night
>(with my lights on bright) and after about 10 miles all my lights began
>to blink off and on. I dimmed my headlights and from then on the
>headlights stayed on constant, but all the other lights blinked off and
>on, the entire 60+ miles home.

I had an identical problem after placing my 65 F-100 back into servicefrom a
three year outside storage period. The culprit was the wiring harness
connection at the fire wall.

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:14:28 -0500
From: Daniel Maxwell
Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: Blinking headlights

Found this out when I removed an old set of fog lights. There is a circuit
breaker in the switch that automatically resets and breaks, flashing the
lights. found the wire, tape, problem cleared. Just my 2 pennies.

>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:23:53 PST
>From: "MARTY COLMAN"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights
>
>I was coming home with a load of lumber in the dark the other night
>(with my lights on bright) and after about 10 miles all my lights began
>to blink off and on. I dimmed my headlights and from then on the
SNIPPED
>Marty
>73 F100
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:51:35 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Bending Tubing

In a message dated 3/31/99 4:07:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
johnpeck visuallink.com writes:

>
> By the way does any have any tips on bending steel line for fuel or brake
at
> severe angles? The little tube bender I have doesn't seem to wanna work
> without creasing the tube on the fuel line coming from the pump to the
carb.
> I hate having that restriction and am worried it may break.
>
There is no substitute for the right tools and patience. The hand benders
like the one I have from K-D comes up short on the heavier diameter tubing for
real short-tight bends. You might consider having something custom bent for
you if you don't want to spring for a more expensive bender. Try this place
Classic Tube at www.classictube.com. They manufacture stainless brake lines
for many vehicles and supply other custom steel lines. Maybe they can help
you. Good luck.

~~Thom B~~
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:02:27 -0500
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carb or Fuel Pump Woes

My 77 302 finally decided it was going to stop
running. It will fire up and idle for awhile and when
you put it in drive it will sputter out. Put back in N
it will fire up and rev up but the minute you put it
into drive it dies again. I know the truck has sat for
awhile before I got it. Can there be something in the
tank, fuel line, or fuel pump and why does it stall out
when put into drive? TIA

- --
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F100 CUSTOM FLAIRSIDE 302
79 F100 EXPLORER SUPERCAB 302 (PARTS TRUCK)
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:18:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 67-72 factory AC for sale.

Deal of a lifetime for someone looking for factory
air for a 67-72 F100 is on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts
classifieds. Someone has it, complete with wiring,
underdash unit and all the underhood items for $200,
shipping included.

Let the stampeed begin......

Ken Payne

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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:19:00 EST
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '78 351M vacum stuff

I went over the maze of vacum lines on my truck today trying to find a
possible vacum leak and found some things I hadn't noticed before.

Back by the C6 dipstick was a black plastic cylinder about the size of a vacum
motor that had three nipples on it. The nipples were coverd by a heavy rubber
manifold sort of deal that the vacum lines fed into. The 3 nipples were
labeled A,R, and O? or maybe C?. "R" went to the vapor cannister and "O/C?"
went to a metal vacum motor looking thing wearing a foil tag with a bunch of
numbers on it. The thing is that "A" appeared to be open to the atmosphere -
no hose and no indication that there had ever been one. What is this thing
and should it be this way?

The other thing is that behind the EGR is a vacum manifold that supplies the
brake booster, among other things. It has one nipple that looks like it goes
to the vacum modulator on the tranny and two others that are connected to each
other - I guess it's the same as being plugged. These are things I've had no
reason to mess with since I bought the truck in 1990 and have no way of
knowing what might have been factory, but I don't think the two nipples should
be connected to each other when they have the same source. It seems more
reasonable to think they were originally capped off. Am I missing some vacum
parts or are these two nipples just excess?

Any thoughts on all of this would be greatly appreciated.

Ben Williams
'78 F-250 4wd
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:15:33 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - blinking headlights

At 07:53 AM 3/31/99 PST, you wrote:
>>
>Has anyone tried the "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" relay system?
>Does it really improve them that much? I've been thinking of doing it
>if it would be an improvement.
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>Marty
>
We put it in my son's truck (79 F-250), dramatic difference!! Plan to do it
to all my trucks, but I'm looking for different type of fuse block. I
prefer blade type fuses.

Stoney

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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:19:02 EST
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: blinking headlights

Marty -

I once had a similar problem on my '78. It was probably a result of too much
time spent driving too fast on logging roads. No headlights makes it harder
to dodge the moose. That might explain why me head bobs around like one of
those dogs in the back window of grandpa's car. For a while I thougt it was
triggered by the more violent bumps in the road and tested the theory by
driving faster to make the road jar the lights back on. I tested that theory
for a whole summer. Didn't work. Anyway, I replaced the dim/bright switch
and haven't had a problem since. I also live in the desert now and don't see
too many logging roads. It would be a fairly cheap experiment if it doesn't
help.

Ben Williams
'78 F-250 4wd

It was written:

>I was coming home with a load of lumber in the dark the other night
>(with my lights on bright) and after about 10 miles all my lights began
>to blink off and on. I dimmed my headlights and from then on the
>headlights stayed on constant, but all the other lights blinked off and
>on, the entire 60+ miles home. There was no rhyme or reason to the
>blinking, not over bumps or stopping or turning.
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:38:41 -0800
From: "Doug Neely"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Master Cylinders

There is a residual pressure valve in the drum/drum m/c, it's located
in behind the fitting the tubing flare mates to on the m/c.On disc/drum
the is no valve in the front reservoir otherwise the front pads would
drag.You can use a drum/drum for disc/drum by removing the valve
using a small screw in the brass flare seat and pulling it out, then
take out the valve and replace the flare seat.Unfortunately this is the....


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