61-79-list-digest Friday, March 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 104



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - While at the F-100 Nationals
Re: FTE 61-79 - While at the F-100 Nationals
FTE 61-79 - P.A.W. web address
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging system Questions
FTE 61-79 - RE: sway bars on '65s?
Re: FTE 61-79 - gas
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging system Questions
FTE 61-79 - Selecting oils...
FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:43:32 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - While at the F-100 Nationals

when is the f100 nats? look up my buddie's trucks while you are there. dave
chain has a 68 f100 lwb, sits in the dirt, with big fat mickey thompsons
stuffed up in the rear fenders and a 390 .060 over with 2 fours. truck was
white and turquoise with some primer on it the last time i saw it.
also keith crowley maybe there, he has a 68 swb, with big fat tires stuffed
in the rear also, it has a 428 with a toploader four speed. runs strong, its
blue, a real nice ride.

thanks, jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 22:56:45 -0600
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - While at the F-100 Nationals

At 11:43 PM 3/25/99 EST, you wrote:
>when is the f100 nats?

May 13th thru the 16th.

look up my buddie's trucks while you are there. dave
>chain has a 68 f100 lwb, sits in the dirt, with big fat mickey thompsons
>stuffed up in the rear fenders and a 390 .060 over with 2 fours. truck was
>white and turquoise with some primer on it the last time i saw it.
> also keith crowley maybe there, he has a 68 swb, with big fat tires stuffed
>in the rear also, it has a 428 with a toploader four speed. runs strong, its
>blue, a real nice ride.
>

I remember slobbering and drooling all over Dave Chain's beasty truck
last spring! FE's should be in art museums they are so nice to look at!
Especially his truck and the purple 56 with a 427 SOHC in it.

Oh the stuff dreams are made of!!!

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:12:49 -0800 (PST)
From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - P.A.W. web address

hey ,
somebody wanted the web site address
for P.A.W. so here it is
www.pawinc.com
Eric

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:28:49 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging system Questions

In a message dated 3/25/99 8:19:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
TWiltzius SPPC.com writes:


is screwed down to the fenderwell with one of the corner mounting screws for
the reg. What is this for? Do I need it? >>

It is there to minimize arcing and radio noise from the points in the
regulator. It will work without it, but if you have it, use it, the regulator
may last longer and your radio will be happier.
Burt Hill Kennewick Wa 1972 F250 4x4 460
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:31:26 -0500
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: sway bars on '65s?

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>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:41:15 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Sway bar for a '65 F100??

Does anybody know if they ever put sway bars on '65's?

Sam, =

As aftermarket bars go, I just put a Hellwig
bar on the front of my '67 which should be
nearly identical to the front end on your '65.
There wasn't a listing for trucks earlier than
73, but I bought the '73 bar and it fit just fine.
If you want more info, e-mail me for details.

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (currently in 3456 pieces)
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:24:42 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - gas

Michael Siron wrote:
>
> Brian Logan writes: >>I'm running the skinny stock wheels and tires until the
> price of gas goes down.
>
> Azie writes:>> That might be an awfully long time, brian.
>
> My two cents:>> According to news stories, gas has recently been at its lowest
> average cost in history, adjusting for inflation.

Yup, it's low, but here in the SF Bayarea, gas is skyrocketing. One of
the (Four?) refineries in the area was shut down a few weeks back after
an explosion left four workers dead, another still in critical
condition.
This morning, I paid $1.499 for regular, filling my Broncos (large) tank
for about $45. Ouch. This afternoon, another explosion, this time at the
Chevron refinery, will most likely take that one off-line. I suspect gas
will be pushing $2/gallon real quick. . .
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Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 22:22:25 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging system Questions

Tom asks:
> The charging system in my 62 came from a 68 along with the 360 engine.
> There is a yellow wire that comes from the moulded connector on the
> BAT wire that also goes to the A terminal on the regulator (Similar
> to delaney's drg). At the reg there is another yellow wire connected
> onto the A connector that has a barrel connector plug on it. this
> plugs into a capacitor (condensor) that has a ground tab on. This tab
> is screwed down to the fenderwell with one of the corner mounting
> screws for the reg.
>
> What is this for? Do I need it?

It's a radio noise suppression cap. Not necessary, but may help out
for reception on your original AM radio :-)

> Should I replace it along with the reg?

I would, and I bet Stu would, too :-)

> I found an instrument cluster from a 64 or 65 that will fit perfectly
> in my 62. It appears to have all of the original gauges and lights on
> it. In the left meter hole is an ammeter. the back of the ammeter has
> two large wires to it (10g ?). How does this meter get connected to
> the charging system?

Hmmmmm. Anyone know if this is a shunt-type of ammeter (ala 68-on)? It
will make a big difference as to how it would get hooked up. Tom, did
you get the complete alternator harness from the '68? If you did, it
will have the now-infamous shunt wire in it, you may be needing it.

Alright, if it is a shunt-type meter, you'll need the original harness,
or build your own shunt. The shunt is a low value resistor, built into
the original alternator harness, made of a piece of copper wire. The
two large wires on your alternator connect to each end of the shunt.
Jim Elliot posted a good description of how his was hooked up a few
months back, check in the archives. It seems the factory shunt was
a bit too small, so the deflection on the ammeter leaves a bit to
be desired. You have to have a good imagination to see mine move.

If your meter is not a shunt-type or it is an aftermarket meter, then
the hook up is a bit easier. You could use a diagram for your truck,
but we can probably guess here. There are three circuits you are
interested in, they most likely are joined at the starter solenoid.
1) The battery, 2) the charge line from the alternator ("BAT" term)
to the battery, and 3) The power feed to everything else. What you
need to do is isolate the battery cable from the rest of the circuits,
then connect the two ammeter leads to these two points. That way, all
the current flowing into or out of the battery will flow through the
meter, with the notable exception of the starter motor current. NOTE:
if this connection is made with the wrong type of meter, it will be
fried!
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Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:42:16 -0500
From: Joe Hartwell
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Selecting oils...

James,

I am an engineering student at Virginia Tech, and I am taking a course on=
Engine and Powertrain technology. In that course, we were told to look on=
the oil container for an index of its quality. There are ratings like=
SG/CD. This means for a Spark (gas) engine, the rating is G, and for a=
Compression (diesel) engine, the rating is D. The higher the letter after=
S, the better the quality, lubrication, protection, etc., for your gasoline=
engine.

As for the best of oils, from what I've learned and seen, this seems to be=
Amzoil (or is it Amsoil?). It is a synthetic oil that costs anywhere=
around $5 a quart to $7 or $8 a quart, and you have to get it through a=
dealer, not your local parts store. I was told that Jeff Gordon, who is=
sponsored by Quaker State and gets all the free Quaker State he can use,=
uses Amsoil (I'm not sure, but I think it's 0 W 30). Gotta be good stuff=
if he PAYS for it, instead of using what he gets for free. Additionally,=
there is a man who has run it in his Dodge Cummins Diesel engine as an=
experiment for 175,000 miles without changing it, and every 5,000-10,000=
miles he sends a sample of the oil to a lab to be tested. Results have=
shown that the oil still hasn't broken down, and doesn't have enough=
metallic pieces to be changed. In other words, after 175,000, with regular=
filter changes, this oil is still good!

Well, enough about that. Just check the ratings, and buy as high a rating=
as you can afford, and you should be fine.

Joe Hartwell
1988 Ford Ranger
1968 Ford F-100
Virginia Tech Student of Electrical Engineering


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:01:11 -0800
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

I was talking to the counter man at Summit the other day and he
said he has never heard one complaint or had one return on a
Petronix unit.Says they sell a lot of them.BTW they now have one
that will replace a Unilite unit in a Mallory.
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