61-79-list-digest Thursday, March 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 103



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - RE:vacuum
FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?
FTE 61-79 - RE360/390 pistons
Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
FTE 61-79 - gas
FTE 61-79 - Fw: Old Ford Trucks
FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition
FTE 61-79 - Are all oils creatied equal?
FTE 61-79 - WOW!!! ELECTRONIC IGNITION FOR OLD FORDS!!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition
FTE 61-79 - Fw: Old Ford Trucks
Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
FTE 61-79 - 360/390 Pistons
Re: FTE 61-79 - AC pumps
FTE 61-79 - 460 won't turn
FTE 61-79 - Re: 91 ignition
Re: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition
FTE 61-79 - 77 f150 coil springs
FTE 61-79 - HELP!! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
FTE 61-79 - spinnig tie rod ends
FTE 61-79 - seat belt installation...
Re: FTE 61-79 - 77 f150 coil springs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Are all oils creatied equal?
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE360/390 pistons
FTE 61-79 - 360/390 pistons
FTE 61-79 - Hacksaws and nut splitters
FTE 61-79 - Intake Tips?
FTE 61-79 - Ign switch
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hacksaws and nut splitters
FTE 61-79 - Location
FTE 61-79 - Re: EVAP stuff (what year did it start)
FTE 61-79 - Tunnels
FTE 61-79 - 460 Locked up
FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging system Questions
FTE 61-79 - 360/390 pistons
FTE 61-79 - 460 locked up
FTE 61-79 - replying to FTE list
FTE 61-79 - tire bumper heights
FTE 61-79 - Horn wiring and location...77 F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition
FTE 61-79 - 71 power steering into my 73
FTE 61-79 - 460 MOTOR MOUNT Stanchion LOCATIONS?
Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
Re: FTE 61-79 - AC pumps
Re: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?
Re: FTE 61-79 - EVAP stuff (what year did it start)
Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP!! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
FTE 61-79 - Sway bar for a '65 F100??
Re: FTE 61-79 - EVAP stuff (what year did it start)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?
Re: FTE 61-79 - EVAP stuff (what year did it start)
FTE 61-79 - RE:non-turning 460
FTE 61-79 - While at the F-100 Nationals

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:00:29 -0500
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:vacuum

Spaz,
If you are getting zero vac at idle and only
7 in. at higher rpms, I'd say you are hooked
up to the ported vacuum source instead of
a manifold source. At idle, your manifold
vacuum should be between 17 and 21if the
engine is healthy. Lower readings could
indicate low compression, retarded timing,
or a vacuum leak somewhere. If you get a
reading that changes either regularly or
irregularly, it may indicate carb adjustment
problems or valve problems. These are
just a few ways you can use your vacuum
readings to get a feel for your engine. Hope
this helps. Find a manifold vac source and
let us know what it reads.

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (currently in 3456 pieces) =

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:52:10 -0600
From: "Hicks, Adam"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?

This is a long one, but it might be worth your reading!!!

I'm going to be buying a house soon, and unfortuantely need to part with my
'77 F-150. I've put alot of time and money and love into the truck, and
hate to see it go. My problem is, I don't have any idea what to ask for it.
I hope someone here can help me out...

It's a 1977 F-150 Custom Red / White / Red. It's a standard cab long bed
with a 460 / C6. It has BRAND new: heads, edelbrock performer 460 manifold,
Holley Quadrajet 750 electric choke vacuum secondary (this was a non-egr
truck - thank God), Mallory high perf. coil, Ryder VST shocks, starter,
pads, shoes, rotors, bearings, huge Duralast battery, plugs, 8mm wires,
dist. cap. A few weeks ago I had the exhaust ripped out from the exhaust
manifold down and had all new 2 1/2" aluminized mandrel bent pipe ran, with
dual Flo-Pro mufflers dumped right before the rear axle. I gave over $300
for the (very professional) exhaust work. (The truck did not have catalytic
converters, and they are not required for this year.) I've installed a much
nicer Sony stereo, new window channels, all new speakers, all new mirrors,
etc. The Heads / Manifold / Carb work was done by a 25 year+ engine builder
who used all Fel-Pro gaskets, and highest quality parts.

The body is in great shape. Never been wrecked, no rust... a dent at the
front quarter panel, but shallow and not very noticable. The paint job is
less than a few years old. It's a really nice truck! The interior is in
very good condition as well. It could use a new rubber floor mat, but the
dash, doors and gauges are all perfect.

The truck runs / drives / brakes (!) excellent. It purrs like a kitten at
stop lights, but it'll leave you behind if you're not careful! I've really
enjoyed the project.

It needs a good set of tires, and every time I don't drive it for over a
month, the battery drains and I have to jump start it. After that, as long
as it is started every 2-3 weeks, it's just fine. This is probably a relay
sticking or something, I just don't have the time to fix it.

I've put over $3000 in the truck, not including the purchase price. I think
any of you guys would be proud to own it. I'd like to get near $3000 for
it. I hear the 'trailer special' models (which it is) are a bit more
uncommon. Is this a fair price to ask? I could post pictures with my
digital camera if it would help...

Thanks for all of your help throughout my ownership of the truck!
Adam Hicks
Ft. Worth, TX
Adam.Hicks ppctx.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:57:44 -0600
From: JOHN E DOLSON
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE360/390 pistons

>
>From the ones I've torn down, they're identical. Flat-tops with 4 valve
>reliefs. They just come up lower in the cylinder.

Hence my comment about running oddly, lower in the cylinders would have
lowered the compression in 3 of them by quite a bit ...
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My 360 also had five 360, slipper skirt pistons, and three 390-4V slipper
skirt pistons. I checked the pin hieght by putting 2 pistons ( one marked
360, and one marked 390-4V) on the same wrist pin, side by side. Both
pistons had the same pin height, they were the same pistons, they just
had different casting numbers.


John Dolson
Jefferson City, MO.
1976 F150, Ranger XLT

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:28:38 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over

In a message dated 3/24/99 7:37:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mschwartz fast.net writes:


thing I added to the engine tonight was bolting on the flex plate.
>>

Is one of the flexplate bolts going through the flexplate and the crankshaft
flange and contacting the block?? One time I changed from a flywheel to
flexplate and used the flywheel bolts, they traveled through the crank flange
and locked up against the block. If you did not convert to an auto tranny
this is not likely, but one bolt might accidentally be just a little bit
longer.
Burt Hill Kennewick Wa 1972 F250 4x4 460
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:40:46 -0800
From: Michael Siron
Subject: FTE 61-79 - gas

Brian Logan writes: >>I'm running the skinny stock wheels and tires until the
price of gas goes down.

Azie writes:>> That might be an awfully long time, brian.

My two cents:>> According to news stories, gas has recently been at its lowest average cost in history, adjusting for inflation.
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:17:26 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Old Ford Trucks

Forwarded for:

I own a 1979 Ford F-250 camper special 4x4 pick-up with a 351M motor. I have a 1974 Ford F-250 2 wheel drive parts truck also. I would like to know a couple things. First, how easy is it to switch cabs? Second, the 2 wheel drive truck has a 390 motor that I want to put in the other truck. How hard would that be? and can it be done? The 1979 4x4 has a C-6 automatic transmission and the 1974 has standard transmission. If anyone could answer these questions, I would be grateful. Thanks, Andy Edmiston

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:07:33 -0800
From: "Bill Deacon"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

Anybody out there have any comments about Petronix electronic ignition
conversions? I am considering installing one on my '66 F-250. Any comments
pro or con would be appreciated. Your Pal, Bill


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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 01:10:18 -0700
From: "James Draughn"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Are all oils creatied equal?

Well, this weekend I am going to finally drop my 351W into my 79 van. But I
had a question. I could go to the store and buy oil that costs anywhere
from .79 to 3.00 or more a quart. Is there really anything to be gained by
buying this really expensive stuff? What is the differences between these?
I know there is a detergent oil but im still looking around with a blank
face. Any info and opinions on this would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 03:29:28 EST
From: Chezpip aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - WOW!!! ELECTRONIC IGNITION FOR OLD FORDS!!!

anyone interested in making the best investment ever, go with what i did...
Performance Distributors makes a GM like HEI unit they call DUI, Davis Unified
Ignition. Now, i run a 410 motor with high compression (stock 10.5 : 1) a
Erson 268 with .490 intake and .510 exhaust lift. A Holley tops the intake
manifold. I figure i'm, if anything, a little better than stock. However, i
never realized that the pesky pinging i got from point ignition could ever be
remedied, until i talked to the guys in Memphis, TN about the D.U.I. GUYS,
the LAST thing i want is CH*vy Parts on my true blue, but i can live with this
one. my truck couldn't run better and i didn't have to screw with buying a
seperate module and coil and run wires everywhere... like on the ford
duraspark. a 12 volt ignition source is all the wiring i had to do. trust me,
HORSEPOWER GAIN!!! who am I? just a nobody blowing away GMs and DODGEs with
my Kick Butt '72 3/4 ton EFFIE!!! Live Long True Blue! hey, if you want
prices and advice, please feel free to e'mail me directly, you don't even need
to be that serious!!! you'll love it, believe me... i do. phillip
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:49:17 EST
From: Rollie H Hunt
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:35:51 -0500 "Matthew Schwartz"
writes:

>I just took off my rebuilt 460 off the engine stand and mated it to a
>rebuilt C6. As I tried to turn the engine by hand to tighten the
>torque
>converter-to-flexplate nuts, I realized I could not turn the engine
>over.

I had this problem once and I found that there was a problem with the
flexplate not being installed correctly and it put pressure on the
crankshaft . Check to see if there is any crankshaft endplay , if not any
, I would say that something is putting pressure on the crankshaft ,
flexplate and or torque converter .

Rollie Hunt .

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:07:33 -0800
From: "Bill Deacon"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

Anybody out there have any comments about Petronix electronic ignition
conversions? I am considering installing one on my '66 F-250. Any comments
pro or con would be appreciated. Your Pal, Bill


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:17:26 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Old Ford Trucks

Forwarded for:

I own a 1979 Ford F-250 camper special 4x4 pick-up with a 351M motor. I have a 1974 Ford F-250 2 wheel drive parts truck also. I would like to know a couple things. First, how easy is it to switch cabs? Second, the 2 wheel drive truck has a 390 motor that I want to put in the other truck. How hard would that be? and can it be done? The 1979 4x4 has a C-6 automatic transmission and the 1974 has standard transmission. If anyone could answer these questions, I would be grateful. Thanks, Andy Edmiston

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:51:42 -0500
From: Norm
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over

It would be my guess that the torque converter is not properly seated on
the input shaft! Take the tranny back and get in there and wiggle the
converter around! I will almost guarantee this is the problem! Hope this
helps!
Norm


>On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:35:51 -0500 "Matthew Schwartz"
> writes:
>
>>I just took off my rebuilt 460 off the engine stand and mated it to a
>>rebuilt C6. As I tried to turn the engine by hand to tighten the
>>torque
>>converter-to-flexplate nuts, I realized I could not turn the engine
>>over.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:51:55 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 360/390 Pistons

> Hence my comment about running oddly, lower in the cylinders would have
> lowered the compression in 3 of them by quite a bit .
Actually, they are all the same compression height as far as I know.
The crowns are the same for the most part, and the rest of the piston
too, the only difference being that some 360's used a solid skirt
piston. The 390 flat-top piston is functionally the same as the 360
piston. The 360 uses a rod that is 6.54 as opposed to 6.488 for the
390.
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:21:05 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - AC pumps

Don Grossman wrote:
>

>
> York is the pump or line of pumps. York made pumps for Ford, Chev,
> Dodge, and many others but they are all basically the same except for size
> and design changes over the years. I have one on my truck that I use for
> air tools and air bag helper springs. They are tough little units. There
> are 3 sizes that were available and are listed on Steves site. I have the
> middle one and find it supplies lots of air except at idle. Look for early
> 70's pickups with a/c for the mounting hardware and just about any car or
> truck from the mid 60's to late 70's for the compressor. I have found a
> few that someone else took off the motor to get to the heads.
>

A couple things to watch out for. Certain year idler pullies will not
work with certain year pump s9Taling fords). I tried to use a york pump
of a 69 351W with an idler and brakcet from a 79 Bronco. the pump fit
on no problem, but the clutch assembly was biger and would have hit the
idler pully mount. Also, from a what I understand, the york compressors
are rated at around 2 CFM 100 PSI. Mine fills up a 25 gallon tank to
100 PSI in less than 5 minutes.


OX

PS, if you really can't find one, I can probably snag you one next time
I'm in the yard. I see them all the time.
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:18:56 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 won't turn

> I just took off my rebuilt 460 off the engine stand and mated it to a
> rebuilt C6. As I tried to turn the engine by hand to tighten the torque
> converter-to-flexplate nuts, I realized I could not turn the engine over.
>
> I know that the engine turned over fine (by hand) a few weeks ago...but I
> did not check it prior to taking it off the stand tonight. The torque
> converter, seated correctly, turned easily prior to the mating. And the only
> thing I added to the engine tonight was bolting on the flex plate.
>
> Any easy checks before ripping the tranny off?

Is the converter seated in the trans? It might be cocked against the
front pump. I'd slide it back and seat it if you didn't do it before.
You'll wreck the front pump if it isn't right, and you crank it.

A 460 turns hard with the plugs in, especially new. Pull a few plugs and
see if it turns then.
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:56:08 PST
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 91 ignition

Brett-

I just did this to a 86 F250 last weekend, it should be almost identical
to yours. The key would turn the ignition on but would not go far
enough to engage the starter. It is a reletively easy fix. Take the
wheel off and the blinker switch. Pull the collar with key switch and
remove the two tilt pivots on either side of column. then engage the
tilt to get the section of the column loose and then you can get to the
pop-metal piece that is broken. It hooks the ignition rod to the key.
Then just put it back together. The part was just under $10 at the
dealership.

To remove the tilt pivots you need a small slide-hammer with a tiny fine
thread bolt in the end of it, we found the correct bolt and used a pair
of vise-grips to do the slide-hammer action, but a slide-hammer would
work better.

The only special tools you need would be the wheel puller and a slide
hammer. This pickup has cruise on the wheel and that isn't anything to
worry about, it's integrated into the wheel so when it pulls off the
cruise is apart too.

Marty
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:02:09 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

From: Bill Deacon

Hey, bill Deacon for what? I didn't buy anything! Oh, that's your
name isn't it. My bad. :)

>Anybody out there have any comments about Petronix electronic ignition
>conversions? I am considering installing one on my '66 F-250. Any
comments
>pro or con would be appreciated.

I don't know what engine you have in your truck so this may not apply. I
put a Ford Duraspark ignition in my '73 F100 that I got from Pick a Part
for $25.
I don't know anything about Petronix electronic ignitions. Mostly I
just wanted to do
my "bill Deacon joke". :)

Later!

Deacon
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:38:36 -0600
From: "Michael Ray Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 77 f150 coil springs

I'm going to replace the front coil springs in my 77 2wd f150 460. When I
began ordering yesterday, the place I decided to purchase from said that
there is not a specific spring listed for my truck. All the F150 springs
specifically excluded the 460. He did have springs listed for what he
thought would be an F250. The springs were for applications that had a GVWR
between 6200 and 7800 pounds. My truck would be at the bottom end of that
scale, so I ordered them. I don't mind if the springs are a little stiffer,
or even a LITTLE taller, but I don't want the truck to sit level like a 4wd.
Has anybody run into this same problem or had a similar experience?

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:20:27 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - HELP!! REBUILT 460 won't turn over

>Tonight I ran into a problem...I hope someone can help with an easy fix
>prior to me ripping things apart.
>
>
>I just took off my rebuilt 460 off the engine stand and mated it to a
>rebuilt C6. As I tried to turn the engine by hand to tighten the torque
>converter-to-flexplate nuts, I realized I could not turn the engine over.
>
>I know that the engine turned over fine (by hand) a few weeks ago...but I
>did not check it prior to taking it off the stand tonight. The torque
>converter, seated correctly, turned easily prior to the mating. And the only
>thing I added to the engine tonight was bolting on the flex plate.
>
>Any easy checks before ripping the tranny off?
>
I imagine you have to pull the trans because the most common cause of this
is not having the torque converter fully seated in the pump. So when you
pull the bellhousing up tight, it binds the converter nose into the pump
and locks up the whole thing. As long as you have not forced the engine to
turn, then you can just pull the trans, reseat the converter, and reinstall.

The way to tell if the converter is all the way in is to see if you can
cram your fingers in between the converter and the bell housing. If you
can, then the converter is not fully seated. Good luck and let us know
what you find.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:34:08 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - spinnig tie rod ends

I've had this problem in the past, I was able to usually get a jack under the
end of the tie rod and put just enough pressure on it to hold it in its taper
to get the nut off...

CJ
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:39:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Martin Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - seat belt installation...

I just bought a 77 f250 supercab.

It has the front shoulder harnesses but didn't have the buckles that
are attached to the floor.

I went to the junk yard and got a pair.

When I went t install them, I found that it has a newer floor board
weld in minus holes for the seat belt buckles.

What would be a good way to install?

Would drilling a hole and attaching with same size bolt lock washers
and a nut underneath be acceptable? (I want the seatbealts to work if
I'm in an accident)

or should I try to attach to seat mount (belts are short for that)

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated,

Martin




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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:43:14 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 77 f150 coil springs

>Has anybody run into this same problem or had a similar experience?
>

Acutally I've got the other one, I've got a 360/390 ford that I'm always
tryin to get parts for and they say well it lists for a 460, but not a 390
... I figure it might be good enough if its for a 460, but when it comes to
springs, go with the ones for a 390, the engine weighs the same, maybe a
touch more than the 460, so they should work fine for you.

As for the 3/4ton springs, hey they'll probably work fine too, no
gaurantees on ride quality (or lack of) though ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:46:42 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Are all oils creatied equal?

>Well, this weekend I am going to finally drop my 351W into my 79 van. But I
>had a question. I could go to the store and buy oil that costs anywhere
>from .79 to 3.00 or more a quart. Is there really anything to be gained by
>buying this really expensive stuff? What is the differences between these?
>I know there is a detergent oil but im still looking around with a blank
>face. Any info and opinions on this would be great. Thanks in advance.
>

Seems like there is an FAQ, maybe linked off of the FTE page ...

Anyway as long as you stick with a name brand oil, probably use the same
one all the time too, you should be alright. I'd shy away from synthetic
blends as I know 3 engines that can attribute seal failures to that, but
the full synthetics don't seem to cause a problem, though you will want to
break it in on dino juice ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:47:24 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE360/390 pistons

>My 360 also had five 360, slipper skirt pistons, and three 390-4V slipper
>skirt pistons. I checked the pin hieght by putting 2 pistons ( one marked
>360, and one marked 390-4V) on the same wrist pin, side by side. Both
>pistons had the same pin height, they were the same pistons, they just
>had different casting numbers.
>
neat, probably ran fine then ... just seems odd that they make such a big
deal in Christ's book about them being different, then to find the last
years that they aren't ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:04:38 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 360/390 pistons

Can't remember who originally wrote this: >>about pistons prompted me to tear
mine own. And much to my surprise I find 5 >> >pistons marked 360 and 3 marked
390 4 V.

Whomever> Would you measure the distance from the wristpin to the top of these
pistons and tell the FE lovers on this list what your measurements are(as well
as your reference points). I'm really curious about this. If you get the same
distance on the 360 marked pistons as you do on the 390 marked pistons, then the
compression would be the same(relatively speaking), but if you come up with
about .140" difference then it should have run rough. I'm totally confused on
this issue, as I've always thought those cast in #'s on the piston meant which
displacement engine you were working on, and I've been working on the FE's since
their introduction in '58.

Azie
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:17:56 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hacksaws and nut splitters

John writes: >>The nut splitter or a hack saw above the nut

Either sounds awfully agonizing to me!!! Neanderthal methodology!!

Azie
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:20:57 -0500
From: "Rusty Nail"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Intake Tips?

I'm putting on a performer manifold and a Edlbrk 600 cfm on my '77 400m this
weekend. Would like any hints, tips or things to watch out for when I do
this. Do I need to remove the distributor when I do this? Any
recommendations on gasket types.

Thanks for the input.
Rusty in KC
'77 Explorer 400m
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816.472.5988 ext.183
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:20:47 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ign switch

Bret Godfrey writes: >>sorry to get of the subject, but besides my 77' f-250
4x4 I also have a
91' f-150 4x4. Last night the ignition switch went out in my 91'.
From the little I understand about ignition switches you have to
disassemble the steering wheel and the blinker assembly to get to them,
is this something that can be done by me or should I take it to a
dealer. I called the dealer and they will sell me the actuator for $10
and charge me $140 to put it in. Any suggestions or comments would be
greatly appreciated.

This very subject has been discussed in detail on the 80-96-list just within the
last couple of weeks. Try them.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:26:25 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hacksaws and nut splitters

At 09:17 AM 3/25/99 , you wrote:
>John writes: >>The nut splitter or a hack saw above the nut
>
>Either sounds awfully agonizing to me!!! Neanderthal methodology!!
>

Grunt grunt ... grunt ...

Some of us don't have much fancy stuff and are reduced to hand tools ...
maybe someday when I own my own place I'll look at getting something with a
touch more power ...but then that's what the FE is for isn't it ... more
power rr.r.rr.rr...

:)


Just my 2cents

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:25:02 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Location

Bill Brox writes: >> I live in northern part of Norway.

My question is: How did a Bill Brox come to live in Norway???

Azie Magnusson (of Swedish decent)
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:30:50 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: EVAP stuff (what year did it start)

John LaGrone wrote:
> I don't know what year all that stuff started, but I'll bet that
> 78 is a mixture year .....

Ox,

Another data point for you.

When I had my carb re-jetted to pass WA emissions the owner of the
shop showed me the book he uses as a reference. It was "Chiltons
1993 edition, Emission Control Systems Application". Since I was
looking for another truck, he let me photocopy the years I was
interested in. This is what it says for '78. I suspect that
Bronco's were listed seperately but probably are similar to trucks
in the

BTW '74 has a canister in 6000 GVWR or less and 6001 or more in CA.

Mark in Southwest Washington
www.pacifier.com/~draco
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'74 F-250 Supercab

- ---------------

1978 Ford Trucks

GVWR 6000 or less Federal; GVWR 8500 or less California

FED CAL M A PCV TAC AIS EVP FR CAT EGR SPK
300 X X X X X X 1 X X X 2 3
302 X X X X X X 5 X X X 6 X
351M X X X X X X 8 X X X 6 X
351W X X X X X X 10 X X X 6 X
400 X X X X X X 12 X X X 6 X
460 X X X X X 13 X X X 6 X

GVWR 6001 or more Federal; GVWR 8501 or more California

FED CAL M A PCV TAC AIS EVP FR CAT EGR SPK
300 X X X X X X 5
330 X X X X X 5 3
351M X X X X X X 3 5 14 3
351W X X X X X X 3 5 14 3
361 X X X X X 5 3
391 X X X X X 5 3
400 X X X X X X 3 5 14 3
460 X X X X X 5 14 3
477 X X X X X 3 5 3
534 X X X X X 3 5 3

(1) Some engines use reed valve system only. Refer to
Emission Control information label
(2) Backpressure system or conventional system. Refer to
Emission Control information label
(3) Some engines. Refer to Emission Control information
label
(5) California only
(6) Backpressure system
(8) Except some Federal. Refer to Emission Control
information label
(10) Except some Federal vans. Refer to Emission
Control information label
(12) Except some Federal automatic transmission. Refer
to Emission Control information label
(13) Some California automatic transmission. Refer to
Emission Control information label
(14) Conventional system some engines. Refer to Emission
Control information label

FED - Federal
CAL - California
M - Manual Transmission
A - Automatic Transmission
PCV - Positive Crankcase Ventilation
TAC - Thermal Air Cleaner
AIS - Air Injection System
EVP - Evaporative Canister
FR - Fill Pipe Restrictor
OC - Catalytic Convertor
EGR - Exhaust Gas Recirculation
SPK - Spark Control

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:57:58 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tunnels

Darrell writes> > A 2X4 with 3 speed or automatic will not have it. >>

>>I dont think this is right, as my truck is a 2wd auto and has a removable
tunnel. I noticed this when I replaced the tranny.

I based my statement on the fact that I currently have a '79 and a '76 both 2wd,
that I've used to scavange parts from and neither of them have the removable
tunnel. As the old saying goes, " Henry used whatever was handiest at the time
of assy" I guess.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:05:59 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 Locked up

Matt writes: >>The torque converter, seated correctly, turned easily prior to
the mating.

Are you absolutely positive that the torque converter didn't slip forward and
"Unseat" during the mating process. Loosen the engine to tranny bolts evenly
all around until you have approx 1/2" space, and try to turn the engine again.
If it turns, the torque converter is not seated properly.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:09:17 -0800
From: "Wiltzius, Tom"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:Charging system Questions

Hi Gang,
Please bear with me as I'm sure that these are a questions that have been
asked.
The charging system in my 62 came from a 68 along with the 360 engine.
There is a yellow wire that comes from the moulded connector on the BAT wire
that also goes to the A terminal on the regulator (Similar to delaney's
drg). At the reg
there is another yellow wire connected onto the A connector that has a
barrel connector
plug on it. this plugs into a capacitor (condensor) that has a ground tab
on. This tab
is screwed down to the fenderwell with one of the corner mounting screws for
the reg.

What is this for?

Do I need it?

Should I replace it along with the reg?

I found an instrument cluster from a 64 or 65 that will fit perfectly in my
62.
It appears to have all of the original gauges and lights on it. In the left
meter hole is
an ammeter. the back of the ammeter has two large wires to it (10g ?). How
does
this meter get connected to the charging system?

Thanks in advance for any info,

Tom,
Reno,NV



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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:32:03 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 360/390 pistons

John Dolson writes: >> I checked the pin hieght by putting 2 pistons ( one
marked
360, and one marked 390-4V) on the same wrist pin, side by side. Both
pistons had the same pin height, they were the same pistons, they just
had different casting numbers.

That was what I was afraid I was going to hear. Now !!!!!!!! does anyone
following this thread know just exactly what the wristpin locations should
be(and I assume the measurement is from the top of the piston to the c/l of the
wristpin) on say a 360, a 390, and a 410?????

I just had a birthday and one of my gifts was the book on FE/FT's by Steve
Christ, but I haven't been all through it yet, so these may be in it. Does
anyone know for sure???

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:34:47 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 locked up

Burt Hill writes: >>Is one of the flexplate bolts going through the flexplate
and the crankshaft
flange and contacting the block?? One time I changed from a flywheel to
flexplate and used the flywheel bolts, they traveled through the crank flange
and locked up against the block.

I, too, did this once, but had forgotten it until I read this post.

Very good Burt.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:53:48 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - replying to FTE list

Aubrey,

To reply directly to the list, place the following address in the To: field
of your e-mail message:

61-79-list ford-trucks.com

If you reply with quotes as suggested and then don't trim your post, you
will incur the wrath of the FTE list king and queen for wasting bandwidth.
I always create a new message, then copy and paste the portion that I want
to quote and do another copy and paste with the subject. If copy and paste
is too much trouble, then..........

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:33:36 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - tire bumper heights

>>All you guys laughing at us poor NJ slobs, it's comin to a town near
you. Let the letter writing begin.

Ox, I'm not laughing, I'm crying. :=D7(

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:36:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Martin Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Horn wiring and location...77 F250

My horn is inop on the 77 F250 I just bought. Can someone talk me
through locating proper wiring and the horn itself (Can't find it,
it's probably not there) so that I may install a working horn.

Thanks,

Martin



_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:57:01 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

There was an extensive discussion on this a couple of weeks ago. You might
want to check the archives. There's also a write up and "how to" article in
the May issue of Fourwheeler magazine.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"


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From: Bill Deacon
To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 11:17 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition


>Anybody out there have any comments about Petronix electronic ignition
>conversions? I am considering installing one on my '66 F-250. Any comments
>pro or con would be appreciated. Your Pal, Bill



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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:45:09 PST
From: "MARTY COLMAN"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 power steering into my 73

I've found a wrecked 71 F100 2wd that I can get the power steering off
of. I would like to put it onto my 73 F100 2wd. The 71 has the parts I
need: pump, hoses, column and gearbox. But I want to be sure it will
all fit correctly before I start.

Will the 71 column fit into my 73, are the wires the same, or will I
need to do some rewiring?

The 71 is an auto and mine is a 4sp, will that cause any problems?

Will I need to use my 73 pitman arm or can I just use the one that is
already on the 71 box?

Will parts interchange from one column to the other, like blinker switch
and bearing/bushings?

Also the rubber that connects the column to the box is in pieces and
mine isn't too great either, can those still be bought from a parts
store?

Thanks in advance for helpin' me out.

Marty Colman
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:14:40 -0500
From: "Matthew Schwartz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 MOTOR MOUNT Stanchion LOCATIONS?

I pulled a 460 out of a 78 F-250 along with the Motor mount stands to put
in a 76 F-250. My question is what is the stanchion orientation? Tall one
mounted on the driver side? or is the tall stanchion mounted on the
passenger side?

I had marked the tall stanchion for the drivers side ( with the hard to get
at nut near the power steering unit body)...but maybe I got it wrong.

Thank you

Matt



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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:51:23 -0700
From: Mike Orendorf
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over


thing I added to the engine tonight was bolting on the flex plate.>>

I didnot see the original post, but I had the same problem when Ii first set my 460/C-6 up. Is yours an automatic or a stick?
If its an Auto, make real sure you got the torque converter hooked up right to the tranny.
It has to slide on, (rotate)click, slide in some more, (rotate)click again, either 2 or 3 times, I dont remember.

I only slid mine on one time (felt like it was on good, but wasnot) and after about a half an hour of trying to turn the engine over (wouldnot turn over at all) the transsmission fluid pump busted, and then everything turned over great. Of course, tranny was shot...hehehehehe.

mail me directly if you have more questions...

Mike
morendorf uswest.net

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:12:02 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - AC pumps

>This message is directed at Steve Delanty, but anybody that knows the
>answer could jump in anytime. I have been passively searching for an ac
>pump to install in my truck and turn into an air compressor, but don't
>seem to be having any luck. According to the instructions on Steve's
>website, the pump of choice is a "York". I can't find a York, but I have
>found a few Motorcraft that look just like the pump in the picture. Are
>these one and the same? Is "York" just the type of pump and Motorcraft
>is the brand?

Matt,
York is a brand name. York made zillions of 2-cylinder A/C pumps
for vehicles for decades and this style of pump which they made so
popular is commonly known as a "York type pump". This style of pump
is also made by other manufacturers.
Any similar piston type pumps you find are probably suitable for air
compressor use. The thing you want to make sure of is that it is a
type that has an oil sump to lubricate the pump. Most piston type A/C
pumps do. What you do NOT want is one of the round, rotary type pumps
or one of the round axial piston/swashplate type pumps. These rely on
oil being circulated along with the refrigerent to provide lubrication,
and they will die if used for an air compressor.
If you're finding pumps that look like the one in the pictures, that's
almost certainly the right thing.
Remember they come in several different displacements and you want to
get the biggest one you can. They look the same externally, the diffence
being in the stroke of the crank. You should be able to decode the size
from the tag. I told how to decode the York tag in my article, but I
dunno about other brands...


Steve
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

"There are no stupid questions... just stupid people."

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:37:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?

>
> This is a long one, but it might be worth your reading!!!
>
> I'm going to be buying a house soon, and unfortuantely need to part with my
> '77 F-150. I've put alot of time and money and love into the truck, and
> hate to see it go. My problem is, I don't have any idea what to ask for it.
> I hope someone here can help me out...
>
Adam, it sounds like a nice truck. I'll leave the pricing to people in
your area of the country, check the want ads, visit a few lots, etc.

But, consider this. If you're buying a house, you're gonna need a
truck! How else are you going to haul all those materials home
for your (well, her, or exactly, SWMBO) home improvement projects?
I mean, there's the new kitchen cabinets, gravel for walks, lumber
for the deck, etc. Think about it! We can talk her, errr, you can
talk her into it! :-)

FTC: A 77 F-150 will haul any of the above items just fine.

:-)
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:55:53 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EVAP stuff (what year did it start)

robert jasper wrote:
>
> John LaGrone wrote:
>
> > >> I guess I'm going to be fighting with the smog man next year when they
> > start looking for my EVAP stuff. That means I have to buy a new tank
> > too. What a pain in the butt!! Any other 78 owners out there that have
> > EVAP stuff. Do 77 Bronco's/pickups/vans have EVAP stuff.
> >
>
> My 78 has the evap canister on the battery side but only the carb is hooked
> up... no ports for the tank....
>

What would be the point of that? I thought it was mostly for gas tank
vapors. Is the tank original? I found JC whitney has tanks with and
without the EVAP valve. Thanks for the info.

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:20:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP!! REBUILT 460 won't turn over

John wrote:

[Matt can't turn over 460 after bolting up C6]

> I imagine you have to pull the trans because the most common cause of this
> is not having the torque converter fully seated in the pump. So when you
> pull the bellhousing up tight, it binds the converter nose into the pump
> and locks up the whole thing. As long as you have not forced the engine to
> turn, then you can just pull the trans, reseat the converter, and reinstall.
>
> The way to tell if the converter is all the way in is to see if you can
> cram your fingers in between the converter and the bell housing. If you
> can, then the converter is not fully seated. Good luck and let us know
> what you find.

And, with the converter unbolted from the flexplate, you should be
able to push it back into the tranny a quarter inch or so. If the
converter was solid against the flexplate after bolting the tranny
on, I'd take the converter out and inspect the oil pump drive
tangs carefully . .

Pat Brown
Glad to be home in Sebastopol, California
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:41:15 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Sway bar for a '65 F100??

Does anybody know if they ever put sway bars on '65's?
Any swaps that should work?
Thanks,
-srw

Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:55:10 -0600
From: "Michael R. Masse"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EVAP stuff (what year did it start)

James Oxley wrote:

> > My 78 has the evap canister on the battery side but only the carb is hooked
> > up... no ports for the tank....
> >
>
> What would be the point of that? I thought it was mostly for gas tank
> vapors. Is the tank original? I found JC whitney has tanks with and
> without the EVAP valve. Thanks for the info.
>
I was going to mention this also, that my 78 canister only got fumes
from the carb bowl, with no line back to the tank, but thought something
must of been disconnected. I went out and took a look tonight, and
there are no signs of any sort of line or bracketry which would of
connected the canister to the tank. Although I can not guarantee that
the tank that came with mine when I got it was original, when
considering the condition it was in, I'd be willing to bet that it was,
and it had no provisions for a vapor return line.

Considering that a carb is much more open to the air, with bowl vents,
and gas droplets still hanging around in the intake while a tank is
pretty much self contained, with the only opening being a small pinhole
in the gas cap to allow air to equalize the pressure as the tank
empties, I'd say this almost makes sense.

Also, didn't you say that your 78 factory service manuals have vacuum
diagrams? Do they show anything as far as how this should be hooked
up? I have a set of 78 manuals, and can't find any vacuum diagrams. A
number of other people on FTE have mentioned that the 78 manuals don't
have them, while the 77 and 79's do. If your set does have vacuum
diagrams I'd be curious to take a look at them.

Mike
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:59:25 -0600
From: "charlest"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?

How many people have owned the truck?? How many miles?(since rebuild?)
Does the new paint job sport the original colors?

I would love to see pics.
Wish it was a 4x4, though.

Charles Tyer
Houston, TX


- -----Original Message-----
From: Hicks, Adam
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 11:00 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?


>
>This is a long one, but it might be worth your reading!!!
>
>I'm going to be buying a house soon, and unfortuantely need to part with my
>'77 F-150. I've put alot of time and money and love into the truck, and
>hate to see it go. My problem is, I don't have any idea what to ask for
it.
>I hope someone here can help me out...
>
>It's a 1977 F-150 Custom Red / White / Red. It's a standard cab long bed
>with a 460 / C6. It has BRAND new: heads, edelbrock performer 460
manifold,
>Holley Quadrajet 750 electric choke vacuum secondary (this was a non-egr
>truck - thank God), Mallory high perf. coil, Ryder VST shocks, starter,
>pads, shoes, rotors, bearings, huge Duralast battery, plugs, 8mm wires,
>dist. cap. A few weeks ago I had the exhaust ripped out from the exhaust
>manifold down and had all new 2 1/2" aluminized mandrel bent pipe ran, with
>dual Flo-Pro mufflers dumped right before the rear axle. I gave over $300
>for the (very professional) exhaust work. (The truck did not have catalytic
>converters, and they are not required for this year.) I've installed a much
>nicer Sony stereo, new window channels, all new speakers, all new mirrors,
>etc. The Heads / Manifold / Carb work was done by a 25 year+ engine
builder
>who used all Fel-Pro gaskets, and highest quality parts.
>
>The body is in great shape. Never been wrecked, no rust... a dent at the
>front quarter panel, but shallow and not very noticable. The paint job is
>less than a few years old. It's a really nice truck! The interior is in
>very good condition as well. It could use a new rubber floor mat, but the
>dash, doors and gauges are all perfect.
>
>The truck runs / drives / brakes (!) excellent. It purrs like a kitten at
>stop lights, but it'll leave you behind if you're not careful! I've really
>enjoyed the project.
>
>It needs a good set of tires, and every time I don't drive it for over a
>month, the battery drains and I have to jump start it. After that, as long
>as it is started every 2-3 weeks, it's just fine. This is probably a relay
>sticking or something, I just don't have the time to fix it.
>
>I've put over $3000 in the truck, not including the purchase price. I
think
>any of you guys would be proud to own it. I'd like to get near $3000 for
>it. I hear the 'trailer special' models (which it is) are a bit more
>uncommon. Is this a fair price to ask? I could post pictures with my
>digital camera if it would help...
>
>Thanks for all of your help throughout my ownership of the truck!
>Adam Hicks
>Ft. Worth, TX
>Adam.Hicks ppctx.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:24:17 -0600
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EVAP stuff (what year did it start)

I have a charcoal evap canister from a 72 Effie if anyone needs it to help
pass the smog Nazi test! Just pay me shipping charges.

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu

>> > >> I guess I'm going to be fighting with the smog man next year when
they
>> > start looking for my EVAP stuff. That means I have to buy a new tank
>> > too. What a pain in the butt!! Any other 78 owners out there that have
>> > EVAP stuff. Do 77 Bronco's/pickups/vans have EVAP stuff.
>> >
>>
>> My 78 has the evap canister on the battery side but only the carb is hooked....


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