61-79-list-digest Thursday, March 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 102

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - RE:vacuum
FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?
FTE 61-79 - RE360/390 pistons
Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over
FTE 61-79 - Fw: Old Ford Trucks
FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition
FTE 61-79 - Are all oils creatied equal?



Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:00:29 -0500
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:vacuum

If you are getting zero vac at idle and only
7 in. at higher rpms, I'd say you are hooked
up to the ported vacuum source instead of
a manifold source. At idle, your manifold
vacuum should be between 17 and 21if the
engine is healthy. Lower readings could
indicate low compression, retarded timing,
or a vacuum leak somewhere. If you get a
reading that changes either regularly or
irregularly, it may indicate carb adjustment
problems or valve problems. These are
just a few ways you can use your vacuum
readings to get a feel for your engine. Hope
this helps. Find a manifold vac source and
let us know what it reads.

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (currently in 3456 pieces) =

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:52:10 -0600
From: "Hicks, Adam"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need to sell... what should I ask?!?

This is a long one, but it might be worth your reading!!!

I'm going to be buying a house soon, and unfortuantely need to part with my
'77 F-150. I've put alot of time and money and love into the truck, and
hate to see it go. My problem is, I don't have any idea what to ask for it.
I hope someone here can help me out...

It's a 1977 F-150 Custom Red / White / Red. It's a standard cab long bed
with a 460 / C6. It has BRAND new: heads, edelbrock performer 460 manifold,
Holley Quadrajet 750 electric choke vacuum secondary (this was a non-egr
truck - thank God), Mallory high perf. coil, Ryder VST shocks, starter,
pads, shoes, rotors, bearings, huge Duralast battery, plugs, 8mm wires,
dist. cap. A few weeks ago I had the exhaust ripped out from the exhaust
manifold down and had all new 2 1/2" aluminized mandrel bent pipe ran, with
dual Flo-Pro mufflers dumped right before the rear axle. I gave over $300
for the (very professional) exhaust work. (The truck did not have catalytic
converters, and they are not required for this year.) I've installed a much
nicer Sony stereo, new window channels, all new speakers, all new mirrors,
etc. The Heads / Manifold / Carb work was done by a 25 year+ engine builder
who used all Fel-Pro gaskets, and highest quality parts.

The body is in great shape. Never been wrecked, no rust... a dent at the
front quarter panel, but shallow and not very noticable. The paint job is
less than a few years old. It's a really nice truck! The interior is in
very good condition as well. It could use a new rubber floor mat, but the
dash, doors and gauges are all perfect.

The truck runs / drives / brakes (!) excellent. It purrs like a kitten at
stop lights, but it'll leave you behind if you're not careful! I've really
enjoyed the project.

It needs a good set of tires, and every time I don't drive it for over a
month, the battery drains and I have to jump start it. After that, as long
as it is started every 2-3 weeks, it's just fine. This is probably a relay
sticking or something, I just don't have the time to fix it.

I've put over $3000 in the truck, not including the purchase price. I think
any of you guys would be proud to own it. I'd like to get near $3000 for
it. I hear the 'trailer special' models (which it is) are a bit more
uncommon. Is this a fair price to ask? I could post pictures with my
digital camera if it would help...

Thanks for all of your help throughout my ownership of the truck!
Adam Hicks
Ft. Worth, TX
Adam.Hicks ppctx.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:57:44 -0600
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE360/390 pistons

>From the ones I've torn down, they're identical. Flat-tops with 4 valve
>reliefs. They just come up lower in the cylinder.

Hence my comment about running oddly, lower in the cylinders would have
lowered the compression in 3 of them by quite a bit ...
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My 360 also had five 360, slipper skirt pistons, and three 390-4V slipper
skirt pistons. I checked the pin hieght by putting 2 pistons ( one marked
360, and one marked 390-4V) on the same wrist pin, side by side. Both
pistons had the same pin height, they were the same pistons, they just
had different casting numbers.

John Dolson
Jefferson City, MO.
1976 F150, Ranger XLT

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:28:38 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! REBUILT 460 won't turn over

In a message dated 3/24/99 7:37:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mschwartz fast.net writes:

thing I added to the engine tonight was bolting on the flex plate.

Is one of the flexplate bolts going through the flexplate and the crankshaft
flange and contacting the block?? One time I changed from a flywheel to
flexplate and used the flywheel bolts, they traveled through the crank flange
and locked up against the block. If you did not convert to an auto tranny
this is not likely, but one bolt might accidentally be just a little bit
Burt Hill Kennewick Wa 1972 F250 4x4 460
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:17:26 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fw: Old Ford Trucks

Forwarded for:

I own a 1979 Ford F-250 camper special 4x4 pick-up with a 351M motor. I have a 1974 Ford F-250 2 wheel drive parts truck also. I would like to know a couple things. First, how easy is it to switch cabs? Second, the 2 wheel drive truck has a 390 motor that I want to put in the other truck. How hard would that be? and can it be done? The 1979 4x4 has a C-6 automatic transmission and the 1974 has standard transmission. If anyone could answer these questions, I would be grateful. Thanks, Andy Edmiston

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:07:33 -0800
From: "Bill Deacon"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Petronix Ignition

Anybody out there have any comments about Petronix electronic ignition
conversions? I am considering installing one on my '66 F-250. Any comments
pro or con would be appreciated. Your Pal, Bill

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 01:10:18 -0700
From: "James Draughn"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Are all oils creatied equal?

Well, this weekend I am going to finally drop my 351W into my 79 van. But I
had a question. I could go to the store and buy oil that costs anywhere
from .79 to 3.00 or more a quart. Is there really anything to be gained by
buying this really expensive stuff? What is the differences between these?
I know there is a detergent oil but im still looking around with a blank
face. Any info and opinions on this would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 03:29:28 EST
From: Chezpip aol.com

anyone interested in making the best investment ever, go with what i did...
Performance Distributors makes a GM like HEI unit they call DUI, Davis Unified
Ignition. Now, i run a 410 motor with high compression (stock 10.5 : 1) a
Erson 268 with .490 intake and .510 exhaust lift. A Holley tops the intake
manifold. I figure i'm, if anything, a little better than stock. However, i
never realized that the pesky pinging i got from point ignition could ever be
remedied, until i talked to the guys in Memphis, TN about the D.U.I. GUYS,
the LAST thing i want is CH*vy Parts on my true blue, but i can live with this
one. my truck couldn't run better and i didn't have to screw with buying a
seperate module and coil and run wires everywhere... like on the ford
duraspark. a 12 volt ignition source is all the wiring i had to do. trust me,
HORSEPOWER GAIN!!! who am I? just a nobody blowing away GMs and DODGEs with
my Kick Butt '72 3/4 ton EFFIE!!! Live Long True Blue! hey, if you want
prices and advice, please feel free to e'mail me directly, you don't even need
to be that serious!!! you'll love it, believe me... i do. phillip
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